Jon Favreau Shares Thoughts On Edgar Wright Exiting Marvel's ANT-MAN

Jon Favreau Shares Thoughts On Edgar Wright Exiting Marvel's ANT-MAN

Revealing the original Fantastic Four movies were the initial model for Iron Man, director Jon Favreau has weighed in on Marvel and Edgar Wright parting ways on the Ant-Man adaptation. Check it out!

While Marvel Studios first established its shared universe and self-produced brand with Iron Man (2008), director Jon Favreau was hired the same year, 2006, that Edgar Wright had signed on to helm the company's Ant-Man adaptation, which the British filmmaker is no longer directing. In light of Wright and Marvel/Disney parting ways on the 2015 project, Favreau was asked about the split while promoting his critically acclaimed Chef movie. 

"Edgar's a dear friend of mine - I was so looking forward to seeing his version of Ant-Man," he told Shortlist during an interview today. "All Edgar's films have been studio films, it's not like he's never made one before. I think he's been used to a situation where he can have tremendous creative say around his story and casting, and Marvel has built an entire franchise around their style of telling stories." He continued, "I know both parties well and I respect his decision to see that he wasn't going to be fulfilled in the process. That's all I can really say."

When asked whether or not Iron Man felt like a gamble at the time he was directing, Jon Favreau responded: "The model was the Fantastic Four films with Fox. You were expected to spend a certain amount of money that would make you a certain amount of money back as long as the effects are good. They wanted to figure out a way to get the movie to audiences for a price. I think by casting Iron Man the way we did, it classed the brand up. It allowed us to bring a certain humorous tone that had been lost from, say, the Bond franchise. With Daniel Craig, those movies gained a harder edge, meaning there was definitely room for a new humorous cad adventurer. That archetype had not been filled in a long time. Through Iron Man, Marvel found its tone and voice, but nothing was expected of it. And then the success came, and then there was pressure to continue that brand, and that’s where it becomes more challenging."

It's safe to say the challenging aspect is what resulted in mixed reviews for Iron Man 2, and Jon Favreau 
ultimately leaving the Marvel franchise's director's chair and going on to direct Chef and upcoming Jungle Book adaptation, which just added Iron Man 3's Ben Kingsley to its voice cast.
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DrDoom - 6/25/2014, 5:52 PM
The Fox Fantastic Four movies shouldn't be the model for anything.
alamborn19 - 6/25/2014, 5:52 PM
Edgars a big baby also unrealted though it may not be my buisness i have to questions is there a page for owners and what happened to Levitkutz
McNyagano - 6/25/2014, 5:52 PM

PymParticle - 6/25/2014, 5:54 PM
Iron Man 3 Star? It's just trevor
DannyRand1225 - 6/25/2014, 5:55 PM
im still sad that we wont get a edgar wright ant man film,but at this point,i can just hope for the best and hope its a good movie,everyone who was being considered was a step down but that doesnt mean peyton reed cant make it a good film, they are so many different reports that i frankly dont believe any,i believe what GUNN AND FAVREAU have said since they are more on the inside
Omarvls - 6/25/2014, 5:56 PM
STILL with this?

Move on Man
DannyRand1225 - 6/25/2014, 5:57 PM
many filmmakers will say the best way to make a good film is collaboration but no one entity whether it be the filmmaker or the studio can have too much power.. the guy is known to be an auteur,he is known to be very hands on and be in control of every part of his films and u cant do that in a big budget superhero film
Destined - 6/25/2014, 5:57 PM
Favreau knows what's up. They all support Wright as creators.
DannyRand1225 - 6/25/2014, 5:59 PM
this video gives some good thoughts imo..

ThePowerCosmic - 6/25/2014, 6:03 PM
Who cares. Ant-Man will be great anyway.
ThePowerCosmic - 6/25/2014, 6:05 PM

No kidding...I feel like they bent over backwards for Wright.
AlexanderLykins - 6/25/2014, 6:07 PM

In all honesty, who cares? We're getting an MCU movie. That's good enough for me. It sounds like they are changing a lot of stuff from the source material for the better. They are going to make Ant-Man more awesome. I know it sounds crazy, but I have to believe that is what Marvel Studios is trying to do. If not, then what in the heck are they trying to do?
AlexanderLykins - 6/25/2014, 6:08 PM
Also, can we get a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles article so I can post this:

DannyRand1225 - 6/25/2014, 6:10 PM
Alex-yeah me too,i know wright wanted to also show the creativity in ant mans powers, just like that test footage he did,i hope,a long with a good story and good characters, we get some cool creative action too
DannyRand1225 - 6/25/2014, 6:13 PM
the thing im most looking forward to at comic con is how marvel handles this whole ant man situation,i think like guardians blew away people who saw the footage they showed at comic con,i think they may do or show something that may do similar for ant man or i atleast hope that is the case.
Highflyer - 6/25/2014, 6:16 PM
While I like what Marvel Studios have done with their movies and while I believe they know how to handle their characters I can't blindly believe in everything they do even if deep down, I don't agree with it. Sure I can have faith but I can't 100% say every move and derision they make is gold.
FastFlames - 6/25/2014, 6:31 PM
Major dung pile.
XK1D - 6/25/2014, 6:45 PM
Well, at least one good thing came from the Fantastic Four films...
FordEl - 6/25/2014, 6:47 PM
Why does everything have to have humor to be good? Thats just a ridiculous way to go about things. Of course Marvel movies are less action drama and more like action comedy. 90% of the time the comedy just doesnt work and has only worked for Iron Man and Captain America 2.
ruadh - 6/25/2014, 6:47 PM
Oh jeez...please dno't bring up Bond in an Iron Man discussion. THat nutjob that insists on posting the same editorial every week about Feige wanting to make the next Iron Man like a Bond film will just have a field day.
Mastyrwerk - 6/25/2014, 6:50 PM
I love Iron Man 2!

It is the gateway to the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe. Some of the action intensity was lost for a more paced story dealing with his dying and his father, but I liked all of that stuff. Best Iron Man movie!
DannyRand1225 - 6/25/2014, 6:53 PM
fordel-it may not work for u,it works for the majority,Humor is subjective though,one thing that may be funny to another person may not be funny to u
Bl00dwerK - 6/25/2014, 6:56 PM
He's not making it. Next topic, please...
santoanderson - 6/25/2014, 6:58 PM
I honestly think if Marvel was run back in 2005-2008 by the same executives, with the same mindset, that run it today, Robert Downey Jr wouldn't have been cast as Iron Man. I think they would have viewed the casting as being too risky, and they would have gone with a safer pick.

That's how Marvel strikes me after Wright departed Ant-Man. Back when they were a small, independent movie studio, they took a lot of risks, but now that their movies are guaranteed to make 9-10 figures, they're starting to play things a little more conservatively.
ComicsBornAndBred - 6/25/2014, 6:59 PM
Fantastic Four?? Okaaaaaaay
MileHighRonin - 6/25/2014, 6:59 PM
I hope the creative difference is Hawkeye and Mockingbird being a part of the film. That could explain where Clint was. Wait when is ant man supposed to take place? Before Avengers AoV, during or after? I know it's part of phase 3, but where in the MCU time line does it take place? I am GROOOOOTT!!!!
MercwithMouth - 6/25/2014, 6:59 PM
There is definitely a good brotherhood between directors. Classy.

That being said, I couldn't give a shit less that Wright is gone.
InfiniteMonkey - 6/25/2014, 7:12 PM
Where is that Mad Max trailer?!
Null - 6/25/2014, 7:12 PM
NoAssemblyReqd - 6/25/2014, 7:22 PM
It's too bad Favreau gets the blame for the shortcomings of IM2. What about the writers? Or Marvel Studios itself, for forcing in so much Avengers set-up?

I predict Favreau will get another shot at directing an MCU film, perhaps if RDJ is wooed back for IM4.
beane2099 - 6/25/2014, 7:49 PM
Even the darkest grittiest movies have an element of humor on them. The Godfather has funny moments for God's sake. Jaws was quite humorous in parts. Humor isn't a crime. You can argue about "the awkward placement of humor" but ultimately that's a very subjective thing. Marvel movies have their share of issues but I really don't think humor is one of them.
jonski22 - 6/25/2014, 7:53 PM
i have to do this: Chef: Monica: Pete Becker: Jon Favreau
dethpillow - 6/25/2014, 8:04 PM
@NoAssembly - i love Favreau, he fits Marvel really well, i think we'll definitely see him direct more for them.

It's funny he mentions FF here, cuz just recently i've been on a Favreau is gonna direct Fantastic Four for Marvel Studios kick. it's such a perfect match.
i could even imagine him doing a great street level hero, maybe he'd be a good pick for Moon Knight, actually.

i tend to automatically wonder about more sort of old school horror film directors on Moon Knight, someone like young Raimi might be great. but a big part of the appeal of Moon Knight is the dark humor. not over done, of course, but that's at least why I love Moon Knight, is all the stuff between him and Khonshu, and all his split personalities sometimes.

and yeah, he would've been great for Ant-Man also, if it had been his in the first place. Which i doubt Marvel would really have pushed for if not for Wright, but thinking about it now, would've been great.

this interview is cool becuz it reaffirms how much Marvel saw Iron Man as a type of Bond franchise at first. Not just in the replaceability of the lead, i think, but in how they imagined future Iron Man movies would be. which kinda got derailed by the MCU in IM2, and Pepper Potts and Tony needing to have an epiphany in IM3. maybe Iron Man 4 will be a return to a straight shot hi tech corporate espionage movie. i guess you could say that's what each of the movies has been already, but the second and third ones bring in too much mess.

I think they should either go real deep into Tony Stark, like we haven't seen him done at all yet, maybe kinda in the first one... or make him stone cold Iron Man, which is actually a reflection of real deal Tony Stark, it's just easier to stick to in movies. but all the fathers dying and epiphany having stuff needs to go, i think. all the fake epic stuff.
dethpillow - 6/25/2014, 8:14 PM
@beane2099 - yeah, Darcy and Selvig aren't too much humor, they are too little humor. they are goony and all that was bad writing and bad direction.

i'd chalk stuff like that up to bad writing more than anything. when people go on about humor, what they're talking about is a personal thing that they feel the movies represent to them. i think there's a few different things, but it's a broad stroke attempt to discredit something and it's almost like a desperation for other people to not like something for personal reasons.

cuz it's bad writing and it's just poorly done. that's what the problem actually is. goony i think is more fitting than too much humor.
all these movies have goony elements to them, some more than others. X-Men I think has the highest amount of goonyness jammed into it. TASM2 had relatively little of it, and that didn't help it much. but then Raimi's Spider-Mans had what you would think would be tons of goonyness, but no... first it was done with style and secondly it was written better, Raimi understands that shit.

but goonyness comes down to writing and direction, not humor.
dethpillow - 6/25/2014, 8:23 PM
sometimes when movies avoid it too much, it comes off really super lame when it pops up too. this was the case with TDKR and MOS. both of them wanted so badly to be serious movies,

but they were just serious about being serious.

which is silly, it's like sitting in your room and kissing a pillow.

that's what Wolverine feels like to me too. it's total pillow kissing.

what they don't get is that you just have to make a movie about something, then it doesn't matter if you talk about Civil Rights a lot, or make jokes, or people cry or anything, you don't have to worry about it, u just gotta make the movie about what it's about, and then it'll have meaning.

instead it's like totally backwards with a lot of these movies, they want to be meaningful and they make a movie that they think is gonna be meaningful.
and it don't work like that.

one of the things i love about Marvel is they don't have this pretense of epic meaningfulness. i really appreciate that. it makes things, for me, 1000 times more easy to watch them. and if you talk to me about movies, you would think i am the most pretentious bastard about what films should be. all my favorite films are what a lot of people would call art house stuff or just artsy and pretentious and boring. but they aren't, they're actually just real deal good films. not like comic book movies are at all. and even that sounds pretentious, u know? it's always easy to make it sound like i'm the asshole. but it's just not true anyways.
bropous - 6/25/2014, 8:23 PM
I bow at the feet of Jon Favreau.

The FIRST of the directors of the incredible Marvel Studios Avengers Film Initative.

And Wright can go [frick] himself. DRY.

Him and Shane Black, as well.
bropous - 6/25/2014, 8:25 PM
I piss in Edgar Wright's mouth for what he has done to Hank Pym.
dethpillow - 6/25/2014, 8:28 PM
@bropous - well i would think if Shane Black or Wright ever had to [frick] themselves, i really doubt they'd be DRY.

no way, i think they'd be pretty damn excited about it. they'd be ready to go.
anyways, just a quibble, just splitting hairs on that one.
Mercwitham0uth - 6/25/2014, 8:30 PM
Edgar's gone. Get over it and let it go.
dethpillow - 6/25/2014, 8:30 PM
@bropous - and like i've said to people before here...

how is rewarding Edgar Wright for acting bad gonna change his behavior in the future?

what you really have to do is make him piss in your mouth. cuz i heard that's what he hates more than anything, is having to piss in someone else's mouth for once. u know? research, man. otherwise, u are just playing right into his fiendish clutches.
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