Joe Carnahan Talks The Hollywood Trend Of Superhero Movies

Joe Carnahan Talks The Hollywood Trend Of Superhero Movies

The director behind The Grey and The A-Team talks about the current dominance of comic book movies at the box office and what it means for Hollywood. Carnahan touches on Nemesis, The Avengers, Michael Bay and more, definitely worth a watch.

He was up for Fox's Daredevil reboot before the film rights returned to Marvel and he's tied to the adaptation of Mark Millar's Nemesis and with Millar consulting at Fox, don't be surprise when Carnahan tackles one of their superhero film franchises.

It's a 10-minute discussion but here are some of the choice topics covered by Carnahan.

"Are we so now popcorn driven? Is The Avengers now going to reshape every movie for the next 10 years? Listen, Marvel's doing it brilliantly, they have figured out a way to make all these other films and then a super film of those films and have all of them be profitable."

"My brother and I pitched Nemesis from Mark Millar of Kick-Ass and Wanted. We pitched this thing and we had such a great, big morality twist on this thing that I never thought in a million years they would go for and they did. Now that's all fine and good in theory but when we execute this thing it is going to be at the opposite end of the comic book genre. They're either going to go for that and see what it could be and maybe move the forum forward a little bit. Or not."

Much more ground was covered in the video above and it should raise a number of questions for all you self-described film buffs. Be sure to share your thoughts and opinions in the comments section below once you finish watching.

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95 - 2/13/2013, 1:16 PM
If they ever do a Cable spin-off, he's the guy.
Jollem - 2/13/2013, 1:19 PM
don't worry, we have a man of steel film coming out
BboiBlack - 2/13/2013, 1:47 PM
This is the guy that made A team, don't let all his gruff fool you.
DanteSparda - 2/13/2013, 1:47 PM
"Is The Avengers now going to reshape every movie for the next 10 years?"

Nope, only for the next 2 years until Marvel releases The Avengers 2 and Bang!
DukeAcureds - 2/13/2013, 1:48 PM
I can never take this guy seriously. I mean, he did the A-Team movie. Did you see that? All the way through, I mean? Tch.
BigMikeReviews - 2/13/2013, 1:55 PM
The Grey is one of the best films I've seen of 2012, however the A team rebalances the scale back to nothing. I'll wait and see how his new project unfolds before I can start backing what he says.
teinen - 2/13/2013, 1:56 PM
Make a good movie and maybe ill care about what you have to say. Another hack. Studios just keep letting these 2 out 5 star directors to churn out dull unimaginative movies. Start letting dudes like the Russo bros. get a shot.
SpideyQuad - 2/13/2013, 2:00 PM
Yes, you can clearly hear he's criticizing WB for their in-potency. Clearly will get a Superman/Batman world's finest movie in about three years and a few more WB teenage romance shows, but that's about it.

But on the bright side we have phase 2 with three and a future so bright I have to wear shades!
Coachella - 2/13/2013, 2:09 PM
I loved The Avengers but it's truly not a great film. It's not a masterpiece or a piece of fine art. No comicfilm is. Don't get me wrong i love popcorn films but i don't see them as high art.
NorseGod - 2/13/2013, 2:11 PM
SpideyQuad - 2/13/2013, 2:16 PM
in-potency.Is a word I made up to explain a certain studios inability to achieve a simple function. I figured most people who could read a sentence could kind of figure it out on their own. Next time monkey balls I will allow for you and make sure I spell it out :-)

See, we can all get along
SpideyQuad - 2/13/2013, 2:19 PM
Oh Batman Batman Batman you more than anyone should know that art is in the eyes of the beholder. After all we have BG, TDK, TDKr as a perfect example. Crappie art, but art just the same
Optimus83 - 2/13/2013, 2:27 PM
Joe Carnahgan is good for a possible Batman 4 too. ...
IIIAdamantiumIII - 2/13/2013, 2:34 PM
he did Narc and Smokin Aces , I liked the A-team , but it was a FOX film so they had so much control of what went on. . The grey was a really well made film and he wants to continue that route for his future films. I wish people would really just listen to people before they jump the gun . He is pretty much saying he has made a few shitty films and wants to do projects like The grey and no more "pop corn" flicks
AlexDeLarge87 - 2/13/2013, 3:03 PM
arashini - 2/13/2013, 3:05 PM
Haven't seen any of his films, but I heard "The Grey" is pretty good.
arashini - 2/13/2013, 3:05 PM
and that A-Team is pretty bad.
SpideyQuad - 2/13/2013, 3:25 PM
Geez, I don't know what to say. I really thought the cynical ones would getting it, but you kind of lose the edge when you have to explain it. Next time I'll just toss you a banana or some coconut oil
MarkJulian - 2/13/2013, 4:22 PM
Narc, Smokin Aces and The Grey more than make up for The A-Team which wasn't that bad.
SugarYumYum - 2/13/2013, 4:26 PM
From what I can gather, it sounds like he's trying to create a reasoning for if his "Nemesis" film doesn't go over well with the audience that it's because they go for popcorn flicks... or something. I see the Avengers having an effect on the idea of interconnected movie verses and convince other CBM makers to embrace the loud and colorful "comicbook-y-ness" of their franchises but not everyone is suddenly going to create solo films for each of their characters or take a light tone with their work so dunno really what his concern is.
beane2099 - 2/13/2013, 4:43 PM
I WANTED to like A Team (and I will say the director's cut is way better than the theatrical cut) but it just fell short. Had a great opening, but the plot just became too damn convoluted for it's own good. I mean, he had a perfect cast there. Copley's Murdock was more Murdock than the original. Shame. I hope he learned something from that for Nemesis.
ATrueHero1987 - 2/13/2013, 4:56 PM
@MarkJulian You liked Smokin Aces?? That movie was forgettable.
macfint - 2/13/2013, 5:41 PM
i hear what ur sayin, but wait....u did the a team?? oh, F U.
macfint - 2/13/2013, 5:43 PM
smokin aces?????? FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
teinen - 2/13/2013, 7:00 PM
Liam Neason would've froze ten times over in "The Grey". That movie was made for people who don't know cold.
Jollem - 2/13/2013, 10:55 PM
@ELgUaSoN - haha. rdjr. face. the kids love rdjr. face
Equivocal - 2/14/2013, 12:17 AM
it seems like The Avengers is MORE of an Influence (in the CBM department) thant any other movie...


so far, Marvel is doing a lot better in 5 years than WB & fox in the past 20....
(CBM wise)
IronDean2099 - 2/14/2013, 1:54 AM
I think what he's saying is that the Avengers was the ultimate crowd pleaser movie, and that Nemesis will be quite the opposite. I can't [frick]ing wait for Nemesis!
alecwright - 2/14/2013, 7:58 AM
" it seems like The Avengers is MORE of an Influence (in the CBM department) thant any other movie..."

*cough*tdk*cough* -Equivocal

Yeah, business & marketing wise. Cinematically, no.
alecwright - 2/14/2013, 8:06 AM
But on the bright side we have phase 2 with three and a future so bright I have to wear shades! -SpideyQuad

Really? So you walked out of movies like Thor & Cap saying "Wow. Can't wait for the sequels. I'd really like to see where they're going with these characters next."? Because Marvel's formulaic, milquetoast filmmaking won't be tiresome by phase 4...

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