Joss Whedon On The Avengers: No Ultimate Hulk, Villains Will Be "Something New"

Joss Whedon On <i>The Avengers</i>: No Ultimate Hulk, Villains Will Be "Something New"

More from Total Film's comic book movie preview issue. In an interview with Joss Whedon the Avengers director reveals what version of The Hulk we will be seeing as well as dropping a little hint about the villains..

When The Hulk was conformed as being part of the lineup for The Avengers many fans assumed that he would be smashing up the place and playing a villainous role at first. Now we still don't know if that will be the case or not but one thing is for certain, anyone hoping for some Hulk related carnage on the scale we saw in Mark Millar's Ultimates is in for a disappointment.

In an interview with Total Film Whedon explains why and elaborates on exactly which Avengers team we will see in the movie..

Total Film: Are you basing The Avengers on any particular comic book series?

Whedon: No, it's an amalgam. There's some originals, some Ultimates and some characters from different runs-and hopefully some new stuff too. We're certainly not going to have Hulk killing hundreds of people. It's not as cute on film as it is in the comics.

Who are The Avengers going to be fighting?

Well we all know Loki's in the house, beyond that I'm not saying!

Will we be seeing any new villains from outside the Marvel Universe?

We're definitely going to see something new...but I'm playing this one close to the chest!

So there you have it guys, according to Whedon himself at least some villainous element in The Avengers will be something that we haven't seen in the comics before. Is it the mysterious Alien race seen battling the team on set or something else? Only time will tell.


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DCMarvelFreshman - 9/3/2011, 11:46 AM
Awesome stuff!
Ironnick - 9/3/2011, 11:46 AM
very cool
OscarsVideos - 9/3/2011, 11:47 AM
hopefully loki will controll hulk at some point in the movie
PartyHard - 9/3/2011, 11:55 AM
Good. I prefer Hulk to be misunderstood, and just wanting to be left alone, rather than a rampaging cannibal monster.
SageMode - 9/3/2011, 11:55 AM
Well, since the Skrulls are pretty much ruled out, as along as its not a [frick]ing Chitari, im good.
LMB10 - 9/3/2011, 11:56 AM
'It's not as cute on film as it is in the comics' ;D
golden123 - 9/3/2011, 12:02 PM
@PartyHard: Wait, does Hulk eat humans in the Ultimate comics? I've never read any Ultimate material so I wouldn't know.
WellDrawn - 9/3/2011, 12:06 PM
As long as it's not the stupid pointy footed Chitauri, I'll be happy...
Lizardking310 - 9/3/2011, 12:07 PM
Me like hulk to smash bad guys only
JohnnieDynamite - 9/3/2011, 12:08 PM
I pretty sure the new Villain is going to be Thanos
jazzman - 9/3/2011, 12:09 PM
so if they now using the Skrulls meaning FOX Studio might actually have the rights to the Skrulls then "OH DEAR GOD NO"
GUNSMITH - 9/3/2011, 12:10 PM
patriautism - 9/3/2011, 12:12 PM
This is good news.. I was really hoping Hulk would be good.
Canon108 - 9/3/2011, 12:12 PM
Don't get me wrong, the guy has written some decent material in his time whether it be graphic novels of scripts...but the guy can't direct worth a damn. 2 of his 3 shows were canceled either after a handfull of episodes of 1 season and his 1 film that he directed was straight to DVD quality and didn't make alot of money or get alot of love critically...

The producers were crazy putting him in charge of this film, I really hope I'm wrong though and he hits it out of the park...but his track record and what we've seen so far are batting against him.
Neo3 - 9/3/2011, 12:13 PM
Does new mean a new Marvel villain from the MU or a new made up one. Because the question said from outside the MU and he responded yes. So was he talking about the MCU or the MU (comicbooks)?
incrediblesuperbatspider - 9/3/2011, 12:13 PM
We all know the villain will be Mr freeze and his hockey team from Hell
RorMachine - 9/3/2011, 12:20 PM
"his 1 film that he directed was straight to DVD quality and didn't make alot of money or get alot of love critically..."

Sorry, what? I assume you mean Serenity, one of the most popular sci-fi movies of all time and was RAVED about by critics and fans alike. You really should Google that stuff before typing dude.
nld3 - 9/3/2011, 12:23 PM
I'm glad we aren't getting U-Hulk.
RorMachine - 9/3/2011, 12:29 PM
Ruka, Firefly was a great wasn't cancelled because of the quality. I also really liked the later seasons of Buffy and I loved Angel. Ok Dollhouse was a bit of a misfire but still wasn't too bad. I get that not everyone likes his style but the man is objectively a good director. I wouldn't worry about The Avengers.
gost - 9/3/2011, 12:29 PM
I really hope they didn't make up any new characters for the movie. I really hate when directors feel the need to put their own touch on a movie with something they came up with instead of using characters that we all know and love.
meatbag - 9/3/2011, 12:35 PM
The villain will be Spike played by james Marsters...just kidding. Good news about the Hulk, though. My day just brightened a little.
skidz - 9/3/2011, 12:37 PM
RorMachine: I compare Firefly to the original Star Trek series. They were both largely overlooked in their original runs and gained popularity through reruns and/or word of mouth. Both have fantastic movies. Unfortunately Whedon never planned on continuing the series past Serenity. Heck, my MOM asked me if any more movies were coming out after I loaned her the series and the movie!
skidz - 9/3/2011, 12:40 PM
I'm glad he's stick he's sticking with 'HULK SMASH' rather than Hulk cannibalize.
sexfoodcomics - 9/3/2011, 12:46 PM
I think for something new he means a villain from marvel that hasn't been on the big screen.

Also hulk definitely goes crazy and has to be wrangled by the Avengers. My friend saw the storyboards for it.
kevberg - 9/3/2011, 12:48 PM

Dude , way off base.

7 seasons of Buffy, 5 seasons of Angel, 1 season of the one of the most critically acclaimed sci-fi shows EVER and 2 of doll house.

Written or rewritten tons of movies....Speed, Toy Story, Serenity ( firefly ) X-men, long list of stuff....

Yeah he's had a few misses, But he's had quite a few successes.

AND YEAH, Im so glad that that stupid ass, juvenile, cannibal version of the hulk won't be in this movie.

although maybe having Coulson having to remove the stool of the Chitari commander that the Hulk leaves could make for funny times.

DioFoRio - 9/3/2011, 1:05 PM
but what kind of shoes will Hulk be wearing?!?!?!? ARGGGGGHHH!!!! I NEED TO KNOW!!
kevberg - 9/3/2011, 1:08 PM

Agreed :)

Although Serenity wasn't the blockbuster success he or Fox might have been hoping for, Its quite amazing the fanbase and ACTORS clamoring for sequels or continuations of the series.

I know Joss can handle a large cast, but my ONLY concern is the action, as i don't think he's handled a movie with this HUGE action...But at least in interviews he doesn't seem bothered by it.

But I know it'll at least be a smart and fun movie at least.
m0th3r - 9/3/2011, 1:17 PM
I have to say, i loved the AEMHs version of the Hulk. Still hulkish enough to enjoy..but a rampaging monster is just to hard to keep in check..
kevberg - 9/3/2011, 1:21 PM

Normally I'd agree with your basic point, but logistically the rights to some characters are with other studios.
renegade801 - 9/3/2011, 1:22 PM
Considering Joss Whedon wrote the Astonishing X-men with one of the best X-men story arcs ever written... including villains of his own creation... I think I'm comfortable with him making up villains on his own...
RunDTC - 9/3/2011, 1:30 PM
@renegade801: yep. agree 100%.

@N: YES! I would LOVE for The Leader to show up in this or Hulk 2. That character has a lot of potential and Tim Blake Nelson was a great choice to play him.

anyone want to see Abomination show up in this?
superbatspiderman - 9/3/2011, 1:35 PM
Wow Whedon is being more tight lipped than Nolan.
kevberg - 9/3/2011, 1:38 PM
I've got a idea...Micheal Bay as a second unit

ok . maybe not.
jaysin420 - 9/3/2011, 1:40 PM
Yea I'm a little worried about Whedon too, just going by his track record he seems like an odd choice for such an important franchise.

I'm not saying he can't make this movie great, but I'd feel much safer it Branagh was directing or even Favreu.
Jefferys - 9/3/2011, 1:53 PM
I've got a idea...Micheal Bay as a second unit

Well kevberg I guess it makes sense with all the explosions and derbis and anything else that almost seems so very pointless.
BooYah - 9/3/2011, 2:00 PM
Whedon is a perfect choice. Not worried at all.
gambgel - 9/3/2011, 2:12 PM
"Its not as cute on film"??

so what do you want? a cute film??....

great point of view, Joss..... great point...
NightForce - 9/3/2011, 2:13 PM
No Skrulls/Kree? :( Maybe an army of mystical creatures from the 9 realms. But that wouldn't explain the high tech weapons. Maybe he means "something new" because we've never seen the Skrulls on screen?
AlanWarlock - 9/3/2011, 2:16 PM
So, will the movie end with a big group hug including the Hulk?
BooYah - 9/3/2011, 2:20 PM
@gambgel- You take things to seriously. I'm sure that's not what Joss meant.
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