Joss Whedon On The Challenges Of Directing The Avengers; Again Debunks Ant-Man Rumors!

Joss Whedon On The Challenges Of Directing <i>The Avengers</i>; Again Debunks Ant-Man Rumors!

Talking about how bringing these iconic characters together on the big screen differs to Serenity, the director once again makes it clear that Ant-Man, will NOT appear in the movie...

The director starts talking about The Avengers at roughly the 3 minute mark, but I've transcribed his comments on Ant-Man below. Seeing as this follows on from confirmation by Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish and Kevin Feige that the character won't feature in the movie, I think we can finally put the speculation to rest once and for all. Unless they're keeping it a very closely guarded secret of course... Regardless, his comments about the challenges of helming this movie are also pretty interesting, so be sure to check out the interview below.

There are rumbling about Ant-Man being in the movie. Is that true or not?

"You know, I'm really not allowed to say what happens in the movie, but I can say that it's not true. Ant-Man is NOT in the movie."


Chris Evans as Steve Rogers/Captain America
Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man
Chris Hemsworth as Thor
Jeremy Renner as Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Ramanoff/Black Widow
Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner/Hulk
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
Tom Hiddleston as Loki

RELEASE DATE: May 4th, 2012. (US)

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Orphix - 8/2/2011, 5:23 AM
He looks like Karl Pilkington's older, geekier brother.

Maybe Pym will still show - just no Ant-man...yet!

Anyway I am sure there will be other brief cameos instead. (Ahem...Black Panther...ahem)
Warcam - 8/2/2011, 5:23 AM
That doesn't necessarily mean HANK PYM won't be in the movie.
Warcam - 8/2/2011, 5:24 AM
Orphix beat me to it.
PaulRom - 8/2/2011, 5:25 AM
I don't think it rules out Giant-Man. ;P
CherryBomb - 8/2/2011, 5:32 AM

I hate you Joss Whedon, you have lost respect points!
they could atleast have a cameo at the end or something! have like, Nick Fury be like ..

"Janet, Hank .. I want to recruit you into the Avengers!"

or have Janet and Hank atleast cameo as like, scientist .. that will EVENTUALLY be in the team.
Hawkeye64 - 8/2/2011, 5:36 AM
@Intruder nice.

i think there will be a teaser to someone else in the avengers that will be set up like hawkeye was in thor. introduce them without overplaying their role so audiences can get familiar with them for the sequel.

SuperSomething616 - 8/2/2011, 5:37 AM
The fact he said he cant talk about whats in the movie...and then says that ant man is not in the movie...means antman is not in the movie but he is hiding something...

Im with some of you guys I defo think either Hank Pym/Giant Man will be in the movie to some degree...maybe as a cameo or as a shield scientist...

marvel72 - 8/2/2011, 5:37 AM
i'd rather see giant-man more than ant-man. :D
opencurtain - 8/2/2011, 5:39 AM
Why couldn't they just edit out the crap about "Buffy" and talk about the Avengers already ...................
ColonelKilgore - 8/2/2011, 5:46 AM
They don't have to be Wasp/Ant/Giant Man to be in the movie.
thegamedrex - 8/2/2011, 5:48 AM
ant man/giant man bring them, but seriously it will be more likely to just see hank pym as hank pym. or maybe you will see an ultron helmet which will symbol the work of hank and tony to bring him in on the next movie.
Spidey91 - 8/2/2011, 5:49 AM
maybe he'll start as Yellow Jacket :P
SKOne - 8/2/2011, 6:05 AM
Hank and Janet will not show up in the Avengers, the script for Ant-Man is not done and probably won't be until the Avengers is done and off to manufacturing. They are not going to cast anyone to play them until it is, the most we will see is their names on a file or computer.
DaenerysTargaryen - 8/2/2011, 6:17 AM
Oh well
fwg22392 - 8/2/2011, 6:22 AM
damn he lost alot of weight
njferns - 8/2/2011, 6:30 AM
Frankly I dont rule out an after creds with Ant Man & Wasp! Marvel has been known to let out the secret of the end creds just before the movie's release. But anyways we knew that AM wont have a big role in The Avengers...Sad though considering he & Wasp are founding members! At least the animated TV show has got it right thank God!

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TheDarkKnightWing - 8/2/2011, 6:34 AM
Well if Ant-Man isnt in this expect him in one of the later projects like IM3 or Thor 2 depending on when Ant-Man comes out.
comicb00kguy - 8/2/2011, 6:35 AM
Intruder: You might be on to something. He did not say Henry Pym. I don't think we'll have full closure on this question until the movie comes out. I'm hoping he is, even if it's just as "Henry Pym: Scientific Adventurer".
JackBauer - 8/2/2011, 6:37 AM
Why do the reporters always ask if Ant-Man is in the movie? The answer is always NO. They need to ask if Hank Pym is in the movie, which I believe he will be.
JackBauer - 8/2/2011, 6:40 AM
Expect a cameo from Nathan Fillion as Henry Pym. You heard it here :)
TheDarkKnightWing - 8/2/2011, 6:40 AM
At like the end credit scene would:
I have something to show you Tony. You are aware of the scientist Dr. Pym. Well he has found a way to make all our jobs a lot easier. You see he's created this robot.

Then bam its over with a whole bunch of fans jizzing their pants.
Ceejay - 8/2/2011, 6:45 AM
Stupid character, can get away with him in the comics, in a live action film he'd just be ridiculous to realize visually. The very ground his team mates and opponents are fighting on would shake every step he took and he'd have to tippy-toe around them in battle not to mention the surrounding architecture. Leave him out!
jj72 - 8/2/2011, 6:45 AM
Ya, Ant Man is going to make a difference if people are going to watch the Avengers or not.

Let them concentrate on these characters before overloading the first movie with all new heroes. Most people are worried that the current roster won't get enough screen time to develop the group. Its not like Marvel doesn't have enough films in their lineup to introduce new people.
ROBBEATZZZ - 8/2/2011, 6:57 AM

brewtownpsych - 8/2/2011, 7:00 AM
Ceejay & jj72 are correct ... having ant-man or goliath for that matter would take away from the movie as a whole logistically and from a character development standpoint. i think he's got enuff on his plate to give the core characters enough screen time and development as a unit
BooYah - 8/2/2011, 7:10 AM
"Ant-Man is NOT in the movie ..." alone Wasp is in there with him.
moneybanks - 8/2/2011, 7:40 AM
@Gusto sir..are hilarious..

Yeah they better hank pym/giant man up!! It has to be some part of the avengers...wouldnt be right if they didnt at least nod or holla!!
Fogs - 8/2/2011, 7:46 AM
Ceejay did you ever see watchmen?
niknik - 8/2/2011, 7:48 AM
They are original founding members and there is no excuse for not having them in the film at least in some small part.

Nothing would be more epic than having an Avenger on their ass about to get killed by a baddie when a fist the size of a house comes down on top of him.
DEFENDER - 8/2/2011, 7:53 AM
who cares about antman i want to see thor wearing his helmet & hawkeye wearing his mask
GUNSMITH - 8/2/2011, 8:03 AM
JackMan - 8/2/2011, 8:18 AM
I don't think it's up to Whedon whether or not Hank and Janet or in it or not. I think they might have at least have had a cameo, IF there wasn't going to be an Ant-Man movie. Since there is an Ant-Man movie being made, I guess they're just going to introduce him in that.

Still not sure why Ant-Man gets a solo film though O_o
cable23 - 8/2/2011, 8:55 AM
@MARVELPSYCHO79 Because Hank Pym and Wasp are going to be tough to sell to the general audience. Imagine having no prior knowledge of comic books and hear about a man who controls ants. It sounds uncanny and ridiculous at first. Another reason I believe they are not in it is because this is the first time the Avengers is being brought to the big screen, Marvel would want to play it safe. I do agree that they deserve to be on the team more than Black Widow and Hawkeye, even Black Panther should be in the movie besides them two. But none the less this movie is shaping up to be EPIC. Cant wait for 2012!
Ranger14 - 8/2/2011, 9:09 AM
Founding members or not, I am okay with them leaving out Hank and Janet. The movie has enough task at hand to develop the team they do have let alone introducing two new characters that mainstream viewers have no clue about. It's not like they are naming it Avengers: First Class. There are lots of variations of the Avengers. I don't doubt they do a cameo or teaser of Pym. There was a subtle possible reference to him in Thor. I agree that that Antman/Giantman would be tough to translate to the big screen.
cable23 - 8/2/2011, 9:13 AM
@MARVELPSYCHO79 Yeah I definetly can see a reference or even a possible cameo of Hank and Janet. But yeah I love the animated version of Antman that would be the most logical way to introduce Antman into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
JackBauer - 8/2/2011, 9:58 AM
It won't ruin the movie for me if Hank and Jan are in the movie or not but you can count on them to cameo as their non-super powered selves.

@SuperArgo - That's some kinky ass shit :)

@ncreb - In the 616 universe Hank hit Jan only once, although I understand that in the Ultimate universe he smacked her around a lot.

Daniellantern - 8/2/2011, 10:28 AM
Just like Wolvie cameo on First Class. Both Vaugh and Jackman said there won't be Wolvie cameo, then.. Go [frick] yourself. LOL
Daniellantern - 8/2/2011, 10:34 AM
Just like Wolvie cameo on First Class. Both Vaugh and Jackman said there won't be Wolvie cameo, then.. Go [frick] yourself. LOL
Chewtoy - 8/2/2011, 10:35 AM
People should probably let this go. Pym isn't in the movie. They're not going to cast a role that is being developed for a solo film until that solo film is ready to move forward. It's stupid to lock yourself into a lead actor just for the sake of a cameo.

Could he and/or Janet Van Dyne be mentioned? Sure. But he's not going to appear in any way unless the Ant-Man film is green lit before the Avengers comes out, and they shoe-horn a cameo scene in late in production like they did with Hawkeye in Thor. But I have no reason to believe any trickery when all involved deny that Ant-Man (or any version of Pym) is currently planned in the film.
UltimateRedLantern - 8/2/2011, 10:46 AM
why would they waste a "at the end of the movie" cameo on hank and jan? that doesn't set up anything for future movies
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