Why Thanos wont have the Infinity Gauntlet in the Avengers movie!

Why Thanos wont have the Infinity Gauntlet in the Avengers movie!

The rumored Avengers villain can not have The Infinity Gauntlet in the Avengers film adaptation...

Thanos (the rumored Avengers villain) cannot logically have the Infinity Gauntlet in the Avengers Film.

-Thor takes place after Ironman 2, which is implied via post credits scene.

-Nick Fury begins to form the avengers after Ironman.

-The Avengers unite under a common threat (told in the Avengers teaser)

-In Thor, which is post Ironman, the Infinity Gauntlet was still safe in Odin's vault.

So if the Infinity Gauntlet, is in Odins vault post Ironman, and the Avengers are united by a common threat, and the Avengers were being formed after Ironman, then logically the common threat cannot be Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, because it would be chronologically incorrect.
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manymade1 - 5/29/2011, 7:28 PM
Wait what? I didn't understand this at all, here let me help you out with the chronology:

2.Iron-Man 2/Thor
3.Incredible Hulk/Thor

Thor happened around the same time,as both Iron-Man 2 and Hulk. I'm not gonna lie, I really don't get your point of how he won't have it at all. Please explain this better.
jromie - 5/29/2011, 7:52 PM
The common threat is probably Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet.

Loki (or whoever) probably helps Thanos take the gauntlet. Just because it is in the throne room does not mean it can not be stolen.
gamecreatorjj - 5/29/2011, 8:27 PM
@ jromie, that cant be the threat, because when Fury begins the Avengers, the infinity gauntlet is in odin's vault, this is what happens, with continuity, I love it and all, but you get a mess of continuity, they should have had the movies made so they are in sequence to when they came out, it is so confusing
gamecreatorjj - 5/29/2011, 8:29 PM
@ ncreb, but then would Thanos be that huge of a threat, to try and capture hulk, and mess with the gods
Hardvark - 5/29/2011, 8:43 PM
As of Thor, the avengers still have yet to be assembled so I don't see how it's out of the question for the infinity gaunlet to be stolen before the avengers happen.
gamecreatorjj - 5/29/2011, 8:48 PM
@hardvark, in the avengers trailer, Fury says the join under a common threat, why would fury try to unite them without the common threat
manymade1 - 5/29/2011, 9:27 PM
@ gamecreator Now I see what your saying. Well right now the only actual members are Thor and Iron-Man. Cap and Hulk are most likely going to start fightsd within the team, and they only start to work together when the "common threat" arises.
gamecreatorjj - 5/29/2011, 10:18 PM
manymade1- never thought of it like that, more like unting spiritually rather than literally

note- spiritually may sound creepy, but i can't think of a better word right now
Hardvark - 5/29/2011, 10:41 PM
That common threat probably has something to do with either the hulk or an unknown enemy that we have yet to find out about.
marvel72 - 5/30/2011, 5:43 AM
they may shown thanos stealing it in the avengers,that would make a fantastic opening scene.

could end up being the reason thor comes back to earth,chasing thanos & loki gets involved as well.
Hellsing - 5/30/2011, 5:53 AM
continuity isn't confusing, your just making it confusing for your self. and your taking that teaser trailer way seriously, that was made to get people hyped, its a quote taken from the avengers book. Your reading in to shit too much. Plus Thanos hasn't even been confirmed, people don't know shit about the plot. So wait till you hear some thing official before you come up with theories.
Ashdm - 5/30/2011, 6:10 AM
I thought that as they didnt show the gauntlet at all in Thor, then perhaps its not in Odin's vault. Apparently it was an expensive gauntlet to make, so im assuming they wouldnt go to all that effort and spend alot of money to make it and then not show it for no reason. Whedon was still rewriting the Avengers during post production of Thor. Maybe he told them not to show it because in his draft Thanos already has the gauntlet?
Checkmate - 5/30/2011, 9:17 AM
Or maybe Thanos isn't in the movie? :P
BIGBMH - 5/30/2011, 10:24 AM
I'm with ncreb and Dane. He could steal it over the course of th movie, so this chronology doesn't prohibit that from happening. I'm leaning towards saying he will not ply a significant role in this movie. Loki is said to have big plans and will likely serve as the main villain. Thanos seems like he would be a main villain if he was ever used.
Shovel415 - 5/30/2011, 12:32 PM
The ending of Iron Man 2 is the beginning of Thor, the halfway mark of Hulk is in the warehouse scene in Iron Man 2 right before he gets the medal from the Senator.
Batmanhulkbadass - 5/30/2011, 3:02 PM
Ok Im focusing on common threat heres my first ideal

Captain America:Red skull,Hydra.
Iron Man:Justin Hammer.
Thor:Loki,Frost Giants.
Hulk:Abomination,The Leader(Dr.Samuel Stern).
thats about it.
heres my ideal whats going to happen Loki wants to use the cube but needs someone or others that can be useful to use it be getting the evilest minds that are capable of having insight knowledge even so he'll need some one that has more experienced with the cube thats where the red skull comes in.The leader however might take part in a different part of the plan and might want to betray them all and gather an army using the cubes power making gamma people while hydra is also involved,also Loki wanted to betray all of them as well by having the Frost Giants as his army to power the cube against Asgard while Justin hammer which he has no knowledge of every thing might want to use the cube for his own armors to make his technology more superior than Iron man,While trying to build the core he makes a fatal error unleashing Thanos himself and makes his own disastrous pan to conquer the world.
Batmanhulkbadass - 5/30/2011, 3:15 PM
anyone feel free to respond to this comment.
Batmanhulkbadass - 5/30/2011, 3:25 PM
@manymade 1

Actually iron man 2 was after incredible hulk
HaroldOfGalactus - 5/30/2011, 7:44 PM
actually, Iron man 2 happened at the same time, if not slightly before The Incredible Hulk.

This is proven in both movies, as the report from Culver University is on the screen at the end of IM2, with a little note on the screen that says "LIVE"

this same report was in TIH right after Hulk fought off the army and Super-Serumed Blonsky

Also, Loki was ruling Asgard when he fought Thor, so he could have very well taken SEVERAL things out of the vault before the final battle.
Jefferys - 5/30/2011, 11:13 PM
@Batmanhulkbadass - It could work but why would loki throw Justin Hammer in his team?

Mostly likely, so maybe 65% of me is saying that Thanos will be the main villain with Loki cause almost two hours of arguments and a Hulk battle wouldn't be comforting with five movies leading up to this. It'd be cruel!
Orphix - 5/31/2011, 1:37 AM
Okay - continuity buffs head to this site.


Should answer most of your questions (or at least give you a few more events to thinks about)

Hope it helps.
CorndogBurglar - 5/31/2011, 7:16 AM
sorry, but this article is a little silly, and your reasoning doesn't prove anything. What if Thanos steals the Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers movie? lol. The Avengers takes place after both Iron Man movies, as well as Thor, Hulk, and Cap. So if Thanos were to steal it in The Avengers, then none of this article has any bearing, lol. just saying.

I think the better argument of why Thanos won't have the Gauntlet, IF HE IS EVEN IN THE MOVIE, is because they've already set up the Cosmic Cube to be the powerful artifact in The Avengers. They even showed it, and showed Loki gaining possession of it. So why would they change their minds and put the Infinity Gauntlet in instead. especially when they haven't even shown it in a movie yet. I think we can all agree that both the Infinity Gauntlet AND the Cosmic Cube in the same movie would be totally stupid.

not to mention, there are only two characters in the entire Marvel Universe strong enough to defeat the Gauntlet. The Living Tribunal, and The One Above All. So to think that the Avengers could beat the Gauntlet by themselves, with no cosmic help, is completely ridiculous. The Gauntlet would have to be a very watered down version for it to work in the film, and in my opinion, it would ruin the movie.
CorndogBurglar - 5/31/2011, 7:22 AM

check out my article i wrote a long time ago when they first showed the gauntlet at SDCC. Its very relevant to what this discussion is talking about...
ROBBEATZZZ - 5/31/2011, 8:05 AM
@Shovel415..actualy Thor and IM2 overlaps..agent coulson is sent away to investigate New Mexico..(remember he tells Tony Bye?)that scene was prob halfway through IM2..you seem to be going off the after credit scene when coulson finds the hammer..that scene in Thor was halfway through Thor..which means the first half of Thor took place during IM2
JackBauer - 5/31/2011, 2:10 PM
I'm with Ashdm on this one. The Gauntlet was never actually shown in Thor which means it could be anywhere.
Trembledust - 5/31/2011, 7:02 PM

I see where you are going with the proposed Masters of Evil theme and that's actually what I initially suspected the Avengers movie plot to be.

Since Thanos is still considered rumor I'm not even going to include him into my theorized plot as I still feel that's a pretty huge villain to introduce to movie goers for the first Avengers movie.

I think..and again...could be totally wrong but hey its fun to speculate sometimes...that Loki wants the cosmic cube but needs assistance obtaining it. Possibly he can't take the cube himself cause that fall he took at the end of the Thor movie caused him to be out of phase with the universe.

Since he can't take the cube himself he needs help getting it. The cube may also re-sync him w/ the universe and have him be able to take revenge on all of Asgard and rule it and all of the Nine Relms.

Seeing that he may have some opposition in the form of S.H.I.E.L.D., specifically the newly formed Avengers, he cooks up a plot to keep the Avengers busy by recruiting past enemies the Avengers individually have faught aka the Masters of Evil. He also manipulates the Masters into having them help him obtain the cube w/ the intent of clearly screwing them over once he gets the cube.

The Masters of Evil being the Leader, Red Skull and possibly Baron Zemo, maybe recruiting the Enchantress and the Executioner who would have a better idea of Loki's true intentions.

For some reason I find it hard to think Loki would recruit Hammer as well he's pretty much an idiot and Whiplash / Crimson Dynamo was more a threat then he was. I'd love to see the screenwriters add A.I.M. and M.O.R.D.O.K. which kinda is possible given A.I.M.'s relation to Hydra.

Anywho the Masters cook up a plot to have the HULK go nuts and attack the Avengers at the same time trying to obtain the cube. Once the Avengers stop Hulk and realize that he was being manipulated, and that the Masters of Evil are after the cube, the Avengers go and stop them.

This is basically my thoughts on how it may go down but again I could be completely off.

Real quick...possible way Thor could return to Earth is that Loki mentioned there are different ways other then the Bifrost Bridge to enter the different relms. Its possible Thor finds one of these alternate routes either by himself or with the aide of Jane Foster, uses it, and gets stuck on Earth making it more logical why he would stay with the Avengers.

Again just my theories.
Trembledust - 5/31/2011, 7:24 PM

The Gauntlet was shown in Thor but like Cap's shield in Iron Man and Cap's frozen body in Hulk, if you blinked you missed it. The Gauntlet is shown in the early part of the movie when the Frost Giants breach the armory during Thor's coronation. You could google it. They have pics of where the Gauntlet is shown but again its for a hot second.


Actually its not a question of why would the screenwriters choose the Infinity Guantlet over the Cosmic Cube as the center point of the movie, but rather having the two items joined being something the Avengers need to prevent. It be like in a spy movie where the opening scene is the enemy getting their hands on half of the launch codes to 90% of the world's nuclear missiles and the rest of the movie is focused on the heroes preventing the enemy from obtaining the second half of codes. Ok getting half of the world's nuclear missile codes is pretty far fetched but you know what I am trying to say with this analogy. Hopefully lol.

My knowledge of the Infinity Gauntlet and the Cosmic Cube is kinda fuzzy but aren't they linked in some way and bringing the two together would be cosmically a bad thing to do in the wrong hands? If I am wrong let me know but if I am right the inclusion of the Infinity Gauntlet and the Cosmic Cube together in the same movie wouldn't seem that far fetched of an idea to me.

Even though I am justifying the inclusion of the Infinity Gauntlet and the Cosmic Cube in the film, I agree with you that I don't expect Thanos to be in the film. I mean dats one hell of a villain to spring on people in an origin movie. Be almost like having Superman fight Doomsday, or Darkseid in his origin movie, or introducing the Darkest Night story arc in Green Lantern's first movie.
Trembledust - 5/31/2011, 7:35 PM
Hey sry for writing so much, and this is off topic a bit, but I noticed in the cast for the Avengers the character Abigail Brand (Head of S.W.O.R.D.) is mentioned. If that char is actually in the film, that makes the rumor of the Skrulls being in the film more credible.

I'd actually think its kinda early to spring the Skrull invasion arc so early in the franchise. They could actually introduce her at the end of the film as a lead in to the sequel. Now THAT I would like to see.
blahblahboy - 6/2/2011, 7:43 AM
I'm calling cameo on this one probly just opening a door for a sequel
SecNotSure - 6/9/2011, 12:13 PM
If Thanos is in this movie, I don't think he will have the Infinity Gauntlet to start either. They'll save that for a later film imo. Thanos originally had a cosmic cube and when he lost it, it pushed him to find the infinity gems, so what I think will happen is Loki will start using the cube, find that someone had used it before and contact him, not knowing that it's Thanos, promising to return the powerful item. After all is said and done, and the good guys win, Thanos will learn of an even more powerful item in Asgard and seek it out with Loki's help. Awesome.
Fogs - 6/9/2011, 2:29 PM
meh... wrong reason, the avengers form-up thing.

The avengers were assembled to contain hulk and have him as part of the team because of the alien (kree or skrull) invasion.

As they fight the invasion Thanos breaks into odin's vault (now that the destroyer's gone) and steals the gauntlet.

Then... avengers 2.
DrOttoHarris - 8/20/2011, 1:17 PM
good point could be Loki Thanos and the "Cube" with a few low rent thugs thrown in guys Like Crusher Creel CrowBar etc... In the old Starlin comics Thanos had the cube before he got an idea to get all the gems.
Thanoslives - 8/25/2011, 12:21 AM
I'm not sure where all these theories are coming from. Didn't the Avengers help Captain Marvel fight Thanos when he tried to snuff out the sun with the cosmic cube?

Odin never had the gauntlet. It was assembled by Thanos in The Thanos Quest when he stole the gems from the Elders of the Universe (Champion, etc). Once the gems are together, and the wearer knows how to use it, they are omnipotent. Nobody, even the Living Tribunal, could stand up to Thanos. He b!&$@ slapped everyone (Galactus, Celestials, even Eternity). To think that the Avengers could take on Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is just silly. It would be insulting to Thanos' character. Then again, look how they destroyed Galactus in FF. So dumb... Now, an earlier version of Thanos with a cosmic cube, maybe... I would LOVE for these movies to get more cosmic. I think they have the digital technology to pull it off now. I just hope they don't whimpify Thanos. Check out the Cosmic Powers series and you'll get a glimpse of Thanos' might. I am a little concerned though given how they let Drax take him out so easily. Anyway, I'm rambling. Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet is just way too big for an Avengers movie. Sorry Avengers fans...
charliegaridel1990 - 9/21/2011, 5:38 PM
it could happen. lokis proven he can sneak multiple people in asgard undetected. possibly thanos will steal the gauntlet and then come to earth. as for the unified threat, it could simply be the hulk
charliegaridel1990 - 9/21/2011, 5:38 PM
didnt thanos try to snag the cosmic cube in the comics...which is also on earth...
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