UPDATE 8: Batman 3 Rumor Rundown

<font color='red'>UPDATE 8:</font> <em>Batman 3</em> Rumor Rundown

A review of the news and rumors surrounding the possible sequel to The Dark Knight!

A third chapter in the revamped Batman franchise is probably one of the most highly-anticipated films in comic book movie history. In spite of this, or perhaps because of it, it is also one of the most discussed, rumored about and debated films, as well. To cut through the confusion (or add to it, depending upon how you look at it), here's a compilation of the news and rumors fanning the debates.

Will Christopher Nolan return to direct?

YES Batman on Film (February 2009)
"According to three separate BOF sources, director Christopher Nolan’s recent deal with Warner Bros. for the film INCEPTION, at least includes an agreement between the studio and the acclaimed director to helm his second sequel to BATMAN BEGINS."

MAYBE Christian "Batman" Bale (April 2009)

"Will we do a third movie? It's got to be the right story. You can't make something like The Dark Knight and then come out with something disappointing.

"I would like it if people say, 'You'll never make a good third movie.' I say, 'OK, let's make a third movie in that case, let's prove them wrong. But that's just me. The fact is, I have to! I've signed up! Chris doesn't. So I'm in a bit of a fix if he says he doesn't want to!"

MAYBE Christopher Nolan Representative (February 2009)

"He is doing Inception next. We haven't announced any deal or anything on the next Batman as that is all speculation."

YES Gary "Commissioner Gordon" Oldman (July 2009)

"[Yes,] but you didn't hear that from me."

YES (SOMEDAY) Gary Oldman (July 2009)

"Well, I'm sure they want to do another one... it might 2 or 3 years..."

YES (MAYBE) David S. Goyer (June 2009)

"Well, I believe he said if we can find the story that he's happy with, that he would return. And unfortunately, respecting Chris… You know, talk to him after he finishes Inception, which he's shooting right now. That just started shooting.

You know, we've been talking [about story ideas]."

NO (MAYBE) Michael "Alfred" Caine (November 2009)

"As for the future... if they ever make another Batman I will be in, I will be the butler..."

"But I don't know if they are ever going to make another Batman. If they do it won't be for quite a while."

YES Morgan "Lucius Fox" Freeman (December 2009)

"I know—I just know—that Chris is working on number three. He couldn't possibly not be."

UPDATE 5: YES (Well, his brother is, so...) Deadline Hollywood (February 2010)

"Now FlashForward showrunner David Goyer has left with 5 episodes still to shoot. Of course, Goyer's feature career is really heating up, since he co-wrote Batman Begins, and penned the story for The Dark Knight, and is now writing the third Batman installment with Chris Nolan's brother Jonah."

UPDATE 6: YES (If he's mentoring Superman, then...) Deadline Hollywood (February 2010)

"Warner Bros is trying to ready its DC Comics stalwart Superman to soar again on the Big Screen, and the studio has turned to Chris Nolan to mentor development of the movie. Our insiders say that the brains behind rebooted Batman has been asked to play a "godfather" role and ensure The Man Of Steel gets off the ground after a 3 1/2-year hiatus... now [Chris Nolan's] brother and frequent collaborator Jonathan "Jonah" Nolan, and David Goyer who co-wrote and penned the story for The Dark Knight, are off scripting it."

UPDATE 7: YES Nestor "Mayor Anthony Garcia" Carbonell (February 2010)

"That was an awesome gig. It was such an incredible experience to work with not only Chris Nolan, but the incredible cast, and, yeah, to be part of the Batman...I guess now it will be a trilogy. It was great to get to put on the suit and represent the city."

UPDATE 8: YES (CONFIRMED) Christopher Nolan (March 2010)

"My brother is writing a script for me and we’ll wait to see how it turns out.... He's struggling to put it together into the epic story that you want it to be.

"Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story. And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story.

"We have a great ensemble, that's one of the attractions of doing another film, since we've been having a great time for years."

Will we see Two-Face and The Scarecrow again?

Aaron "Two-Face" Eckhart (September 2009)

"If Chris called me, I would certainly do it.

As far as I'm concerned, my character's dead. I've sort of just gone on with my life. I don't have any expectations of being in the next Dark Knight, if there is a Dark Knight. I have no knowledge of one.

I would do anything for Chris. If Chris wanted me to ... I don't know, bring his tea or something like that, I would do it. I had such a good time making that movie, and he's such a great filmmaker."

Cillian "Scarecrow" Murphy (October 2009)

"I hope they make a third one. I think The Dark Knight was one of the greatest films.

[But, Nolan and I] don’t talk about those things. It's out of my control.

"[The Dark Knight is] one of the greatest blockbuster mainstream movies. If anyone can match that or top that it’s Chris. Fingers crossed."

Who will play the villains?

Johnny Depp as The Riddler and Phillip Seymor Hoffman as The Penguin

Michael Caine (September 2008)

"When Christopher said we were going to do The Dark Knight next, I didn't what that meant in Batman terms. I said, 'What's the story?' and he said The Joker. I said, 'Oh, s--t! How are you going to top Jack [Nicholson]?' He said, 'Well, I've cast Heath Ledger. And I went 'Ha! I couldn't top Jack, but if anyone could, maybe Heath could.' And he did.

"I was with [a Warner Bros.] executive and I said, 'Are we going to make another one?' They said yeah. I said, 'How the hell are we going to top Heath? And he says 'I'll tell you how you top Heath -- Johnny Depp as The Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman as The Penguin.' I said, 'S--t, they've done it again!'"

Johnny Depp (June 2009)

"I'd definitely juggle it."

Michael Caine (September 2009)

"There is nobody, there's no script, there's nothing. It can't possibly be made before 2011 because Inception is such a big picture.

"Johnny Depp is great in anything, but there is no Johnny Depp in this Batman. They tell me in no uncertain terms."

UPDATE 1: Dane Cook as The Riddler

Dane Cook (November 2009)

"If they brought back The Riddler — a new Riddler the way they did with The Joker — that would be badass. I would do that.

"When they were making the new one and they were doing The Joker, I always thought it [should be] kind of like The Crow — having that dark element but still comedic. It would probably have to be something in that vein, even though I think what Heath Ledger did with the Joker was the greatest comic book villain ever."

UPDATE 2: David Tennant as The Riddler

David Tennant (December 2009)

"I probably should be [playing The Riddler]. But, you'd think my agent would have mentioned something if it was true."

UPDATE 3: Sienna Miller as Catwoman

Sienna Miller (January 2010)

"[I would like to play] Catwoman. I actually love Catwoman. I just think the idea of being half-cat and half-woman is a great kind of villain-esque persona. It's the age-old thing of a femme fatale."

UPDATE 4: Will Batman 3 even happen?

Morgan "Lucius Fox" Freeman (February 2010)

"Well... I always say, now I've been asked this question a number of times, and I don't think that Warner Brothers... the board of directors... the chairman or the president... or any of those people are stupid.

"Which means there's going to be another Batman movie.

"Now, [my involvement is] not carved in stone. We'll only know that when the script is written and the same guy's writing the third script, if there is to be one."


See above.

Originally published November 14, 2009
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DTLSinger - 11/14/2009, 9:10 PM
Yeah i agree Depp as Riddler and Hoffman as Penguin BUT Hoffman already said he wouldn't do it for fear of screwing up the character. It would be an EPIC movie thought.
TheGambitFreak - 11/14/2009, 9:12 PM
cool. hope they do it i know it'll be hard to top.

Weapon420 - 11/14/2009, 9:17 PM
The Dark Knight was a modern masterpiece but that doesn't mean the next one won't be, da Vinci made one masterpiece after the other, I would bet anything that Nolan can do the same! Here's hoping that they find the right story and find the best villain for the role, maybe Bane and The Riddler or just one of them.
Bijous - 11/14/2009, 9:22 PM
I have no doubt that as long as they keep Goyer and Nolan involved, it will be epic. It's really hard to compare one movie to another and I'm not concerned if the third one "tops" TDK or not, just as long as it's good.

I think it's funny that Michael Caine, who has one of the smallest--though no less important--role of Alfred is the one who does the most talking about it.

Johnny Depp as the Riddler? Helz, yeah, I would pay to wach that movie!
InTylerWeTrust - 11/14/2009, 9:36 PM
I agree with Multi, except I think they should do a Superman reboot, and incorporate that Superman into the JL film. Create a new Batman for the new DC film universe.

Hopefully Nolan returns and we see an amazing finish to an amazing Bat-trilogy. Here's hoping!

And David Tennant for the Riddler ;) Couldn't resist.
Magicfingers - 11/14/2009, 9:42 PM
My love for comics has only grown since seeing Nolan's Batman series. He knows how to put just the right spin to each major character. To watch another Dark Knight film would make me jump for joy. Plus, to see Depp in the role of the Riddler... EPIC WIN!!!
@WEAPON420- Nice name and avatar. :D
I agree with all of the above, except for Bane... Batman and Robin kind of killed it for me. He is a good villian, but only if he is portrayed as he was in the comic or in the animated series. Smart, strong, psychotic, and Evil to the core. That is the only way it will work.
bsprecher - 11/14/2009, 9:51 PM
@Multi: That's the costume, bro, can't change that. But, if Nolan wants to go "realistic" with the films, he should consider using the suit from Batman: Dead End:

bsprecher - 11/14/2009, 9:57 PM
@Multi: Tell me you've seen Batman: Dead End!

If not...

Instantclassic - 11/14/2009, 9:58 PM
I hope they do another Batman, and have all the people they need back
InTylerWeTrust - 11/14/2009, 9:58 PM
I too am tired of the super-armored Batman costume.

They really should make the costume more like the comics. It's awesome without being overly complex.
InTylerWeTrust - 11/14/2009, 10:13 PM
Multi: Totally agree on both accounts. Batman's whole shtick is being scary as f*ck, but doing it with the simplest of terms. It makes him that much more dark and mysterious if he doesn't rely on super-complex armor and uses a subtler approach.

I did think it was unrealistic for him to basically want to quit when Dent came strolling through. They made such a huge deal about Bruce wanting to be Gotham's symbol and "ever-lasting" yet, as soon as he sees someone other than him improving Gotham, he's like, "This guy's got it covered, I quit."
Magicfingers - 11/14/2009, 10:15 PM
@MultiPurposePoni- OH GOD, YES! Weak willed... that is not the Bruce Wayne I know. No matter how good things are, there is always some form of street scum for the Bat to take care of.
SHHH - 11/14/2009, 10:22 PM

Love your avatar
InTylerWeTrust - 11/14/2009, 10:23 PM
I would love to see a d*ckish Batman in JL, just like in the animated series. That show nailed it. Too bad they didn't show the Batman/Hal Jordan angle though, that would have been great.
Magicfingers - 11/14/2009, 10:34 PM
@Multi & Tyler- I agree with you about the 'BAD GUY' persona. Batman and Superman are like two sides of the same coin. One dark and beaten, the other sunny and strong. It's a must have if you want the two to share the same screen.
I really don't think that there was that much error in Nolan's Batman films. I've learned to take my comic movies with a grain of salt and not to expect much in way of "Authenticity", but Nolan did a great job (IMO).
Magicfingers - 11/14/2009, 10:36 PM
@SHHH- Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah... BATDOG! LOL
InTylerWeTrust - 11/14/2009, 10:41 PM
Magic: I agree man. Nolan's movies are some of my favorite of all time. But, even I have to admit when he strayed from the comics at points. It doesn't change the quality of them for me.
Magicfingers - 11/14/2009, 10:47 PM
@Tyler- True. May they find their way back to the path BEFORE they make a sequel.
Weapon420 - 11/14/2009, 11:09 PM
@Magicfingers and @SHHH, thank you for diggin my avatar!!

also @Magicfingers, I know what you mean and I think Bane should be portrayed the same way as the animated series or if its the last Batman for Nolan they could do an unexpected turn at the end where they take the story from Batman:Knightfall, Part 1 Broken Bat and show Bane crippling the Bat, just a thought, it'd be interesting to see since they make the movies darker than the last.
LEEE777 - 11/15/2009, 12:54 AM
Oh yeah, DEAD END cool!!

And thanx for the heads up!! Its great having all the facts/updates/rumors all in the one articles, kudos @ BRENT!

; )
PhillyHulk - 11/15/2009, 1:28 AM
they should wait a couple of years and the follow the dark knight returns story line, thats the way to end the 3 movies.
shibazz - 11/15/2009, 1:33 AM
hey CMB! can i change my email status just cuz its time to be light as a feather?

GTRMAN- C. Bartram ? i mean who else is ther , really?! his last name almost spells BatMan! I love BatMan DeadEnd! Your spirit quote is right as rain. and you are right about the "Boner"

And it is true about BatMan being a wrecking ball of Societies ill... but he is studied and usually he is kind of a socialist. which i admire. He pursues the actual participation of the people to change the world and own it as they see fit. Too much more and he becomes a Dictator. As it stands he has more in common with those poets i cant stand than he does with some militaristic Munch wad who is simply following orders. Thats why he thinks Hal is simply just Hal Jordan , but Bruce Wayne as the BatMan is sooooo much more. Saying that Hal is the Green Lantern Where as Bruce is not the BatMan and always sees through to the truth of the matter. Bruce is the true power of the Bat.
Zero1 - 11/15/2009, 2:16 AM
Zero1 has something genericly negative to say
Zero1 - 11/15/2009, 2:19 AM
like I do
LEEE777 - 11/15/2009, 2:44 AM
WEAPON @ Diggin' your AVATAR too dude!!
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 5:37 AM
I thank god they decided to go with the armour costume instead of the 'kill-me-easily-with-a-bullet-spandex' costume in dead end

you lot hate it but atleast it doesnt change the fact that they are sticking to it (phew sigh of relief)

the early batman series costume was spandex and that worked...for that era. The 'see my nipples and firm buttox' custume was laughable. But the up to date armour version nailed it in my oppinion. To have spandex nowadays is to halloween and campy

so bring on Batman 3!
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 5:47 AM
loool @multi

but HOW campy should it be? :)
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 6:00 AM

only bcuz someone said they want it done like 'dead end' which was good but to take the costume seriously? i like TDK for its realism and beliveability, the reason why i HATE spandex with an extreme passion is that it reminds me of a kickass or defendor movie which is a comedy not a serious comicbook movie thats all.

ok make the suit look more like the movies just no rubber or spandex
Watchtower31 - 11/15/2009, 6:02 AM
Wow Michael Caine is kind of a hope killer.
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 6:24 AM
Neoprene? hell no iz just a diff kinda spandex lool

however nomex looks good an i like the idea of armour underneath..thats why i hated spandex ~(well apart from the campy look of it)

point made multi
hush - 11/15/2009, 6:27 AM
Personally, I don't want to see The Riddler in a Batman movie. There are other Bat-Villains I would rather see introduced, especially as there is no guarantee of a fourth film.

I like the idea of Penguin, the new gang boss. I'd like Catwoman, as a cat burglar, perhaps knocking off The Penguins goods. Plus with Batman out to ruin old beak nose, he hires his own 'assassin' to take out The Bat and The Cat. And that assassin could be a number of people; Bane, Deadshot. Or Deathstroke? Even Lady Shiva.

Instead of Penguin you could use Black Mask, should you want to (why would you want to? I dunno, some people have an affinity for some weird characters). Have Killer Croc as Penguins/Masks henchman. Not a big part in the film, just a nod to the fans and the character, like Mr Zsasz.

Gang warfare for control of Gotham? Two sides (Black Mask and Penguin) both fighting for control?

I wish they'd introduced Tommy Elliot in the first film as a childhood friend of Bruces. Pffft...

Christuffer - 11/15/2009, 6:28 AM
Why are you guys talkin' about this? Lol shouldn't you be excited there is even rumors to post about?

I think his suit was awesomey awesome :)
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 6:30 AM

its how we show our xcitement lol
comicboyV1 - 11/15/2009, 6:45 AM
@ hush ­ yes finally someone mentions deathstroke!

Personally I don't want to see riddler or catwoman or any other villin we have already seen on film. Deathstoke is the perfect villin for the job. He would fit well in the nolanverse and would push batmans fighting and detective skills to the limit
comicboyV1 - 11/15/2009, 7:05 AM
There are just a lot of great batman villins who are good enough for a movie that are always getting left undone. Besides if any batvillin needs a shot at being rebooted its poor mr.freeze I mean come on he got more screwed then any of the others combined
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 7:24 AM

ok im sorry professor poni loool
i meant how it looks not the type of material

I guesse you know about all that stuff cuz u served in the army? the closest thing to army i work in iz security so you beat me in rank......sir lol
6of13 - 11/15/2009, 7:26 AM
Multi: You would not walk up to the Undertaker and tell him he looks like a spazz in that spandex now would you?
And the fact that Batman needs to be somewhat nimble (being a martial artist and escape artist and all), spandex is certainly much easier and lighter than all that body armour.
6of13 - 11/15/2009, 7:35 AM
Actually, I am supporting the idea of a spandex/neoprene costume. Not deriding it.
Hawksblueyes - 11/15/2009, 7:40 AM
The old 80's shiny spandex as we know it, doesn't work period. Whatever the new material is that they used for the Spider Man and Superman movies worked fantastically. Spidey and Supes costumes are just under Captain Americas for most difficult to not look gay, and they pulled it off. As awsome as thier costumes are in the comics, they are almost impossible to make believable on film, and yet it happened.
Ok, I'm sorry, Wolverines' yellow and blue would be the hardest. Though his classic brown costume would look pretty baddass and completely believable in leather.
TheLivingWeapon - 11/15/2009, 7:49 AM
@multi no disrespect but i realy dont care what type of material it is, if it has that spandex 'look' i hate it, i care neither what the fibres are it just looks campy.

and i was being sarcastic about being similar to the army maybe they way i type just doesnt do my sarcastic nature justice lool

Well all pointless bickering aside...they ain gunna change the armour so i'll b happy with the 3rd movie in that regard
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