Captain America: The First Avenger Videos

Captain America: The First Avenger by Mr Chuff


marvel72 - 8/2/2011, 9:38 AM
i want the characters as we know them from the comics and the story can suffer a little if we get those characters.
siddhant1138 - 8/2/2011, 9:48 AM
I want the characters as we know them from the comics AND a fantastic story. Why can't I have both :(
Moakynubs - 8/2/2011, 9:52 AM
These poll results are completely opposite of the opinions I'm seeing on the comments all the time. far.
Sortis - 8/2/2011, 10:02 AM
If you change the characters as they are in the comics they aren't those characters anymore...and if you truly want them changed you aren't a fan of the characters, you're just a bandwagon junkie, which i'm starting to think 90% of the people on this site are. Do you people even read comics?!
Sparrowsabre7 - 8/2/2011, 10:09 AM
I want a good story first and foremost, but I wanted something between 1. and 2.

The source shouldn't be chucked out the window, but adaptation is welcomed by me, as long as the essence is retained. It should still be an adaptation. If the story and characters are 100% different then you're just using the name really.

But Men In Black was an awesome film despite (maybe in spite of) being so different from the comics, but then that's not a fair comparison, being that I never read Men in Black.
brewtownpsych - 8/2/2011, 10:18 AM
ugh, as long as it's well written, the rest is just taste ... for me, i prefer the gritty realism of nolan's batman to the popcorn heroics of captain america though i enjoyed that film. most importantly, film is a COMPLETELY different medium than comic books, why can't you have both? have the batman in the comics and then do a separate movie with any deviation from the "essence" as somebody called it, as necessary to make the MOVIE (i.e., not a comic book) better. it's like the nerds that demanded the LOTR follow the books exactly. no, the films are masterpieces in their own right, separate and apart from the source material. that's the true respect for source material: honoring it with a good movie, not slavishly reproducing what already exists in print.
kevshardlemonade - 8/2/2011, 10:27 AM
How about somewhat fantastical elements seemingly grounded in *movie reality* so it doesn't feel silly plus a good story that captures the essence of the stories and character while adapting them in a accessible/plausible way and honoring the source material without being a slave to it? Or how about tone that fits the character and his universe? People make it seem like all cbm's should either be dark, gritty, and realistic or they should all be campy, silly, and unbelievable or they should all be gothic etc. etc. Every comic book has a different flavor. Without variety, the genre would be boring. I think with iconic superheroes though, whether light-hearted or dark, they need to feel real thus why, you keep hearing "grounded in reality"
kevshardlemonade - 8/2/2011, 10:31 AM
I think with iconic superheroes though, whether light-hearted or dark, they need to feel real thus why, you keep hearing "grounded in reality". They dont mean Hulk will be a guy painted green or The Flash will be a track runner, they mean they will make these characters come to life and make you believe a man dressed up as a bat or mutants are real (in cinematic form). Alot of closed minded people on forums or on here just don't get that and think grounded in reality means no costumes or no superpowers if the hero has a costume or superpowers for example.
superpooper - 8/2/2011, 11:52 AM
@sortis Thank you. Couldn't have said it better. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
superpooper - 8/2/2011, 11:54 AM
Don't mind a little face lift here and there, but the goal of these movies should be to bring to life the characters we read about in the books. That's the magic of it. Stray to far from that and you're just making a movie, not a cbm.
kerry67 - 8/2/2011, 12:02 PM
I get what you are trying to do here, but the choices seem a bit...restrictive. I'll go with the following:
1. Strong characterizations that mirror those found in the comic books
2. Accurately reflect the dress, backstory and major story points of the comics source, making only changes that are neccessary due to historical, technological or logical advancements (e.g. Peter Parker was bitten by a genetically engineered spider, Tony Stark was injured in Afghanistan.)
3. Don't kill off the villain at the end of every one of these movies. Even if the villain never returns in a sequel, the POTENTIAL for that event plays out in the viewer's imagination much better. The end of 1989's Batman is a prime example of killing the momentum of the franchise.

These are a few off the top of my head. The comics are a rich mine of story ore, and we all know the standout stories. Keep everything working with the same internal logic, and they'll be great.

Moonwalker1991 - 8/2/2011, 12:15 PM
Panel to Panel translation from comic to film. Example: Thor/ Captain America.
cgriffith - 8/2/2011, 12:18 PM
If your going to makes movies about comics - then they should be about the comic character, his/her history and there stories, period.
mandoe40 - 8/2/2011, 1:45 PM
cbm's should simply bring the characters to life
the story should be simple
bad starts trouble/good guy kicks his ass
the story dont mean sh*t if the costumes suck and the action is lame(xmen:fc)
and please god! choose a quality villian
enough with the realism alreadt
cartman87 - 8/2/2011, 3:05 PM
@sortis I agree Totally. Minor tweeks are acceptable but too many changes and the characters aren't the same as we read and like.If you are doing it to draw new readers in to the comic universe they will be disappointed that the comics don't match the films . So it really isn't good for anybody.
brewtownpsych - 8/2/2011, 8:55 PM
for those of you who want slavish reproductions of the character on film you need to get a better grasp on reality me thinks. first of all, it's a MOVIE, not a comic book. secondly, why does there have to be rules? even if it's loosely based on this or that character, if it's a good movie, it's a good movie, period. you are being dogmatic if you demand something be a slavish reproduction just because you prefer it that way. you will be unnecessarily missing out on, you guessed it, a good MOVIE. disregarding an otherwise good movie because it doesn't have ant-man in it is just ridiculous. and lastly, and more importantly, you are forgetting that even with in comic books there are MULTIPLE VERSIONS AND UNIVERSES AND STORY LINES, so just because this version of the X-Men happens in this setting or with this group of characters is just as arbitrary as the Hulk originally being purple, then later changing, then being intelligent, then being much weaker, etc. Things change with such rapidity in the comic books themselves you almost have to ask yourself, to which story do i demand the movie stick to. absurd question to begin with. just make a good movie. if the movie is better because it has cheeky references or lots of cool nods to the fans so be it, but don't demand it be so "just because", especially if it detracts from the quality of the film.
hartley07 - 8/3/2011, 2:04 AM
The comics can be a little more out there because I think we see them as a cartoon, and cartoons can bend the rules. I like to see a little bit of realism in the movies becasue we are watching real live actors. For example, I like the mechanical web shooters in the cartoon and comics of spiderman, but in the movies, I think i prefer raimi's organic webs because watching a 15 year old on screen make gadgets on par with tony stark and bruce wayne is a little hard to buy. But again, we go to the movies to escape realism sometimes, so I can see the argument from the other side.

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