COMICS: Grant Morrison On AVENGERS VS. X-MEN: "That Ain't My Scott Summers"

COMICS: Grant Morrison On AVENGERS VS. X-MEN: "That Ain't My Scott Summers"

Grant Morrison, writer of New X-Men, has shared his thoughts on the way in which the fall of Scott Summers/Cyclops was handled in Avengers Vs. X-Men, and like most fans, he's not a fan of the direction that Marvel have taken the character in.

While writers like Joss Whedon and Kieron Gillen have spent the last few years fleshing out Cyclops, it should also be remembered that Grant Morrison arguably kicked off that trend with his run on New X-Men. It was in that series that we saw Scott Summers really come into his own, leading a team of X-Men and even ending his relationship with Jean Grey in order to hook up with Emma Frost (a character that he has been in a relationship with ever since). It's understandable then that Morrison isn't best pleased with how Cyclops was handled in Avengers Vs. X-Men. Many thanks to Comic Book Resources for the following excerpt from a panel at this year's New York Comic Con.

[I haven't] actually seen it. I read about it online. That ain't my Scott Summers. That ain't my guy. The guys working on those characters are trying something new, trying to push the story and I'm fine with it but I didn't recognize him and I don't think he'd do any of those things. Maybe he's been possessed -- he's always getting possessed, that guy. Maybe he likes it."

So, he's not exactly as fuming as the majority of Cyclops fans, but he's clearly not loving the fact that the character was arguably handled VERY poorly in the series which wrapped up two weeks ago. More comments from Morrison can be found by clicking the link below, including the fact that he doesn't like the current iteration of 'Animal Man' being tied into the Red and his plans for the return of the villainous 'Dr. Hurt' in Batman Incorporated. What do you make of what he has to say above? Be sure to sound off with your thoughts in the usual place!

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jj2112 - 10/15/2012, 5:48 AM
Marvel is frakking up almost all its characters big time.
MrBlueSky - 10/15/2012, 5:58 AM
Am i the only person on this site who actually likes Grant's work and doesn't constantly bitch about it *cough* steverogersson *cough*. I liked his work on New X-Men, JLA, and his run on Batman. The dude's one of my favorite comic writers (along with Brian Michael Bendis.
HugeCapfan - 10/15/2012, 6:00 AM
After Morrison is done with Dc, he could come back to Marvel and write the Cyclops he wanted, and make what happened to him 'possessed', ...

Look at Professor X, he became Onslaught back in the 90s, and got almost all of Marvel heroes sent off into that Heroes Reborn stunt/promo/outsourcing/event. Prof X became evil because he accidently absorbed Magneto's evil essence in a weird mind zap, ...and then the heroes returned, forgave Prof and went along, ....
JustDame - 10/15/2012, 6:02 AM
It was the cyclops of zur en arrh
Grievo - 10/15/2012, 6:02 AM
Grant Morrison made Cyclops relevant again for the first time since the original Pheonix saga; having said that, I felt that Morrison's take on him in New X-Men laid the groundwork for this iteration of Cyclops (adding in more depth, pathos and moral ambiguity). Morrison also helped make Cyclops my favorite mutant, and I love that his horizons have been broadened.
hush - 10/15/2012, 6:06 AM
Ha ha ha @ JustDame

I can't help but feel Marvel are holding the X-Men back due to the movie rights. Maybe it's just me...

Just bring back the old Cyke. Please.
jimoakley666 - 10/15/2012, 6:09 AM
@MrBlueSky - Also bloody love his work on New X-Men. I think it's the best run on a comic I've ever read bar none.

@JustinCJWiggins - I agree. Morrison was the first guy who made me give a damn about Cyclops.
superotherside - 10/15/2012, 6:13 AM
Completely agree with him. Didn't like how he was in AvX either. At first he seemed ok, but then later he turned out to be a complete villain. Even more of a villain than Stark was in Civil War. The difference between AvX and Civil War is that on Civil War you could see how you could be on either side. AvX it basically said, "The X-men are dumb but the Avengers are awesome." Horribly played Marvel. You better make up for your mistakes recently with Marvel Now...
kevberg - 10/15/2012, 6:18 AM

Thats ok, Grants X-men wasn't mine either. I quit reading when he made the x-men basically a team of morlocks..which goes against what the the basic idea of mutants being hidden and anyone sitting next to you could be a mutant.
gurugeorge - 10/15/2012, 6:27 AM
Morrison's brilliant, it's just that there's often (not always, but often) something a bit off about his pacing or storytelling. One doesn't always "get" a Morrison story on first reading, and it may seem as if it doesn't make sense. Usually it does make perfect sense on second or third reading. Contrasting with Alan Moore, you always "get" the story on the first reading - somehow he's a bit better of a storyteller, the plot points are more salient above the ideas, whereas with Morrison, one's so captivated by the rush of ideas that one may miss some plot points on the first reading.
Spideyguy94 - 10/15/2012, 6:34 AM
Scott summers was a different character long before AVX i just don't like the fact cyclops is gonna be treated like a dick until the next big event like iron man in civil war
Shadowelfz - 10/15/2012, 6:36 AM
Haha right HalloweenJack. He WAS the one who made him into a brooding toolbag who cheated on the love of his life with a woman not up to her caliber. More appropriately Morrision put Cyclops on the path but the morons who wrote this story just took him way farther down it than Morrison intended.

Still, I do agree with him on this. While I dont like what Morrison did with Cyclops he DID give him personality for a change so Ill give him that. What AvX and Marvel in general has been doing with Cyclops is downright terrible.
MatchesMalone1989 - 10/15/2012, 6:36 AM
You tell em Grant!
nowtheresaBATman - 10/15/2012, 6:37 AM
why's he wearing Nightwings' costume?

oh & if "ain't" isn't a word why's it used?
JeffG - 10/15/2012, 6:39 AM
If you haven't read it then you can't have an opinion on it. Having read all 12 issues and being a long time Xmen reader, I believe Scott has been becoming more desperate over the years since Scarlet Witch uttered, "No more mutants." Enter the solution in Hope and the power of the Phoenix and its logical that those choices would be made.
nowtheresaBATman - 10/15/2012, 6:39 AM
@jimoakley666 lol what? bar none...
BlanketMan - 10/15/2012, 6:48 AM
What happened to the "Shawn Ashmore returning as Iceman?" story? Has that story been debunked?
MovieTheaterLad - 10/15/2012, 6:50 AM

Iron Man was always kind of a Dick, but in a funny and endearing way.
jimoakley666 - 10/15/2012, 6:56 AM
@nowtheresaBATman Yeah, that's a phrase in Britain. You never heard of that?
polarkyle - 10/15/2012, 7:00 AM
i can never imagine cyclops as a villain
simpleman - 10/15/2012, 7:11 AM
He just wanted to rebirth his kind, because nor Avengers, nor any other superhero team doesn't care for it, and he did it. And Xavier did nothing, but only "dreamed".

I actually liked Morrison's mind and sense shattered Cyclops after Apocalypse possession, but I liked him before, like in first "Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix", and later, "Astonishing X-Men", for example.
xcrementus - 10/15/2012, 7:11 AM
awesome review by Grant Morrison. Oh wait, he didn't read it? never mind.
also, I'm a cyclops fan, and i'm not fuming, I saw this coming years ago and its been a fun ride.
DetBullock - 10/15/2012, 7:15 AM
So far his only stories I didn't like were Kill Your Boyfriend and his Marvel one-shot about Nick Fury (it felt a bit like an overlong Chuck Norris fact).
ATrueHero1987 - 10/15/2012, 7:16 AM
@HalloweenJack lol, I have to ask...Stigmartyr/Intruder is that you??
orpheus - 10/15/2012, 7:25 AM
Morrison is my favorite writer and his New X-Men DEFINED the X-Men for me - he made them more teachers with crazy abilities than super heroes, challenged the 'world' the X-Men lived in, made them vibrant and deep characters, valuing story over the next fight or epic battle. New X-Men and Uncanny X-Force are the two Marvel titles I've enjoyed the most.
Spideyguy94 - 10/15/2012, 7:47 AM
@MovieTheater true but during and after civil war everyone was treating iron man like a complete asshole even though he was doing the right thing. In civil war the public votes for superhero registration which I think makes iron man have a good reason for pro reg captain America acts like a total prick in civil war and to an extent AVX but not as bad I think cyclops had a good reason to say no to cap he's trying to protect his people before the whole Phoenix thing came in
hush - 10/15/2012, 7:54 AM
I'm more disturbed by the New Avengers ending and AvX Consequences, I won't spoil it, but it's not pretty.

And the amazingly terrible Marvel Zom... sorry, Marvel Universe v Avengers.

DC is far from perfect at the moment, although it does have some good titles, Marvel couldn't suck any more if it tried right now.
nowtheresaBATman - 10/15/2012, 8:08 AM
@Halloween Jack -Yeah I know what "bar none" means.....I was refurring to the "best run on a comic" comment in jimoakley666's reply to BlueSky
Spideyguy94 - 10/15/2012, 8:10 AM
Apart from superior spider-man and whatever Daniel way is writing all the creative teams for marvel now are great remender and Hickman doing all avengers titles is the best thing they could've done for a while dc on the other hand have only got 4 great titles batman swap thing green lantern and aquaman what they've done to green arrow and superman is insulting
AlcoholicA - 10/15/2012, 8:17 AM
"character derailment" and "character development" are not the same thing
AlcoholicA - 10/15/2012, 8:31 AM
Been reading cyclops for years and years. Not against him losing his shît and becoming a bad guy, just don't think it was done well.
Spideyguy94 - 10/15/2012, 8:39 AM
@HalloweenJack I totally agree marvel has got daredevil remenders venom run scarlet spider hickmans ff ultimate spider-man uncanny x-force punisher and cap just to name a few
GarthRanzz - 10/15/2012, 9:04 AM
I thought cap was worse written than Scott. Read Civil War then go straight to this. Its two completely different characters.
jimoakley666 - 10/15/2012, 9:15 AM
Who gives a [frick] what THIS filth says ---> SteveRogersSon
AlcoholicA - 10/15/2012, 9:20 AM

Don't think there could have been a good ending. The ending that SHOULD HAVE happened, based on what was written before everyone started acting out of character, would have been the X-Men fixing the world and reigniting the mutant race with the P Force. But that would have made for a boring Marvel world. Seeing that as the logical outcome based on actions that are within the league of their characters, Marvel had to come up with this bullshît.

If you want anymore from me on that then I have to say this. I'm not a professional writer, it's not my job to come up with good content. It's my job to read them, and since I put my money on it I give my opinion on it, and it sucked.

You don't have to be a talented singer to recognize with a professional hits a wrong note.
ATrueHero1987 - 10/15/2012, 9:24 AM
@HalloweenJack uh, yea. You do sound like ex. An intense dislike for Cyclops & for people that like that character. That's why I ask if you're Intruder/Stigmartyr.
GazelTGM - 10/15/2012, 9:38 AM
Didn't Morrison write Magneto as the perpetrator of his very own Holocaust?

Whether or not Cyclops was handled correctly in Avengers vs. X-Men, I'm happy never to see Morrison's version of Cyclops, or any other Marvel character, ever again.
SCURVYDOG619 - 10/15/2012, 9:39 AM
In wrestling terms,Cyclops turned heel after being pretty much a white-meat babyface for YEARS...

Whereas Wolverine has been a 'tweener',another wrestling term for having heelish tendencies but getting a babyface reaction from the crowd...

Tweener can also be interpreted as antihero,to put it in another context..
luckylu - 10/15/2012, 10:29 AM
jeez dude..let people have their opinion. just cause it doesnt match yours does not mean its wrong.
AlcoholicA - 10/15/2012, 10:38 AM

You're right. Sorry for having an opinion. You are clearly superior, and obviously not biased AGAINST Cyke the way you bash me for being TOWARDS. I have many reasons why i think it was written poorly that I have already posted on previous articles that I don't feel the need to retype.

Cop Out because I didn't write an ending to a Marvel crossover event in my spared time at work just to please you? Then cop out it is....

You're putting words in my mouth about somethings. I guess that makes it easier for you to argue your points. So I guess that you have never criticized a story before? or that you are a talented writer that we don't know about? Or I guess the only way you can have a negative opinion about a story is to first draft a complete treatment for how you would have done it incase there's someone on the forum that tries to make things personal with you?

Clearly I should have known, and I apologize.
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