EDITORIAL: Female Superheroes Deserve Their Own Blockbuster Movies!

EDITORIAL: Female Superheroes Deserve Their Own Blockbuster Movies!

A guy's perspective on the shocking lack of well done big screen adaptions for female comic book superheroes. My thoughts on why movie studios are hesitant, what superheroines would translate well to the big screen, and why comic book companies are missing out on such an important demographic, women!

Before I start, I would like to give a very special thanks to JULEZ13 for proof reading my article and correcting my spelling/grammar mistakes. Also, for her great encouragement to publish it.

I am a guy who is writing about why female superheroes deserve more attention on the big screen. If that is interesting and/or somehow funny to you, well you might be surprised at how good of a read I have on this. With me being a guy, I truly hope I do my best in representing how female comic book fans feel about this subject and why it is so important to them, and girls in general. I was inspired to write this editorial after replying to a fellow CBMer(a female member) about the serious lack of great female superhero movies. I did a long rant, and felt I had much more to say on this surprising issue. Why is it so hard to translate such great, iconic female comic book characters on the big screen?

Well, unfortunately, female comic book characters have had their share of trouble in their own solo outings: Supergirl, Tank Girl, Catwoman, Elektra, and Aeon Flux. Some of the casting choices for the lead characters were good, but everything else was a mess. Not only were those movies critically panned, but they also performed poorly at the box office. Movie studios see this, and think there isn't enough demand to justify making a solo full-length feature film about a female comic book character. This is where in fact, these movie studios couldn't be more wrong. While those movies about comic book characters didn't do well, action movies with lead female characters did. This is only a small amount of ass kicking females whose movies did well: The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Alien, Aliens, Tomb Raider, Kill Bill Vol. 1, etc.

These movies did well because they were well written, casted, produced so on and so forth. I included Tomb Raider in there because even though it received so-so reviews(I personally thought it was good video game movie adaption), it performed very well at the box office, even enough for Paramount to warrant greenlighting a sequel, Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life(not as good as the first movie). If that same kind of effort could be applied to solo comic book movie adaptions for female superheroes, the movies would fill seats. It's not impossible for a lead female character to headline a movie and have it be great. It has been done before in other genres of films. Now, it's time for movie studios to step up efforts in an area where female characters need it the most, comic book movies!

The Avengers is one of the comic book movies where female characters lived up to their potential. I was really impressed by Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow this time around. She exceeded my expectations and more than made up for her portrayal in Iron Man 2(I blame the script and director, not her). Also, Cobie Smulders did an excellent job as Maria Hill. She's not a superhero, but she is a female character that is an important part of the Marvel Universe. I believe these characters did well because of the actresses playing them and the great scripts. Joss Whedon obviously knows how to write and direct female characters exceptionally well. These are the kind of writers that are needed when it comes to solo female superhero movies. Someone that understands women and can write them as compelling, interesting, and most importantly, relatable. It is when a character is written well that they reach their full potential. Like I said, I really enjoyed the way the female characters were portrayed in The Avengers, but that was a superhero team-up movie, not a solo outing for each respective character.

Now that I pretty much covered that. Here is six female characters from DC and Marvel Comics that I think would be great on the big screen:

--Wonder Woman--
She is like the "Rosie the Riveter" of comic books. You ask any girl if they know who Wonder Woman is, they would answer, yes. Wonder Woman is synonymous with strength, beauty, intelligence, confidence, and kicking all kinds of ass. She is an empowering icon for women everywhere. That fact that she hasn't had her own movie yet is beyond me. Actually, Wonder Woman got her own movie in the form of one DC's direct-to-video animated films. The movie was met with good response from fans and critics alike, but I'm talking about a live-action movie adaption here. Long before that, the character even found great success in the mid 70's when she got her own TV show, who was played by the beautiful Lynda Carter. Wonder Woman was even set to get another TV show in 2011, but was cancelled. There is obviously interest in bringing this character to the small screen. Warner Bros. needs to shift their interest into the capacity of a live-action feature film.

The character's origin is connected to Greek mythology. She was granted gifts(powers/attributes) by six Greek goddesses and was born and raised on the island of Themyscira, populated by Amazon residents. Princess Diana was trained to be a warrior for her people. Wonder Woman has foughten creatures and villains both related to Greek mythology and unrelated throughout her long history. I wanted to make the point of saying her origins being connected to Greek mythology because that is one of the many reasons I think the character would translate so well to film. Greek mythology is rich and full of memorable creatures, monsters, and gods. Even the architecture of Greece, both in ancient times and present day, is beautiful and awe-inspiring. Which is the reason it has been used throughout the history of cinema. Movie goers like to see a movie that takes them to another world: Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, Avatar, and more recently, Thor. Saying these movies performed very well at the box office would be a massive understatement.

People like movies that take them to fantasy worlds, places beyond their imagination. Themyscira would be one of those places. The ancient Greco-Roman architecture, scenery, fantasy/mystical elements(powers, creatures, Gods) being brought to life would be amazing to see. People would be drawn into Wonder Woman's world. This is something that sets her apart from other female superheroes. Steve Trevor crash landing on Themyscria shakes up Diana's world and leads to her venturing out far beyond her native land. The movie would presumably largely take place in America(East Coast) or Man's World as the Amazons refer to it. The idea of her learning our culture and customs in the real world would be interesting to see; it would be like a "fish out of water" concept. The character has rich, interesting mythos and pathos. I can confidently say, a Wonder Woman movie that is adapted well and sticks to the source material would fill seats. Both comic book fans, and general movie fans would pay money to go see a well adapted, big budget, action packed Wonder Woman movie.

Superman's cousin is Kara Zor-El/Linda Danvers aka Supergirl. Superman is one of the world's most recognized superheroes. He represents truth, justice, and the American way. Pitching a solo movie about someone from the Superman Family shouldn't be that hard. There was actually a Supergirl movie released in 1984 that I mentioned above; however, that movie was meet with bad reception. Helen Slater was a good choice for Supergirl, everything else was just plain bad. Throwing in a villain that isn't from the comics isn't a great start. Thankfully, the character had much better luck on the small screen; during the seventh season (2007-2008), the character was brought on the hit CW show, "Smallville." Where I felt she was adapted well. Kara/Supergirl was portrayed by Laura Vandervoort. I thought she was great in the role. And I wasn't the only one, Laura was only a series regular for the seventh season and came back to appear in more episodes in the three final seasons of 'Smallville.'

Kara had enough of a loyal fan base, that when she as written off the show in the very rushed manner she was, a large number of Smaville fans expressed how upset they were. The character has a lot of fans, and these very same fans would pay money to see Supergirl in a new solo adventure. One that respects the character, and does her justice. Supergirl has been in the comics almost as long as Superman. Supergirl was sent to Earth in a rocket ship, except instead of as an infant like Kal-El, she was a teenager. Kara never had the luxury of being raised on Earth as a child like her cousin, she had to learn about this strange world that was her new home without having been raised on it. That made her fitting in on Earth much more of challenge. Although she didn't get off to a great start, she eventually found her calling, her place here.

Inspired by her cousin, Supergirl became a force for good. Supergirl is a great hero in her own right; going on to become a member of the Legion of Super-Heroes and the Justice League. With release of Man of Steel next year, this would be a good time to give Kara her own movie. Set it in the Man of Steel movie universe(a modern take on Kryptonian mythology) and add some legitimacy to it by having Henry Cavill make a small cameo as Superman. That would have fans geeking out big time, and would draw in a huge crowd. The character has relatability written all over her. Not only has Supergirl earned her right to be a member of the 'Superman Family,' but to get another chance at her own solo movie. The character deserves a movie that truly shows us what The Girl of Steel can do.

--Black Canary--
Dinah Lance comes from a family of crime fighters. Her father was a police officer, while her mother was the original Black Canary who was a member of the Justice Society of America(the superhero team that started it all). This makes Dinah the second Black Canary. She is one of the greatest fighters in the DC Universe, and has a keen tactical mind. You think being trained in abound 14 different fighting styles is something, think again. In addition to her very impressive martial arts training, she has the power to emit ultrasonic sound waves from her vocal cords, which is appropriately referred to as the "Canary Cry." The ability is activated by her screaming. Her Canary Cry is strong enough to shatter metal, and cause a person's ears to bleed even if she's not directly targeting them. Dinah's means of transportation is her motorcycle. She is a member of Team Arrow, Birds of Prey and has been a member of every branch of the Justice League at one point in time or another. Like I said - she is one of the greatest fighters in the DC Universe.

Dinah is also the love interest of the Green Arrow. I have not heard anything about a Black Canary movie being worked on, but I've heard Warner Bros. is interested in doing a Green Arrow movie. Whether it's the Supermax movie or a whole new movie is yet to be known. When a Green Arrow movie is released, I'm hoping Black Canary will be featured in it because if the movie is well received, that would be a perfect opportunity for them to pen a script for a solo Black Canary movie. The character is no stranger to live-action TV shows. Dinah Lance/Black Canary has appeared on "Birds of Prey"(my apologies for mentioning this show), "Smallville" and counting her upcoming appearance on the CW's take on the Green Arrow, simply titled "Arrow." In 'Arrow', superpowers won't exist in the show's universe. If Katie Cassidy's Dinah Lance ever suits up as Black Canary, it will be sans Canary Cry. As much as that sucks, she'll still have her extensive martial arts training to use in her fight against crime.

On the small screen her Canary Cry was properly brought to life in 'Smallville.' For a production budget of a TV show, it was adapted well in my opinion. With the budget of a huge CBM, it would be that much better. Even though Black Canary is classified as metahuman, she isn't invulnerable, doesn't have super strength, can't run at superhuman speeds and she can't fly. The only superpower she has is her Canary Cry. That coupled with her martial arts training makes her a force to be reckoned with. Her lack of various powers doesn't hold her back from being a valuable asset to whatever team she is assisting. It actually motivates her to work that much harder. Black Canary enjoys a good fight, she is a brawler through and through, a fighter in a literal and figurative sense. On Team Arrow, she is considered the strongest of the group for a reason. Pitching a solo movie about a female martial artist superhero isn't hard. Throw in her Canary Cry and that fact she is a true bad ass(I mentioned she rides a motorcycle), makes it that much easier.

--Ms. Marvel--
A female Air Force fighter pilot turned ass kicking superheroine. That pretty much writes itself. I would have said "bad ass superheroine", but with Carol Danvers being an USAF pilot, that's already implied. What I think makes Carol Danvers' story so intriguing, is that she was a hero before she gained superhuman abilities. I believe characters in comics have always had the potential to be great. It's usually not until after a tragedy, an accident during a science experiment, or a supernatural occurrence that they realize this. Carol Danvers is someone that has dedicated herself to protecting her country; this is someone who risks their life to keep the United States of America's restricted airspace free of hostile forces. As an Air Force pilot, she prevents enemy aircrafts from launching attacks on the US and the millions of innocent civilians that call it home. This is a true patriot and hero in anybody's book.

She was promoted to the rank of Colonel upon resigning from the Air Force. Her career didn't stop there, in addition to being a former ace fighter pilot for the USAF, she went on to work for the CIA. After that, she was hired as the head security for NASA HQ. No doubt due to her incredible credentials. Working at NASA is where her life would change forever. One of her co-workers at NASA was secretly a Kree alien named Mar-Vell. After saving her life from a Kree Sentry robot that went berserk, which caused the press to dub him "Captain Marvel", the two became involved in a romantic relationship. An enemy of the Kree kidnapped Carol upon learning of their relationship to lure Captain Marvel into a trap. During the rescue, a malfunctioning Kree device exploded and Captain Marvel shielded Carol from the exposed radiation, inadvertently causing Carol to absorb some of Captain Marvel's Kree energy. After recovering from the incident, Carol learned she had gained superpowers. In honor of Captain Marvel, she based the design of her costume on his and became known as Ms. Marvel.

Not contempt with being in Captain Marvel's shadow, Carol set out to become a great superhero in her own right. Despite being a superhero, she is not perfect. Carol has had problems with alcoholism, something she has in common with her fellow Avenger, Iron Man. This is a character that struggles with her own personal issues, something that we could all relate too. We all have our own issues to deal with. This is something that makes someone who could fly without the use of a F-22 Raptor and could emit cosmic energy from their hands - more relatable. Although Ms. Marvel is largely earthbound, she is still an important part of the Marvel Cosmic Universe. With the slate of Marvel movies coming that look to explore the MCU more I can't think of a better time to bring Ms. Marvel on to the silver screen. Her solo movie could also serve as lead-in to Carol becoming the new team member in the The Avengers 2. The team needs more female members anyway, and another Avenger in the fight against Thanos(presumably) couldn't hurt.

--Black Widow--
Natasha Romanoff is a high ranking intelligence operative for S.H.I.E.L.D., carrying out covert(sometimes not so covert) operations under the codename "Black Widow." Natasha Romanoff is as beautiful as she is deadly. She is proficient in various forms of hand to hand combat, is an expert marksman, a talented computer hacker and is trained in the use of various explosives. That is only just a small amount of what you would see on her dossier. Black Widow has led S.H.I.E.L.D. and even The Avengers in certain missions. Black Widow does a lot of undercover work that has her infiltrating terrorist organizations where in she reports back to Nick Fury all of the vital intel she has gathered; she is an integral part of S.H.I.E.L.D. Before her stint with S.H.I.E.L.D., she worked for Russian intelligence, the KGB. She joined the KGB to further investigate the circumstances of her husband's death, who was reported to have been 'KIA'(killed in action).

The Avengers movie looks to takes ques from her retconned origin where she was enlisted into a covert ops training program as a child. This is very important to bring up because Scarlett Johansson herself has expressed interest in doing a solo Black Widow movie. That gives us an idea of what a spin off movie of Scarlett's Black Widow could possibly be like. I've even heard very recently that a script for a solo Black Widow movie has been completed. I think the movie would greatly benefit being an origin movie as opposed to taking place post-Avengers. When it comes to the greatest spies, Black Widow is among the best, which is saying a lot. For someone to be able to pull one over on The God of Mischief himself, that is a testament to how extraordinary she is despite not being superhuman. I'm sure people who are unfamiliar with her origins would thoroughly enjoy seeing how Natasha Romanoff became the Black Widow. The thing is, her own movie not only needs to be a great comic book movie, but also a great spy movie as well.

Spy movies have been entertaining us for the last fifty years. Thanks to Ian Fleming's hugely popular, suave secret agent known around the world, James Bond. After the less than stellar James Bond movies of the late 90's to early 2000's, the Jason Bourne series was there to pick up the slack. I think what makes these movies so popular is obviously not only the action and great characters, it's also their worlds. Well the world of espionage. This world is fascinating and intriguing because espionage is real, spies actually do exist in real life. That adds a little bit more fun to spy movies, because the idea of being swept into the world of espionage is exciting and isn't entirely impossible. If Marvel Studios could make Black Widow's world as engrossing as 007's or Jason Bourne's, the movie would be a sure fire hit. Black Widow is a fantastic and complex character. All Marvel Studios needs to do is make sure people are drawn into Black Widow's world of espionage.

There have been three different women to fight crime under the name of Spider-Woman in the mainstream Marvel Universe. I'm only talking about one here. I'm talking about the original Spider-Woman, Jessica Drew. When Jessica was a small child, her parent's property was surrounded by large amounts of uranium. After long-term exposure to it, she suffered radiation poisoning. In a bid to save her daughter's life, Johnathan Drew was forced to inject her with an untested serum(made with the blood of different spider species) to reverse the damage and immunize her body to the radiation. She didn't respond immediately to the serum, so her father then sealed her in a genetic accelerator to speed up her treatment. She was in stasis for decades as the cure worked at a slow rate. When she eventually awoke, she had no memories of her past and found herself alone in the world as her parents had mysteriously disappeared. Jessica also discovered she now possessed superhuman abilities.

There was something that always seemed interesting about Spider-Woman, but
I couldn't get into the character. Well, that was until I watched the "Spider-Woman: Agent of S.W.O.R.D." motion graphic novel. I didn't realize how human the character was. Also, Jessica doesn't mess around. In the motion comic she took on two Skrulls and the Thunderbolts team when she wasn't even at her 100% best. That's quite impressive. The story took place after the "Secret Invasion" crossover story arc in the comics, which saw the Skrull infiltrate Earth by posing as members of the superhuman community. The queen of the Skrulls disguised herself as Spider-Woman to infiltrate the ranks of The Avengers. After the Skrull Queen was killed and the rest of the Skrull armada was destroyed, Spider-Woman's return was not as well received as her other fellow heroes. It was the Skrull Queen who had orchestrated the entire invasion and as a result Spider-Woman's reputation was tarnished.

Feeling like a complete outcast due to the aftermath of the Skrull invasion, Jessica leaves the New Avengers and signs on with S.W.O.R.D. Spider-Woman has been through a lot in her history. Usually when characters in comics go through as much as she has, they end up becoming supervillains. Not Jessica Drew though, she has overcome insurmountable odds time and time again to stay on the straight and narrow, a true measure of her character. This is what makes Spider-Woman so great. I wouldn't only classify her as a hero archetype, but also an underdog archetype as well. A lot of people can personify with Jessica Drew because of this. Some of her various powers include secreting pheromones that affect people's emotions, projecting energy blasts(she can control as to whether it is powerful enough to stun or kill), and being immune to all forms of toxins, poisons and drugs. She also is now completely immune to radiation. That's not including her other superpowers who she shares in common with Spider-Man. Spider-Woman is an incredibly appealing character that would adapt well to the big screen.

These are femme fatales whose bad side it would be very unwise to be on. DC and Marvel Comics have a huge library of great female characters that are relatable, interesting, and have a rich fascinating mythology. Now that I've told you which characters I think would work well on the big screen, I'm getting to the final part of my article.

When I mentioned 'Why comic book companies are missing out on an important demographic' in the teaser, I wasn't merely speaking in a financial sense, but also a chance to have a positive impact on women. What I'm talking about exactly is putting female superheroes in the spotlight more often. Characters - whether they're superhuman or not - show that women can kick ass with the best of them. I'm not just speaking in the context of comics books, I'm speaking in terms of real life too.

Most female superheroes are respectable, strong, intelligent, confident, motivated and kick ass, both literally and figuratively. These characters put women in a positive light and send a great message. Superheroes in general are essentially what humankind can be at its best. Comic book movies shouldn't strictly be a boys club, it should be a girls club too. Female characters kicking ass empower women. And I think I speak for a lot of guys when I say this, we like it when girls are kicking ass. We find it bad ass and sexy. Actually, I think both men and and women share the same feelings here.

Girls that might want to give female superhero comics a chance might be turned off by seeing them in revealing costumes on their covers, which I could understand. They probably think that these characters are purely eye candy. Movies for these superheroines would show that they are the real deal; that they are much more than eye candy, which will result in winning back and interesting potential customers in a demographic I assume comic book companies struggle with. These companies making more money means: more comic book series, movies, TV shows, etc. This is a win-win situation for everybody.

I've used various forms of the word "relatable" quite a few times throughout my article. Some guys might be wondering how can they relate to female characters. Well, these characters deal with issues that not only pertain to women, but people in general. Whether you're a guy or girl, who hasn't ever felt lonely, lost, the odds are stacked against them, they can't be taken seriously? People have felt like this at one point in their life or another. These are human issues first. Everybody can relate to these things, which is important to people's viewing experience of these movies because female superheroes deal with these very same things.

I'm not the only guy on here who has been wanting to see female superheroes get there due on the big screen. I've been on here for almost two years, and I've seen many guys make comments that they too would think it would be great for female comic book characters to get their own movies. Both male and female comic book fans want movie studios to step up to the plate. There are big things going on with Marvel Studios as they look to expand their movie universe into the cosmic realm. And Warner Bros. is finally reattempting to move forward with a live-action Justice League and movies of their other superheroes. With all these exciting new movie projects to look forward to I don't want female superheroes to get lost in the shuffle; there is a lot good that can come from these movies. There is a bigger picture here. Female characters have a rightful place in comics and as such, have a rightful place in their own comic book movies.
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kong - 9/12/2012, 2:56 PM
If Black Canary is wearing the outfit she has on in the picture, then I'd most definitely watch that movie
xRelentlessx - 9/12/2012, 3:13 PM
Elektra deserves another go dammit! I plan on becoming a director and I sure as hell am gonna make an Elektra movie. She's not a PG-13 character. She's a dark and deep character. If she was popular enough to spawn her own comic book series, merchandise and movie (even if it was shit), then she deserves another chance on screen in her own film(s). Also, Black Widow movie please...NOW!
blite32 - 9/12/2012, 3:38 PM
If you look at how the female super heroes are dressed,that is the reason there are no movies about them.
xRelentlessx - 9/12/2012, 4:06 PM
@blite32 If you make their outfits more respectable while still keeping the character's essence, it can work. Hollywood has no excuses.
StealthPWNAGE - 9/12/2012, 4:43 PM
I really hope they make a Carol Danvers movie as Captain Marvel. Her new comics are great and empowering, and just as the new comics are a hit with men AND women, it can be so if they adapt it into a movie!

p.s. (I'm glad I'm not the only guy rooting for kick-ass, empowering female comic book movies.)
mgeoff88 - 9/12/2012, 4:49 PM
@RedHood Lol! I appreciate your honesty.

@xRelentlessx I never liked Jennifer Garner as Elektra. I agree! Elektra does deserve another chance on the big screen. Next time around, I think they should go with an unknown Greek actress that is perfect at playing dark characters. And very well said about the outfits.

@blite32 That's a part of the reason, but their costumes' can be tweaked to make them more practical and be taken seriously. Spider-Woman and Black Widow's costumes don't need to be changed. Like Wonder Woman, get rid of her star spangled short shorts and replace it with a Greek battle armor skirt.

Costumes can be altered, tweaked, changed. Look at Superman in MOS, I don't think any of us Superman fans ever thought we would see Superman in a movie without his trademark red briefs.
mgeoff88 - 9/12/2012, 5:08 PM
@StealthPWNAGE I read Captain Marvel#1 yesterday, and I thought it was great. When I was reading it, I was thinking the exact same thing!

You know, I think more guys root for these kinds of movies than they let on. They probably worry that if are more vocal about it, that their friends will give them a hard time, which is ridiculous.

There is nothing wrong with liking or believing in something. If people want to be close minded and give you crap for it, then that is their problem, not yours.
blite32 - 9/12/2012, 6:45 PM
@mgeoff, I was just kidding around, we all want to see these movies happen and I assure they will
Tainted87 - 9/12/2012, 7:29 PM
Where is this generation's Susan Sarandon, Cher, Geena Davis, Michelle Yeoh, Pam Grier, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver?

Younger actresses, for the most part, lack personality on screen. They look beautiful, spout off some contrived one-liners, and then go back to playing the role of girlfriend - it's a cycle.

Four directors exist with the balls to recreate the superheroine movie, and more than likely, they can't be bothered.

Tainted87 - 9/12/2012, 7:58 PM
No you're still cool, cipher :)
mgeoff88 - 9/12/2012, 9:44 PM
@blite32 Oh ok, lol, no problem. I know they will be made someday. I just wish it was sooner rather than later though.

I know WW won't get a solo movie until after JL is released in 2015. Black Widow getting her own movie soon is highly possible. And even a Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel movie could happen soon as well.

@Tainted87 I kind of know what you mean. With some actresses there is still a stigma with CBMs. They won't audition for a role in a superhero movie. More and more though, actors and actresses you would never expect to see in a CBM are throwing their hat in the ring.

I would love to see Joss Whedon helm a solo Black Widow movie. :)

@cipher Thanks a lot, bro. And no, you don't lose any cred. And your huge crush on Helen Slater is understandable. :)

When I was kid, I watched the Alien and Terminator movies; that was my first exposure to ass kicking female characters. I also do remember watching Supergirl and episodes of WW. Then when I became a teenager, it was Jill Valentine and Lara Croft. Those characters made me a fan of strong female characters for life.

Same here, I'm pretty sure I've played all The Tomb Raider games. Lol, when I was teenager what drew me to the games that she was hot and they were also fun. But as I got older I started to appreciate the character for more than her looks. Just like you, I became really fascinated with the character.

Lara Croft > Nathan Drake

It is really frustrating that Hollywood is dragging their feet when it comes to solo female superhero movies. You're right! These characters do have a lot of potential! All their movies need is the right directors and screenwriters. These characters are great; adapting them to the big screen should be easy.
mgeoff88 - 9/13/2012, 4:18 AM
@jpfola26 Thanks, I'm glad you liked it so much. Characters like Black Canary and Supergirl are part of teams or families, but they can stand on their own in solo movies IMO. And being connected to A-List DC characters would help at the box office.

I would have no problem with a Witchblade movie at all. It doesn't just have to be DC or Marvel doing female superhero movies.

Other characters that I think would work well in solo outings is Zatanna, Mockingbird, and Psylocke(female ninja/superheroine). They are their own characters.
dezdigi - 9/13/2012, 7:52 AM
Ok, didn't read the part on every character but I read the parts on WW and Mrs. Marvel. I agree about bringing them to the big screen as it breaks convention, setting an example for women.

As for the topic of why studios are hesitant to invest in a female-centric film, I don't know for sure. I wish you would have discussed this more. The Alien movies were mostly successful with a female lead, as was Kill Bill. There are some commonalities here-good writing and directing. Maybe that's the key to success and why films like the Resident Evil and Underworld franchises are not well received.
RexBlazer1 - 9/13/2012, 6:04 PM
I'd like to see them try and adapt She-Hulk. Maybe introduce her as Jennifer Walters in a future Hulk flick (hopefully with Ruffalo reprising his role) and build her character to the point where she would be strong enough to break free of her cousin's shadow and do her own movie as a good spin off.
mgeoff88 - 9/13/2012, 6:54 PM
@dezdigi That's cool. The sections about the six female superheroes is the biggest part of the of article. Not everyone is a DC or Marvel fan, so they could choose whichever character they want to read about. The most important sections of the article is the first and last.

Those movies had great female leads and everything else was up to par. You know, the movies were great all around. The RE and Underworld movie franchises are popcorn films. All style no substance. To be honest, I enjoyed the first two Underworld films. I really hate what Paul W.S. Anderson did to the RE movie franchise though.

@RexBlazer1 I heard Nic Cage supposedly wanted to direct a She-Hulk movie a bit back. Lol, I'm glad it was never greenlighted with him at the helm.

I would like to see a She-Hulk movie too. The character is harder to adapt, because in the comics she is promiscuous. If the screenwriter throws that in audiences faces to fill seats, then the movie would suffer as result; the movie wouldn't reach the character's full potential. That sounds like a great idea! I would really like to see something like that happen. :)

Hell Yeah! Mark Ruffalo has to come back as Bruce Banner/The Hulk. If he didn't, that would be a huge mistake on Marvel Studios' part!
RexBlazer1 - 9/13/2012, 7:47 PM
Glad someone agrees with me.
JULEZ13 - 9/13/2012, 8:18 PM
@mgeoff88: Thanks for the shoutout, man! I'm happy to help!

She-Hulk being promiscuous?! That would actually HELP the film if done right. That actually sounds very interesting. So far most of the super heroines that we got are all morally accepted. It seems as though film studios are hesitant to make female characters more promiscuous because they're afraid of how the public will perceive them. But its the 21st century, there are a shit ton of women being promiscuous and whoring around, whether I agree with that lifestyle choice or not it will be more "real world" instead of trying to set an example for young women.

Like I feel no studio would make an intro of a female character the same way they introduced Tony Stark; having a one night stand with the reporter and all... but women do this all the time... lots of women do. (Me not included, lol)

But if that movie would ever be done I think she would have to cameo in a Hulk movie (and yes Rufallo better frickin return! He was great!).

Same thing goes with Hawkgirl and Supergirl.

@cipher: Thanks!

I agree with you on the Supergirl films. As a little girl growing up of course they had the Reeve Superman films on TV all the time, and the cartoons so I always loved Superman and wanted his powers. I mean, who DOESN'T wanna be Superman! Then the Supergirl movie came out on tv and I thought it was the coolest thing since Superman!

I remember one Halloween I was Supergirl, and I ran around with my arms extended acting like I was flying. (I was like 6.) Of course I wasn't blonde, but whatever! I figured Superman had black hair and was sometimes tan in comics so I could be a tan, black-haired Supergirl! lol

Before reading your comment I thought, ehhh, that type of movie wouldn't work now. But as you said with the right team and the right appearance in a Superman film, Supergirl can definitely hold her own in a film. And like she did with me when I was a kid, she can give all the little girls a superhero to aspire to just like boys have Supes, Bats, Iron Man, CA, etc. That film probably even gave me the inspiration to get into superheroes because I did have a female character to admire.

Now that I'm older I almost completely forgot about that... So thanks for sparking up some memories! lol

A Black Widow film.... I would love to see more of her backstory, but I just can't believe ScarJo growing up in Romania and NOT having the accent. It would just feel so fake. But I think it has A LOT of potential. If one film can open up a super heroine film genre it could definitely be BW just because she has already been established!

Of course I think its WW's job to do this and I feel she is the perfect one with the most potential to do so but since WB is so slow in getting out their films and seem lost all the time, I don't see that happening any time soon. Especially since she's due AFTER the JL - whenever that is released - so I think we'll be waiting on a WW solo flick for a very long time.

@mgeoff88: Sorry for arriving late, bro. Like I said, I was extremely busy last night. I should be doing some work now actually but as usual, CBM is the ultimate procrastination tool! lol
JULEZ13 - 9/13/2012, 8:19 PM
F*****CK!!! Sorry for the long ass comment! lol
mgeoff88 - 9/14/2012, 5:18 AM
@JULEZ LOL! Don't worry about the long ass comment. And I should be apologizing about the long ass article. ;P

That's what the comment section is for. I text a lot and I do huge ass texts lol. I'm not saying they should make She-Hulk less promiscuous, I'm just saying I don't want them to over do it. That's actually a great point. She's not as polished as the other characters mentioned here.

Lol! Some women are for one night stands and others not so much. That would be on hell of a way to open a She-Hulk movie. That's not what I would want to see, but to each his own. Yah, that's a good way to introduce Supergirl. I wouldn't say no to a solo Hawkgirl movie either.

Black Widow is actually from Russia. In The Avengers, I was happy that Scarlett spoke Russian(authenticity and I love Russian accents *swoons* lol). Well, someone on here explained Spec Ops agents are trained to not speak with an accent in order to protect their cover, which makes a lot of sense. From seeing her speak Russian in The Avengers, maybe she could do that for a whole movie.

We should have had a WW movie by now! And the fact we won't get one until after Justice League is released in 2015 is frustrating to say the least.

Seriously it's cool, I thought you might have forgot about the article or something. Lol, if you want to talk about procrastinating, I'm your guy.

No problem! You deserve the shout out! You helped a lot! Everyone deserves a what what from their peeps from time to time. :P
JULEZ13 - 9/14/2012, 8:11 AM
@ mgeoff88: I always write long ass texts too! Especially now that I have an iPhone, there's no limit!! I always have to remember to restrain myself lol.

I agree with you, I don't want them to make She-Hulk into a complete whore . . . A lot of people still hate whores so that would hurt her fan base, but just make her as a woman who likes to have "fun" - as people say these days. I'd be okay with that.

I wouldn't want them to give her a completely similar intro like in IM1 though, that might be a bit extreme, but somewhere along those lines I'd be okay with.

I thought she was from Russia! I was just out of it yesterday. I had a full night of sleep last night and I'm still out of it! All nighters suck!

But I forgot about her hiding her accent... I guess in that case I'm all for her having a solo movie, it'll be like a female, Russian James Bond type of thing! As long as they explain her hiding her accent, I'm 100% in. I think it'll be a great film.

WW seriously needs to get her own movie. If BW can be accepted by fans, then WW shouldn't be an issue! Everyone loved the Lynda Carter TV series (I remember my mom watching the reruns all the time on the Spanish channels when I was a kid! She loved that show! lol).

Actually, if it weren't for it being on a Spanish channel and my mom watching the dubbed version I would know very little of that show AND WW in general.

Case in point: EVERYONE would watch that movie out of pure curiosity! Look at GL; lots of people didn't really know who he was but they still came out in droves to watch that movie and it was GOD AWFUL!!!

WW would be a big hit and if done right it could be right up there in top grossing films list.

Oh and I would never forget about the article! I have a bad memory but not THAT bad lol.
RexBlazer1 - 9/14/2012, 8:58 AM
@ JULEZ13 & mgoeff88, when I said that I'd like a She-Hulk movie, I wasn't really thinking about her sex-life, it was more about the fact that she's her own character and not a rip-off of her raging cousin. I think that if they balanced her sex-life with her character development like they did in the comics, then the movie would be gold.
JULEZ13 - 9/14/2012, 12:21 PM
@ RexBlazer1: Well of course the movie wouldn't be all about her sex life - that would just fail miserably - but it should be shown to show her character.

I agree with you, develop her character, differentiate her from her cousin and it could in fact be gold!

Almost any successful comic book could be gold on screen if handled correctly, especially these days of the CBM ERA.
mgeoff88 - 9/14/2012, 9:17 PM
@JULEZ Ha ha, same here. I have to like put on the brakes when it comes to making big texts. :P

Yah, making She-Hulk like that wouldn't work. I know girls wouldn't be too happy if it was that extreme.
Like I said, that would be one hell of a way to open a She-Hulk movie.

Yikes, an all nighter? That sucks. A solo Black Widow movie would kick ass! She's pretty much a female James Bond. I hope Marvel Studios is interested in giving her a solo movie. I don't want them to forget about her.

WW is the most popular female superhero in the world! It's still hard for me to believe she hasn't gotten her own big screen movie yet. I don't get it! Lol, I remember seeing some episodes here and there. Lynda Carter was great.

A WW movie would do exceptionally well at the box office. The character has a lot going for her! You're right about GL; that movie was beyond bad, but people still did pay to watch it! I agree! I think WW has the potential to be a massive hit, if done right.

Lol! Sometimes I have such an incredible memory, but other times I don't. Staying up too late is to blame. I was thinking I was so quiet about the upcoming publish date, that you figured I chickened out in posting it up lol. I just wanted to make sure. Well, thanks for not forgetting! :)

@RexBlazer1 I completely agree!
JULEZ13 - 9/15/2012, 8:26 AM
@mgeoff: Marvel has had the balls to make all these solo films of superheroes most people never heard of, they better not p*ssy out now at making a solo female hero movie. It'll benefit them anyway cuz then they'll really be the first studio to have successfully done everything in the CBM world. All we fans haven't gotten yet is a good CBM with a female lead.

WB is very behind. And its a shame. I blame the people making the decisions. We can't say that they don't include the DC guys in development cuz a lot of them were behind the scenes for GL and look how that turned out!

Their problem is that they put all their eggs in one basket, for example The New 52, most decisions were made by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee and most people don't like the new comics other than a couple. They give them too much power and I believe that's what's going on right now at WB. Instead of getting a group of people who know how to make a successful CBM - like Disney/Marvel - they have one guy making all his decisions based on his "bright" ideas.

I'd love to see a WW movie, but right now I thin WB need to see that a female lead film would work and that means we'll need a BW film.

We'll all win in the end since we get to watch all our favorite heroes come to life but its just frustrating at how backwards these movies are.

Iron Man and Thor having SEQUELS out BEFORE one decent, modern Superman film is successful! The Avengers out before JL?! Batman being the most popular superhero in the world? Who would've ever thought this would happen? smh
RexBlazer1 - 9/15/2012, 9:05 AM
@JULEZ13: Speaking of The New 52, I'll admit, I wasn't very thrilled about it when they first announced it. It upsets me that DC can't keep a straight story like Marvel does.

I like some of the new costumes, but some of the character changes leave a lot to be desired in my opinion. Like what they did with Starfire, they turned her into super-powered eye candy that will sleep with anyone and can easily forget something, and, in a way, that makes her seem a bit unlikeable. If it were up to me, and I know it isn't, she would have a better personality and be back together with Dick Grayson and they would have their daughter from Kingdom Come, Mar'i Grayson aka Nightstar.

I mean, they've already got Damian Wayne (who in Kingdom Come was called Ibn Al Xu'ffasch (Son of the Bat)) why not bring in his girlfriend from that universe?

Also, I'd pair Batman with WW, because thanks to the Justice League cartoon, I'm in love with that pairing. I don't really like the whole "Supes should be with WW because they have superpowers" thing. I just don't feel it.

DC should stop doing the whole revamp thing and just do a next generation thing and establish an unchanging continuity.

Sorry for my long ass comment, I just had something to say.
JULEZ13 - 9/16/2012, 3:07 PM
@RexBlazer1: I agree with you on the New 52, I haven't read any of that... They did that to Starfire?! WTF! They ruined her! She was such a good girl on Teen Titans!!!

But she shouldn't be with Dick Grayson, he's property of Barbara Gordon... They are destined to be together like Superman and Lois... Which leads me to me agreeing with you that the Superman/WW pairing is completely stupid! It's literally just for sales!

WW being with Batman though, I don't know. I believe there was a comic where they actually were together but it didn't work out since they were so different. WW needs a super-powered hubby, but not Superman, she isn't even his type! Either she goes out with an already established, lesser known hero or just create one from scratch cuz she's lonely! lol

Oh, and I don't see WW with Batman because he already has 2 baby mommas, WW is pretty traditional and Batman is a playa, I don't see that working out lol.

But DC should seriously stop restarting their comic book universe every 5 freakin years! -_-
RexBlazer1 - 9/16/2012, 4:19 PM
@JULEZ13: Thanks for agreeing with me on some of my points, and I understand that nobody will comepletely agree with me on everything.

I know that Batman has a kid with Talia Al Ghul (Damian Wayne), but who's the second one that you're refering to?

By the way, from what I've heard, they currently have Starfire sleeping with Red Hood aka Jason Todd in "Red Hood and the Outlaws" though Starfire says this relationship is purely sexual. And she also apparently doesn't remember being a Teen Titan member.

Yeah, DC needs to at least TRY to make a universe that doesn't change on a WHOLE level. If it was me, I'd just have those changes be more gradual and be told in a way that makes sense. Changing everything from scratch all at once is lazy and stupid as far as I'm concerned. Marvel at least has continuity.

As far as pairings, I guess we all have our preferences. I agree that Superman belongs with Lois, but the others, one can only hope. Right?
JULEZ13 - 9/20/2012, 2:26 PM
@RexBlazer1: Batman also had a child with Catwoman, a daughter who was a lesbian and became the new Batgirl... I don't know if that stayed in continuity though.

Well it looks like Marvel is messing up their continuity now with that Marvel NOW! crap.

Oh, Starfire's with Jason Todd? Well I'm okay with that. As long as it isn't Dick Grayson. I never looked at Grayson to grow up being a playboy like Bruce.
RexBlazer1 - 9/20/2012, 6:27 PM
@JULEZ13: The only daughter I knew about Batman having with Catwoman was Helena Wayne aka Huntress of Earth-2.

I haven't really read the Marvel NOW! stuff yet, and I don't know what the changes are or will be.

Well, everyone has their own opinion, but I'm not really cool with Starfire being with Jason Todd. To me, it just doesn't feel right. And since she said that her relationship with him is purely sexual and nothing more, I wouldn't exactly say they're "together" together, more like she considers him to be a guy who helps her get off when she's in a mood.

To each their own, but I like the whole Grayson and Starfire thing. We have preferences and we'll just leave it at that.

BTW, could you and mgeoff88 comment on my "Connecting the Dots" editorial, please? It's my first article and I don't have a lot of comments on it.
mgeoff88 - 9/21/2012, 2:35 AM
Oh wow, I didn't realize you guys were still commenting on here.

@JULEZ It's both DC and Marvel who need to grow a pair. It's a shame that we won't even see WW film until after 2015.

Unless, Warner Bros. gets some sense and releases a solo WW movie before Justice League. I even heard a rumor that the actor and actresses used in the JL film will be different from the ones in solo movies i.e. Henry Cavill may not be in JL. That is such a [frick]ing huge mistake!!!

Warner Bros. really needs to get on the ball. I really hope Marvel plans to move forward with a solo BW movie. They need to strike while the iron is hot! The Avengers is still fresh in everyone's minds.

@RexBlazer1 Yah, sure, bro. I'll check it out right now. :)

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