EDITORIAL: Making The More Amazing Spider-Man Sequel - 6 Things That Have to Be Done

EDITORIAL: Making The More Amazing Spider-Man Sequel - 6 Things That Have to Be Done

Marc Webb did a decent job bringing Spider-Man back. It was, however, riddled with problems of its own despite fixing mistakes from past incarnations. Here are 6 things that I think can be done to improve this series. Check it out!

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By GoodGuy - 1/29/2013
2012's release of "The Amazing Spider-Man" marked the beginning of a new Spider-Man cannon. Despite the unfavourable fact that it was released too soon, the reboot's possible blessing was the clean slate it had provided. It was a chance to breathe new life into the character - a chance to improve upon whatever shortcomings the previous franchise may have had. This film was supposed to kick start the new series with a bang but sadly, that is what it failed to do.

The new Spider-Man film was not a bad movie by any means - at least not in my opinion as I did enjoy it. While it never truly ventured into bad or terrible, it surely failed to impress or break new ground. Granted, no movie is perfect, but while they did improve upon some of Sam Raimi's mistakes; they made some faults of their own, and they can be quite the problem. With the sequel filming in a few weeks, I deemed it appropriate to list possible changes that may be beneficial in making the more "Amazing" Spider-Man film.





1. A stronger and more mature Gwen and Peter relationship
Marc Webb surely didn't fail in giving the audience an endearing teenage relationship between Peter and Gwen Stacy. The dynamic between the two was well directed and had a very natural feel to it that it almost accurately captures real high school love. It was very innocent and bubblegum-y, much like how young love should be.

However, while we did get the idea that the two were somewhat COMPATIBLE, I didn't get the idea that their relationship may be able to withstand hardships. A teenage romance, as most people would say, is rarely the basis of a long lasting relationship. Teenagers are often criticized for their fleeting sense of love that is mostly result of physical attraction. What we got in the movie, as I said earlier, was almost like that - a typical teenage romance.

I'd like to see the two go through a more mature relationship with difficulties and struggles. But I also do want to see them face those problems together. I think that it's high time that they upgrade their relationship from puppy love to true love, or else that is what it will forever be treated as: a short lived teen romance.



2. A different and developed Peter Parker
Much to the dismay of many fans, we did get a different Peter Parker than the one we saw in the Raimi trilogy. This portrayal was a departure from the amiable and kind-hearted P.P. that we all know and love, and was instead an edgy and flawed teenager. And guess what? He stayed that way for most of the movie. Even at the end, after all the hell and life change that the character went through, Peter was frustratingly similar to how he was in the beginning. Although, I did try to justify the portrayal of the character on numerous occasions, I do admit that it was out of bias then, as it is now.

You could argue that Peter acted impulsively and carelessly because that is similar to how a teenager would act in this day and age. While that may be true, those aren't exactly the traits we'd want out of our hero and they often can take away from the sympathetic appeal of the character - one which is crucial in capturing the essence of Spider-Man. After the numerous humbling events that transpired in his life in the first movie, It's almost compulsory that Peter changes in such a way that he is more mature and good natured.

Thankfully, there are implications at the end of the film that (sort of?) reveal that Peter understands his calling and he is getting his act together. I did see Peter develop somewhat in TASM and I don't think any of it should be forgone. Especially since so many people say that the "those are the best kinds line" negated a lot of Peter's development in the first movie, I think that it is even more imperative that they show the character's maturation even if it has to happen between the lines of the first and second movie.

Oh and Peter... Lighten up damn it.







3. Better Action
Spider-Man is surely one of those characters whom you can use to deliver some of the best action sequences ever. His graceful acrobatics, formidable athleticism, and unique abilities are key ingredients in the concoction of breathtaking fight scenes. Couple that with a visually interesting villain and you have one hell of a fight scene.

Sadly, this is a department Marc Webb didn't deliver too well in. The subway fight, though funny, was incomprehensible; the sewer fight may have been nifty, but it was also really short and nothing truly happened; the Oscorp Tower fight was supposed to be a grand finale, but it ended up being disappointing. The most noteworthy fights, in my opinion, were already the very short-lived Spidey vs Swat scene and the high school fight scene - and even those weren't anything special. Fortunately, though lacking, the webslinging was a lot fun to watch.

What I've always liked about Raimi's Spider-Man film franchise was the fight scenes. They always flowed smoothly and often took place in multi-leveled environments. Each combatant in the fight scenes would always have the chance to showcase his skill set and depending on the circumstances they are placed in, one will be better adapted and that person will get the better of the other. If I am not conveying my message well enough, watch the bank and train fight scenes from Spider-Man 2. Doc Ock and Spidey try and constantly use their abilities to one up another in an exchange of blows - all while taking the fight around town.

Also, a little fist fight between the hero and villain never hurts anyone...Go ask the Superman fans.



4. Aunt May
Marc Webb went a different direction and introduced Peter Parker's parents as people whose missing status have had ramifications on their child. With that in mind, I was hoping that Peter would regard Aunt May and Uncle Ben as his important mother and father figures who filled the parental void that his actual parents created . Even better, I was hoping that after Ben's death, Peter would recognize the need to take care of his vulnerable Aunt considering that they were the only kin left. That, unfortunately, didn't happen. Instead, we got a sort of emotional disconnect between the two.

Aunt May should be more than an obligatory cameo. In the comics and Raimi series, Aunt May served the very important role of Spider-Man's moral compass through appealing to Peter. She would (though unknowingly) be the one who directly influenced Spider-Man's decisions. Though the new franchise doesn't need to follow this formula, Aunt May shouldn't just be the person who owns the house Peter comes home to. She is one of Spider-Man's most crucial driving forces. Besides, Sally Field gave a great performance, why not use her more?



5. Peter Parker not living in the past
The Amazing Spider-Man ended without tying up loose ends neatly. The audience (and Peter for that matter) never really gets closure a few dropped subplots. Not only did finding Uncle Ben's killer seem essentially unimportant halfway through the film, they also dropped the parents subplot -which was built up to be the constitution of "The Untold Story" - with the intentions of carrying the story over to the sequel. The failure to act on these unfinished storylines may have consequences on the next film and if it does, it's sure to be annoying.

We can't have Peter looking for his Uncle's killer again to get closure from the first film; his mission was apparently changed when the Lizard and Captain Stacy came along. To have him return on a manhunt in the name of vengeance would not only make it seem as if Peter cannot cope or move on from grief, but it also won't hold the same emotional weight considering the death of Uncle Ben happened a movie before. It would also be better if Peter didn't fret about not finding the truth about his parents to the same degree that he did in the first film. By the end of the film, Peter Parker is mostly a self-made man who had discovered his purpose on his own. This realization can be undone if he has another crisis of where he comes from.

And by not living in the past, I also mean that we shouldn't keep Peter Parker in high school anymore! There seems to be a prevalent thought among certain people that we should keep our heroes in adolescence. This idea may be attributed as the reason as to why Spider-Man's continuity in the comics had to be undone by Brand New Day even when good storylines were being released, and it may also account for putting Peter Parker back in high school in this new franchise of films. I want to see the character evolve. We can't keep having Spider-Man back in high school. Though there are certainly other great high school stories to be explored, Peter Parker can't be limited to a relatively short range of experience. He needs to explore the real world and see what life is about and quite frankly, high school won't be able to provide that. Being a high school student all throughout would limit the potential for development into a man and it's retreading old ground that we've seen in Raimi's films and numerous other adaptations of the character

6. LESS INTERRUPTION FROM SONY
Though I do think Marc Webb should own up to and correct the numerous mistakes he has made, there are a few things that he shouldn't really be blamed for in the first place. Do you still remember the mess that was Spider-Man 3? I'm pretty sure most of you recognize that the whole rushed Venom shenanigan was a result of Sony hastily delivering fan service - in effect, jeopardizing the movie. Sam Raimi is a good director and I don't think he should be put to charge for something that he didn't even do. The same can be said about Marc Webb.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable, but is it really too much to ask that they trust the director that they chose? The director is in charge for what happens in the film and therefore, if the suits at Sony do something to endanger the movie like cutting a huge sub plot, the weight is going to be on Marc Webb's shoulders.

All signs point toward the Sony executives making the decision to cut the "Untold Story" portion of the film. When creative conflict like that occurs, it can often mess up the movie. Though you could say that the people at Sony know what's better, such decisions could hold Marc Webb back form potentially creating a truly "amazing" Spider-Man sequel






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superherofan21 - 1/29/2013, 1:27 PM
I agree fully with that last one. Sony cut out SO many things from TASM. If they had been less involved, TASM would be an even better film than it already is.
EdgyOutsider - 1/29/2013, 1:34 PM
I know the perfect way to improve TASM 2. Don't use shit villains like Electro and Rhino. I'm glad they're changing his character but he is still a shit villain.
EdgyOutsider - 1/29/2013, 2:16 PM
@ImTheGoodGuy: Also, I want to add that I disagree with you on the fights somewhat. I personally feel that the fight in the high school is the best Spider-Man fight out of the entire film franchise.
GoodGuy - 1/29/2013, 2:26 PM
@Lizard1

Oh ok. It's all personal preference anyway. It was a good fight, definitely, just not one that made an impact in my opinion.

To me, the Lizard and Spidey fights seemed as if they were simply trying to "repel" one another, not even fight. In the Raimi series, I felt like the two fighers toughed it out in an ever changing environment. Their distinct abilities would determine whether or not they would outdo the other based on the situation. I just had more fun that way.

To their huge credit, they surely did well in making him move like an acrobat. Oh and that scene where he made a web cocoon for the lizard was a brilliant way to show his abilities.

FirstAvenger - 1/29/2013, 2:31 PM
The editing was terrible. If the make aunt may someone we cared about then they'll be ok. Just STAY AWAY SONY!
GoodGuy - 1/29/2013, 2:38 PM
@LEVITIKUZ

Sorry but I'm a bit confused. If Sony is pulling the strings, then doesn't that mean that they are manipulating it their way instead of giving creative freedom to the director? And how do A-List actors prevent the suits from making these dangerous decisions?

Regardless, yes Spider-Man should go back to Marvel but when this series ends, Sony will reboot this again to keep the rights to the character :P
EdgyOutsider - 1/29/2013, 2:46 PM
@Levi: I kept that clocktower/train fight in mind. But, for as much as I like the movie and the fight and I agree it deserves the positive reception it got. I don't think it's as good as many make it out to be. Personally (completely unbiased), I prefer as I said before, The Amazing Spider-Man. Sure, it wasn't as strong on the story front of things and the villain wasn't as engaging as Willem Dafoes Green Goblin. It did overall surpass the original trilogy (which I still very much love) on every other level. Spidey 2's Doc Ock is over rated if you ask me. I felt more sympathy for Norman, Eddie, Flint Marko and Dr.Connors than I did for Doc Ock. He was a good physical challenge for Spider-Man but I don't feel he helped move the story (the same can be said for, The Lizard) nor do I think he had much of an impact.
SAT - 1/29/2013, 3:02 PM
I agree with all your points, the fights felt a bit like something my friends and I would do when we younger, thought that hall way fight was well, AMAZING lol. The train scene in Spidey 2 was really awesome, I miss that awesomeness. I Pray the sequel is better! Excited for it! I think the sequel WILL be better, bcuz u know hope burns bright!
Spideyguy94 - 1/29/2013, 3:08 PM
Before this series closes out I want to see venom done right. I think they should have a full movie with spidey in the black costume and the next one be venom fully, maybe even split it into 2 movies released a year apart.
Spideyguy94 - 1/29/2013, 3:08 PM
@LEVITIKUZ You're saying what a movie is going to be like before its even out. We knew that Gwen was going to die the second we knew Emma stone was playing her and dragging it past 3 movies is going to kill the anticipation for it. The sad thing about Gwen is that in nearly all interpretations she's ultimately a doomed character no matter what. But that doesn't mean that the second one is going to be completely superfluous. it's not like its going to be the whole movie. If anything it will lay the foundations with Peter and Norman Osborn
Jollem - 1/29/2013, 4:04 PM
tasm was fantastic. one of the best cbms. sequel should be awesomer
GoodGuy - 1/29/2013, 5:19 PM
@teabag

Thank you , tea, for the compliments and the.... hmmmm... well... you know...

:P


ToTheManInTheColdSweat - 1/29/2013, 6:24 PM
and
7) fire marc webb. I don't think he knows what he is doing.

^_^
MrDonut - 1/29/2013, 6:27 PM
You've got a lot of good points, but Im not hopeful for the sequel, only things thats got my interest Jaime Fox, but the fact they're forcing the 'sympathetic villain' thing is just meh; it works for certain characters, but Electro is an asshole through and through...
EdgyOutsider - 1/29/2013, 7:13 PM
@MrDonut: Electro can't be an asshole if he has no depth to him.
Spideyguy94 - 1/30/2013, 2:32 AM
@ToTheManInTheColdSweat I don't know if you know this but Marc Webb doesn't write or edit the movies. TASM Is quite clearly a cut down movie, and if your going to blame anyone for that blame Sony. To blame him completely is stupid, considering we all know that Sony is too hands on for these movies. From a directing standpoint it's well shot and the acting is good.
Tainted87 - 1/30/2013, 9:44 AM
Here's the dilemma, and I detailed this point in one of my earlier articles on this site...

Spider-man is a scientist. That means his archenemy is going to be either a hulking mass of muscle or... a scientist. It's why you've got Venom and Green Goblin among his BIG ones, and it is EXACTLY why people were so excited about Venom way back in the day. Then of course, Eric Foreman was cast.

I look at Electro and Rhino as a plus, simply because there's a chance to inject something new to the formula. Something we haven't seen before, that might actually get us all on the Spider-man reboot bandwagon.

You bring up good points, especially of Peter NEEDING to be more mature in the sequel. I'm among the percentage that felt Peter was an inch away from being a psychotic stalker/killer who only felt like experimenting with the superhero business. He needs motivation beyond "I made him". He needs to want to help people for the reasons Uncle Ben gave.

I'm wondering, hoping rather, that the Vulture will be the man with the hat, and that he'll be trying to take over Oscorp.

@Soto
I love you, man.
GoodGuy - 1/30/2013, 11:16 AM
@Tainted87

During his run in The Amazing Spider-Man comics, J Michael Straczynski wrote a story-line that accounted for the similarity between Spider-Man and his enemies. Though it was more supernatural and somewhat contrived, it was an interesting point of view nonetheless. Your theory or explanation of the "shared origin" does, in fact, make more sense. Spider-Man is dealing with villains in his field of work. Because they are in his field of work, and because he has the power to do something, it is his responsibility to deal with them. Good explanation, Tainted

@SotoJuiceMan

Yes is do totally agree with you and Tainted on this one. IT's critical that they give the audience something different like Electro and Rhino because that's one way of justifying its existence in the first place - giving something unlike what we've seen in the previous series.

As for the lame part, I think that as long as it's under the care of a good chef, even canned prunes can be appetizing.


DrDoom - 1/30/2013, 12:50 PM
Very well written article, with logical and developed points.

Good job.
GoodGuy - 1/30/2013, 1:19 PM
@AcidicHeart
@TheWallCrawlingMenace

Thank you both of you. It means a lot.
ThunderKat - 1/30/2013, 2:35 PM
Good editorial and points.

However, it was not an interesting movie. The character had very little charm. They (definitely) look too old to be teens. No "with great power...!" Uncle Ben's death and the death of Peter's parents seemed to be events without traumatic impact nor inspiration to Peter.

The Lizard: I'm a broken record on this one. Not only did he lack in depth, he looked ridiculous. He never commanded any reptiles (as he would have done in Florida).

My beef with both versions of Spidey: offering some level of redemption because the villain dies before his own end. They've both framed their villains as wanting redemption. There is a point that redemption is not available. You cannot maim and kill people, and destroy property to the extent they do and then receive some level of forgiveness.
soda9 - 1/30/2013, 5:35 PM
I do have to agree with you on this. Nice editorial.

I'm sure all these will end up happening since we have the origin out of the way and it's seems that Peter has matured at the end.

Marc Webb even said there will be more action. He's learned from his flaws and he's ready to deliver a kick ass sequel!
GoodGuy - 1/31/2013, 9:19 AM
@sosthetruth

If you or anyone else is seeing this comment, then please go check this out. It's pretty cool.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Marc-Webb-Isn-t-Making-Sequel-He-Mapping-Out-Massive-Spider-Man-Universe-35385-p1.html


Basically, it's an article showing evidence that Marc Webb is planning out a sinister six plot. Though it may be of pure coincidence rather than actual planning, Marc Webb tweeted in response to it indicating that he's interested in something like that. This is what he had to say about creating a big Spider-Man universe: "Think Bigger"

Pretty interesting huh?

Though he may not actually be the epic director who can pull of the sinister six, it's certainly a cool idea either way
DrDoom - 2/2/2013, 5:27 PM
@imadick

Oh, I never changed my relatively unfavourable opinion of TASM. However, I can still appreciate a well-written and articulated article about the film, regardless of my own personal stance.
AmazingFantasy - 2/3/2013, 9:20 PM
2 films tomorrow I think, [frick]ing KEEN

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