Poll: In a Wonder Woman Movie Would You Rather Ares as Main Villain or WW´s Mentor?

Poll: In a Wonder Woman Movie Would You Rather Ares as Main Villain or WW´s Mentor? Poll: In a Wonder Woman Movie Would You Rather Ares as Main Villain or WW´s Mentor?

In a Wonder Woman Movie Would You rather Ares as Main Villain or WW´s Mentor?
Asking because of a discussion I´m having. I just want to know what you think.

Editorial Opinion
By aresww3 - Mar 09, 2014 03:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Wonder Woman
Source: ComicBookMovie.com

I wanted to know if there is a villain people would prefer to see WW face in her first movie than Ares. If so who and would you want to see him as her mentor instead.



Also of the following who would you want as a villain in a Wonder Woman Movie? Which of Wonder Womans villains would you pay to see and who makes sense to you as Wonder Womans main villain to you?



Thanks.

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GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/9/2014, 4:00 PM
What a great, well-written article ;)

Villain, definitely a villain.

P.S. CBM isn't a forum...
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 4:12 PM
JJ63: You´re allowed to put polls up aren´t you?
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/9/2014, 4:13 PM
I know I'm just being a prick, making of fun of the one-two sentence long editorial.

Sorry if my being a dick upset you...
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 4:20 PM
No not at all, just wanted to follow the rules. Can I ask a question, do you know much about WW? Also, if there was a movie of Wonder Woman coming out, what would your first thought be if it was announced that her main villain will be called The First Born or the villain will be Apollo The Sun God, compared to Ares God of War? What would be the easiest sell for you? Really interested in your thoughts.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 3/9/2014, 4:33 PM
I really hope Ares is not a mentor to Wonder Woman. Because then WB is taking pages out of the bad 52. I don't like when WW is shown as a warmonger. I prefer her as an ambassador for peace. But I do think sadly they will go more of the New 52 way. Some people like when WW is all about violence but I personally think that destroys her character and makes her less interesting. But like I said that's just me.

I voted for Circe as the villain. I also think it would be interesting though if Herakles was in the movie too. His history with Diana and the Amazons is dark. Plus having him in the movie opens up a door for in the future WB to bring out the Marvel Family. I think Captain Marvel could make for a great movie called Shazam.
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 4:41 PM
BlackIce Joe, I agree with everything you said. I´d save Circe for second movie. Great villain, but I think you need to start wonder woman or sterdier ground. Really want to know what people who don´t know that much about WW think. thanks for comment.
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 4:43 PM
Mr. Black Jack I like that idea, but ultimately you still want him as villain no? kind of like Ras in Batman Begins. I´m talking about just a straight up mentor figure. Do you think that will be a waste or good idea?
BubSnikt
BubSnikt - 3/9/2014, 4:59 PM
Mentor for first and maybe second films. Cheetah first villain, Circe second, and Ares third.
breakneckbeck
breakneckbeck - 3/9/2014, 5:01 PM
I always thought Maxwell Lord would be a good WW villain
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 6:14 PM
oh yeah forgot about maxwell lord. i´ll try and put him in.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 3/9/2014, 6:28 PM
@aresww3

I can see why you might want Circe for a sequel. She is one of the better WW villains. So what would you think of Giganta, Dr, Cyber or Dr. Psycho instead for the first film. Any of the three or if WB wants to be crazy and have them team up in a movie would be pretty neat.
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 7:12 PM
@aresww3. I kind of didn´t want affect the vote by putting my opinion. If it were up to me though. This is how i´d do it.

For the first movie, I´d tease Ares as the villain to fans, but I´d call him something else. So the whole way through the marketing campaign, you´d see a guy and think it must be Ares, but not confirm that it is actually Ares. Of course when the film finally hits ora few months before, confirm that it is him. That would stir up hype.

So my main villain for the first would be Ares, with Dr. Poison as secondary. Kind of like Scarecrow in Batman Begins.

Second movie based on Amazons attack and Paradise Lost would be Alkyone and Circe. They lead the Amazon army to basically attack Mans World. An epic kind of thrill ride like Dark Knight rises. I might throw Cheetah in the mix somehow as well, if she´ll fit.

last movie would have to be Genocide, Veronica Cale and Ares in the background. Veronica would have been built up over the last couple of movies and Genocide will be a kind of Android machine she´s made that can defeat Wonder Woman. Ares, the comes in and some how makes the Android killing machine, set destroy everything. Dr. Cyber could work for Cale as well. which would be cool.

That would be my trilogy.

Personally I think WW has to start out with a strong recognizable villain which is the debate I´m having with this guy online which is why I put up a pole to see what people think generally. I think WW has great villains but few of them are easy and markatable like Ares God Of War. I think it would cause alot more excitement than any of her other Rogues with General Audiences, so I think making him mentor is not a good idea.

As Dr. Psycho, love him as a villain. I could see if they do a film and its successful using Dr. Psycho in an anime style story about WW, same as Giganta. Kind of like some animated 20 minute or even 30 min films.

This is how I would approach things, but well I can only dream. :)
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 3/9/2014, 7:15 PM
Do Aquaman and Atlantis as the central antagonists, but reveal that both parties were tricked in a ploy to bring war to Themyscira, then have Diana fight Ares and bring olypmus down with him. The Amazons can't rely on the gods for help anymore and begin to acclimate with normal human society.

Also the fall of the gods of Olympus is perfect set up for the rise of the New Gods.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 3/9/2014, 7:18 PM
They shouldn't set up for a trilogy though, they should make one good Wonder Woman film that covers all her bases. This is what Green Lantern did wrong, they didn't go with the strong arch enemy, Sinestro, because they thought they'd get 2 more movies to set that up. If they had just done Sinestro and saved the Sinestro corps, then i guarantee Green Lantern would have been better.
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 7:28 PM
@BlackIceJoe - Sorry my last comment was an answer to you. Also just to clarify, this isn´t about my favorite villain. I´m talking from a marketing standpoint, what villain would drum up most excitement amongst fans who vaguely know about WW (Like people familiar with DCAU and Injustice Gods among us and other stuff) and what would be the easiest villain to sell to those who know nothing about the character and will be swayed one way or another by tone and subject matter of the film. Ares has got to be the guy.

It would be like in 1989 when Batman came out throwing The Madhatter into the film. I don´t think Batman would be the success it is today or would have caught the public imagination the way it did without the franchise starting with the strongest player. That had to be the joker, possibly Penguin or The Riddler. Had to be.

For me with WW who has even less to choose from, its got to be Ares. You can put another villain in with him but Ares has got to be the main villain for the franchise to start strong and to sell an easy point to mainstream. Apollo or First Born for instance are confusing in my opinion. Not that they´re not good villains but from the point of view of some one who is being told what the WW film is going to be about, whats better to say "WW has to go to Mans world to stop the Ares the God Of War from plunging the World into all out War." Or her "facing a Sun God, to ..." or "The First Born to ..." Or a "Warecheetah to...." Its just not clean cut enough for her first outing. All great villains but they need a strong foundation where people have faith in the franchise before moving to those guys.
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/9/2014, 7:36 PM
@gamecreatorjj - I couldn´t agree more with the Sinestro thing. The thinking was because Batman Begins did it they could do it with Green Lantern. Problem with that is no one knows Green Lanterns villains because he doesn´t have beloved movies from the 80s, animated shows in 90s and films from 80s-90s. It works with Superman and Batman because they already have a strong foundation . I strongly suggest that if DC wants successful franchises with Aquaman, Shazam, WW, Flash, they need to start with the best like The Batman and Superman films did when they first came out. Start with the Archenemy. Then say 10 years from now when all the movies are classics then they can take the Batman Begins root with the the order of villains. Good point.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 3/9/2014, 7:55 PM
@aresww3

That is an interesting plot. I really like how you want to keep the Olympian part of her history.

@gamecreatorjj

I can see a battle between Atlantis and Olympus being an interesting one. So something like Flashpoint? It would be cool to see the Atanteans vs the Amazons. I just would not want the whole film to be a war against each other. Maybe have the first half of the film they are out to take down each other. But after they find out the real villain isn't each other they team up to take down the true villain. So the movie would be an Aquaman/Wonder Woman movie like what WB is doing with Batman/Superman.
kong
kong - 3/9/2014, 8:11 PM
I think mentor turned villain would be good. By turned villain I mean from WW's perspective. So he didn't change or become bad, but WW realized what he really was.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 3/9/2014, 10:36 PM
@Blackicejoe That's exactly what I was thinking, it would start kind of like Flashpoint, but as the story progresses it's a team up film. DC's trick to getting back on top could rely on doing superhero team up films rather than solo movies. They could do a Flash movie, with Green Lantern as a major supporting character. Batman and Green Arrow take on Ras and Meryln. Captain Marvel and Hawkman joining up after the original JSA starts to be offed one by one.

Solo movies won't do the trick if they want this JLA movie to pan out, they need to use different tactics.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 3/10/2014, 12:42 AM
I would say none of those above. Felix Faust. I'd like to see the whole mentor dynamic but I would do it with another character.
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/10/2014, 3:07 AM
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Klone
Klone - 3/10/2014, 9:32 AM
Villain. WW being Ares' bitch is retarded. Reinforces the notion of her being a blood thirsty retard like in JLW that only cared about fighting who has the IQ of a loud 5 year old.
Klone
Klone - 3/10/2014, 9:32 AM
I don't see the point of Cale. She's basically a lame version of Luthor that's a woman.
BubSnikt
BubSnikt - 3/10/2014, 4:53 PM
@gamecreatorjj I like the idea of a Batman/Green Arrow team-up to take down Ra's and Merlyn
aresww3
aresww3 - 3/11/2014, 2:36 AM
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