2013 CBM FightClub THURSDAY SUPERBATTLE CCCLXVI (366)

2013 CBM FightClub THURSDAY SUPERBATTLE CCCLXVI (366) 2013 CBM FightClub THURSDAY SUPERBATTLE CCCLXVI (366)

Undercard-HAWKMAN vs SHEENA | Title Fight-BRAINIAC vs OPTIMUS PRIME | Rematch-BLACK CANARY vs HULK | Results for CBM FightClub CLXXXIX (189): BRAINIAC vs SILVER SURFER | EMMA FROST vs SUPERMAN | DAREDEVIL vs HAWKMAN |

Feature Opinion
By TheWitness - Jan 31, 2013 12:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic
Source: Savvy-Geek


CBM FightClub Official Group Standing
# of Wins# of Fighters
225104
235108
4781

ver.9.8
Many of you suggested if we could divide the fighters into weight divisions. I personally find this difficult but I am interested in doing this. (Though implementing it would be far off in the future so for the mean time we'll just put it into votes). Here's one possible way in classifying the characters. Fenix122/Hush2010, actually came up with a great idea on how to classify them I just tweaked the idea a little: Characters with no powers just skills and a few gadgets (Natural Lightweights - Batman, Punisher, Green Hornet and Kato,...). Characters with one set of power/enhancement, or heightened natural abilities(Natural Middleweights - Captain America [supersoldier serum], Iron Man, Black Canary, Sheena, Wolverine...). Characters with Multiple sets of non-related powers or "Super-strong guys" or Cosmic beings (Natural Heavyweights - Thor, Hulk, Colossus, Superman, Darkseid, Hellboy,...).
From ravennpilot: The weight classes can be fixed after a few battles. I think of combat sports for the answer. If you are destroying everyone in the weight class step up for a challenge. If your being out classed then step out. Find a happy center.My suggestion is characters start at their "Natural" weight division. Using their fight percentages if they hit a certain number they can either go up a division or go down.

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CBM FightClub CLXXXIX (189) results:

[SILVER SURFER]
BRAINIAC(42)
vs
SILVER SURFER(344)

Rank: 9
# of Fights: 15
Win/s: 11

| SUPERMAN | FLASH | DEATHSTROKE | GREEN LANTERN TOMAR-RE | SINESTRO | BRAINIAC | SUPERBOY | GENERAL ZOD | SPAWN | GREEN LANTERN HAL JORDAN | DOOMSDAY


Loss/es: 4

| BATMAN | DR MANHATTAN | MARTIAN MANHUNTER | GANDALF

[EMMA FROST]
EMMA FROST(482)
vs
SUPERMAN(424)

Rank: 39
# of Fights: 2
Win/s: 2

| SUPERMAN | LOBO


Loss/es: 0

[HAWKMAN]
DAREDEVIL(167)
vs
HAWKMAN(249)

Rank: 201
# of Fights: 10
Win/s: 4

| HAWKEYE | DAREDEVIL | CONAN | DR OCTOPUS


Loss/es: 6

| HULK | BEAST | INVISIBLE WOMAN | SIF | CAPTAIN AMERICA | BLADE


CBM FightClub Rules

-THIS IS NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST!
-The fights need not be DEATHMATCHES, incapacitating the other fighter/s can be considered a win.
-SEEMINGLY LOPSIDED MATCH MAY OCCUR (just like in comics and movies).
-Fights may consist of individuals, duos or teams.
-Eligible fighters are characters who have adaptations in any form of comics AND movies.
Undercard Fight

Scenario: FIRST MEETING(NO PREP TIME and NO KNOWLEDGE of the other fighter's STRENGTHS & WEAKNESSES).
HAWKMAN vs SHEENA


[HAWKMAN]

Rank: 201
# of Fights: 10
Win/s: 4

| HAWKEYE | DAREDEVIL | CONAN | DR OCTOPUS


Loss/es: 6

| HULK | BEAST | INVISIBLE WOMAN | SIF | CAPTAIN AMERICA | BLADE



Click for WAR MACHINE vs WITCHBLADE fight
[SHEENA]

Rank: 29
# of Fights: 3
Win/s: 3

| HAWKEYE | WHIPLASH | MYSTIQUE


Loss/es: 0


Title Fight

Scenario:CHANCE ENCOUNTER (NO PREP TIME but has KNOWLEDGE of other fighter's STRENGTHS & WEAKNESSES)

BRAINIAC vs OPTIMUS PRIME

[BRAINIAC]

Rank: 47
# of Fights: 7
Win/s: 4

| IRON MONGER | IRON MAN | FREDDY KRUEGER | COLOSSUS


Loss/es: 3

| THOR | HULK | SILVER SURFER



Click for DARKSEID vs WARRIORS THREE fight
[OPTIMUS PRIME]

Rank: 87
# of Fights: 2
Win/s: 1

| BLUE BEETLE


Loss/es: 1

| THOR


Rematch

Scenario: PLANNED BOUTS (has PREP TIME and full KNOWLEDGE of opponent's STRENGTHS & WEAKNESSES)

BLACK CANARY vs HULK

[BLACK CANARY]

Rank: 4
# of Fights: 20
Win/s: 16

| CALLISTO | BLACK WIDOW | PUNISHER | ELEKTRA | JOHN CARTER OF MARS | MARIA HILL | BULLSEYE | ABIGAIL WHISTLER | SPIDER-MAN | TOAD | SABRETOOTH | MYSTIQUE | BLADE | VAN HELSING | DAREDEVIL | GREEN HORNET AND KATO


Loss/es: 4

| HULK | SHADOWCAT | BANSHEE | IRON MAN



Click for BLACK WIDOW vs THE SHADOW fight
[HULK]

Rank: 9
# of Fights: 15
Win/s: 11

| HAWKMAN | BLACK CANARY | MARTIAN MANHUNTER | BLUE BEETLE | WONDER WOMAN | BRAINIAC | SUPERMAN | VAN HELSING | PARASITE | LOBO | DOOMSDAY


Loss/es: 4

| GREEN LANTERN HAL JORDAN | DR MANHATTAN | SWAMP THING | YODA


2013 Mixed Nuts

Scenario: A free-for-all fight of the TOP 15 qualified ClubFighters. They are in their "regular" peak condition with access to their regular gadgets and resources.


Rank #87

Predator
Rank #87

(Samurai X) Kenshin Himura
Rank #87

Yoda
Rank #83

James Bond
Rank #83

Selene
Rank #59

Liz Sherman
Rank #59

Alien
Rank #59

Chun-Li
Rank #59

Hades
Rank #52

Sub-Zero
Rank #48

Neo
Rank #48

Snake-Eyes
Rank #39

Red Sonja
Rank #29

Sheena
Rank #23

Darth Vader

Ranking is based on the character's current standing on CBM FightClub

2012 UBER DARK HORSE

VAMPIRELLA
(3519 votes)
#2 DARTH VADER (902 votes)
#3 RED SONJA (498 votes)
#4 NEO (343 votes)
#5 TERMINATOR T-800 (172 votes)
#6 SUB-ZERO (100 votes)
#7 CROW (100 votes)
#8 XENOMORPH ALIEN (70 votes)
#9 ROBOCOP (68 votes)
#10 YAUTJA PREDATOR (65 votes)
#11 SPOCK (60 votes)
#12 SNAKE-EYES (58 votes)
#13 JUDGE DREDD (47 votes)
#14 KENSHIN (SAMURAI X) HIMURA (26 votes)
#15 AEON FLUX (16 votes)

*UBER DARK HORSE is automatically included in this year's CBM's Battle Royale, the prestigious Free-For-All Fight - ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE.
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unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 12:41 AM
Hawkman vs Sheena.

Hawkman wins.Hawkman can track a humming birds wing movement,strong enough to rip a door off a car,and tough enough to take hits from Black Adam.

Brainiac vs Optimus Prime.

Brainiac wins.It would be a great battle but at the end of the day one shall stand and one shall fall.Prime is a excellent markmen but Brainy is fast and agile.Also Prime is use to fighting bots his own size and he is alot smaller then Soundwave's cassette minions.

Black Canary vs Hulk.

Hulk wins.Hulk smash!

Black Canary win.See above.

Yoda for the battle royale.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 12:53 AM
1. I didn't vote-I don't care about either one, both are lame and I also swore never to vote for Hawkman under ANY circumstances.

2. I voted for Optimus Prime-If Brainiac can get control of him then it'd be over, but I don't see him doing that and besides that he'd be completely outgunned by Prime.

3. I voted for Hulk-you see THIS is why I think divisions are a good idea, because what's the point of even having this? There is no discussion, no debate, it's a hard stomp and no one would dispute that.( the same should be said of other like Cap/Booster Gold, Batman/Iron Man but people still dispute those..dumb people)

And as for previous battles, Emma Frost beating Superman? Eh...I'm undecided on that, Phoenix? Yes! Emma Frost? I dont know man...
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 1:33 AM
Black Canary beat Spider-Man?? That's INSANITY!! I don't think she'd beat Daredevil either but that one's debatable, but Spider-Man? No, nuh-uh never gonna happen.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 1:52 AM
I would call Cap beating Booster or Bats beating Stark impossible.With Cap he'll probably use his shield to deflect his blasts back at him.Bat's would need to some how fry Ironman's circuitry either with an EMP or microwave pulse cannon.In a prep battle Batman would more then likely use a control Technovore virus disguised as a batarang.Tony would catch it thinking he threw a useless batarang crush it in his hands and boom massive system failure.Tony without the use of his suit Tony is practically a normal guy.
relentless1
relentless1 - 1/31/2013, 1:52 AM
i think shes got daredevils number, her scream is made to mess with dds sonar
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 1:53 AM
I meant *wouldn't.
relentless1
relentless1 - 1/31/2013, 1:59 AM
@ fenix, agreed with the emma frost beating superman, he doesnt get the love he deserves on here he can beat anybody with the exception of surfer, phoenix and manhattan
relentless1
relentless1 - 1/31/2013, 2:26 AM
@ unknownfacts, completely agree with your reasoning that batman can beat iron man ive said it on many occasions
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 2:35 AM
There are just a few others that could take Supes in a battle.

Doctor Strange could, why?
Superman=completely defenseless against magic.
Doc Strange=most powerful magician in any/all of the universes.

I think Hulk would stalemate him. Unless Superman holds back and allows the fight to drag on, in that case Hulk would eek out the win.

Galactus & Odin, same reason as Manhattan. They are pretty much omnipotent.

But all in all you ARE correct, Superman can take on pretty much everything in Marvel with few exceptions and Hulk, Thor & Gladiator stalemating and "possibly" beating him. (not counting Sentry, he's a lame gimmick that didn't last long)

This is what I always say:
Random Marvel character vs Superman=Superman wins 90% of the time.
Random Marvel character vs Batman=Marvel wins 90% of the time.
That's the best way to put it...

BUT the thing is, how much of a defense does Superman have against telepathy? Is he weak against it? Or does he have a few defenses against it?
AnungUnRama
AnungUnRama - 1/31/2013, 2:36 AM
#1 Hawkman. He is beyond Sheena's league
#2 Brainiac. Not just that he could take over Optimus' system, but he is also on a 100+ strength level and hence could fight Optimus the classic way.
#3 Hulk. No contest.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 2:39 AM
@Relentless
No, Batman can't beat Iron Man. It's the same as Cap vs BG except Cap>>>Bats and BG>>>Iron Man. There isn't much that Bats/Cap could do against them, in the Batman/Iron Man debate Iron Man IS stronger, smarter (yes, he is smarter. Who has accomplished more with fewer resources? Iron Man :)) faster, tougher, and WAAAY out of puny Batman's league.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 2:43 AM
And seriously guys, no way does Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously people, it's like saying Hawkeye will beat Hellboy. Doesent matter how skilled he is, one single shot and the battle is over. That one is NOT debatable it's a curb stomp and Tony effortlessly destroy Bruce and you know it!
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 3:37 AM
@Fenix

Like I alway say maybe with prep Batman could beat him.Look at it this way when you preparing you are getting ready for the task at hand.Cap and Bats are taking on stronger opponents they have to come up with a plan to counter their opponent strengths and turn it to a weakness.With Booster and Tony their going up against weaker (by power stand point)opponents so they more then likely wont add anything special to their reagular arsenal.Most people will argue the fact they will bring extra protection but in truth they wont.

It like if Tony and Bruce goes up against Living Laser and Clayface for the first time.Yeah the villians win but in the rematch they wouldn't think to counter anything they would bring.Like Laser wouldn't think to bring something to break mirrors incase Stark brought a reflective suit or cage.Or how Clayface wouldn't think to cover himself in rock salt to prevent Batman from using an ice pellet to freeze him.

unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 3:44 AM
Anyway I'm done defending Bats it clear that most people on here hate him,but Cap may have a slightly better chance with Booster if he can get pass the shield.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 3:50 AM
@Fenix
If you don't mind me asking why wont you vote for Hawkman?
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 3:58 AM
Superman has some psychic block according to Superman vs the Elite they're suppose to be the best in the world.I say that because Manchester Black is a psychic and stated to that fact,but also because everyone of the Elite was Superman level powers.But then Max Lord mind controled Supes so the psychic blocks strength level are highly debatable.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 6:30 AM
Honestly? What the world could Emma Frost ever do Superman?

Slut him to death?

Maybe just maybe… Bore Him to death.

Oh I know, they could change her color to green like a sapphire and then user mental powers (I use the term loosely) to convince Superman she was really made of green kryptonite. Then Superman proceeds to laugh himself to death.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 6:40 AM
Unknown, I don't hate Batman. Farthest thing from the truth. I think he's awesome And a serious bad ass. I just get annoyed when people justified crazy outcomes concerning him.

I have no problem with characters like him beating the odds and defeating a foe greater than him, that's what they do. I even enjoyed the once in a while hero winning against all odds story. But you have to admit things have gone completely out-of-control with Batman to the point of lunacy. The negative feelings are just natural pushback to that.

I have to admit I'm very interested in seeing how this weight class stuff works out
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 7:04 AM
Batman could indeed defeat iron man, it's entirely possible. BUT it is a long shot at best and would only happen one in 100 times. I think in all fairness you have to take that under consideration in these bouts and understand you have to go with law of averages.

I don't agree with a lot of people here about Superman versus the Hulk.

DC heroes in the past Have always been stronger than most of their counterpart Marvel characters. Marvel Started to put a weight scale together in the 70s to categorize strength levels. The Hulk being classified at the top at 100,000 tons.

Superman has always been way beyond that in my interpretation.

Yes the Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets, but come on he has clear-cut limits and he can not move a world. One of the reasons I really disliked the first "secret wars", was The Hulk being portrayed as holding up an entire mountain, something I considered then completely ludicrous for the character. All you have to do is understand tonnage to realize how stupid that was. I just chalked it up too poor writing back then.

That picture of The Hulk basically punching an unaffected Superman is always what I envision what really would happened.

One of the great things about Marvel comics was the consistency. They all lived in the same world and were affected by the same stories. They also had consistency in their powers and a sense of realism. marvel have allowed themselves to get away from them more and more over the decades weakening that legacy. that makes me sad

That's my 2cents

GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 9:36 AM
@Unkown
I don't hate Batman either, I think he's cool and everything it's just that he doesent deserve even half of the crazy amounts of credit that he's given. Dude got his butt kicked by Bane who has no powers, but people on here think he could beat Spidey, Iron Man, Thor, etc. on a first time and it really annoys me because he's just a normal human with no powers or anything and that's why people like him because he's vulnerable. Yeah, I get that Thor, Hulk and Superman are NEAR-invulnerable but Batman isn't this invincible guy that people make him out to be. He's in the same group as Green Arrow, Punisher, Hawkeye.,,very skilled but still with human limits and human abilities. His toughest villain is Killer Croc who can barely lift 3 tons, if you look at his Abilties and compare them to all the other heroes out here. He's incredibly weak, and is an ant next to them and he could never beat them and it just annoys me because people think that he can beat anyone when he's really a regular human with human limits.

And as for Hawkman, I've always thought he was stupid and he's the one character that I actually do hate and I don't partake in arguments involving him because just looking at him makes me angry.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 10:16 AM
Now if Hawkman was a sexy redhead instead…

… Oh wait a minute… Nevermind
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 10:21 AM
@Spidey
My reasoning behind the whole Superman thing is that both Thor and Hulk have beaten Gladiator. Now I get that the logic A>B=C isn't a very good argument. But you have to see that Gladiator IS completely equal to Superman. Many even claim that Gladiator is the more powerful one, my thing is that whenever I speak to the DC fanboys most of them are perfectly willing to accept Gladiator beating Superman. But whenever you bring up Thor or Hulk they get angry and aren't willing to give them a chance, even though Thor and Hulk can both hang against Glad. People also claim that Superman is stronger than them but out of those four (Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, Superman) none of them has found a true limit to their strength. And my reasoning is this: remember when he destroyed that thing that was twice as big as Earth. Okay...now remember when he lifted that 150 billion ton mountain, now if just one mountain weighed that much then I figure that the entire Earth is around the trillions/quadrillions range. And that Earth x2 is around the sextillion/septillion tons range. Which is barely below Superman-level, if Supes could act quickly and decisively. He could win, but if the drags on Hulk would become too strong to handle and I see a Hulk win or a stalemate more likely.
Minato
Minato - 1/31/2013, 10:55 AM
Can I get a update on the fight club rankings 1-10?

Canary #6
Hulk #9
Minato
Minato - 1/31/2013, 10:57 AM
It also says Silver Surfer is #9 and Ill be disappointed if Batman isn't in the top 10 especially if Canary is 6
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 11:14 AM
@Hush
Those rankings are all crazy, it's based off of how many battles theyve won and lost. I think #1 is between Hulk and Doomsday with Thor, Silver Surfer and Martian Manhunter closing out the top 5.

Along with Doc Strange, Superman, GL, Flash and Wonder Woman to complete the top 10. Batman, Cap & Canary shouldn't be top 10. They'd all three barely be top 20 if we looked objectively.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 11:23 AM
And if Gladiator was in these fights he'd be top 10 above WW and probably GL too.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 1:33 PM
I'm with you brother all the way until you say the Hulk has defeated Gladiator.

There is the problem, some writer dropped the ball big time with that. Which goes to my argument that such poor writing dilutes all the work that was done years earlier in keeping the characters consistent.

You are correct as far as I'm concerned in your assessment that Gladiator is supposed to be a Marvel Superman clone, therefore if written correctly should not lose to the Hulk, at least not because the whole overpowered him. I don't hear how angry he got.

But it was written so you are correct if you want to hold to your scenario.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 1:48 PM
Another thing I don't like about the Hulk since the 80s is this idea that he has a healing factor. WTF so now for writing convenience he has half of Wolverine's powers?

That's the job of a strong editor to keep the writer in line. No doubt about it Marvel severely began dropping the Ball in the early 90s a.k.a. CLONE SAGA.

But it helps to understand that in that era 90s the comic book industry was put on its ear with collectors fever. That fuel the sensational stories. You can blame it all on DC and the death of Superman, that and the worth of baseball cards.
Craven
Craven - 1/31/2013, 1:50 PM
I have to completely agree with @Anung today...except I have Sub-Zero for the battle...

The hatred of these fightclubs and the fanboy society has brainwashed most into hating Batman...I don't let others influence my opinion and will stick with my state on Bruce beating Tony...

I don't understand the hatred for Hawkman either...yeah, Hawkwoman is better...but Carter is an awesome character...
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/31/2013, 2:24 PM
I'm with you Loud, sorry rotten on this we can't really agree. Batman might might just get lucky and win in one in 100. I given that on the caveat Tony might get caught unaware underestimating him. That does not constitute a slam Bam Batman would win, far from it.

It's not hate for the character you haven't been reading or you can't comprehend if that's what you believe. It's the ridiculousness of the claims that causes the pushback.

I say enjoy your fantasies and don't worry what the rest of us think, just clean up after yourself :-)
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 2:49 PM
@RottenCotten
I don't think anyone on here who "hates" Batman. (well maybe FOOM does) the word "hate" is very strong and is often misused. Myself, LoudLon, SpideyQuad and others...I don't think any of us hate Batman. It's just that we see that he's not this invincible dude that he's cracked up to be, and that he's just a regular human. Personally, I don't hate him his movies are awesome, his cartoons are some of the best. I grew up with his comics, I'd say he's the most interesting comic book hero ever...PERIOD. I just still don't get when he became the Galactus-level threat that everyone makes him out to be, I'm not using only reference to the 70s or anything I still read his comics to this day. Ive never seen anything to make me believe that he's much more than a regular human. He's never pulled off any amazing things, yeah his villains are tough for him but that's because he's only human. Other heroes like Spidey, Iron Man, etc. would make short work of his villains. I DO NOT HATE BATMAN. Batman's awesome, I love Batman but I still don't understand when he became Odin-level.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 3:20 PM
And saying that Bats has 1 out of 100 chance against Tony is being insanely generous to the guy. It'd be more 1 out of 1,000 if u ask me maybe not neccessarily impossible but only a rare extreme circumstance that could only happen once out of a thousand tries.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 3:29 PM
I get the whole that if the idea sounds out of character for the character espeacially if one hasn't read the chacater in awhile.What I really find weird is the misinformation of a characters abilities.Like Silver Surfer ability to agument his strength to endless levels yet they fail to mention that the strength increase come at the cost of brain power.Now don't get me wrong it a valid arguement but what it cost him sound more like a last resort move then something he would use in a day to day fight.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 4:27 PM
Yes, I agree 100%

Batman DOES have a way of overcoming the odds when they are against him and he "finds a way" but you know what?

Spider-Man also finds a way and overcomes overwhelming odds a lot.
So does Cap.
So does Iron Man.
And especially Daredevil, I don't think any character has more determination behind them than Daredevil. He's always been one of my favs because he too has a way of overcoming massive odds stacked against him, he's a real inspiration because he was a blind kid who has found the determination to fight on and has become one if the most highly skilled combatants in any of the universes.

My point is that many heroes "find a way" Batman does it but not against everyone, like Daredevil does have a way of overcoming overwhelming odds, but if he went against Iron Man or Thor he'd still get toasted. BUT if he went against Cap he'd have a great chance against him even though he's outgunned because he can overcome the odds. Same way with Bats but to a lesser degree, if Batman was to face Iron Man or Spidey he'd get crushed but if he was to face say Iron Fist even though he'd have a good chance of losing he'd have an ok chance of winning it too.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 4:35 PM
I love this silliness now everybody love Batman.Love hate does anybody really cares.

Anyway I think in prep fights it's not about not utilizing the prep time but the why and how.If you won the first time and it's a rematch you've already counter there best efforts so you already know everything they will throw at you.Basically you're preparing for the known not the unknown.With magic and tech heroes you're in for a real interesting bout because you never know what they're going to do.
ravennpilot
ravennpilot - 1/31/2013, 4:38 PM
I think what we all forget is that comics are written about that 1 in a 100 chance. The cards are always against "insert random super hero" in their comic.

I guess you need to ask if you should vote for the best of 100 fights or if you think that someone has a perfect day vs someone who has a bad day.

I would also argue that landscape helps in these when they fight in the darkened streets of a city and would get their butts kicked if left to fight in a forest.

I like to consider that when we have a character on home turf vs visitor. Dare Devil rules his rooftops, put him in a dessert vs anyone with a projectile weapon and its a lose lose for him.

Its so hard to vote for these fights, I can only really vote for close fights and one sided fights. Batman vs Dare Devil is a close fight because picture an environment they are both comfortable with. This makes it easier for me to ignore outside effects.

Now if its Thor vs Superman, Thor has an edge, but if they are fighting 10 feet away from a yellow sun. Superman SMASH.



unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 1/31/2013, 4:45 PM
Total agree Ravennpilot.Finally someone who gets that sometimes victory depends on the senario.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 1/31/2013, 4:50 PM
@Unkown
Nobody has ever hated Batman, it's just that he doesent deserve half of the credit he gets. No one on here has ever hated Batman. So you are saying that if I don't vote for him under all circumstances that I hate him? And if i say hes not invicible them thats hating him? that's just dumb. I think your logic is flawed.
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