DrDoom Presents: My Pitch for THOR 3

After the success and response to my previous editorial pitch for Captain America 3, DrDoom has decided to tackle Marvel's other guaranteed Phase Three sequel: Thor 3. Come check out what I think would be a great direction to take the God of Thunder's next quest!

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By DrDoom - 7/27/2014


"Here we remain as a beacon of hope, shining out across the stars . . . . and though we have fallen into man's myths and legends, it was Asgard, and its warriors, that brought peace to the universe. But the day will come when one of you will have to defend that peace." - Odin Borson

Unlike the Russo Brothers, who, for the foreseeable future, seem to have a hold on the Captain America franchise for Marvel Studios, the Thor series does not have a known showrunner. While Alan Taylor directed Thor: The Dark World, he has not confirmed if he will return for another installment, with unconfirmed and even outright denied rumours of behind the scenes drama during the film's production. Regardless, another Thor film has already been confirmed by Kevin Feige to be a part of Phase Three, but no release date has been set.

Thor: The Dark World was a considerable box office and lukewarm critical success, but seems to be somewhat divisive amongst fans. Unlike Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which had a nearly unanimous positive response from the fanbase, Thor: The Dark World has a fair share of both fans and detractors. Fans laud things about the film such as the strong character development, cast members, visuals and action, while detractors note the overuse of humour, underdeveloped villains and misplaced focus on secondary characters. Whether you think the film is good or not, it was much more successful financially than the first, and it left multiple story threads (including a last second, game-changing plot twist) which indicates that more Thor films will be in the MCU's future.

With this in mind, I will now outline what I feel would be an intriguing direction to take the third film in the series. While no doubt Avengers: Age of Ultron will have some effect on where Thor stands in the Marvel Cinematic Universe by the time this film comes about, I will structure my story so that it is as open as possible, in case some plot threads are closed off.



Thor: Chaos Quest

The film opens by showing the realm of Asgard under siege by the forces of the Rock Trolls, led by Ulik. Loki is on the throne, but is still masquerading as Odin, with no one in Asgard knowing the truth. Sif leads the charge against the horde of vicious monsters, followed by the Warriors Three. During the battle, they remark on how long Thor has been gone, but are able to ultimately defeat Ulik and take him to the dungeon. After he has been locked up, he raves about how the time of Asgard is running out.

"Do you really think that you can stay on top of the universe forever, while the rest of us rot in pits of suffering and agony? The Realm Eternal is a lie . . . . the time of the Asgardians will soon be at an end."

The Warriors Three laugh this off, but Sif takes it to heart, and begins thinking of how things have changed since Thor has gone. Attacks against Asgard have been getting worse, and the realm has fallen into a state of disarray because of it, with the resolve of their enemies growing stronger. While walking through a courtyard outside the palace, Sif sees a small girl whom she does not recognize. Chasing her and trying to find her, all she can get are glimpses, as well as the sound of her laughter. After a minute or so, she finds herself questioning her eyes, and discards the occurence from her memory. What she doesn't see is a woman in green garb looking at her from a balcony, smiling mischieviously.



"Your birthright was to die! As a child, cast out unto a frozen rock. If I had not taken you in, you would not be here now to hate me."

Inside of Odin's private quarters, Sif attempts to speak to him, asking him why the state of Asgard has become so militant, and why he himself seems to care only for war. Odin responds by saying that with the threats against Asgard at an all time high, he has no choice but to act as a warlord. Odin dismisses Sif, and then reveals a magical mirror to another dimension: Hel, the realm of the dead, ruled by Hela, his daughter, who has agreed to allow Loki to use her realm to hold Odin for the time being.

Reverting to his true form, Loki travels to a small, black, spiked cage suspended with charcoal chains above a bottomless abyss. Inside of the cage is a malnourished and sickly Odin, desperately clinging to life. His two pet ravens, Hugin and Munin, loyally stay at his side, concerned about their master. Loki scoffs at the ravens, shooing them away, before looking down upon the defeated All-Father. Odin pleads with Loki, saying that all he asks is for Asgard to be kept safe. Loki says that without being able to truly tap into the Odinforce, as the throne has not been abdicated to him, Asgard will be continously under siege. Odin claims to know what Loki is planning to do to steal the Odinforce, and begs for him to reconsider, on his soul. Loki retorts by saying that his soul died on the same rock in Jotunheim that Odin stole him from.



"The Nine Realms travel within Yggrasil, orbiting Midgard much the way your planets orbit the sun. And every five thousand years the worlds align perfectly, and we call this the Convergence. During this time, the borders between worlds become blurred. It's possible you found one of these points. We are lucky they remained open. Once the worlds pass out of alignment, then the connection is lost." - Thor Odinson

Since the end of the second film, Thor has lived on Earth with Jane Foster. Having stayed with her for over a year, he is already feeling the effects of knowing Jane's mortality, and has internalized feelings of angst and fear about losing the woman he loves. He then receives an urgent message from Heimdall, telling him that Odin requests his presence. Jane tells him that if he is needed at home, then he should go. Thor accepts this and has Heimdall bring him back to Asgard.

Upon arriving, Thor is welcomed, to his surprise, by feelings of mistrust by the populace of Asgard. They call him a deserter and a 'mortal-lover', having abandoned Asgard during its time of need to stay with a woman from Midgard while the wars get worse and worse. Thor responds by saying that he did not know how bad things had gotten. While Sif and the Warriors Three warmly welcome the return of their friend, everyone else seems to look at Thor with disdain, even, to a lesser extent, Heimdall.

Thor returns to the Asgardian throne chamber, and meets with Odin. Thor notes that Odin is almost uncharacteristically cheerful, considering the state of Asgard. He says that it is just because his favourite son has returned. Odin then claims that he has a task for Thor that only he can accomplish: he needs Thor to take Sif and the Warriors Three to the realm of Alfheim and retrieve the AxeHammer, a mystical weapon similar to Mjolnir that is allegedly infused with 'chaos magic', which used to belong to the Trolls. Thor asks if he is not better served acting as defense for Asgard, but Odin retorts that AxeHammer, which none of them have ever heard of, is the key to protecting the realm.



"All these years and you're still the same Sif. Doing as you're told, heeling at the feet of those who command you. Never to get what you desire. Not Heldor, not Thor. A man who considers you more pet than woman." - Lorelei

I want a major part of this film to deal with the complex relationship between Thor and Sif. They have been friends and comrades in battle for centuries, possibly even millennia. They are intrinsically linked, and yet there is also a tragic gap between them that hasn't really been explored up to this point. After they meet again, Sif is going to show a certain amount of resentment for Thor leaving Asgard to be with Jane, but have an internal conflict due to her love for him. A flashback scene will indicate that when they were children, Thor and Sif actually did have something of a romance, which developed as they trained together to become warriors and defenders of Asgard. However, they grew apart because of both Thor's affections for another young woman of Asgard, Amora, as well as Sif's need on multiple Asgardian war campaigns. Thus, they never quite rekindled the spark.



"He kept the truth from you so that you would never feel different. You are our son, Loki, and we your family." - Frigga

During their quest for AxeHammer, the team repeatedly questions the All-Father's wisdom and motives, saying that he seems to be out of touch with how the wars are going. However, Fandral mentioned that he has brought this up with Heimdall, and that he is unable to see any treachery. What they do not realize, is that Loki has actually joined forces with Amora, who has taken on the name of 'The Enchantress'. She agreed to assist him in his scheme in exchange for recapturing her younger sister Lorelei (whom she despises), as well as the promise of becoming the Queen of Asgard.

While both Loki and Amora are masters of magic, they each have a different special talent: Loki's is physical illusions, which has been shown in previous films, while Amora's is empathetic manipulation, as in, the ability to change one's emotional state. She has been using this to get the people of Asgard to be angry with Thor, as well as to be content with Loki's incompetent ruling. She is also the one responsible for clouding Heimdall's mind so that he does not realize what is truly happening.

During the time while Thor and his team are away on their 'quest', Loki (as Odin) calls a meeting with the other rulers of the realms, including Faradei, ruler of the Elves, Alflyse, the ruler of what is left of the Dark Elves, Eitri, ruler of the dwarves, and Grundroth, the ruler of the Frost Giants. He claims that he wants to call a truce on the wars of Asgard due to hearing of an ancient prophecy that foretells the destruction of Yggdrasil, which will annihilate all of existence. The other rulers agree to the truce, on the condition that Odin brings them evidence to prove the credibility of this 'universe-ending' threat.



"You will become darkness, cursed to this existence until it consumes you. Until then, no power our enemies possess can stop you." - Malekith the Accursed

Thor and his team reach the end of their quest by finding the AxeHammer and returning it to Asgard. Odin congratulates them on their success, but Thor feels confused by the seeming lack of point to the quest given how the AxeHammer itself is a seemingly small, insignificant weapon. Thor then notes that Odin again refers to him as his 'favourite son', when he is the only living son he has, as well as the fact that he has not seen Hugin or Munin, who almost never leave Odin's side. Loki slips by asking 'Who?' at the mention of the ravens, and Thor realizes that it is an imposter and attacks Odin, revealing Loki's true form.

Loki then shouts for Amora's assistance, who reveals herself by transforming from the small girl that Sif saw earlier into her true form. Amora, who hated Sif for the competition she gave for Thor's heart as children, had been previously toying with her. Amora opens a portal to Hel, which catapults the team down there. Upon arriving, they see Odin in his cage. Before they can help him, Amora then opens a stone slab, which releases the soul of Kurse, the strongest of the Dark Elves, who died during the last film. Having been brought back to life (and fulfilling the prophetic nature of Loki saying that he will 'see him in Hel'), Kurse attacks and engages in an epic battle with Thor, Sif, and the Warriors Three.



"With the boiling hatred of a billion billion souls, we live again! By Odin's foul treachery, we were imprisoned! But now, to vengeance! To Asgard! Odin! We come for you!" - Mangog

With Kurse distracting the heroes, Loki takes AxeHammer to a secret pedestal inside of Hel. It is revealed that this pedestal is the holding place of Mangog, an ancient, nearly indestructible creature powered by the hatred of a billion souls that Odin extinguished in a Great War thousands of years ago. Odin tapped into chaos magic, which was the only way to contain the beast, to create AxeHammer and the pedestal. Before it was imprisoned, Mangog boasted that it would destroy Yggdrasil and end existence as a means of revenge against Odin if it were to ever be released.

After Sif defeats Kurse by kicking him into the bottomless abyss under Odin's cage, the Warriors Three run to it and attempt to free the All-Father. Thor tries to reason with Loki, but to no avail; Loki uses AxeHammer to open the pedestal and release Mangog. It is revealed that Loki's plan was for Mangog to destroy Yggdrasil, which has an avatar in Odin's Palace, and release the Odinforce. Then, Loki would join with the Odinforce so that he would truly become the legitimate successor to the throne of Asgard, and thus become one of the most powerful beings in the universe, whom the other leaders of the Nine Realms would follow because of how he saved all of existence.



"I'm not your brother. I never was." - Loki Laufeyson

Mangog attacks with all his rage, overpowering Thor easily and destroying much of Hel as he claws his way to Asgard. Thor tells the Warriors Three to help Odin, while he and Sif return to Asgard to battle Mangog. Loki and Amora teleport to Asgard and watch as Mangog carves a path of death and destruction on his way to the Yggdrasil avatar in Odin's Palace. Thor and Sif arrive, and they engage in a two on two battle as Mangog marches onward in the background.

As the battle spills into the Yggdrasil chamber, Mangog breaks in, and Thor tries with all his might to repel the beast. Despite this, he fails, and Mangog destroys Yggdrasil, shattering the fabric of reality itself. However, at this moment, Sif slashes at Loki's back, and she yells for Thor to leap forward. He does, joining with the freed Odinforce. Becoming the true All-Father, Thor uses his new powers to heal Yggdrasil, repair the damage to reality, and to reseal Mangog within the pedestal inside of Hel. Thor takes the war criminals Loki and Amora, and gives them to Hela, who wants revenge on her father for the near-destruction of her realm by Mangog. Hela agrees to keep the two in a state of 'living death'; freezing them inside of a slab of magical ice, where they will be conscious, but unable to affect the world around them.



"Loki, for all his grave imbalance understood rule as I know I never will. The brutality, the sacrifice. It changes you. I'd rather be a good man than a great king."

With the universe saved, Thor heals Odin's wounds. Odin tells Thor that now that the Odinforce has been passed on to his successor, he cannot have it returned to him. Knowing his newfound responsibility, he speaks to Jane one last time, telling her that although she will always have a place in his heart, he now has no choice but to remain as the King of Asgard. Taking his place on the throne, the people of Asgard chant the name of the new All-Father.

So what do you think? Is this the sort of film you would like to see in Thor 3? Let me know in the comments section!
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RedNTheHood - 7/27/2014, 4:38 PM
Thor + Sif!!!!!

I'm not the type of fan to be on team "whatever to people", but I freaking hate Jane Foster and love Sif so.....
NightWatcher - 7/27/2014, 4:47 PM
Great job Doom! You got my like!
NightWatcher - 7/27/2014, 4:58 PM
That Kurse picture






GliderMan - 7/27/2014, 4:58 PM
This is great stuff, DrDoom. I didn't like your Cap 3 pitch much at all, but these are really good ideas. I personally would change three things: Removing the Enchantress for a later film, having Odin be dead, and have Jane come to Asgard to be it's queen. Even though those are my preferences, your ideas would make a badass movie, too.

Now get on your pitch for Iron Man 4!!
SniktBub - 7/27/2014, 5:45 PM
We don't need more Kurse. I'll make a better comment later when I have more time
HarrowingGreen - 7/27/2014, 5:53 PM
Not only was this the most enjoyably written article that I have ever read on this site, but I LOVE your idea. One of the best things about the Thor franchise in my opinion is that they end each movie on a franchise changing note. Thor 1 had the bifrost shattered, leaving him cut off. Thor 2 ended with Loki on the throne.

While the first one was kind of ignored in Avengers, I give credit to Branaugh for trying, and I like how you ended with Thor as king. That for sure changes the franchise, and possibly the next Avengers movie.
HarrowingGreen - 7/27/2014, 5:54 PM
I love that you used pictures and quotes from previous movies.
TheHero - 7/27/2014, 6:03 PM
Cool Pitch, man!
I really like it!!!! However, if you're going to have Enchantress, shouldn't you also have the Executioner with her?
GliderMan - 7/27/2014, 6:06 PM
I wish there was a way to incorporate Malekith again.
DrDoom - 7/27/2014, 6:08 PM
@GliderMan

Who says you can't? This is the Marvel Universe . . . . I'm sure there could be a way to bring Malekith back from the dead.
GliderMan - 7/27/2014, 6:21 PM
@DrDoom True. I get annoyed that they do that in the comics, so they'd need a really good reason for it, and a really good way to do it, too. In Thor: The Dark World he got his arms torn off, so that'd probably put him in Hel. I'd like Thor 3 to be a huge Asgard event film. Thanos will play a part in it too, even just a post-credits scene to acquire the Tesseract.
Inhuman - 7/27/2014, 7:05 PM
All I know is that Enchantress, Executioner, and Surtur better be in Thor 3
NeoBaggins - 7/27/2014, 7:14 PM
Holy shit. Someone else shares my passion for THOR 3. I've been writing a script for it to post for kicks. Interesting to see what someone else is thinking about it.

@Inhuman

I agree.
FordEl - 7/27/2014, 7:16 PM
I dont like the title. Its gramatically incorrect. The Quest of Chaos sounds better if fixed but doesnt make any sense. But good job your pitch.
Interestein - 7/27/2014, 7:23 PM
The past two THOR film's are the lowest ranked MCU films for me, they're going to need to up their game with this final(?) instalment.
FordEl - 7/27/2014, 7:34 PM
@MarkyMark

Love has no boundaries. Your argument is pretty stupid even if you think he belongs with Sif.
McGee - 7/27/2014, 7:36 PM
Great article DrDoom!

Now...that being said...

You could learn a thing or two about pitching ideas from Sir Patrick Stewart!

0megaDaGod - 7/27/2014, 7:44 PM
CaptainMexico - 7/27/2014, 7:50 PM
Ya I thought it was pretty cool. The opening scene with Ulik I would like to see for sure, the trolls need some love in MCU for sure. I like that Loki is once again the main villain and his big play for all the chips. Good story dude!
Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 7:50 PM
Well done! Some great ideas here. Love the inclusion of Hela and Mangog and further exploring the relationship with Sif. Thor definitely needs a worthy foe like Mangog to truly test his mettle and show his battle prowess. I think Doctor Strange preceding Thor will actually allow for some of these more mystical elements like the realms of Hel and Niffleheim to come into play.

Personally I feel Balder needs to make an appearance. I can envision a plot line that explains his absence by revealing past treachery by Loki that resulted in Balder's imprisonment at the hand of Karnilla Queen of the Norns. I also envision Loki bolstering his position by developing a alliance with her as well Geirrodur and possibly others. I'd like to see Thor have to make a difficult choice - a sacrifice that involves giving up his love for Jane to save her life and Asgard's in heroic fashion - perhaps as a result of a gambit devised by Hela in exchange for some other boon.

They need to keep the end of the universe plot of Surtur for a future film - especially after the stakes of the last one - and keep it smaller and personal the stage being the throne of Asgard and have it culminate in a climactic battle for supremacy in the wake of Loki's treachery. LOTR/Star Wars mashup style but not just swords and lasers. Something on the scope of Oeming's Ragnarok. Involve all the races and creatures of the Nine realms and utilize beings with elemental attacks like the frost giants and fire demons of Muspelheim and brutish power of creatures like Ulik and the trolls. Imagine the Battle of Pelennor Fields on steroids. It could be so freaking awesome.
dannramm113 - 7/27/2014, 7:52 PM
Where's the full penetration sex scene between Thor and Sif?
CapitanAmerika2 - 7/27/2014, 7:54 PM
@DrDoom: Wow Doom! Once again a great pitch that is definitely worthy of being put on the big screen. Can you please make this a continuous series where you write your pitches for upcoming movies? You might even get me excited for movies I'm not even excited about like Ant-Man or Black Panther or Doctor Strange.
NoPhucksGiven - 7/27/2014, 7:58 PM
@DrDoom
This was extremely well done my friend. You need to send this to marvel studios. Perhaps you might get lucky and they take some of your ideas.

Just to piggy back on some of your ideas. Loki(odin) at some point needs to be shown giving the infinity gantlet to Thanos (perhaps in a post-credit scene). We know that its in Odins vault. Also the executioner should be there as well.and we need a easter egg of Muspelheim.

The way this ends could perfectly set up Thor 4: Ragnarok.
CookieKid247 - 7/27/2014, 8:08 PM
These are really good. I personally want Ego the Living Planet.
CookieKid247 - 7/27/2014, 8:10 PM
Only a couple of thumbs away from landing on the main! Help me please.
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Ragnaroknroll - 7/27/2014, 8:14 PM
A benefit of having Thor on the throne could set up a Reigning style storyline in a future film. That would be amazing.
aveune - 7/27/2014, 8:14 PM
Nice... I would not mind seeing red skull and a few others in a cage somewhere near Odin
TheOverlord - 7/27/2014, 8:18 PM
Doom, I am in awe. Great job. I'm almost sure to be disappointed now by the actual thing!
MyloSteamwitz - 7/27/2014, 8:23 PM
Can he return for Avengers 3 if he is King?
GliderMan - 7/27/2014, 8:59 PM
@Mylosteamwitz ABSOLUTLEY! And this is what should happen.
Scorpion8125 - 7/27/2014, 9:08 PM

Great job Doc.

Very well thought out.

I'd like to think I could produce something like that if I weren't so drunk and lazy.

Luther - 7/27/2014, 9:15 PM
You know what, I'm one to 96% of the time HATE fan-fic ideas. Absolutely despise them and their impetuous, dizzying, and VERY depressing geeky-ness. Among the profusion of bad ideas -- generally ones that DO NOT compliment the world it's trying so hard to associate itself with -- coupled with the inclusion of WAY too many major characters at once, forced humor, over-used tropes and cliches, and usually topped off with some of the most horrendous, laughable, and downright lazy sub-titles you can ever lay your eyes upon, surely ONE somewhere, has to be good; and shines like a diamond in the rough. THIS, as cheesy as it sounds, is one of those diamonds! You caught my attention immediately with "Chaos Quest". People would generally use something like "Shadow of Asgard" or some similar corn-ball shit. But this...was not only great in story, it was well written, and marketable! Easily I can see this fit perfectly into what MCU is doing. LOVED it!
neopunch - 7/27/2014, 9:17 PM
I have a feeling we will see Thor's hammer broken.
Berserker187 - 7/27/2014, 9:19 PM
Thors hammer will be given to a girl.
defenderofthefaith - 7/27/2014, 9:27 PM
Thor with Sif is boring. It's much more interesting having him with Jane. For one, Sif is a warrior and can handle herself so it takes away most of Thor's vulnerability while Jane is human and would be at high risk being with Thor. For Avengers purposes we need Thor to still be interested in being Midgard's protector. With Jane that's a must, not so much with Sif. What needs to happen with Jane is she needs to become Asgardian. This way Thor 3 can stay strictly off Midgard. As an Asgardian she can be granted immortality and have the powers of gods. Now with Odin's whereabouts currently unknown this might be a little difficult but they need to find a way to make it happen. Sif on the other hand is much more interesting as a warrior. It would feel out of place if she all of a sudden becomes a romantic lead. I like her tough and not all lovey dovey. I don't mind her falling love I just hope it's not her main focus.
GliderMan - 7/27/2014, 9:47 PM
@defenderofthefaith There's the jealousy issue with Sif, and that needs to be explored.
TexasTwoFace - 7/27/2014, 9:50 PM
I like Thor being with Sif but that seems highly unlikely. Personally I would like to see Thor 3 take place mostly on earth and see the first appearances of the Absorbing Man and/or the Wrecking Crew. Or it might be nice to see Radioactive Man introduced because it could start the beginnings of a Thunderbolts movie which would be nice to see before DC inevitably do Suicide Squad. But I was thinking for Thor 3 they might want a movie with Ares as the villain and introduce the concept of the Olympians and the character of Hercules as a new ally of Thor who could also eventually be in a Incredible Hulk movie as an ally that wouldn't require expensive CGI.
DrDoom - 7/27/2014, 9:55 PM
@defenderofthefaith

In my opinion, I actually do prefer Thor and Jane as a couple over Thor and Sif. I feel that Thor being with Jane is thematically and dramatically a better option, for it instills a sense of WHY Thor is so much more concerned about the universe beyond the borders of his home realm than your average Asgardian. That's why, if you notice, I explicitly did not have Thor get together with Sif or Jane at the end, because I do want to explore the relationship and jealousy issues that Sif has, but not give a clear cut solution showing them getting married, or something equally tripe. I wanted to make the important thing about this story the fact that Thor takes the throne out of a sense of duty, with the open possibility of romance with both Jane and Sif to be resolved in future installments.

I also wanted to prove that you can make a story that is both compelling and pushes the universe forward WITHOUT killing off any major characters, hero or villain. As for everyone who has commented so far, thank you for taking the time to read my work and tell me what you think of it ^_^

Dandy - 7/27/2014, 10:02 PM
Nice write up Doom!

I'd personally really like to see the Enchantress and the Executioner.
smlaude - 7/27/2014, 10:09 PM
sounds like jane n thor break up in avengers 2
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