The Amazing Spider-Man 2: Pros and Cons

I know what you are thinking. How can someone make a pros and cons for a movie that hasn't even started filming. It's simple. Combine information and opinions from The Amazing Spider-Man with information of the sequel.

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By Nick Salinski - 12/10/2012
Let's begin, shall we? I say, let's start with the cons.

Villain



I'm gonna get my biggest gripe out of the way. I hate this choice of villain. He's not even an interesting character and I fear the story for the second movie won't be good because of even a flaw like a villain choice. The characters and story needs to benefit from each other. Yes, it's nice to have Harry and Mary Jane introduced in the sequel. But, how would a story benefit from a character with no layers to him? This is where I get confused on how people are more excited for Electro over the villain in movie 1, The Lizard. The Lizard is a villain that is the situation where the character and story benefit each other. In the case with, The Amazing Spider-Man. While it does have many flaws, it's still a good movie with a interesting villain (get passed the cartoony motive, they were sticking to the comics) and the story and the character worked and benefited from each other. Electro is one I can't wrap my head around and how he is even a favorite. But, that's personal opinion.

Hit or Miss writers



It's not that I don't like Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. I do like them. My biggest complaint mostly comes from Revenge of the Fallen (which was a huge let down). The 2009 Star Trek film, People Like Us and (based off of the teaser trailer) Star Trek Into Darkness is what gives me hope. But again, it goes back to the last time they did a sequel to a hit film. Why isn't it in the pro's then? Well again, despite the fact that I listed more pros than cons, the con over powers the pros for me in this situation.

Weakest of the Spidey films



Now, everything has potential and I pray with all my heart that this movie doesn't suck. For me, it all goes back to the story and the characters benefiting from one another. In the case of, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 it's the fact that I don't know how a cinematic story can help benefit the film with the one of the characters being Electro unless they completely redo his character because he is such a flat villain.

Now, let's get to the pros.

Strong Cast



Whether you like, The Amazing Spider-Man, or not. There is no denying the impressive, strong ensemble it had. It's probably (from a personal stand point) the strongest cast I've seen for a comicbook film. The sequel is keeping it going with bringing in the likes of: Shailene Woodley, Dane Dehaan and Jamie Foxx (he is still an odd choice for a villain and deserves better than crappy, Electro). That's one thing, The Amazing Spider-Man got more right than anything and the sequel is probably going to be the same.

Marc Webb returns



Clearly, I think he did a great job. Especially, seeing how I feel, The Amazing Spider-Man is the best spidey flick yet. While it was his second feature film and his first action film, I think he did great. The strongest parts of the film was obvious, the chemistry between the actors and where it's just character scenes. It's the strongest part of the film, the heart and soul of the it. The fact that he is returning to direct the sequel is a good sign. It shows we will get more character development as well as more emotional scenes. One can pray for more action scenes. It's the heart of the film, the emotion and the powerful acting from the actors that makes it a strong movie on an emotional level. I feel he can bring out the best in an actor, performance wise.

I know this might come off as a pointless article to some of you. But, I wanted to get my opinion out there. What do ya think? Comment below and be respectful about it.
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Kalel219 - 12/10/2012, 8:41 PM
The cast for ASM was hit and miss for me, mostly due to script. Why cast Sally Fields if her character barely has anything to do?
DrDoom - 12/10/2012, 9:12 PM
I deny the alleged "impressive, strong ensemble" the first movie had.
Jollem - 12/10/2012, 9:54 PM
tasm was amazing. can't wait for the sequel
EdgyOutsider - 12/11/2012, 12:42 AM
@Battlin: I have deep respect for ya man but, I will have to disagree. I won't say that the battle on top of Oscorp and the sewer battle were top notch but, the high school fight was really well put together and is definitely my favorite fight in a Spidey flick. I won't disrespect the other Spidey flicks, cause I grew up on the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films. My problem with the first Spidey trilogy isn't that it has bad acting, poor directing or writing or anything like that. My problem is they zipped through Peter in high school, he wasn't much of a nerd (although its implied) and there was no emotional ground to them. That's the biggest reason I prefer The Amazing Spider-Man over the rest (besides stronger performances). I feel it had a more emotional ground and (on a personal level) I can relate to this Peter Parker more than the adult Peter that was portrayed in the original trilogy. I feel there was stronger chemistry, stronger romance and you care for the characters and you actually give a damn when Uncle Ben died (I mean no disrespect to Cliff Robertson). I'm not saying that it is a perfect movie. But, I find it to have stuck closer to the source material, again it has an emotional ground and (on a personal level) I can relate to this Peter Parker more.

Also, I don't mind more Peter and less Spider-Man. Yes, I did go to see Spider-Man but, I like seeing more Peter. It, again gives the film an emotional carry throughout the film and you care for the characters. I wanted to look forward to the sequel but that has been spoiled because of Electro until a trailer can change my mind. But, hey opinions are like assholes.
AC1 - 12/11/2012, 4:24 AM
I loved Amazing Spider-Man, it was my favourite CBM this year (although I haven't seen Dredd yet, and didn't bother with Ghost Rider since the first one blew chunks). I really liked the action sequences (the school fight and the final battle atop Oscorp tower especially), and I thought Webb hit the perfect balance between action and character, since I've always felt that, with Spider-Man, the action should always be second to the character stories. It was nice, and very refreshing, to see such an understated superhero movie, because this one was all about the relationships between the characters, and the hero vs villain stuff was more of a sub plot. It was a different approach to making a superhero movie, and I really enjoyed it.
AC1 - 12/11/2012, 4:29 AM
And I really don't get the hate for Sally Field as Aunt May? Again, I liked how this film made her more believable, not only in terms of age as Peter's aunt, but that she was more than just a plot device to make Peter feel guilty. There were the seeds of a genuine relationship between the two characters, although I think it was slightly underdeveloped. And I'm also glad they made her somewhat smart and strong unlike most versions of May - there's a suggestion that she knows Peter is Spider-Man, which is my favourite dynamic between the two characters (it's happened in the mainstream comics before, and became a huge part of the Ultimate Spider-Man comics too, where she eventually found out for definite).

It seems The Amazing Spider-Man managed to find the good things from Ultimate Spider-Man and incorporated them into the classic story to make this movie.
AC1 - 12/11/2012, 5:39 AM
It was a bit too open ended, but I think they must have realized during post production that they wanted to go in another direction with the sequel, and some of the stuff in the movie may have contradicted their new plans, so they re-edited the film (e.g. deleting Dr Ratha's sewer death scene means he can return in the sequel, and they may have plans for Uncle Ben's killer in a future movie... I also think Peter's parents were only supposed to be a way of getting Peter to Oscorp to be bitten by the spider, and during filming decided they wanted to make the characters more important to sequels).

It seems to me that close to the end of filming, they changed their mind on the idea for the sequel, and sloppily edited the film to make their new sequel work better. I do think the editing in the film is probably the worst part of it. It's just poor sequel baiting. Having said that, I loved the film for what it was, and found it easy to look past the sloppy editing since the characters were so engaging to me (especially Andrew Garfield as Peter and Emma Stone as Gwen... Martin Sheen was also a stand out for me as Ben, and I really enjoyed his chemistry with Andrew and Sally Field).
Rohit9876 - 12/11/2012, 7:41 AM
The Main reason SONY is going on with Electro because Spider-man rogue gallery has got nearly Approx 35 villains which all cant be seen in silver screen but atleast few of them has to be shown..Spidey has got many boss like villains like kingpin, doc ock, green goblin,tombstone so there has to be someone who has to do fighting work..lets say Electro..may be this is the reason.
Spideyguy94 - 12/11/2012, 7:51 AM
@LEVITIKUZ that's one persons opinion, and the action was good. Watch the movie before judging it which you clearly are. Oh by the way, why did you write an article defending shailene woodleys casting if you think this looks like shit? That's like me defending a game mode that was put on call of duty even though I think it looks terrible.
EdgyOutsider - 12/11/2012, 9:17 AM
Rohit9876: I still doesn't change the fact that they could've picked any other villain to be the bad guy in the sequel. I would personally rather see Shocker over Electro, which is sad considering that I'm not much of a Shocker fan at all. I've never been a fan of thug like villains. I prefer villains with depth and layers to them.

LEVITIKUZ: I respect ya but, the whole action thing is of opinion. While there is about as much action in The Amazing Spider-Man as there is in Ghost Rider and Ghost Rider 2 (not combined), the action in TASM is good and a hell of alot better than in either Ghost Rider film. I mean no disrespect but watch the movie and form an opinion for yourself. If you don't like Spider-Man then non of the films are for ya. If you prefer more action packed Spider-Man then go back to the original trilogy (which I still love despite my preference of TASM). This is more of a relationship and character driven movie. Don't let anyone make you think that, The Amazing Spider-Man is a darker movie cause it truly isn't. It's about as light hearted as the original, maybe even more light hearted and kid friendly.
EdgyOutsider - 12/11/2012, 1:57 PM
FlashVenom: Has no one read any of my reasons on any articles about this for why Electro is such a crap villain? Nothing against ya man, but I find Electro to be boring. I don't like villains who can have cool fights with the hero. I like a villain with depth, with layers to them. I'll use, The Lizard for an example. He's my favorite because he isn't a totally evil person. He's more or less, two characters for a long time. Dr.Connors was an army surgeon who turned into a scientist that specializes in herpetology. He becomes fascinated with how some reptiles can regenerate missing limbs. All he wants is his arm back. He makes a serum and tests it on a rabbit and it works successfully. He tries it on himself and becomes a humanoid reptile. The Lizard has silly motives, I know. But, he's a character that you care about. I prefer villains that have depth and it's not hard to see why they are the way they are. Electro has bland powers (in my opinion, it's a bit cliche) and he has no personality and no reason for why he is evil. He's just a common thief. No depth or anything. He is such a horrible villain choice.
EdgyOutsider - 12/11/2012, 10:15 PM
LEVITIKUZ: I found the comment "Anyone who thinks this is better than Spider-Man 2 is stupid" okay, that is a little bit offensive to me because I do like it more than Spider-Man 2. While, I do like Spider-Man 2, I never really felt the impact that other people have had. The performances were good but nothing special, which is the same for the original and the third. The visual effects for Spider-Man 2 are the worst in the series. Seriously, it has not aged well. The acting was average and the villain felt (in personality) a family type version of Norman Osborn who didn't go completely nuts. I know that's truly not who Doc Ock is but, that's what it feels like.

To the general audience, I can see how they find similarities between Norman Osborn, Doc Ock and Dr.Connors. My thing is, Dr.Connors never truly goes nuts. Just like in the comics, The Lizard forms his own personality. While, he isn't as interesting to watch as Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin, I still find him (completely unbaised way) to be the best interpretation and most fun villain to watch. Personally again, I find it to be a stronger Spider-Man film. It's not a stronger film overall because of it feeling like more of a lead into a sequel but, it feels more like a Spider-Man movie with more focus on Peter than on Spider-Man which I actually prefer. I don't think TASM deserves the hate it gets. You'll ruin the movie for yourself if you compare it to the original films. It's not perfect by any means. But, it's a really good movie, it's fun, it has (in my opinion) the strongest performances in a comicbook film and it's definitley more emotional (Sorry Bats). This is my opinion though. I can't wait (kind of) to see the sequel. The main turn off being the villain. I can't stand the villain choice.
Spideyguy94 - 12/12/2012, 5:29 AM
@LEVITIKUZ I agree that woodleys casting could be great, I haven't seen her in anything but i consider myself an optimist so I think she'll be great. But honestly dude you need to go into this movie with an open mind. And you need to calm down man, your comments come off as really aggressive and sometimes offensive, I'm not insulting you I'm just saying you should chill out.
Spideyguy94 - 12/12/2012, 6:55 AM
@LEVITIKUZ and if you're going to deduct points for TASM for being too close to the first raimi movie, then you need to deduct Man Of Steel points for being too similar to the donnor movie.
EdgyOutsider - 12/12/2012, 10:25 AM
fangz: Actually, I'd rather see Shocker (which sounds hypocritical, I know) or Vulture over Electro. Next to Rhino and a couple of other Spider-Man villains, Electro is among the worst in my opinion.
manymade1 - 12/13/2012, 8:47 AM
@ Spideyguy94 Man of Steel came out already? O.O
PeterParker1991 - 12/19/2012, 1:15 PM
I'm excited for the new movie. But one thing I will say is that it is getting tiresome hearing all the complaints because of X,Y,z. I got news for ya: THE DAMN MOVIE HASN'T COME OUT YET! No one even knows the story other than Electro is gonna be the villain. Marc Webb and Andrew Garfield have said that its a good script and I don't know about you people but I trust that they know their material. Seriously

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