OPINION: How BATMAN V SUPERMAN Will Improve On MAN OF STEEL's Shortcomings

Let's take a look at what we know so far from the upcoming film Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice and speculate how it will improve the aspects of Man Of Steel that came up short.

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By GiantNerd - 8/15/2014

 
Hey CBM! Now that Man Of Steel is out of the way and BvS: Dawn of Justice is next up for the DC Cinematic Universe, I wanted to analyze what the upcoming film might bring to the table and speculate how it may improve what I consider to be weaknesses in what they've already established in MOS.



What We Know So Far


Let's take a quick look at some things we already know. Considering Zack Snyder will be directing BvS: Dawn of Justice we can expect the visuals to look amazing. Hans Zimmer is set to return as well, so it's safe to assume the score to the upcoming movie will be spectacular once again. Henry Cavill and Amy Adams are back as Clark and Lois of course. The big newcomer will be Ben Affleck taking the role of the legendary character Bruce Wayne/Batman. Another significant addition is Gal Godot as the Amazon princess Wonder Woman, who will be joining the cast in what is believed to be an extended cameo that could be compared to the supporting role Scarlett Johansson played in Iron Man 2. The one adversary we know of for the film so far is Lex Luthor who will be portrayed by Jesse Eisenberg. As for the plot, Snyder has referred to drawing inspiration from the remarkable graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns as he's been quoted saying “We’re not adapting this thing(The Dark Knight Returns), but it is the thing that will help us tell that story.”Even the footage shown at San Diego Comic Con depicted Batman wearing armor that looks very similar to the suit he wore when he faces off against Superman in TDKR.
 

 


How This Will Improve On Man Of Steel
 
-Character Development

To me it seemed like some of the characters in MOS seemed almost soulless and underdeveloped. As if they had no personality whatsoever. The unfortunate thing is one of these characters was Kal El himself. The way he carried himslef throughout the movie was so somber and depressing it was almost astonishing that this was a movie about Superman. Just because he's an alien doesn't mean he can't have any definitive personality traits. I think this can be improved on in BvS becuase he'll be able to play off of another fellow hero in Batman. The parallels between the two should give Clark a concrete identity and help the viewer have a destinct idea of his character.
 
The Daily Planet in Man of Steel Batman V Superman Supposedly Set Two Years After Man of Steel

 At the end of MOS we seen that Clark has been given a job at The Daily Planet. According to numerous news articles a statue has been seen on the set of BvS and is being presented in Superman's honor by the mayor of Metropolis. The scene is rumored to take place roughly two years after the catastrophe in MOS, meaning that Clark will have been using the dual personality aspect of his character that we all are familiar with for a while which should make people like myself who had issues with the lack of insight to why and what he was doing in MOS. This should give us a further look at his desire to coexist with the humans of Earth in turn making his character more rich.

-Story
 

The story in MOS was also lacking in my opinion. It was essentially all about Clark wandering aimlessly from place to place until Zod shows up and begins trying to save his race of Kryptonians by obtaining the codex (a device that contains the DNA of trillions of people from his home planet Krypton) that was intertwined with Kal El's blood before he was sent to Earth. We don't know much about the story in BvS yet but it will almost certainly be added some spice by introducing Bruce Wayne/Batman who will already be well versed in his crime fighting career and as Batman will bring his no nonsense attitude to a fairly new hero in Superman. Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor will contribute some much needed personality to clash with as well. In this version of Lex it's rumored that he will be a young businessman with a giant ego and with the casting of Eisenberg, it's more than likely that he'll bring his quick wit along with some hateable smugness to liven things up. I also have a feeling Lois will do some investigating into the desires of Luthor and his company which should give her a more to do in BvS compared to her role in MOS. As for Princess Diana, we're pretty much in the dark as to how she's connected to the story.

-Action
 

You're probably thinking, "How can the action get better than what we saw in MOS?". The answer is, very easily. Hear me out. I do think the oil refinery rescue in the ocean was well done along with the destruction of the world engine. It was the all out brawls that Zod/The Kryptonians had througout the movie that became drawn out because the redundant punches being exchanged seemed to be causing no damage except to everything around them. It began to feel empty. Now as we know, The Dark Knight Returns will be an influence to some degree. The great thing about this is that the armored suit Batman is equipped with to take on Superman in the comic has various creative gadgets that keep the fight interesting. I think it really will be amazing to see this in a live action feature film and bringing in a very skilled and crafty human hero such as Batman will make every blow have some stakes and it will turn out more thrilling. 

Clip from the DC animated movie The Dark Knight Returns
 

 


Again this is just my own speculation. What do you guys think? Do you agree? Or am I out of my mind and Man of Steel has no need for improvement? Comment below. Let's get it poppin.


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Klone - 8/15/2014, 1:26 PM
I agree with everything. Your criticisms are spot on and I am definitely more hopeful about S/B.
Klone - 8/15/2014, 1:27 PM
/randomness

New Gods film! New Gods film! NEW GODS!
BatManHeisenberg - 8/15/2014, 1:29 PM
I loved Man of Steel but I think BvS will vastly improve because of Terrio.
COREY6487 - 8/15/2014, 1:30 PM
the only thing i loved about MOS was the fights and visuals... i know im gonna be really disappointed by this movie if there aint a massive battle like zod.

and seeing what superman did in mos its gonna be [frick]ing stupid... how can batman fight that?
Klone - 8/15/2014, 1:37 PM
@COREY

Because the plot demands it.
TheDudeRusty - 8/15/2014, 1:40 PM
If the GOTG could fight Ronan with an IS then Batman can face Superman.
Doopie - 8/15/2014, 1:49 PM
nice article. I just hope it isn't shit. I don't see how it can be to be honest
Gusto - 8/15/2014, 1:49 PM


McGee - 8/15/2014, 1:53 PM
GiantNerd....Gusto wants to know if you think we'll see more of Henry Cavill shirtless....yeah. That's what he asked me to ask you. Don't contact him to see if this is true because he'll just deny it....yeah.
Gusto - 8/15/2014, 1:53 PM
If McGee can not be locked up
on multiple morals charges...
anything's possible.
MantiniuMan - 8/15/2014, 1:54 PM
I too Loved MOS and see the sequel as adding to its awesomeness....

Question

If this film was voted by the fans as CBM of the year on this site,where are the editorials on:
How THOR 3 can improve on its predecessor Thor2 shortcomings!
or
How IM4 can improve on its predecessor IM3 Shortcomings!
or
How can Wolverine 4 improve on its predecessor the Wolverine Shortcomings!

I say this as these films came out the same year as MOS,and all three of these films votes combined didn't add up to the votes for MOS in the poll greatest CBM of 2013,voted by the fans on this site,and on ComicVine,IGN etc,etc....

Therefore this article is bias,and proves why I am here!
PietroMaximoff - 8/15/2014, 1:55 PM
It's funny though, because I think this movie will have the reverse effect on the average moviegoer. We comic book lovers will (most likely) see it as an improvement in the Superman storyline because we understand the hero's rich history, especially involving Batman. However, I know SEVERAL people that are not interested in comic books that love movies and comic book movies and are refusing to see this because "How could Batman beat Superman? That's [frick]ing stupid." The ones that haven't really questioned it will probably go in with a Nolan Batman mindset: Batman is a rich guy who became a superhero. Not the world's greatest combatant and detective. We hardly saw that in TDK trilogy. It was a great take on the character, but it's clearly not what we'll see in this movie. Therein lies the problem. There are potentially two sets of moviegoers that will probably be confused or annoyed with this take on Batman because all they know are the shitty 90's films and TDK, not to mention the fact that they just saw Superman kill a being equally as powerful as himself and is going to be brought down by a powerless human in a suit. Instead of an improvement, I truly think a lot of people won't get it.
Pheezmatic - 8/15/2014, 1:56 PM
I just hope we get a pants less Affleck

...all decked out in his superman fighting armor....just no pants...yeah.
GiantNerd - 8/15/2014, 1:56 PM
@Gusto

My sources tell me he will not be shirtless in BvS but he will in fact be pantsless for 43.8% of the film.
GiantNerd - 8/15/2014, 1:57 PM
Dammit @Pheezmatic you ruined my joke!
Gusto - 8/15/2014, 1:58 PM
I was concerned about that, Giant!
Gusto - 8/15/2014, 1:59 PM
Not shirtless!
Snyder, prepare for a
very angry letter!!!
Gusto - 8/15/2014, 2:00 PM
Ah...bar time!
Have a good weekend, whackjobs!
Darktower - 8/15/2014, 2:00 PM
i dont think there was any thing wrong with the movie to be honest.
MOS was the best CMB last year!!
ppl think is was bad because of al those lame n blind reasons like death n destruction n zods death...
MercwithMouth - 8/15/2014, 2:01 PM
"I too Loved MOS and see the sequel as adding to its awesomeness....

Question

If this film was voted by the fans as CBM of the year on this site,where are the editorials on:
How THOR 3 can improve on its predecessor Thor2 shortcomings!
or
How IM4 can improve on its predecessor IM3 Shortcomings!
or
How can Wolverine 4 improve on its predecessor the Wolverine Shortcomings!

I say this as these films came out the same year as MOS,and all three of these films votes combined didn't add up to the votes for MOS in the poll greatest CBM of 2013,voted by the fans on this site,and on ComicVine,IGN etc,etc....

Therefore this article is bias,and proves why I am here!"

Hey, idiot...

This is an editorial...which translates to an OPINION piece. Of course personal bias comes into play, that's the whole point!

And you are here because every time you find out that someone had issues with, or didn't like MoS, you cry a little, and die a little inside.
cipher - 8/15/2014, 2:01 PM
One of my favourite Supes stories was the third (I think it was the third) issue of Byrne's Man of Steel run. Supes' first encounter with Bats.

If they can nail the dynamics between the two, then I'm a happy man.
cipher - 8/15/2014, 2:02 PM
Later, Gus.
blackandyellow - 8/15/2014, 2:02 PM
Show a hardcore sex scene with Clark and Lois. Afterwards, they're both laying in bed catching their breath when suddenly Lois transforms into Martian Manhunter.
cipher - 8/15/2014, 2:03 PM
I'm honestly feeling pretty optimistic about Gadot. Anyway, thumbs up, dude.
Klone - 8/15/2014, 2:03 PM
@cipher

*dynamic is ruined*

*cipher proceeds to hiss and immediately wither up and die miserable, alone and cold*
Klone - 8/15/2014, 2:04 PM
@blackandyellow

At which point Superman eyes widen and he smiles. They do it eight more times.
cipher - 8/15/2014, 2:04 PM
GiantNerd- Ask your sources for measurements of the Batsuit's crotch region.

My sanity depends on it.
cipher - 8/15/2014, 2:05 PM
I will torture my liver, Klone. I'll go to town on the f*cking thing.
cipher - 8/15/2014, 2:06 PM
I mean, I'll probably do that anyway, but at least I'll have an excuse.
Klone - 8/15/2014, 2:06 PM
Apparently valid and well thought out criticisms of a film are invalid if a poll on an website is in favor of said film or the competitors films of the same genre are not brutally criticised either. Do not try to make any claims that the films of the competitors are irrelevant and do not take away the issues of said film because apparently that argument is faulty because of... reasons.
MercwithMouth - 8/15/2014, 2:07 PM
@Klone

cipher won't die alone! I won't allow it! I'll be there with him, pouring whisky for both of us. And if he doesn't have enough strength to lift the glass, I'll do it for him!
Klone - 8/15/2014, 2:07 PM
"reasons" was that last work of that comment and I accidentally clicked onto the feed and ended up on Reasonnnn's profile... the Universe is telling me something.
MercwithMouth - 8/15/2014, 2:08 PM
"Apparently valid and well thought out criticisms of a film are invalid if a poll on an website is in favor of said film or the competitors films of the same genre are not brutally criticised either. Do not try to make any claims that the films of the competitors are irrelevant and do not take away the issues of said film because apparently that argument is faulty because of... reasons."

...Aliens. It's always aliens.

And quoted for truth.
yossarian - 8/15/2014, 2:08 PM
I don't know what's more disturbing, B&Y's arm hair or tattoo choice.
Klone - 8/15/2014, 2:09 PM
You dare try and have cipher die not alone and I'll flay you and make a Superman cosplay suit out of it.
GiantNerd - 8/15/2014, 2:11 PM
@Cipher

It's rumored, and don't quote me on this, that the measurements will be roughly 3inch x 8inch.

This is actually a legit piece of the Bat Armor's crotch plate though.

MantiniuMan - 8/15/2014, 2:16 PM
Mercwithamouth

First You're hostility amuses me...I can taste your tears while you taste tate.
Secondly what am I upset about,its another MOS Article 5 Marvel films later,its so beautiful right now,what would be better Opening weekend of GOTG,we get a MOS Article,its like turning air into gold.....a miracle.

All the articles with the majority of these pages on this site are DCCU articles,and the best part we got 8 More announcements....Imagine the threads when we get two announcements,So stoked.....

Me Bitter....Feck No I think its Hilarious!

Back to the article:

Loved MOS give me that with BATMAN,guaranteed CBM of the year,just like MOS was CBM of the year as voted by the fans,by this site....
blackandyellow - 8/15/2014, 2:19 PM
I'm proud of my back hair. It provides an extra layer of padding when I sleep.
GiantNerd - 8/15/2014, 2:19 PM
@MercwithMouth

This is an editorial...which translates to an OPINION piece.

Word. That's the point. I wanted to express my excitement for BvS because I was personally let down by MOS and I think they're going to fix the problems I had with it.
Alphadog - 8/15/2014, 2:19 PM
I have massive expectations for this movie. Zack Snyder is a great director that will absolutely make the movie memorable and hopefully amazing to witness and they not only have an aclaimed writer but they also have a great story to tell. This could be a masterpeice if nobody ruins it.
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