An Avengers E-Mail Part One

One CBM.com user's interesting e-mail voicing their concerns on Marvels Avengers film.

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By Hawksblueyes - 8/21/2011
I received the following e-mail from one of our users recently and I believe it raises some valid points/questions. I asked the user (in response to the e-mail) where it came from. They informed me (in another e-mail that I may post in the future) that it was written by them in an effort to express their concerns as a lifelong Avengers fan about the upcoming film. The user also informed me that I could post it if I wished. I thought with all the hype surrounding The Avengers filming over the last week, the following may prove an excellent topic for discussion.

It's over. The 1st Marvel Avengers film is about aliens. All the countless earth-based villains and Marvel Studios went straight for an alien invasion. So after this movie we'd have learned the the Shield initiative was started in the 40's for an alien invasion in 2012. And that a handful of Americans and a Nordic god are able to stop a race so advanced it found earth before we found them.

Tell me, for a Marvel movie universe viewer, where does Marvel go to from there? Where do The Avengers go? The brand new group, of virtually brand new heroes stops the Skrulls without the F4. I'm so incredibly disappointed. Surely Shield would have had international terrorism on their agenda before anticipating an alien invasion - IN CLEVELAND, USA!!!

Why couldn't Shield stop a powerful international organization that has been developing since WW2? Put some super villains and powerful criminals together, and no wonder Shield will need to assemble a team to fight what they've been monitoring.

At the end of that, they can reflect and say, "wow, as a team we're pretty useful. We should get together and stop earthly super villains more often, they stand no chance..." only to realize that their next foe will be bigger and badder than any earthly opposition.

It would give them preparation before they attempted to thwart a very powerful and organized race. Having a young Thor, a recently thawed Cap, 2 mission Iron Man and a few skilled humans aren't going to make the Skrulls look very organized and powerful at all.

Instead, while the movie spends time addressing the Avenger initiative and integrating all the big characters, less and less time has been left for an alien invasion. Is Whedon going to spend time explaining why all these big egos are in one movie, or is he going to rush into an orchestrated attack.

In a movie, something has to give. Either their is less time for character development, or there is less time for a fully executed alien invasion. Is anyone else seeing the issues I am? In a sequel you'd have more time to prep an alien invasion. We've seen 2 Iron Man movies, Hulk, Thor and Captain America, and there is so little mention or sign of aliens in the apparent universe, for them to just rock up in Avengers would be bizarre.

There is a distinct lack of urgency from Fury in his cameos to suggest that there is an imminent e.t. attack. Considering they are cocky and coy over recruiting, surely every man is needed regardless, when it comes to an alien invasion. Earth's safety seems less important than the reputation of Shield.

Everyone is very excited about the Kree or the Skrulls, etc. I would be too, if I had sat down to the Thor, Iron Man, Hulk and Cap movies and was subtly hinted at that aliens were going to be the main antagonist. But there wasn't. I got the impression it was a bunch of anti-western terrorists working for a group called 10 rings, that may have been working toward releasing the Mandarin.

A team would be needed, not just Iron Man to combat an established terrorist cell. And Loki playing tricks behind the scenes with Hulk. The big characters would have been thrown together to fight something they could afford to waste time with in order to gel together before combating Hulk..

Why is a super soldier thawed out for an alien invasion whilst recently acquiring the support of one god? And when you have Thor throwing blessed hammers to kill aliens, why is Hawkeye involved? His arrows match Thor's hammer? Captain's shield is as useful as Tony's armour.. You see with earthly villains, they could all be called upon.

Nick Fury is going to send a thawed out WW2 soldier to fight alongside the god of lightning to fight an army of aliens. I must be honest, the thought of all this excites me, because never before has anyone seen these iconic characters depicted together in a special effects film, but seriously, the story is going to really bug me once the novelty action rush fades.




Hawksblueyes: I was under the impression from our correspondence that this user was not fond of having their name attached to this write up. If I am wrong about that please let me know and I will post it in the article.

As you can see, this is titled PART ONE. If you would like to see the follow up posted in the future let me know in the comment section below.
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logunvadercap - 8/21/2011, 7:13 AM
it's the Ultimates story-line. which i think is awesome. where can they go from here? i don't know, maybe Thanos or Ultron?! there are plenty of GREAT stories for the sequels. at least they are making an Avengers movie. and it will be badass! stop your fanboy whining!
logunvadercap - 8/21/2011, 7:15 AM
@tea- wanna trade pics? you should see me in my leather thong and ball-gag. my gerbil loves it!
Hawksblueyes - 8/21/2011, 7:20 AM
That's alright tea. It's not like those aren't already on Facebook. ;P
Coldblood6 - 8/21/2011, 7:21 AM
Wow, that was a rant of incomprehensible tripe.

Thanx for putting up on front page so I could be deceived into thinking it was important and wasting all this extra time I had reading it.
Coldblood6 - 8/21/2011, 7:22 AM
Who knows what I would have done with that extra time I had; I might have indulged in sinful masturbation.
spidey1994 - 8/21/2011, 7:22 AM
It sounds like this guy is just nitpicking the movie before it's even out.
MrYurMomm - 8/21/2011, 7:25 AM
hey guys, i was just wondering if you could give a voice of opinion towards my video i made in anticipation of the Avengers ^.^ i welcome all feedback, thanks guys

BlazinTexan - 8/21/2011, 7:26 AM
THOR IS AN ALIEN !!!!!!!
BlazinTexan - 8/21/2011, 7:27 AM
please god dont post part 2
Newtsy - 8/21/2011, 7:28 AM
Seriously, all this angst about a movie that isn't due out for another 9 months? How about you WATCH the movie first before going off the edge? Wow.. such impatience.
logunvadercap - 8/21/2011, 7:29 AM
@tea- let me go do a little manscaping and its on! i am looking rather bear-ish at the moment.
Seejay - 8/21/2011, 7:30 AM
Well, he/she has some valid points. But I disagree. An alien invasion, a global threat, is really what is necessary to get these guys assembled.

Only a earth based villain, or The Hulk (before he becomes a member), just doesn't cut it, the Avengers is the most powerful team in the Marvel universe. Thor alone makes for a very powerful villain, then add Hulk.

When that is done, in this first Avengers movie, they could bring Ultron, Thanos, Galactus (done right), or make it an even bigger invasion by both the Skrulls and The Kree.

There are plenty of cosmic villains out there ..
Simonsonrules - 8/21/2011, 7:31 AM
Dude: chill.

Thor and Loki are galactic vikings. It's not a big deal for a rather pissed off Loki to snap his fingers and make some Skrulls appear. Journey into Mystery 83: Thor vs. the Stone dudes from Saturn. Right off the bat.

Welcome to 616.
BlazinTexan - 8/21/2011, 7:32 AM
sounds like hes gonna jump...... jump jump jump jump lol
StevilNYC - 8/21/2011, 7:32 AM
Hey guys, it's been a while since I've been on here. Don't worry about this guy's e-mail. The Avengers is going to be the best CBM of all time. Better than the TDK even! If you want a taste of the Avengers before next year, you'll LOVE this web series. Someone needs to post this on the main page...

http://www.youtube.com/user/avengersweb#p/u/17/vA9PYvkwVxw
StevilNYC - 8/21/2011, 7:33 AM
Bodwulf - 8/21/2011, 7:34 AM
Instead of enjoying the movie that is being made. Some seem to throw in what the think should happen and then are disappointed when it does not match. Marvel has used the Ultimates as the template fron day one. Nick Fury is Sam Jackson in Iron Man. So why would you be suprised when the enemy in the movie are the aliens just like in the Ultimates?
Hawksblueyes - 8/21/2011, 7:36 AM
tea: What the Hell is that?!?

Bodwulf - 8/21/2011, 7:37 AM
oh and: No to part two.
Luther - 8/21/2011, 7:38 AM
"Sounds like a guy nitpicking the movie before it's even out" ..you all sound like you're OBLIVIOUS to ANYTHING "iffy" this movie does, BECAUSE it's The Avengers. Sounds like people are sucking it off way too fast here.

The E-mail says everything I've been called "an idiot" for. I agree with it 100%. I have since Whedon was announced, and will, seeing he's still directing. He's a freaking space sci-fi guy! Anyone could've saw this coming.

But those that SUPPORT it being Skrull or Kree, or a now made up race, needs to familiarize themselves with screenwriting/creative writing. I can already say, "this plot blows"...it HAS ALIENS! THAT WEREN'T EVEN SLIGHTLY MENTIONED in all the after credits scenes of all the movies that were SUPPOSED to tie together!

They're making these villains out to be "too epic". And are forgetting that each character STILL has solo films to do. It'll be a piece of cake to defeat ANY OTHER villain afterwards right?
logunvadercap - 8/21/2011, 7:40 AM
@tea- it's no problem. i'll get my mom to tame down my bbc(ball butthole connection). anything for you bro!
nordberg - 8/21/2011, 7:42 AM
Really?? This is what keeps this dweeb up at night? I wish my worries were so few...
logunvadercap - 8/21/2011, 7:42 AM
@hawks- it's his slothshark. it's very friendly if you get my drift.
Gmoney84 - 8/21/2011, 7:43 AM
How did this shit make main?

I just wasted a few minutes of my life on this fvck-all that I can't get back.

Oh, and you can tell by reading this that the writer is either NOT a true Avengers fan or is clinically retarded. Pick one.
penguinlover - 8/21/2011, 7:45 AM
I Doubt they were aliens. Im still speculating that those Mocap men are robots.
phoe1 - 8/21/2011, 7:50 AM
this is email is plain horeshit. I am usually the one getting annoyed with people stifling speculation based on things like early teasers/partial plot reveals and set photos but in this instance even I object to what the hell this idiot is blabbling about.

how does he know shield anticipates the attack? just because theres an avengers initiative doesnt mean they KNOW the skrulls/aliens are comming. also i dont think it ll go down like that at all..since it doesnt make ANY SENSE AT ALL.

Loki will lead the aliens or con them into attacking earth, either way it wont be a very planned out affair... i m sure is just gathering the avengers for other things or just to generally have control of all these super beings walking the earth. in addition they might wanna monitor them and make sure none of them fight each other (like iron man and thor could easily get into a fight with each other if they didnt know the other one)

also its the first movies of this kind with a massive team up so give them some slack...i m sure they r doin their best. geez. really wait for at least a full trailer before u start a full blown rant based on [frick]-all.
phoe1 - 8/21/2011, 7:50 AM
that was supposed to say "horseshit" lol. EDIT BUTTON MUCH?
Hawksblueyes - 8/21/2011, 7:52 AM
To all those who are chiming in on an article posted on a comic book movie site for no other reason than to say what a nerd or dweeb or geek this dude is... look in a mirror. That in itself is pretty damn hypocritical.

Actually this user isn't ranting at all, he is asking a fairly legitimate question. If The Avengers starts off with a threat level such as an alien invasion (which has not been hinted at in any previous Marvel films) where would it go from there? What kind of threat could they convince the average movie goer can top the invasion covered in their first movie?
skidz - 8/21/2011, 7:53 AM
It sounds like the rant of somebody who thinks the Avengers movie is some sort of conspiracy. Does the guy even know that the main villain is Loki?
Helena - 8/21/2011, 7:57 AM
Woa, this guy is so crazy he doesn't even realize they are using Cleveland as New York. It's articles like this that don't let CBM be taken seriously by other sites and communities, when it could rule as nerd central.

Instead of sharing this kind of the thing the next time explain to him everything he clearly didn't understand from the movies (SHIELD wasn't created to stop any particular threat, it was created so mankind would have a solid defense if one ever showed up).

And aliens aren't the ultimate enemy, you silly bugger. They are cannon fodder, large numbers but small power. Dozens of other villains can pose a much greater threat because they have unstoppable power. Loki only plans to bring them here after he fails to get the cube from SHIELD, why would there be hint.

Oh, you fanboys, it's either "NO! Y U SPOIL IT ALREADY!?" or "Y NO HINT AT IT"?

It's a comic book movie with a guy dressed as a flag. Stop wasting your time on meaningless details and grow up.
CaptainAmerica - 8/21/2011, 7:59 AM
I have an idea, it might sound crazy but here goes.........how bout you watch the [frick]ing movie first?
phoe1 - 8/21/2011, 8:01 AM
@hawksblueyes
thor - war of the gods...where do u go from there?
ok okok..they were aliens or beings from another dimension..whatever...its still a quite unimaginable quest...my point is, they are on such a scale u cant really logically anticipate whats gonna happen next. i guess 2nd team up they could battle the hulk as it becomes wilder and more dangerous. then they could of course fight thanos. by that time (2014 or 15) they might have the Fantastic Four on the way as well so a bigger team up could see them facing Dr. Doom.
Helena - 8/21/2011, 8:05 AM
@fsucsu Speaking of Red Skull, I assume he is in one of the Realms. Wonder if he'll escape through the SHIELD space bridge...
OtakuPapi - 8/21/2011, 8:09 AM
Its amazing based on the few pics weve seen here and there and bits and pieces of video that some people have any kind of conclusion about The Avengers,some people are so unappreciative, pompous, and arrogant in their views.Get a grip The Avengers will most likely end up being The Golden Standard For Superohero movies
marvel72 - 8/21/2011, 8:09 AM
who was the user ? & does he have batman or nolanite in his name. :D

lots of films do alien invasions as their storyline & who do they send in? the marines 99.9% of the time we win against an alien species that has learnt intergalatic travel,film power that can wipe out nations,have ground forces with a laser rifles & so on & what do we use against them bullets,jet fighters & so on & guess what we win.so i think a group of superheroes i.e a god,a monster,a super soldier,two trained assassins & billionaire in a high tech suit of armor should be able to stop an alien invasion.

@ MrYurMomm

good video mate. :D
BigDawgg - 8/21/2011, 8:09 AM
Sounds to me like that guy has a whole lot of gay in him. Thinking too much about a movie that's supposed to be fun. Silly CBM user.
nordberg - 8/21/2011, 8:10 AM
@hawks

No, my comment would hypocritical only if I were the kind of person who sent emails to editors of a cbm site, complaining about a movie that is still a year away, and THEN ridiculed someone who perpetrated the same thing. Well, I've never done that. Regardless, I come here for news, not the fevered rantings of some angst-ridden jackass.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; this kind of tripe does not belong on the front page of a news site, be it 'fan driven' driven or not.
SHHH - 8/21/2011, 8:11 AM
He Does Have A Point... Look At TDKR.... People jumpin to conclusions there well some are... Bring on Part 2
Paulley - 8/21/2011, 8:11 AM
Thor is an alien... they introduced a lot of Cosmic stuff in that and Captain America.... also we dont know anything about the film!!!... who says SHIELD has been preparing to fight aliens since the 40's? who said these aliens have made big plans to invade Earth?... hell it could just be a rogue group of aliens who have been desperately seeking a hospitable planet and happen across earth on there travels!

guess what until we actually watch the movie we dont know!!
marvel72 - 8/21/2011, 8:11 AM
^ don't know why i wrote "film power" it should read "fire power" bring back edit button.
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