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Editorial: Does it Matter at This Point Who THE AVENGERS Mysterious Aliens Really Are?

After seeing The Avengers extended commercial, does it really matter to you who the mysterious alien race and villain in the upcoming film actually are?

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By Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012
Like many, I've spent the last year wondering who Loki's mysterious allies could possibly be. I have been, and probably will continue to guess, research, stab in the dark and generally, seek any Marvel Comic alien race that could, may or would fit with any of the news that has hit concerning their identity.

So far, I have at various times been somewhat/vaguely/kinda/fairly certain that it would be Ultron, Thanos, Kang, Annihilus, The High Evolutionary or maybe even Frosty the Snowman. Right now, to say nobody is sure, would be one of the most monumental understatements I can recall in recent memory. One of the bad boys mentioned above (or quite possibly someone else entirely) will grace the screen this May in cahoots with Loki (at this point Loki is the only thing we are sure of/maybe) with an invading alien force at their disposal.

As with the aforementioned cosmic bad boy, the alien race accompanying him/her/it, is pretty much up in the air/anybody's guess. We have virtually exhausted our brain cells running down the list of who's who of alien races in the Marvel Cosmic Universe. We have theorized The Skrulls, Kree, Chitauri, Baddoon, Dire Wraiths, Phalanx, Rigellians and even The Alpha Centaurians. Since it was hinted at during The Avengers twitter event that the race may not even be aliens, we have even speculated that it could very well be The Knights of Wundagore or Atlanteans. A case could be made for any of the above races. We also have to consider the reports that the aliens are a compilation of several Marvel Universe races rolled into one. We have all heard about the strange new race reportedly created for the film called the Redacted. Ironically, the word redact means: to select or adapt (as by obscuring or removing sensitive information) for publication or release; broadly.)

So, to make a long story short, even after seeing them in the extended Super Bowl Commercial, we know almost nothing/nill/nada/zilch about the alien race used in the movie. What we do know about The Avengers after watching last night's footage is as follows.

It really doesn't matter!


We got to feast our eyes on a Black Widow that is set to kill.

We saw Hawkeye throwing himself out of something very high with his usual Devil may care attitude, apparently guessing that something or someone may or may not break his fall on the way down.

We got a more than a satisfying dose of smart ass, defiant Tony Stark as well as balls to the wall, flying, blasting, Invincible Iron Man.

It was fairly apparent from the footage that Captain America is going to be anywhere and everywhere in this movie. From the exchange he has with Tony Stark, it also looks like he is going to be the determined leader we all know and love.

As per the comics, THOR will be forcing his way head on into every obstacle the film can throw at him.

Loki is even more devious, arrogant, evil and determined than he was in THOR.

Hulk is going to smash the shit out of everything!

Oh yeah! We got to see the team together, back to back, taking on an alien army (whoever they may be.)

It certainly seems like we are going to see the Avengers we all know and love on screen, in all their BADASSERY. At this point, could the aliens' race or the mysterious other villains' identity be a deal breaker for you? Could it being someone other than who you wanted really even be considered a disappointment? I would bet money whoever it is, Whedon will weave a great story and make them a perfect fit. So I ask you, while I'm sure you will continue your guesswork (as I know I will), does it really matter to anyone at this point who the yet to be revealed villain or aliens are?

I doesn't to me. I'm hooked!


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BlazinTexan - 2/6/2012, 3:39 PM
AGREED brother bring it on
Gerrit - 2/6/2012, 3:47 PM
I don't know any of the contenders for Loki's army so I don't care. I would love if they were an army of mercenaries or pirates and if their nature were a cross between cosmic/technological and magical/mythological sides of the MCU.
WolvieCBM - 2/6/2012, 3:48 PM
Heh, I've said something similar on Twitter. Well, we already know who the villain is, it's Loki. What I said on twitter is that it's not important who the army is, after all, they are just soldiers, what matters is who is actually controlling that army. The finale of the film will be big, and it will set everything for Phase 2.
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 4:07 PM
You're just saying that yoss. You just say a lot.
rocky - 2/6/2012, 4:09 PM
Yeah we already know Loki is the main villain and we'll see how treacherous he can be. The aliens matter but not that much. They need to be good warriors and in big numbers to pose a real threat to the Avengers but let's face it they're just punching bags in the end which more than likely Loki will betray to get away
RorMachine - 2/6/2012, 4:09 PM
Kinda matters, I mean it won't effect a whole lot enjoyment wise, but it might effect the plot quite a bit depending on where they come from, who sent them, what they can/can't do etc. They MIGHT just be used as hero cannon fodder as you suggest but I actually hope not, that could end up like a Star Wars prequel type deal with those faceless, easily destroyed robots. I hope these guys are tough and have something about them.
bleedthefreak - 2/6/2012, 4:13 PM
don't you play this game Hawks! DON'T YOU PLAY THIS GAME!
DDD - 2/6/2012, 4:17 PM
It does matter but not earth-shattering "MATTER"!

Whoever it is will propel the story into the 2nd AVENGERS movie I hope.

All I know is WHEDON has outdone himself with this
SUPERBOWL trailer!

ASTOUNDING!!!!!!!!!!

I am exceedingly positive THE AVENGERS is gonna
BLOW us out the back of the theater and I'm gonna
CRY LIKE A BABY...GIANT OLD MAN that I am!

LOL
Mk616 - 2/6/2012, 4:18 PM
First - the trailer was amazing! Maybe the best preview to come out in years!
Second - it does matter who the army is. In the coming months we are going to see movie after movie of aliens. From Battleship to Prometheus. The army in the Avengers needs to stand out. They need to be a threat that we recognize and respect so that their inclusion in the Marvel U is worthy of the Avengers and leads to new story lines.
BlazinTexan - 2/6/2012, 4:18 PM
it only matters whos pulling the strings ala THANOS
Kolossus - 2/6/2012, 4:21 PM
Hulk bitch slapping alien ships...

forgifs.com
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 4:22 PM
I agree Ror. They can't simply be cannon fodder and I didn't mean to imply that. What I meant is that I think whoever it is, it looks like they will be integrated perfectly into what looks to be a great film. I don't think the name of that race is important.

Sorry bleed. =D
Ghostfire - 2/6/2012, 4:24 PM
To a certain extent, it does matter. If Marvel is going to explore the cosmic side, this is the doorway to it.

But on the other hand, like you said Hawks, it doesn't really matter. The fact that we could say that there's an Avengers movie actually happening, and that its a few months away, is what matters.

Great read Hawks!!
headlopper - 2/6/2012, 4:25 PM
I don't care if it's Skeletor and his buddy's from Snake Mountain...I'M GOIN"!
RunawaysHD - 2/6/2012, 4:25 PM
It doesn't really matter who the aliens are after seeing the superbowl trailer. I think we as fans are eager to know the other main villains, who does Loki make deals with? How does it set up for The Avengers 2..

I know Loki is the main villain but i'm sure he deals with someone a lot more powerful then him. They are fighting the earths mightiest heroes so they have to be strong..
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 4:25 PM
I am exceedingly positive THE AVENGERS is gonna
BLOW us out the back of the theater and I'm gonna
CRY LIKE A BABY...GIANT OLD MAN that I am!

Same here DDD. Same here my friend. That is really what I was trying to say in the article.
thewolfx - 2/6/2012, 4:27 PM
[frick] YOU MEAN IT DOESNT MATTER?



thats like saying lets have a spiderman movie with him going agaist shocker the whole movie


the right villains are just as important as the heroes
BIGBMH - 2/6/2012, 4:34 PM
I agree. Basically whoever it is, it's pretty much just going to be "Loki's army." I don't think the choice of who they are will really affect the story of this movie very much.
tomasocelot - 2/6/2012, 4:34 PM
um i hate to be a party pooper, but you guys are amp'ed up on a trailer. I am pretty sure all of you were acting the same way when you saw the star wars episode 1,2,3 trailers and we all know how that turned out. lets just all calm down and hope marvel doesn't screw up like it does 90% of the time. like i said i want it to be good so they keep making more movies.
sKeemAn - 2/6/2012, 4:34 PM
It does matter. Marvel has made a living so far on continuity. The alien race has to be one that is major in the MCU for later movies.
DDD - 2/6/2012, 4:34 PM
Even though I have THE FIRE DEMONS of MUSPELLHEIM
as my theory it seems to me like it's looking
more and more like THANOS' army and that THANOS
will show up at the end of THE AVENGERS movie, like
the rumor from LATINO REVIEW.

The more I look at the aliens from the trailer the
more it seems like their armor is kinda gold in color.
It just looks dingy from the shadows. Their skin
is blueish and they have 3 forward-facing toes.

If it is THANOS' hordes it DOES MATTER, for obvious
reasons! This would bring a lot of the plot lines
from all the AVENGERS solo movies all together and
introduce THANOS and the INFINITY GAUNTLET into the
mix.

WICKEDNESS!!!!!!!

So it REALLY does matter!

I just want to see a new GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
movie and a NOVA movie, bringing in THANOS and
THE INFINITY GAUNTLET and of course ADAM WARLOCK!

I'm an outer space nut! Love ALIENS in SPACE!
lol
SpiderManFan54 - 2/6/2012, 4:35 PM
the movie looks so sick, at this point, WHO GIVES A CRAP WHO THE ALIENS ARE the movie is going to be so dope!
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 4:36 PM
yoss: You're just saying that.
headlopper - 2/6/2012, 4:39 PM
@yossarian - What party will you be running under?
RunawaysHD - 2/6/2012, 4:39 PM
@DDD

I think it's Muspelheim and the fire demons. That could be Surtur as the Leviathan and Whats with the fire at Thor and Cap/BW. Hmmm

I don't care, april 27th is the greatest day to come..

and stuff
OverlyManlyMan - 2/6/2012, 4:41 PM
Its gonna Thanos army, those aliens looked a little too much like Thanos...The blue colored skin, the goldish armor
DDD - 2/6/2012, 4:43 PM
Who let DDARK@ in here?

This NOLAN VS MARVEL is just plain dumb ass as hell!

GTFO!

It's ll good!
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 4:44 PM
DDD: What difference does it make what name they give Thanos' army? These could be Skrulls in everything but appearance. They could be called Badoon and actually be responsible every action the Kree ever did in the comics.

sKeemAn: Yes and no. They don't have to be a major name from the Marvel Universe since the majority of the audience knows nothing about the Marvel Comics universe. They do however have to have to be a name (whatever that name may be) that carries out the actions of one of the Marvel Universes heavy hitting aliens race.

I guess I should have titled this article "What's in a Name?"
DDD - 2/6/2012, 4:45 PM
RUNAWAYSHD@....

EXACTLY!!!!!

lol
thalidomide - 2/6/2012, 4:46 PM
@DDD: Just ignore it. All it wants is our attention that's their only agenda in this site

And yeah for me I'll just wait for the movie to know who the aliens are.
DDD - 2/6/2012, 4:48 PM
You're correct HAWKS@!

It doesn't really matter what the NAME is if
they're THANOS' army.

THANOS and his army does kinda make sense, though,
with all the THANOS related stuff in the solo
AVENGERS movies.

I see where you're coming from with this article.
sKeemAn - 2/6/2012, 4:51 PM
@hawksblueyes

Exactly!
headlopper - 2/6/2012, 4:53 PM
@yossarian- That's about it. "Crownie Capitalism"- ain't it great.
I'm a Repulicrat , or Demublcan. Whatever makes more sense.
thewolfx - 2/6/2012, 5:03 PM
i almost hate ddark as much as i hate prettynuclear and thespiderasssin
Tainted87 - 2/6/2012, 5:22 PM
I think the big deal is trying to convince ourselves that the "Aliens" are NOT Frost Giants, and are NOT recycled villains.
We all want to see something new, and not just the smash and blast that has since hit every Marvel movie. We've been given a taste of the villains, but that is pretty much it.

*Stane tried to have Tony assassinated in order to take over Stark Enterprises (like the comics), got into his Iron Monger suit when his plan failed, and was then beaten/killed after a basic one-on-one with Iron Man.

*Blonsky's addiction for a literal kind of power drove him to become the Abomination, and after a brief but destructive rampage he was taken down by the Hulk (but thankfully apprehended).

*Whiplash wanted to reclaim what he thought was his family's legacy and used Stark's rival to mount a short but chaotic hostile takeover before being killed in an upgraded skirmish between Iron Man and War Machine.

*Loki had the best treatment to date: having his own revelation twisting his already deceitful nature to prove that he is worthy of ruling Asgard, leading the Frost Giants in a false coup, unleashing the Destroyer to try and kill the exiled Thor, and was presumed lost to the void after failing to destroy Jotunheim with the Bifrost.

*Red Skull didn't pull any punches, establishing his own branch of the Nazis - Hydra, while planning the destruction all superpowers throughout the world with assistance from the unlimited power of the cosmic cube; his plans were foiled when Captain America shut down his operations, and the Red Skull was sucked into the Cosmic Cube.

Loki and the Red Skull were phenomenal, and while my point is that only half of the villains from Marvel's films have lived to fight another day, we are all hoping to see something fresh WITH Loki.

Frost Giants would be a disappointment.
I think everyone, regardless of what they may claim, would love the Skrulls or the Kree, although I doubt either one.
Annihilus and the Negative Zone inhabitants would be really cool and fitting. I really think it'd be great to see the dome-shaped structure that makes up the Bifrost floating in the gravity-challenged Negative Zone, after Loki somehow managed to dive down inside and transport it there.

Truthfully, I don't see Marvel spending a fortune on the effects of this movie (which in no small part make up Loki's invasion force) only to call them something like "Redacts" or an original neutral name.

I think they'll come from the different realms Loki has traversed with the Bifrost at his disposal. Whether or not the Negative Zone factors into the Yggdrasil or not has yet to be seen.

I'm still curious as to how Thor is going to get back to Midgard.
MercMatt - 2/6/2012, 5:29 PM
To me, it's no big deal who the army turns out to be. That trailer blew me away. And Avengers was not, until this trailer, at the top of my list for must-see-movies this Summer. That trailer alone ranked it at a very high Numero Uno! So Whedon, imo, will not let us down.
TheRaven20 - 2/6/2012, 5:31 PM
It's still just fun to speculate... jeez.
SuspenseSmith - 2/6/2012, 5:32 PM
Doesn't matter. But I'm still curious as hell. If it wasn't a big deal, they wouldn't keep it under wraps so well.

Anyone else notice in the new trailer how little we still saw of these guys? There's something big about them, and Marvel won't tell us yet.

Marvel's doing a better job with secrets than Nolan is, and that's saying a lot.
Chekkarma - 2/6/2012, 5:32 PM
I'm still expecting a certain villain at the end......THANOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrReese - 2/6/2012, 5:35 PM
if it don't matter then y the [frick] the secrecy???? XD
Vision91 - 2/6/2012, 5:37 PM
Of course it matters, cynical asshole!
Dragun - 2/6/2012, 5:39 PM
NO! May 4th just get here already.
Polygame - 2/6/2012, 5:44 PM
I wouldn't mind if the movie was just the trailer in loop for 2 hours...I would go to the theatre anyway :)
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 5:47 PM
Vision: Where do you get cynical out of this article. It's about as optimistic as an article can get.

At least you only missed with half of your statement.
beetheb - 2/6/2012, 5:47 PM
Now here's a sentiment I can get behind. Good article, Hawks. :thumbsup:
Hawksblueyes - 2/6/2012, 5:48 PM
Same here Poly.
ironpool007 - 2/6/2012, 5:52 PM
@Hawksblueyes: [frick] to the yes bro. You said it all and more.
juggy4711 - 2/6/2012, 5:54 PM
Only matter's if they set up plot elements for future flicks.
KeithM - 2/6/2012, 6:13 PM
It matters who they are, but it doesn't matter who they are. If you get my meaning. It'll matter because once they're identified it will open it up to other stories, but it doesn't matter because whoever it is will open it up to other stories.

In other words, I agree with the article. :)
acidbath - 2/6/2012, 6:15 PM
What matters is we all go see it and leave ready to be the impatient geeks we are for the sequel
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