EDITORIAL: Highflyer's Biggest 'WHAT IF?' Questions.

In this editorial, HIGHFLYER will share the big questions he asks himself concerning the world of comic books and movies.

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By Highflyer - 5/1/2014



'Questions' and 'Probabilities' are two things that effect our daily lives in general. This also includes the comic books and CBMs that we hold dear. So with each choice a comic book character may make a choice or action he may take their is always a possible 'What if?' In all honesty, these possibilities  These questions aren't viable when it comes to the comic books themselves. It may involve the actors who embody the characters in movies and studios behind the films. Below, you will find the questions that have troubled me the most in recent years.


What if... The Abomination had joined The Avengers instead of The Hulk?



In the 2011 Marvel One Shot, 'The Consultant'  it was revealed that the World Security Council wanted Emil Blonsky (The Abomination) to be released from prison in order for him to join The Avengers Initiative. Weirdly, they blamed the destruction in Harlem which took the lives of innocent people on Bruce Banner (The Hulk) and considered The Abomination to be a war hero. Of course this didn't sit well with S.H.E.I.L.D and certain actions (which involved Tony Stark) were made to make sure the monster stayed in prison. 
Now call me crazy, but I would have paid a lot of money to see The Abomination as a member of The Avengers. Why? Well the inclusion alone would have allowed the movie to have a little more colors and unexpected turns. Just imagine, with all the good at heart superheroes The Abomination would sure mix things up. One might be concerned that The Abomination would end up being some kind of anti-hero and understandably so. But consider the type of character he is. He is an extremely dedicated individual who would stop at nothing to complete his task. Heck, I'm sure he would risk the lives of the people in New York in a blink of an eye just to destroy the alien threat and might have killed Loki instead of just knocking him out.

What if... Uncle Ben Hadn't Died?


 
Uncle Ben's death is an essential factor to the entire Spider-Man mythos. As morbid as this may sound, without his death, there would be no Spider-Man. To answer the question above, we have to ask ourselves one question, "where was Peter Parker's life heading prior to Uncle Ben's death?" 

To all those familiar with the story Spider-Man, you will know that after seeing a criminal running towards him, Peter casually lets him escape from the police and simply tells the officer who was in pursuit of the criminal that it wasn't his responsibility. Of course, this action would come to haunt him as the same criminal would kill his Uncle Ben. In all honesty, Peter was becoming something of a douche bag as he started to capitalize on his new found abilities and let all the attention and money he was receiving get to his head. This leads me to believe that without the a wake up call, Peter might have ended up being someone much different that the Peter Parker we all know and love. He could have ended up being a selfish celebrity who exploited his abilities for the sake of money.

What if... Batman And Robin (1997) Didn't Exist?



The 1997 film, Batman and Robin should have never had happened. Plain and simple. Not only is it a crime against the legend that is Batman but it is also a crime against cinema. There was just too much wrong with that movie. From the campiness and the bat nipples to Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr Freeze puns and the terrible portrayal of Bane. Not only did it kill the Batman franchise for years, but it's stench has possibly stopped characters such as Robin, Mr.Freeze and Poison Ivy from returning to the big screen any time soon. A part of me feels that if Batman and Robin had never been made, we might have seen Christopher Nolan adapt him in his Dark Knight trilogy. Christopher Nolan made it clear in the past that as long as he was directing the Batman films, Robin would not make an appearance. The same statement was echoed by former Batman, Christian Bale despite his favorite Batman story being 'Batman: Dark Victory' which mainly deals with the origin of Robin.
One may say that if Nolan truly wanted to adapt Robin, Poison Ivy or Mr. Freeze into his realistic world he made for his trilogy he could have just like he did with Bane. But the difference is the level of bad reputation that had befallen Bane after Batman and Robin wasn't nearly as bad as the other villains. Any time you mention Mr.Freeze to a casual moviegoer they immediately think of puns such as 'What killed the dinosaurs... THE ICE AGE!' Now that The Dark Knight trilogy has ended, one can only hope Robin will appear in some form in the DC cinematic universe with the new Batman (Ben Affleck)

What if... studios didn't force Sam Raimi to include Venom In Spider-Man 3?



I see Sam Raimi's trilogy as something along the lines of an "ex-girlfriend". We had some great times but she went and did something stupid. I think that is the best way I can describe it. After two strong entries, fanboys and general audiences alike were disappointed by the third entry. As the movie moved on to the third act, I could feel that Spider-Man 3 was not measuring up to the previous ones. A common criticism is how the movie treated Venom. While the problems of the film goes beyond that(such examples like Sandman being Uncle Ben's real killer, emo Peter dancing and its focus on Mary Jane's singing career stick out of my mind), Venom is usually seen as a staple of the problems with this movie.  
After the release, the blame game began. People started pointing fingers as to who was to blame. One day, a report surfaced online. It claimed that Sam Raimi didn't want Venom in the movie as he felt like the lack of humanity in the character made him uninteresting. Now, there are also rumors that the studio initially wanted Venom to be introduced at the very end of the movie so that he could be the main villain of the fourth movie. Whatever the truth may be, its interesting to think about how the movie would have turned out if Raimi had his way. However while I may forgive Raimi for screwing up Venom since he wasn't really connected to the character, I can't pardon him for the Peter dancing. Who the heck thought that was a good idea?

Well that's my biggest questions that linger in my mind. What are yours? Comment below and don't forget to give the the thumbs up!


 

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DrunkenNukem - 5/1/2014, 2:05 PM
What a great editorial, but still with or without Venom, Spiderman 3 would sucked anyway...and im a big Raimi´s trilogy fan.
DrunkenNukem - 5/1/2014, 2:06 PM
TIH was a great film and part of its success was because Abomination was cool.
DrunkenNukem - 5/1/2014, 2:08 PM
After Spiderman 1 & 2, we can forgive Raimi for Spiderman 3...

but not for OZ movie...jeez Raimi what the hell were you thinking?
0megaDaGod - 5/1/2014, 2:19 PM
Damn, this editorial is amazing. Great concept, and it opens some pretty interesting dialogues

'Thumbs up'
GliderMan - 5/1/2014, 2:20 PM
Spider-Man 3 wouldn't get near the hate of Venom had been saved for Spider-Man 4. Spidey still could've had the black suit too.
TheMexicanSuperman - 5/1/2014, 2:30 PM
@yossarian, have you seen the director's cut of Daredevil? I thought it was really good.
Lhornbk - 5/1/2014, 2:33 PM
Why would anyone ever want the Abomination on the Avengers? The guy was a total lunatic after turning into that monster.
LEEE777 - 5/1/2014, 2:40 PM
Thumbs nice one, great read! :p



WHAT IF - Lois didn't find out in MOS who Superman was straight away?

WHAT IF - TDKR finished just as Batman blew up in the sky near the end instead of the 10 minutes of crap right after?

WHAT IF - JONAH HEX was taken seriously like the remake TRUE GRIT was?

WHAT IF - TOM JANE actually did PUNISHER 2 set on Rikers Island instead of the crap we got with a horrible script in WARZONE?

WHAT IF - FOX didn't butt [frick] all their Marvel characters?

Answer = Much better cbm's!

Sigh, damn, hate thinking about what could have been. : P
gamecreatorjj - 5/1/2014, 2:54 PM
What if Heath Ledger was alive for TDKR?
LEEE777 - 5/1/2014, 2:55 PM
P.S. Yeah The Incredible Hulk is one of the stronger Marvel Studio movies out there, like Drunken said Abomination was great in it :D
BatfleckReturns - 5/1/2014, 3:18 PM
What if Justice League: Mortal had been made?

What if Marvel didn't sell their big characters movie rights?
dethpillow - 5/1/2014, 4:12 PM
what if Avi Arad hadn't resigned in 2006 as head of Marvel Studios, resulting in his protege of sorts, Kevin Feige, stepping up to the job?
dethpillow - 5/1/2014, 4:14 PM
What if Bryan Singer hadn't left X3 Last Stand and someone else had done the next Superman movie?
dethpillow - 5/1/2014, 4:16 PM
keep in mind that Batman Begins came out 2005. TDK in 2008
and Superman Returns in 2006.
dethpillow - 5/1/2014, 4:21 PM
and the eternal favorite....
what if Gwen Stacy hadn't died?

haha, if you believe Marvel Comics, all What Ifs end up with either everyone dying miserably, Cap becoming president, and/or everyone marrying random other people for no reason.
and usually with Ultron conquering the world at the end.

and then everyone dying miserably.
dethpillow - 5/1/2014, 4:24 PM
oh and everyone being chosen by Galactus to be his herald, or picking up Mjolnir and seeing what happens.

and then dying miserably.
marvel72 - 5/1/2014, 4:52 PM
what if the russo brothers had directed captain america the first avenger?

what if batman actually died at the end of the dark knight rises?

what if marvel studios had all their character rights back?

what if galactus was actually galactus in fantastic four rise of the silver surfer & not a f*ckin cloud?

what if i was f*ckin kate upton?

what if green lantern & man of steel were great movies?
dellamorte1872 - 5/1/2014, 5:16 PM
I agree Incredible Hulk is honestly more entertaining than cap. But I am a hulk fan so that is a conundrum
CorndogBurglar - 5/1/2014, 5:23 PM
To be fair, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3 may have been okay, but his plans for Spidey 4 were even worse than what we got in Spidey 3.

The villain was set to be the Vulturess. A female version of the Vulture who was the daughter or grand daughter of Adrian Toomes. That was just the beginning...
CorndogBurglar - 5/1/2014, 5:26 PM
What if Cap had won Civil War
CorndogBurglar - 5/1/2014, 5:26 PM
What if Peter Parker kept the Symbiote.
Holmes - 5/1/2014, 7:24 PM
Spidey 3 would have been a good flick.
BenderBendingRodriguez - 5/1/2014, 8:12 PM
What if Man of Steel would have been a good movie lol flame war!
CaptainAmerica31 - 5/1/2014, 8:35 PM
-What if Sony Rebooted the Spider-man series this year?

We probably would've gotten a Revered and welcomed movie. Rather than a good movie covered in a trash thrown by people who were to attached to the previous trilogy.

-What if The Dark Knight wasn't legendary?
TWS and all that followed TDK wouldn't be as great.

-What if Rian Johnson directed TASM series? Without Matt Tolmach and Arad?- we would have some legendary shit.
H3LLBLAZER - 5/1/2014, 8:52 PM
What if Joss Whedon had directed Wonder Woman?

What if DC had their own studio?

What if WB had let Tim Burton finish his trilogy?

What if Heath Ledger didn't die?

What if DC just adapted GL First Flight, into a live action film, instead of the crap we got?

What if Nolan listened to WB and instead of Bane, we got The Riddler?

What if DC bought Marvel, back when they were bankrupt?

What if Singer never did Superman Returns?

What if Superman was never created?

What if Spider-Man 3 didn't suck?

What if Marvel made something else besides generically watered down disneyfied kiddie films?
H3LLBLAZER - 5/1/2014, 8:53 PM
@BenderBendingRodriguez

Hahahahahaha! You're a dumb@ss.
breakneckbeck - 5/1/2014, 11:33 PM
Some interesting questions posed. I think particularly TDKR might have been stronger were robin possibly thrown into the mix. I really liked TDKR it just felt a little more formulaic in its plot and I think Robin might have broken that up. Also as much as I want to say that Spiderman 3 would have been better there were just so many things wrong with that damn film… Damn. And there certainly would have been a different dynamic to the Avengers team if they all strongly distrusted one member. Possibly a comic storyline in there?

This is actually a really interesting write up and I really like it. Food for thought. Well done sir
TheBlasi - 5/2/2014, 2:04 AM
Great Editorial! Also:

- What if Amy Adams' Lois Lane was cut out of 'Man of Steel'?

- What if a (great) sequel to 'The Incredible Hulk' would compete against 'Superman vs Batman'?

- What if Richard Armitage was playing Bruce Wayne/Batman in The Dark Knight Trlogy?

- What if 'The Incredible Hulk' had been a great success at the box office (by grossing $991,513,666)?
Vortigar - 5/2/2014, 4:22 AM
Everybody always keeps harping on Batman and Robin. Have you seen that movie recently? It's absolutely hilarious. I love it. People need to get that stick out of their behinds.

Batman '66 and the series were a huge hit and are the sole reason Batman is as well known as he is. But the Batman fans keep harping on how they wanted the 'true' Batman. What true Batman? He's been a million different things to a million different people.

Sure, the grim and gritty take has merit, but there's more out there. Come on, a guy armed with an umbrella? Riding dinosaurs? That giant penny and typewriter? That's Batman's history and a part of his legacy. Embrace the madness and enjoy it, it doesn't destroy or devalue the character in the slightest.

@Dethpillow Quote: "What if Bryan Singer hadn't left X3 Last Stand and someone else had done the next Superman movie?"

Yep, that's the big one.

Now get me my shark-repellent-bat-spray and let's go swimming!
BoomTubeB - 5/2/2014, 4:44 AM
one of my fav what if books!

BoomTubeB - 5/2/2014, 4:47 AM
what if Bane used venom in TDKR !
BoomTubeB - 5/2/2014, 4:50 AM
what if fans woke up & realized marc webb is extremely overrated director!
iMVuze - 5/2/2014, 6:17 AM
@BoomTubeB

Movies are just like music. Everyone has different tastes and opinions.
Nomis - 5/2/2014, 7:49 AM
What if HighFlyer never wrote this article?
Gusto - 5/2/2014, 7:59 AM
What if that Boy Scout Troop Leader
had never touched my no no parts?
Nomis - 5/2/2014, 8:50 AM
@ Gusto - LOL!!! Wrong...just wrong. smh!
smlaude - 5/2/2014, 10:59 AM
i like the whole what if TDK never existd.... Joker was right, 'youve changed things'

instead of watching cbm for fun and seeing heroes fight, we need stories, plots, and in-depth characters.
We always judge a movie in comparison to TDK and not for what its worth, justified? maybe or maybe not, i dunno
but TDK changed everything. Withthatsaid, I dont wanna live in a world where TDK doesnt exist.
WesleyGibson - 5/2/2014, 4:58 PM
What if Daniel Craig never portrayed James Bond?

lol Awesome read. Thumbs up from me.
rora - 5/3/2014, 12:02 PM
Thumbs up!

The "what if H.Ledger didn't die" :/ yeah biggest "what if" I don't want to think about. Too sad.

By chance, I just discovered yesterday (late, I know) that Snyder considered Kristen Stewart for Lois Lane. I don't know whether that's true but "WHAT IF Kristen Stewart had been chosen to play Lois Lane?" I would have been sooo pissed.
yonny616 - 5/3/2014, 1:48 PM
What if The Avengers sucked?

What if Warner Bros had bought Marvel instead of Disney.

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