EDITORIAL: Why I Think Miles Morales Was Introduced Too Soon!

The new Spider-Man Miles Morales has been hit with a mix of skepticism, neglect, willingness, hatred, and racism. So whats my problem with our new successor to Peter Parker? Hit the jump to find out...

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By bleedthefreak - 8/24/2011


When DC Comics made the controversial decision to kill(?) off Batman/Bruce Wayne at the hands of Darkseid, the comic world was left with one question, who was going to don the Batman Cowl and kick some bad guy ass out of Gotham City? We as you may know were given Dick Grayson as the new Batman. This idea was accepted by most of comic community, but why?

Dick Grayson for years was the rambunctious boy sidekick to Batman, growing popular enough even to hold his own fame outside of Batman's shadow. With the death of Bruce Wayne and Gotham in need of a new caped crusader, who best to take over the mantle then the boy turned man who proved to be at times an equal to his trainer/surrogate father. Who else could walk into the role of Batman without causing a great deal of controversy as to why this person is the new Batman instead of someone else. Dick was a member of the DC Universe for nearly as long, and was trained by Bruce himself, so everybody knew he could fill his shoes until his inevitable return (because who really stays dead other than Gwen Stacey and Uncle Ben in comics?).

Now we have a new Spider-Man, a thirteen year old half Black/half Spanish kid from New York named Miles Morales taking over for the recently killed of Peter Parker. Though race has been a reason behind most peoples reluctancy, My problem stems out of a question of why the hell is THIS kid out new Spider-Man? What the heck does he have to do with Peter Parker? Its not the change of Spider-Man's identity that gets under my skin, its the fact that it is someone we don't know, or even know how he came to be Spider-Man. I know we are clearly set to learn more about Miles, but why choose to stick some random kid we don't know yet into the role of a prominent and iconic hero?

We have never been introduced to Miles Morales before hand, which makes him some stranger to the comic world. The flaw with Miles' introduction is the fact that we were forced to except him as the new Spider-Man, before we ever had so much as a glimpse at him before.

Personally I, and many more people would have warmed up to Miles Morales should he have had any role in previous stories. He could have been someone or Peter took under his wing and gotten him prepared to replace him. But instead we are left wondering why some kid we have never heard of also has similar powers to Spider-Man (I believe I heard he does not have ALL of the original Spider-Man's powers) and has never even been so much as whispered about. Why would he just conveniently appear out of thin air directly after Peter's death.

So what is my main problem with Miles Morales? I think we not only needed to get to know him sooner before he jumped right up into the role of taking over an A list hero. Also I think we needed more time to absorb Peter Parker's death and let it unfold as a story, I mean we knew months before that the second Peter died a new Spider-Man would just pop up weeks later. It is more a flaw with super hero deaths in general, if you kill them, why do you feel the need to replace them? Aside from Batman (who mainly had to defend Gotham alone) these heroes could be left dead in order to build tension in stress and add character depth when showing characters handle the death of a hero instead of combing through back issues for his/her replacement or creating a new one that doesn't quite make sense yet.

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Deathlok - 8/24/2011, 7:29 PM
Ultimate Marvel sucks anyways.
Ghostt - 8/24/2011, 7:31 PM
good points bro, who is this kid. He's thirteen? pretty frackin young.
bleedthefreak - 8/24/2011, 7:39 PM
You guys don't read before you comment do ya? I point out it isn't the race right away, I comment on his race for background, but as clearly stated in the rest of the article, my problem is we don't know who he is not his friggin skin color or ethnicy.
TimelessUnknown - 8/24/2011, 7:39 PM
I think all of what was stated in this article sums up why I wasn't to happy about the new Spidey. I'm still giving him a chance.
LordHuck - 8/24/2011, 7:40 PM
So you thought just commenting on or in one of the other half dozen articles about Miles Morales wouldn’t get you the proper attention? So you had to make an entire article to guarantee your opinion a spot light?
adamrich81 - 8/24/2011, 7:40 PM
Well written John- You really make some valid points outside of race. Maybe i'm just naive but I don't see the race as an issue- I do feel like I don't know the kid, which bugs me.
WellDrawn - 8/24/2011, 7:40 PM
It's just sad and ironic that almost EVERY black superhero either has the word 'Black' in his name, or have a mostly black cotume:

Black in the Name:
Black Panther
Black Goliath
Black Lightning
Black Manta

Mostly Black Costumes
Blade
Mister Terrific
Myles Morales
Spawn
'Zack' The Black Ranger from Power Rangers
SageMode - 8/24/2011, 7:41 PM
See now, this is a valid and understandable reason why I could see the reason why people would be iffy on Miles Morales taking over the Spider-Man role, rather than that stupid race issue.
bigshow2312 - 8/24/2011, 7:48 PM

I dont think getting to know the character is such a huge deal especially when its only in a comic book... its not like he's running for office or anything. Plus his age should'nt make people skeptical even after they've seen what kids can do ((Hit Girl from Kick Ass)) in comics. I mean, its ok for writers to take a different rout than the ol Batman and Robin partnership (who copied who?)... Im pretty sure he'll be introduced well even though I myself dont like the idea him being gay/brown/black... Its like Marvel is trying to draw minorities (gays as well) to read their comics in a cheap fashion! If they wanted to impress the masses then make a character that they/we (I) can relate to... Just my 2 cents.
OanMaster - 8/24/2011, 7:49 PM
We were also forced in the late 50's to accept Hal Jordan as Green Lantern, Barry Allen as the Flash, Ray Palmer as the Atom and more recently Kyle Rayner as Green Lantern. Now mind you we'd never seen any of them before either. They were not made to appeal to the fanboys of the 30's and 40's. This is a new time and possibly room needs to be made for new heroes. Who cares whether he is white, black, yellow or polka dot. Miles Morales is now Ultimate Spider-Man. Marvel and Disney would be willing to do such things in their main universe...
bleedthefreak - 8/24/2011, 7:50 PM
I am not saying he won't work, infact I have faith that Bendis will turn him into something good and fun to read, I'm more than willing to read this series (infact I'm willing to guarentee I will). I just was explaining most fans hate for this new kid stems out of his random arrival.
bleedthefreak - 8/24/2011, 7:54 PM
Oanmaster has just proven my editorial can be countered logically when actually given a read through, instead of people assuming I was hating on his race. Cudos sir, you are smarter then most here!

BIGBMH - 8/24/2011, 7:55 PM
You know, I think I completely agree. It was pretty much "Peter is dead, so here's your new Spider-man!" We didn't even get through the funeral before they introduced Miles. It's like your dog got hit by a car and then the next day your dad is like "Surprise! Got you another dog!" I might be able to love this new dog eventually, but you can't expect me to be excited about it so soon after losing a dog that I really cared about.
Griffinso - 8/24/2011, 7:58 PM
I think the fact that Miles and Peter have no connection is awesome it just shows how much impact spider-man had, and how much of an inspiratoin he was for someone to want to fill his shoes and carry on his name and show that no matter what spider man will live on. I for one can't wait to see what happens
BIGBMH - 8/24/2011, 8:04 PM
In defense of his point, like he said Bruce Wayne was replaced by a long time memeber of his supporting cast. Steve Rogers was replaced by Bucky, a significant person in his life who has been known for a long time and had a major pressence in the series leading up to the death. With these replacements, the audience is already somewhat invested in the character so it eases the transition and makes them feel like it's a connected continuation of the story they've been following. Personally, I've been following this series for a while. While I realize that they want to bring in new readers, I also want to know that Ultimate Spider-man is continuing in some form other than just the name.
ClarkFarley2012 - 8/24/2011, 8:10 PM
@SuperGuy, great points. That's why ppl were attracted to Peter Parker. He wasn't from Kyrpton, he didn't inherit a billion dollars. He was a flawed newspaper photographer who got fired every other day. Smart as hell, but choice to dumb himself down to have time to be Spidey.

Besides the interesting will be when Peter comes back to life, because you know comic deaths don't last as stated in this article. Where does that leave ole Miles?
EastcoastAvenger - 8/24/2011, 8:15 PM
He's not a man! Yet... Why are we calling a thirteen year old kid Spider-MAN? Arachnid Boy... Spider Lad? The Creepy Crawly Kid?
bleedthefreak - 8/24/2011, 8:15 PM
Part of me hopes Bendis keeps Parker dead for a while. It would show some real balls.

MrEko, all the characters you named are new, dead, or replaced again with better received original version, so your argument is actually somewhat irrelivant as many of those characters, like Miles were greated with hostility until changed back to form.
ironknight - 8/24/2011, 8:16 PM
I don't hate him because he's black, I just hate that he's not Peter Parker.
SpiderFan35 - 8/24/2011, 8:20 PM
I think there is always some adjustment when an unknown takes on the mantle of a beloved hero. But I think it is kind of refeshing in a way too.
Having the side kicks or other known characters take over is like a manager of an office retiring and the assistant manager takes over. Kinda boring and predictable.
Christuffer - 8/24/2011, 8:20 PM
I'm not opposed to him being black. It's kinda like an Elseworlds thing, but I am DEFINITLEY opposed to him being gay.

No gay Spider-Man. Bring back Peter Parker the second he's gay, or he's not Spider-Man anymore. He's Gay-Man. Fag-Man if you will lol I don't mean to be anti-gay or whatever but that's just not what Spider-Man is.
Furthermore, if they were going to make a gay Spider-Man, why would the gay guy be Black/Mexican anyway? Why couldn't they have a gay white guy, or Asian guy? This new Spider-Man is gonna be the biggest cluster[frick] in Marvel history if he's gay
MatchesMalone1989 - 8/24/2011, 8:22 PM
Just Keeping It Real. WHO THE [frick] READS ULTIMATE MARVEL????
krooklyndodger - 8/24/2011, 8:22 PM
That is one stupid editorial. "We don't know him"? We'll get to know him just as we have gotten to know many characters. Either this works or it doesn't, but either way, you are trying to cancelling him out before he hit's the shelves.

The only thing I don't care for about this iteration of Spiderman is his age. He seems awfully young to take on such a responsible; saving day and concealing his identity from the world.
Griffinso - 8/24/2011, 8:31 PM
dont get why people dont like the Ultimate Universe it just allows for new opportunitys for character and more storys and i love that they keep characters dead it gives us more sense of urgency
bleedthefreak - 8/24/2011, 8:39 PM
I never read the interview with Bendis were he said Parker was staying dead, and I don't read ultimate Daredevil, though I know it is a recent change. As for if I read Ultimate universe, I only read a handful of them.
logicoflame - 8/24/2011, 8:39 PM
Why is this on the front page? This is silly
captquirk - 8/24/2011, 8:42 PM
Some good points throughout the article and comments. Age and race aren't even an issue, or the fact that someone new has taken the name of a prior hero. That has happened often in DC and Marvel. Almost anybody can wrap themselves in a flag, carry a shield, and be Captain America. Or put on a powered suit of armor and become Iron Man. But to be Spiderman, you sort of need to have...well, spider like abilities of some sort? Just like, if you take the name Human Torch, you damn well better catch on fire, and not just flick a Bic.

Now, I'm not an avid reader these days, just occasionally, when I buy them for my sons. I have been sort of out of the loop, and didn't really know much about Parker's death. But yeah, who is this kid, and how did he get said spider like powers? Not really a common thing... unless there was a swarm of radioactive spiders running amok?
Ranger14 - 8/24/2011, 8:45 PM
He isn't gay.
drykillogic22 - 8/24/2011, 8:59 PM
MrEko..You are the Man..:)
Tired - 8/24/2011, 9:10 PM
Matches makes an excellent point:

"Just Keeping It Real. WHO THE [frick] READS ULTIMATE MARVEL????"

Which leads to the answer that not enough people read it so they have to kill off characters and try to appeal to minorities - they did a sloppy job with Ultimate Spiderman too because they said the was half black/half hispanic but based on everything so far he looks pretty much black that gets picked on by white thugs - not too transparent.

For all you young holier than-thou hypocrites that keep saying to get over race and everyone but you and the minorities you think you're defending are are not racists, keep in mind blacks, hispanics, and every race is as racists as the next - f-you hypocrites and f-you non-racist racists.
HavocT - 8/24/2011, 9:22 PM
Remember when Obama's staff wanted to meet with the people at Marvel?

Unmasked - 8/24/2011, 9:24 PM
First of all I'd like to say that I'm very excited to see how all of this turns out. I think it's a really cool idea.

Now for some honesty.......

I think that if Miles was some other hero(new hero/made up) he wouldn't get nearly as much attention as he does now. I mean think about it. How many kids do you know who are crazy about other black heroes?? You don't see Black Panther on luchboxes. You don't see Luke Cage on cards/video games.(And if you do it's rare!) So why not give a character of color a shot at an established hero. I think it makes things interesting and gives a fresh take on the comics.


You've Just Been UNMASKED!
FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey - 8/24/2011, 9:52 PM
I mostly agree with you....but I don't think I would've liked this even if he was introduced earlier. I liked Peter Parker too much. I couldn't wait to see him EVENTUALLY join the Ultimates. He had so much potential and the story Bendis was building for Ultimate Parker was the by far the best out of all the Ultimate Universe comic books. His relationships and ties to other heroes were so developed. And now.....BOOM. They kill him off just because they want to have a black spidey. Not cool. However I will admit, the comic where he died was actually very well written. But I was still unhappy.
Greengo - 8/24/2011, 10:03 PM
Well JS I agree their could have been a smoother transition to this characters' intruduction. I'm interested in it not because he's blaxican but he's young and has interesting new powers and I wanna see how he got his powers to begin with.

What's annoying is the blatant way comics are making decisions based on what would be the biggest headling, it seems to be motivated by nothing more than publicity. I don't have a problem with it, I just kinda smh and say "alright you got my attention" so they accomplished their mission. Overall it smells like a way to gin up controversy and boost sales/intrigue ala Superman denouncing his US citizenship to take on Iran (which was kind of an oxy-moron)

Another thing that's mildly annoying is his name: Miles Morales. Wtf is that? Why not Jerome Perez, or Antwann Garcia. And why blaxican? Why not half korean half hawaiian~ Kim Polumolu. Why not half chinese half brazilian~ Chung Gracie. Why not half CherryBomb half Greengo~ GreenBomb or Cherrygo

Anyways~ their ploy has worked, I am interested. Who knows how it will turn out~ Perhaps as a widely accepted new character that maintains public interest and can sustain the test of time, or maybe it will be just a short lived run that climaxes faster than Teabag, and then fades into oblivion.
Greengo - 8/24/2011, 10:06 PM
*there *headline
QB7 - 8/24/2011, 10:23 PM
I don't understand why Spider-man has to be black. Does that mean the Black Panther can be change to a white guy from Ireland? Spider-Man is white so just deal with it. White guilt is this country by the liberal left needs to stop. If Marvel wants a black super hero then just make a new one up. So what's next Superman is now a mexican and wolverine is arabic????
Tevii - 8/24/2011, 10:51 PM
The new Spiderman could have just as easily been called The Arachnid AND EVERYONE WOULD BE HAPPY.. But It amazes me how some say people are losers because they disagree with this move based on the race aspect. It goes deeper than the comics or the many movies that do it. It PRETENDS there arent differences between us when there are. And those differences are what makes each great and unique.
You say race doesn't matter but if Black Panther, Shaft or Blade was turned into a white guy, many of you who support the Spidey thing would be angry... as would I.
But changing so many characters to black versions is ultimately destructive. Besides creating the rift you obviously see above it also creates confusion for those that arent major comic fans. Thats PART of why the Green Lantern movie failed. Many believed he was supposed to be a black guy because all they knew was the JLA cartoon.
When an identity has been established and role models are created, how is it ever a good thing to take away from one group to give to another? Its just as easy to create new black characters, theres room for both
NeoBaggins - 8/24/2011, 11:03 PM
That black and red suit up there is sick. What Spider-man is that?
Avenger53 - 8/24/2011, 11:35 PM
This whole thing is just one dumb publicity stunt to increase sales by way of "controversy". The reason I don't like him (or care about him) is because he's not Peter Parker... He's not Peter Parker, he's not Spidey... End of story.

(Also, Bucky Barnes is not Cap and Dick Grayson is not Batman)
NeoBaggins - 8/24/2011, 11:39 PM
@QB7 Spider-man didn't turn black, he died and someone became the next Spider-man.
hartley07 - 8/24/2011, 11:59 PM
On a somewhat rude and obnoxious note, if he does turn out to be gay, can anyone here really say they are psyched for spiderman's love interest to be a dude? Who's it gonna be? Marvin James Watson? Glen Stacey?
hartley07 - 8/25/2011, 12:11 AM
It also just occured to me that he's 13. If he turns out gay, any way you slice it, you have to admit thats a liiiiiiittle creepy. I'm not really up for 13 year old gay sexual tension. 15 year old underage straight sexual tension with parker is kinda creepy enough. (If all our hopes and dreams came true and he got it on with Black Cat, technically Black Cat is guilty of rape, and the audience is guilty of watching it and liking it. freaks.)
WonderMoose - 8/25/2011, 12:28 AM
My issue with Miles has been from the beginning that we don't know how he gets his spider powers. Bendis did say in an interview that Peter Parker served as Mile's "Uncle Ben" in that his death inspires him to do good.

You are correct that this inspiration would be more greatly appreciated if we had been given some reason for it to affect Miles. I suppose perhaps he's a Spiderman fan with his own powers and hears on the news Spiderman is dead and go "Oh Noez!" If that's the case that's not really enough for me.

If even one issue before his death Peter had befriended or saved Miles and when he died it got revealed he was Spiderman that would have been enough of a connection for me to jump right in.

JoeWinz - 8/25/2011, 12:31 AM
I understand that some skepticism comes from not knowing who this kid is, but without reading the comic first it is not justified. I'm sure Bendis will come up with a good story to explain why this kid has taken the role. We have not seen enough to form a valid opinion.

The best thing about Spider-Man is that people don't know who is behind the mask. It could be anybody! Black, white, green, purple. Doesn't matter.

Lastly, for anybody who says that only Peter Parker can be Spider-Man, what about Miguel O'Hara? He made a pretty awesome Spidey.
Ceejay - 8/25/2011, 1:01 AM
I don't think these guys understood their audience very well in the first place. The Ultimates universe comics really suited the older comic fan who was tired of the limitations of the 616 universe in terms of mature narrative. It re imagined the stuff they grew out off presented it with a lot more feasible foundation. Naturally the more clueless writers and artists that got involved the less that mature and feasible combination got presented for that audience and that's why the sales dropped. When you have someone like Bryan Hitch drawing The Ultimates with a sense of true reality in the characters and the costumes they wear, then you switch the duties to a caricature artist like Joe Madueria who can only draw in cartoony/manga style that appeals to children; then you've missed your target audience by a mile!

To then decide to pull a D.C comics level, stupidity event and destroy the entire comic series as a marketing gimmick is another move that was never going to suit the mature audience who more often than not were utterly sick of huge crossover events in the regular comics universe being used as gimmicks to sell them comics they would otherwise have no intention of buying. All that crap they should have left back with the 616 universe and people who still want to buy comics full of overly colourful costumed characters and villains who keep coming back from the dead without questioning the narrative direction of anything they're told they need to buy for their collection! Now to try and bring it all back as some sort of exercise in political correctness is just an insult not only to the intelligence of the original audience of the Ultimate line, but to everyone involved trying to keep this industry alive with variety based in genuine conviction!
blkyank - 8/25/2011, 1:21 AM
After the death of Superman in 1992,we had John Henry Irons show up as a possible replacement for the Man of Steel.A year later we had Azrael take over for Batman after Knightfall without so much as an excuse me to Dick Grayson.In fact,there is just as long a history of new guys taking over iconic roles as old characters moving in.For every Dick Grayson or Wally West taking over,we got a Kyle Rayner or Jaime Reyes.
alekesam - 8/25/2011, 1:35 AM
It's kind of odd that people say putting a black kid in Spidey's uniform is wrong and that if Marvel wants to have a black hero they should make a new one from scratch.

There's just an inherent prejudice (not racism) in saying things like that. It's like people are saying that a black kid (or as in this case, mixed) can't play a role that a white male does. It's also saying (intentionally or not) "Go make a new black character so I can ignore it/so it's not in the titles I regularly read." Or to put it more on the nose, folks like their black characters in their proper "place".

But by putting a black male in a well-liked role, people cry foul because now, if they want to read Spiderman, they have to deal with this black kid. It's that same type of thinking that drove some (and please note that I said some and not all) white people nuts when Obama won. Because a black man made it out of his "place". It's these same kind of folks that will totally lose it if you suggest Black Panther being able to beat Captain America in a fight.

Furthermore, why does it have to be "white guilt" motivating this decision? If anything, it has nothing to do with white guilt and everything to do with money, combined with a genuine need to try to change up their line. I actually wish they had the balls to pull this stunt in the 616 and had BND end with Miles as the new Spidey. God, the amount of collective heart attacks across America would've been frightening.

Lastly, not knowing this new character is completely fine with me just like having a new Black Widow introduced as Fury's wife out of nowhere is cool with me. Keeps me coming back so I can find out more about this character. There's a thought: not knowing anything about a character actually breeds interest. Amazing concept there. Especially when you've been with other characters for thirty to fifty years and know every last thing there is to know about them.

That's something that I've always liked about the Ultimate U in general. You never really know what you're going to get and dead is dead.

alekesam - 8/25/2011, 1:46 AM
@ Ceejay: Yeah, Loeb/Maduriera was not just a step down in the quality of the Ultimate line, it was a flaming nosedive at terminal velocity fo rexactly the reasons you mentioned. Loeb/MAD just did another boring take on the Avengers. That story could've been (and should've been) done in the 616. Although, I do think that they could get back to where we were before Ultimatum with the new creative teams currently listed. For as massively stupid as the Ultimatum event was, it'd be equally stupid not to try to get back to what made the Ultimate line good, the realism, the more mature themes.
alekesam - 8/25/2011, 1:49 AM
There's no edit button here but when I mentioned Brand new day, I meant One More Day.
vexfly - 8/25/2011, 1:53 AM
I don't particularly care for constant reincarnations of killed off characters (if Parker is dead he should stay it) nor do I care for cheap gimmicks packaged as drastic changes of character/key-line story. I can understand if a character's personality changes over time or if their abilities develop into something different but the whole concept of having someone else dawn the title and image of already established character is BS. Robin was never Batman, just Robin dressed as Batman. Miles will never be Spiderman, just a guy dressed as Spiderman.

Even if I knew of Miles from day one of knowing Parker, I wouldn't be able to justify calling him Spiderman, maybe a replacement by a different monker but with strong similarities with Parker's rogue gallery and tie-in cameos from various personalities from that "world", but he's no Spiderman.

But then again, I don't read or care for anything with "ultimate" in the title so... party on wayne and party on garth
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