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COMICS: Alonso, Brevoort And Wacker Discuss AMAZING And SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN

Axel Alonso, Tom Brevoort and Stephen Wacker share their thoughts on the end of Amazing Spider-Man #700 and drop more hints as to what we should expect when Doctor Octopus takes over as The Superior Spider-Man next year.

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By Josh Wilding - 12/27/2012

"My initial reaction was less than positive," laughs Marvel's Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso when asked by Comic Book Resources how he felt when he learned of Dan Slott's plans for Amazing Spider-Man #700. "But that was before I heard exactly where Dan would be taking the story, the twists and turns and surprises. At that point, Dan had me on the hook. This story is risky. It was bound to be controversial, but it's going to be riveting for Spider-Man fans." Of course, it wasn't too long ago that another Peter Parker was killed off; the teenage version from the Ultimate Universe. However, Alonso was never concerned about any similarities between the two stories. "[The] story Dan is going to tell, and the story that [Ultimate Comics Spider-Man writer] Brian [Michael Bendis] told are very, very different. For starters, Otto Octavius is no Miles Morales!"

Editor Steve Wacker has also been vocal in his defence of this new direction for Spider-Man, and he told the site that just because Doctor Octopus has the body and memories of Peter Parker, it doesn't mean that we're going to see a sudden change in attitude. "We will see right away in "Superior Spider-Man" #1 that Doc's path is rife with moments where his more evil, ruthless nature is striving for control. Of course, at the same time he'll need to juggle the various relationships in Pete's life -- which means it's really the first time Dock Ock will have ever had to worry about other people. But while he might have Pete's memories, Doc ain't gonna be a nice guy. We see the results of that very early on." Executive Editor and Senior Vice President of Publishing Tom Brevoort meanwhile remains confident that this version of Spider-Man will one day be as fondly remembered as Ben Reilly now is. "20 years from now people will be saying, 'Isn't there some way we could bring back the Superior Spider-Man? I dug all those comics.'"

Source: Comic Book Resources
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TrueMarvel - 12/27/2012, 2:20 PM
Why do they fool themselves into believing we care about otto octavius?
SuperSomething616 - 12/27/2012, 2:25 PM
"20 years from now people will be saying, 'Isn't there some way we could bring back the Superior Spider-Man?"

So basically Brevoort just confirmed that he doesn't expect this to be the permanent status quo...I feel a little better!!
Hellsboy - 12/27/2012, 2:29 PM
Honestly this is so dumb ,even the editors can't even kid themselves how stupid this change is
Hellsboy - 12/27/2012, 2:32 PM
@levi
You and me both ,much better way to go
jimpinto24 - 12/27/2012, 2:37 PM
I'm tired of TSSM comics being shoved down my throat!
SupermansBeard - 12/27/2012, 2:45 PM
I'm not one to bash on the change of comics. I was really supportive of the New 52, I love what they've done with Batman, I also am now a fan of the All-New X-Men. Some of the things I've followed haven't always been popular so I always try to give things a chance, and to be honest I did that with this book, but after thinking about it and thinking about it and THINKING ABOUT IT!! I think this was a terrible move by Marvel to try and "mix things up"...I was able to stomach the death of Peter Parker in the Ultimate Universe, but this is ridiculous. How is the death of the Peter Parker in the not-main universe incredibly more epic than this? This is THE Peter Parker!! Lame
scarecr0w13 - 12/27/2012, 2:46 PM
its a bad idea, and even worse timing. its still pete in the avengers book right now. they should have dropped spidey off any teams and kept this contained to one book. hes set to make appearances everywhere over the next few month or two, which just makes a bad idea worse, if the last page of the last daredevil issue is any clue of whats to come.
marvel72 - 12/27/2012, 2:56 PM
already missing parker,bring him back.
rocketeuropa - 12/27/2012, 3:01 PM
It isn't that the idea is bad (-it borders alot on science fiction which, I think, is an ill-fit for Spider-Man), it's that it's executed so badly. The art is so stilted, so stiff and looks too much like manga, which was the WORSE thing to ever happen to comics. I'm trying to imagine if this would have worked better if John Romita Sr. drew it and gave the story REAL guts.
Ahhh, who am I kidding? Marvel died in theSeventies and is never coming back.
Robe - 12/27/2012, 3:05 PM
LAME!
ralfinader - 12/27/2012, 3:09 PM
Intruder - 12/27/2012, 2:43 PM
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20 years from now.. we are never going to hear about this or Dan Slott or Tom Brevoort ever again.


Amen to that. Interesting idea horribly executed, and taken to far. Hope everyone that said 'yes' to this idea is out of the business in two years, let alone twenty.
RedandBlue - 12/27/2012, 3:09 PM
@SuperSomething616

I think he was just giving an example, but you are right.

Hopefully Ock won't have a 20 year reign though.

That being said, the first issue will hopefully shed some light on what's going on.

They kinda left the door open for Peter to come back, hopefully they don't close them.
ACira - 12/27/2012, 3:14 PM
I'd really like to know what Stan Lee and Steve Ditko think of this turn of events, and their arguably most celebrated and beloved character being replaced by a villainous impostor, with such poor execution in the event itself.
BenderDickCumPatch - 12/27/2012, 3:25 PM
@Acira- Slott got his ass handed to him on his Twitter by Stan Lee.

Fcking hilarious. Dont mess with Stan.

Shit comic
Lostcause - 12/27/2012, 3:29 PM
I bet anything, Peter's "soul" will fight Doc Ock and win, in the year to come, anyway. We will get Peter back. I started a petition on Change.org "Bring Back Peter Parker". Just in case. Doc will have a meltdown and Peter will Breal throught and bye, bye Otto!
VIRILEMAN - 12/27/2012, 3:32 PM
So they are doing this in hopes that in 20 years people MIGHT look back on it fondly? What a bunch of morons. Spider-Man for the past 25 years has been my favorite superhero. I don't know if that's true anymore. Thanks Slott.
Greengo - 12/27/2012, 3:46 PM
Uhhh wtf is going on here?
Shadowelfz - 12/27/2012, 3:58 PM
Of course they are cool with it, they agreed to let Slott do his thing. They're as guilty as him for this abomination.

If this was ultimates, cool. If this was what if cool. But 616? Not cool. Slott wants to do something different with spiderman than make another spiderman. Hell having DOC Ock make a spiderman knock off spiderman suit and running around would be okay but sticking him peters body? Again not cool.

[frick] Slott and [frick] Marvel.
hope420 - 12/27/2012, 3:59 PM
Poop writing from an idiotic writer!!!
CaptainObvious - 12/27/2012, 4:00 PM
Everytime I hear Wacker talk, one of my brain cells die.

"20 years from now people will be saying, 'Isn't there some way we could bring back the Superior Spider-Man? I dug all those comics."

I won't be one of those people because I will never read SSM. Nobody wants to see an evil bastard pretending to be Peter Parker.
the1stavenger - 12/27/2012, 4:16 PM
Is there anyone other than the people on Marvel's payroll who like this? They've got Issue #1 to win me back
ACira - 12/27/2012, 4:20 PM
@MaskedVigilante just read it, gotta love Stan Lee
CaptainObvious - 12/27/2012, 4:39 PM
I'm going to be pissed if Peter comes back to life and still does not know that he sold his marriage to Mephisto.
jasonicus - 12/27/2012, 4:54 PM
These guys will say anything to save face. They know deep down this is a bad idea. Just lame and a travesty.
Aryakin - 12/27/2012, 5:04 PM
didn't take them long to back out of the "this is the new status quo" shit
Almight - 12/27/2012, 5:11 PM
This is the dumbest thing Marvel has ever done! What the heck were they thinking?
MrZoolittle - 12/27/2012, 5:36 PM
poor peter parker, marvel has slowly been going down the drain. I don't read anything marvel anymore.
lapress - 12/27/2012, 5:39 PM
You know your a prick when the creator of the reason why your even working thinks you can't write. Stan Lee was probably his idol and his idol. That must burn.
lsc2222 - 12/27/2012, 6:10 PM
I'm impressed with this whole thing, I truly am. It really takes some serious skill to ruin a classic hero AND villain all in one swipe.

"This is going to be riveting for Spider-Man fans"....yeah, the few that are left. I'm sure all 3 of them will be hanging on for every issue.

But seriously...I'm beginning to think Marvel hates Spidey. "One More Day" and now this? Have they run out of good ideas (rhetorical question, I know they have) or are they following Quesada's lead and trying their best to just ruin this character now?
SpideyQuad - 12/27/2012, 6:57 PM
Well it's obvious from that statement that this will be a contained story over a year or two, or however many arcs it takes for the story to be told.

I'm thinking on what "Lostcause" Wrote: slowly but surely Peter's psyche will begin to influence Octavius's. No doubt at the end though make him a hero and reinstate Peter.

I also agree that they should be contained at least to the Spider books for consistency reasons. But I have to admit one of the more curious aspects of this premise is how the Avengers will deal with his altered personality.
0bstreperous - 12/27/2012, 7:07 PM
What did ras say about criminals thriving on societies understanding?

In the wake of all these mass murders and bleeding hearts swearing they were crazy and its not their fault give the bad guys like ock what they deserve

A slow and painful death
Erojuan - 12/27/2012, 7:27 PM
How lame can they be?
lsc2222 - 12/27/2012, 7:30 PM
Look I'm all for superheroes retiring or stepping down or dying and being replaced by someone else...if done right.

Dick Grayson as Batman? Sounds good in theory, but DC screwed the pooch on that one hard.

Miles Morales taking over after Peter dies in USM? I was pretty shocked and less then happy when I heard the news but I think it's worked out okay so far.

Bucky Barnes taking over as Cap? Sure, it could've been worse I guess.

Although the original "Clone Saga" was a complete and tragic mess I think the Ben Reilly character rocked and I had no problem with him taking over as Spider-Man, although in hindsight it was still pretty much Peter.

This won't impact me too much though, I stopped reading Spider-Man after Quesada took a giant steaming s**t all over the character.

But this...this is low. Peter was always known for getting out of tight spots, always known for pulling out a victory at the last second. That WAS Spider-Man, the "never say die" mentality and it was always great to see him pull out a win. But to have him go down like this and to have him replaced by Doc Ock...just sad.

Peter dying in glorious battle? Sure. Peter retiring to live life with MJ? No problem. Peter dying because the villain pulls some major BS and ends up winning? No way.

Those responsible for this...may your careers come to end in the most agonizingly slow and painful way possible....oh and you to Quesada.
ClarkFarley2012 - 12/27/2012, 7:38 PM
Doc Ock as Spiderman.. SMFH..
AUSSYACE - 12/27/2012, 8:10 PM
The only thing that these guys should be discussing is when to cancel this fricking debacle...

sosa4693 - 12/27/2012, 8:12 PM
my guess is that the book will last for another 2 years. doc ock will probably feel the overwhelming responsibility of being spidey and peter will some how be resurrected (golden octobot)
mgeoff88 - 12/27/2012, 8:41 PM
We should expect to see significant drops in Spider-Man comics sales.

What Spider-Man fan is truly OK with this? We know Peter Parker will end up being back in his own body.

This is just pointless and ridiculous! Spider-Man(Peter Parker) deserves better!!!

@dickbelt LMAO! You better make sure Dan Slott doesn't see that; you might give him an idea. :P
OtakuPapi - 12/27/2012, 8:41 PM
I repeat....Otto died thinking he was Peter Parker...And Parker thinks he is Otto with Parkers Memories. It seems a bit obvious!
CrashTest - 12/27/2012, 8:42 PM
PAaaaaaaasssss. Doc Ock gets Parkers Life and his woman and Parker get shitted on??? Oct's bone'N MJ??? Pass, that just wrong, wrong, wrong to do my man Parker like that.
CrashTest - 12/27/2012, 8:44 PM
@Otakupapi

I was thinking the something. That when Parker use the helm, his memories just merged with Oct's. So not a brain swap but more of a mistaking identity.
redkrypton - 12/27/2012, 9:02 PM
30 years ago, this would have just been a storyline, albeit an arguabally fascinating one, instead of the cancellation of a book and the relaunch with a new title.
KaneRomita - 12/27/2012, 9:07 PM
Man, you guys.. Let's hear some theories about how Peter can get out of this situation. Obviously Peter will be back and his journey will be an event (Cap Reborn... Return of Bruce Wayne) Why get mad.?
It's a tried and true formula. Deny people what they love for awhile to remind them why they love it in the first place.. then bring it back.

Personally, I think Peter transferred himself into the gold octobot and he's going to come back with an Ock-like grand scheme that will remind everyone why Peter is the man.

Slott loves Peter Parker more than all of us. It's gonna be ok.
Aryakin - 12/27/2012, 11:12 PM
Dr. Strange happens by peter, realizes somethings up, follows him around for a bit in the astral plane... 20 mins. later probes his brain finds anomoly snaps his fingers and all is right in the world... terrible story is terrible and only a certain amount of "convenience" would have this carry on longer than a week in the marvel universe. Not to mention, mj freaks out after learning who she banged and becomes a mental case, while aunt may commits suicide after realizing she cheered on her nephews demise and ultimately parkers ability to be so duped with a "mind swap" gets him kicked off the avengers/fantastic four as they operate in too sensitive of cases to warrant such a security risk. Continual brain pattern monitoring becomes mandatory of all avengers within 3 days.
Sasquatch123 - 12/28/2012, 12:47 AM
Marvel the House of Bad ideas smfh ,REALLY where do they find these hacks ,to many cartoons phony drama to boost sales bad writing period ... slott you suck so much do@@##$%$^%^&%^&*^*((()( OK , cancel spidey pull check .. geez
logicoflame - 12/28/2012, 12:58 AM
Came across this, I am going to sign it, our voices need to be heard some how even though Alonso says the internet doesn't count.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cancel-superior-spider-man-and-return-peter-parker/

It wont get it canceled but at least show Marvel fans are not happy.
evyllsummer - 12/28/2012, 4:42 AM
LOL! Brevoort...seriously? I think any "fond memories" lingering about Reilly and the Clone Saga is that fans were "fond" of the eventual END. The Clone Saga WAS highly regarded as the WORST Spiderman story arc of all time. Of course, we NOW know that Slott will own that dubious honor in mere months if he doesn't already.

Of course, this is probably going cause a bump in trade sales of Spidey story arcs that were actually GOOD, so they will call that a win. And when sales take a jump when Peter eventually comes back, they will call THAT a win, too.

It always aggravates me when they try so hard to sell these deaths as the status quo and insult our intelligence by attempting to convince us that Peter's return isn't inevitable.

Again, though, wasn't buying Spidey before, won't be buying him now. I jumped ship when JMS left.

I think I'll finally pick up the ASM bluray this weekend, too...
CaptainSpain - 12/28/2012, 5:10 AM
Tautology, an exemple:

Otto Octavius is a mass murderer.
Spider man is Otto Octavius right now.
It means,
Spider man is a mass murderer.
Nivekian - 12/28/2012, 6:27 AM
Pretty sad to think most Marvel Editors have their status from how well they buddied up to Joe Q. Just all the back patting and talking about fans as unreasonable character conservatives or as goldfish who forget plotlines in a month makes me ill. It is like they are unaware that good ideas to yes men don't translate to fans who have seen and experienced thousands of ideas & stories before. And Doc ock? Why not Norman Osbourne? He is Spideys main baddie, not Doc Ock.
weaponX2 - 12/28/2012, 8:46 AM
I love Spider-Man and have been a fan since the early 70's and I really hate that they killed Pete, especially by replacing him with Otto Octavius, but at the same time I find it a little interesting and would like to see where it goes...we all know that at some point they will bring Peter back, but to be honest I really hope that they don't just to piss off all of the whiners..seriously...I know it sucks, but it's just a story..one of many that we may or may not like, and I'm sure that there will be many many more...suck it up guys...either get on the bandwagon or don't , but please quit your boo-hooing..please, don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing anyone nor trying to show any disrespect, as I am a diehard fan myself, but I've learned that NOTHING is permanent in comics, and there is no point in getting upset over story arcs, because they'll work themselves out eventually...just try to enjoy it for what it is and call it a day...if you can't, then read something else..ok, that's it...I'm done...we now return you to your previously scheduled program, already in progress..
PeterDarker - 12/28/2012, 12:05 PM
These...people...are... absolutely... delusional.
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