Thorbuster Creator Mike Grell Shares His Thoughts On It Showing Up In The MCU

It's unlikely that we will see the Thorbuster armor in this May's Iron Man 3, but in a recent retrospective about the creation of the Arsgardian powered suit, creator Mike Grell has shared his thoughts on how a live-action battle between a suited up Tony Stark and Thor would go down.

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The battle between Iron Man and Thor ended in a stalemate in Marvel's The Avengers, although the God of Thunder clearly had the advantage. However, there's a certain suit of armor that would definitely mean that Tony Stark would be able to hold his own against the Son of Odin. A decade ago, the "Thorbuster" armor made its debut in the pages of Iron Man #64, and creator Mike Grell had this to say in a recent interview with MTV Splash Page. "Seems to me you're talking about the difference between technology and the power of the gods. Tony is a scientist and engineer who understands every aspect of the technological world. He'd probably think magic is just mumbo jumbo... until he saw it work for real. Then, even if he couldn't explain it, he'd have to admit it exists and would try to find a way to utilize it." In the comics, Tony was able to use this suit - which was powered by an Asgardian crystal - to stop Mjolnir from hitting him and redirect Thor's thunderous attacks. In the end, Thor ripped the suit of Tony (who made his escape in a regular suit of armor moments later). So, how does Grell think a similar battle would go down on the big screen? "Exactly the same. This is Hollywood. Thou shalt not break the formula." Be sure to click on the link below to read much, much more about the Thorbuster armor!






Marvel Studios’ Iron Man 3 pits brash-but-brilliant industrialist Tony Stark/Iron Man against an enemy whose reach knows no bounds. When Stark finds his personal world destroyed at his enemy’s hands, he embarks on a harrowing quest to find those responsible. This journey, at every turn, will test his mettle. With his back against the wall, Stark is left to survive by his own devices, relying on his ingenuity and instincts to protect those closest to him. As he fights his way back, Stark discovers the answer to the question that has secretly haunted him: does the man make the suit or does the suit make the man?


STARRING:

Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man
Ben Kingsley as The Mandarin
Gwyneth Paltrow as Pepper Potts
Don Cheadle as Rhodey/War Machine
Guy Pearce as Aldrich Killian
Rebecca Hall as Dr. Maya Hansen
Ashley Hamilton as Jack Taggert
James Badge Dale as Eric Savin
Jon Favreau as Happy Hogan

RELEASE DATE: April 25th, 2013 (UK). May 3rd, 2013 (US).


Source: MTV Splash Page
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113 - 3/14/2013, 12:52 PM
Iron Man must always lose against Thor, just as Iron Man always loses against Hulk even with Hulk Buster armor. These are just common sense things that should never change.

In the DCU, Superman always should beat Batman, again, common sense thing that shouldn't be an argument but it always is with Bat-Fanboys.
Spartan - 3/14/2013, 12:52 PM
Thor would never lose to Stark.
LordoftheThrones26 - 3/14/2013, 12:54 PM
Id love to see it in a movie!
LordoftheThrones26 - 3/14/2013, 12:55 PM
SUPERMAN BEATS BATMAN GET OVER IT NOLANITES AND BATFANS!
DanteSparda - 3/14/2013, 12:57 PM
I'm still waiting for the Ghostbusters armor with the voice changer of Ray Parker.
DanteSparda - 3/14/2013, 12:58 PM
"In the DCU, Superman always should beat Batman, again, common sense thing that shouldn't be an argument but it always is with Bat-Fanboys."

The Dark Knight Returns.
JatevinM - 3/14/2013, 1:02 PM
If the Hulk and Thor buster suits make their appearance in the movies I would prefer it to clear that even the suits are no match for the real thing. Sure they allow Tony to hold his own for awhile but ultimately the Thorbuster doesn't out Thor the real thing and the Hulkbuster doesn't out Hulk the real thing.
JatevinM - 3/14/2013, 1:03 PM
The only reason Superman would lose to Batman is if Kryptonite is present.
MrMartinMarvel - 3/14/2013, 1:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it does show up in the movie.
Thegeekygurl - 3/14/2013, 1:08 PM
Because of RDJ's popularity as Iron Man Marvel Films and Comics have Iron Man doing things the armor just could not do.
If Thor can hit cars hard enough to send 5 tons flying through the air, one hit from Thor would cause such massive damage to the Iron Man armor the suit would be instantly totaled.
The suit would have so many elements that must fit together perfectly just to be able to move. A hit from Thor would dislocate, bend or break essential parts of the suit instantly. Not to mention crush vital electronic hardware and even send massive shockwaves into the one wearing the suit.

Iron Man can be fun to watch but the armor concept we see in the film is completely implausible.
DanteSparda - 3/14/2013, 1:11 PM
@1geekygurl

Science fiction.
Seejay - 3/14/2013, 1:12 PM

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Thorbuster or not, Iron Man still lose.
LordOfTheZegaRealm - 3/14/2013, 1:14 PM
@Rob2814 How do know it's not humorous, the movie hasn't came out yet.
Ramiel - 3/14/2013, 1:14 PM
Thor would crush IM. Thor would also defeat Green Lantern, Gusto.
KNIGHT3000 - 3/14/2013, 1:18 PM
113
WORD, just like how Peter Parker can kick the $hit outta Tony Stark, Tony's cool, but he has no chance against Peter... Pete could crumble Tony's suit with him in it
cmax - 3/14/2013, 1:18 PM
While I love the idea of the Hulk and Thor Buster armors, I have to agree with Bob Layton "I felt that the regular armor has always been sufficient to 'bust up' the Hulk."

Pre-Hulkbuster (the first "buster" armor type) Iron Man had went toe-to-toe with both Hulk and Thor on more than one occasion and was able to hold his own.

Once, he knocked out the Hulk by focusing all of his suit's power into his right hand, and gave Hulk a super punch! Knocked the bastard out (at the expense of his life support).

I love the busters, but I don't like when the regular armor is sometimes not given the credit it deserves.
KNIGHT3000 - 3/14/2013, 1:21 PM
Anybody that thinks Batman can REALLY beat Superman has no common sense and are ridiculously ignorant. Superman doesn't even need to be on the same planet to kill Batman... and Hulk. Its TRUE THOUGH!
LordOfTheZegaRealm - 3/14/2013, 1:21 PM
Yeah Ironman doesn't have much of a chance.
MediaMan - 3/14/2013, 1:22 PM
Thor v Iron Man in The Avengers "ended in a stalemate??" I'm sorry, were my eyes deceiving me when Thor ended it by knocking IM flat backward with one blow without even looking at him? Granted, IM might/could have gotten back up, but Whedon knocked Tony's power level up by 400% just so he could hang with Thor for at least a little while.

I don't see IM being able to deal with Thor for an extended period of time, even with the Thorbuster armor. Thor is ultimately just too powerful, and we rarely see him really let loose.
LordOfTheZegaRealm - 3/14/2013, 1:23 PM
Which would win? Hulk or Superman I say Superman.
Thegeekygurl - 3/14/2013, 1:24 PM
@DanteSparda Even so, in that world he should not be able to withstand a strike from Thor. Best thing a writer could do is just not write it.
third3ye - 3/14/2013, 1:30 PM
High likelihood we'll see the Destroyer/Thorbuster and (the real) Hulkbuster suits in A2, given that Whedon has said he wants more interactions within the team (aka tension and infighting), and some of the suits that'll be shown in IM3 are probably prototypes for the Thorbuster and Hulkbuster.
GodzillaKart - 3/14/2013, 1:33 PM
Ah, look at knight, starting that old Hulk/Superman argument again. :)

Although I find Hulk to be a far more interesting character, Superman just has too many powers not to win. Flight and super speed alone seal the deal. Only in a toe to toe slugfest would the Hulk win, and why would Superman do that?
thebearjew - 3/14/2013, 1:38 PM
@113 ur [frick]ing kidding right?? Batman always beats superman must be a typo everyone knows batman owns the league seen JL doom? Read HUSH?
in that avatar picture you have batman beats supes ass
LordOfTheZegaRealm - 3/14/2013, 1:41 PM
Superman beats batman it's logic.
SageMode - 3/14/2013, 1:42 PM
SageMode - 3/14/2013, 1:43 PM
And BTW, off topic but regarding some comments, Batman NEVER beat Superman in New Earth/Mainstream canon continuity.
SimyJo - 3/14/2013, 1:45 PM


No contest.
thebearjew - 3/14/2013, 1:47 PM
im not going to argue about this you can yell and scream that gravity doesntexist that the earth isnt round and like those its just a fact bats beats supermans ass everytime its just pure skill determination intelligence
SageMode - 3/14/2013, 1:52 PM
INDIGOBOLT956

mdwilliamson24 - 3/14/2013, 1:57 PM
Yeah, if Tony could simply build an armor that would allow him to beat someone like the Hulk or Thor (buster armors) then he would just wear that one ALL the time.
I understand he designs armors to allow him to go up against different threats, but if an armor would allow you to withstand Thors arsenal, it would pretty much allow you to beat anyone else.
Tony with "Thorbuster" will only last a few extra hits, but he still loses in the end. Same with Hulk/Hulkbuster matchup.
johnblake - 3/14/2013, 2:02 PM
OMG WHO CARES. VEGETA COULD BEAT TONY AND THOR AT THE SAME TIME. ;0
MarTooth - 3/14/2013, 2:08 PM
Every hero has a weakness, the main one for Tony Stark is his Ego. They've also developed well and underlying trust issue into the character so of COURSE he's going to try and make him self armors designed to counter the other Avengers due to those trust issues and due to a god complex dictating to his subconcious that he must be the most kick-ass hero there is. That's the fun part of a well written and portrayed egocentric character tho, seeing him fail, eat humble pie amd jave to re-build his ego which thus drives his intellect to improve on what has gone before. With a lesser actor Iron Man would never have worked, with Robert Downer Jr... So yes, expecting to see him going toe to toe with the all the Avengers at some point, expected Hulkbuster, expected Thorbuster, do I expect these armos to defeat the real thing, no but going to be fun to watch and see how the characters deal with it afterwards on a personal level :D
SimyJo - 3/14/2013, 2:12 PM
My dad really could beat up your dad batz11!;

grifdeadpoolteabag - 3/14/2013, 2:12 PM
It's been very well established in "Thor" and "The Avengers," that 'the power of the gods' IS technology.

Don't these hipster mutants pay attention???
siggisuperman - 3/14/2013, 2:14 PM
I would like to point out that Batman would and has beat Superman. Sure if Superman attacked Batman without warning he would rip him to shreds. But Batman has always had kryptonite in his possession since learning about supermans weakness.

Batman has the technology to engineer kryptonite napalm. He has spent many many hours thinking about how to beat superman if it would ever come to it, while Superman has probably given beating batman little thought.

TL;DR Batman would use kryptonite to beat Supes cause he's the goddamn Batman!
siggisuperman - 3/14/2013, 2:20 PM
and also, Howard Stark finds the asgardian artifact, The Tesseract at the end of Captain America. He studies it and makes a lot of notes in his notebook (you can see a drawing of the cube when Tony is discovering the "new element" in IM2)

Tony then uses his fathers research to make a new power source for his suit so he doesn't die. The Power Source is based on Howard Starks research of the Asgardian Relic The Tesseract. So his suits after IM2 are powered by asgardian magic, he just doesn't know it, because

"magic's just science we don't understand yet" -Jane Foster and

"Your ancestors called it magic... but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same. " - Thor Odinsson

Which is why Tony's suit becomes hyper-charged when Thor hits him with his Asgardian Magic in The Avengers
Tanngnjostr - 3/14/2013, 2:58 PM
@TankD
Those are from Straczynski's Thor run. The fight between Thor and Iron Man is in Thor #3 (Vol.3).
knighted - 3/14/2013, 3:06 PM
Didn't ironman almost beat Thor with normal armor in avengers. Thorbuster armor should put him over the top.
Ramiel - 3/14/2013, 3:26 PM
@knighted

No way would IM defeat Thor. People have posted up images where Thor destroyed IM in Thorbuster armor.
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