Avi Arad And Matt Tolmach Describe Spider-Man Spin-Off SINISTER SIX As A "Redemption" Story

Wait, what?! I'm not sure about you guys, but I'd much rather see the Sinister Six taking on Spider-Man instead of finding "redemption"! However, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 produce Avi Arad believes that we'll all love seeing the villains find their way back. Read on for the bizarre details...

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By Josh Wilding - 4/11/2014

Maybe it's just me, but when it was revealed that Sony were working on a Sinister Six movie, I envisioned it as an event picture like The Avengers where they would all team-up to take out Spider-Man. Perhaps the unique draw would be that the movie would take place from their perspective (making Spidey the "villain" so to speak"), and while that could still happen, it atcually sounds as if producers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach have something far more unusual in mind! 

"There's no such thing as just a villain," Matt Tolmach told IGN Movies in a recent interview. "There are villains by virtue of choices that people make but they always begin as humans, as characters. As flawed people; as tragic people. You know great movies have been made about a bunch of bad guys who get together to do something. Those are sometimes the greatest characters to watch. A bunch of broken people coming together for whatever reason."

Meanwhile, Avi Arad’s vision for this version of the Sinister Six sounds even more peculiar, as he seemed to be under the impression that audiences will enjoy seeing the likes of Green Goblin and Rhino find redemption than they would be seeing them take on Spider-Man. "As long as there's that one thing in common: they'll hate Spider-Man. They'll hate him because he's so different from them. But then, you know when you sit by yourself somewhere and you think about it, they all had a different life at one time and that's what's so beautiful about the Spider-Man universe. They have amazing stories if you look at it. And everybody's looking for redemption; they're unforgiven. Would you see one of the Sinister Six starting to feel like that? Yes. And people love it, by the way. They love when a villain finds his way back because we're all very forgiving." What do you guys think about these comments? Sound off below!
Source: IGN Movies
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MrSotoMan - 4/11/2014, 9:13 AM
Wait what!? REDEMPTION!?!??!
MrCBM56 - 4/11/2014, 9:20 AM
So a suicide squad type thing?
TheAbaryMan369 - 4/11/2014, 9:22 AM
The Shawshank Redemption :D
Lozzy - 4/11/2014, 9:22 AM
Avi Arad??? Why is that [frick]tard still in the movie business?
GinjaNinja - 4/11/2014, 9:23 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DrDoom - 4/11/2014, 9:23 AM
GizmoEl - 4/11/2014, 9:23 AM
Hopefully it's good. I don't want to have to choose whether I root for the Sinister Six or Spidey when they inevitably go up against eachother. But I like what they said earlier when they said that there are villains who are just pure evil, and then those that are just misunderstood. It'd be nice if they explored that and how the evil ones just corrupt the not so bad ones
GinjaNinja - 4/11/2014, 9:23 AM
Ok.... well I may have just lost my desire for the spideyverse to join with the MCU........
Doopie - 4/11/2014, 9:24 AM
so Lizard 'turns good' and helps Spidey defeat the rest?
JoeMomma29 - 4/11/2014, 9:24 AM
@MrCBM

Ummm no The Suicide Squad was sort of forced to do go things because they had a bomb put around their neck.
ruadh - 4/11/2014, 9:25 AM
Damn....I was hoping they'd do a kinda Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers thing with this...sounds like that's what they're doing.

Come on, a group of psychopaths trying to go legit, led by a nut who can barely control himself? Ought to be very interesting.
Comedian03 - 4/11/2014, 9:26 AM
The premise has the potential to be the coolest thing to happen to CBM's in a long time, something fresh and new that we haven't seen before.

That being said, adding in this whole redemption thing? No, if it's going to be a redemption story then it's really not a villains movie is it? What makes a villain, a villain, is them doing these evil and horrible things, not redeeming themselves.
DrDoom - 4/11/2014, 9:26 AM
So let me get this straight . . . .

A movie called the 'SINISTER SIX' is about a group of six villains . . . . who aren't really sinister at all? Since they want 'redemption' rather than . . . . oh, I don't know, taking on Spider-Man, which was the whole point of coming together as a team in the first place?

The Sinister Six didn't form because they wanted group therapy.

The Sinister Six formed for a single reason: TO KILL SPIDER-MAN.

JoeMomma29 - 4/11/2014, 9:26 AM
These producers, writers, and directors need to understand that Spider-Man and Batman exists because of these baddies, that is why Spidey and Bats are so popular.

Do not try to fix something that is not broken.
ruadh - 4/11/2014, 9:26 AM
Also, REALLY sounds like Spider-Man isn't a part of this, so these guys are the main characters. Flawed characters are the most interesting, and these guys have flaws in spades.
JoeMomma29 - 4/11/2014, 9:26 AM
@ DrDoom

Exactly!!!!!!!
MrMartinMarvel - 4/11/2014, 9:27 AM
REDEMPTION? We're finally getting a villain centric movie, and your going to pussify them in order to make them relatable? Let the bad guys be bad goddamnit!
ALegendaryPanda - 4/11/2014, 9:27 AM
Hmm, I actually really like this idea. As long as they do end up fighting Spider-man at some point.
ruadh - 4/11/2014, 9:27 AM
Why do comic fans STILL insist on expecting literal page-to-screen translations of comic books? You can count on one hand how many comic movies play out exactly like the books. Even Watchmen changed some things.
kinghulk - 4/11/2014, 9:27 AM
well this guy has no idea what he's talking about
McNyagano - 4/11/2014, 9:28 AM
What happened to my comment? Sorry for the spoiler Josh.:/ Anyways, if anyone wants to know what they mean by 'redemption', send me a meesage;)
GliderMan - 4/11/2014, 9:29 AM
So Suicide Squad.

Great.
BatManiac - 4/11/2014, 9:30 AM
Redemption!?!?

kinghulk - 4/11/2014, 9:30 AM
i suppose it will be ok as long as the sinister six do actually fight spiderman
DaVinci31 - 4/11/2014, 9:30 AM
I don't want to sympathize with villains anymore, do something new.
MrBatmor - 4/11/2014, 9:32 AM
So they meet each other in one of those self help groups!?...:P

their conversations be like

hey man I just couldnt stop myself from killing all those people
..
but I was 10 days sober before that

yeah mate,I just cut my nebhours hand...i think iam in control now

lets have coffee and treats now!!
BatManiac - 4/11/2014, 9:32 AM
Seriously, [frick] Redemption! I want to see them team up Avengers-Style to beat the shit out of Spider-Man!
ComicsBornAndBred - 4/11/2014, 9:33 AM
That's actually---some dum shit. They're gonna ruin this cinematic universe before it even gets started. These films are gonna bomb hard. Wow---THATS THE STUPIDEST SHIT I EVER HEARD!!! So te villi as are anti heroes now or something??? That means they're NOT VILLIANS anymore ou dipshits.
ComicsBornAndBred - 4/11/2014, 9:34 AM
It shouldn't be a teamup film that focuses on their plans and strategies goes on how to kill Spidey and then showcase that battle.
Comedian03 - 4/11/2014, 9:34 AM
This is absolute proof that Sony has no balls whatsoever. Instead of pushing the envelope, and giving us something we've never seen before, instead of giving u something fresh and new, they're giving us the same thing we've seen time and time again.

It's time to nut up or shut up, Sony.
DrDoom - 4/11/2014, 9:35 AM
This is what happens when a bunch of old white people who don't understand the properties they control make films about beloved characters.

ALmazing - 4/11/2014, 9:35 AM
Reaction GIF: what?, confused, suspicious, Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

DaVinci31 - 4/11/2014, 9:36 AM
I rather see them turn down this "redemption", make it a tragedy.
MrMartinMarvel - 4/11/2014, 9:36 AM
What is it with Hollywood and "relatable villains"? If you're going to make a villain movie then make a villain movie. Have them murdering people and kicking the crap out of Spider-Man, that's what the people wanna see!
ComicsBornAndBred - 4/11/2014, 9:36 AM
The guys who wrote Star Trek 2 wrote Spidey 2 so---I expect shit. You can te they try to over crowd the film as some sinister six pre team up but didn't they Learn anything from Spidey 3?? You gotta have a slow calculating build up to sinister six. What made them think they could do this?
McNyagano - 4/11/2014, 9:38 AM
Guys watch TASM2 first before jumping to conclusions.
SentaiNerdist - 4/11/2014, 9:39 AM

See more on Know Your Meme
CorndogBurglar - 4/11/2014, 9:39 AM
No, its not like Suicide Squad, to the two people that said that.

Suicide Squad were put together by the government, had bombs strapped to their necks, and FORCED to go do missions.

That isn't the same thing and WANTING to find redemption. Thats being made to do something so you don't die.

Two totally different things.
MrBatmor - 4/11/2014, 9:39 AM
@yoss dont forget the fact that we absolutely dont give a shit about electro in the 3rd act...
MrNiklander - 4/11/2014, 9:40 AM
Oh boy we gonna get some drama queens in Sinister Six.................................................................................................................................................PASS!!!!!!!
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