EDITORIAL: These Bloody Infinity Stones In The MCU

Lately, there's been a heckuva lot of confusion surrounding the Infinity Stones in the MCU and I know I'm not the only one muddled up by the whole affair. So, to that end, I've decided to take a step back, back-track and look at the grander spectrum of all this stuff. Hit the jump to hear my thoughts...

Follow NovaCorpsFan:
By NovaCorpsFan - 6/5/2014

The Infinity Stones

So, I'm sure everybody's feeling suitable chastised after all this tom-foolery regarding the Infinity stones being presented to us in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Well, fear not, I'm going to attempt to cast some light on the subject. I'm going to be taking a look at everything we've seen and heard about the stones so far and compiling that to try and make some sort of sense out of everything. With that said, let's examine the first stone to which we were presented in the MCU, the Tesseract/Spage Stone.



 
Now, there's that popular theory that the stones themselves are merely storage points for energy that will be later implanted into the Infinity Gauntlet. That's pretty substantial as the Tesseract acts as a source of power. But let's just go back to Captain America: The First Avenger here for a minute. We see the cube fire energy blasts, open a portal to space and provide power to weaponry & machinery. That shows us that the Tesseract doesnt need to be linked to something to actually provide it with energy, there just needs to be the presence of the Tesseract's own energy. We see it picked up by Howard Stark, who we learn in Iron Man 2 had been experimenting on it (remember the diagrams in his notes?). The result of this experimentation was the arc reactor. Which then leads to Tony upgrading the arc reactor because his father's work was UNfinished. Tony creates a new element which provides his chest reactor with unlimited power (we haven't seen him change it since Iron Man 2).  The arc reactor that Tony had removed had Tesseract energy in it, and Tony basically created his only little bit of Tesseract. Essentially, Tony created an Infinity Stone, not THE Infinity Stone, but AN Infinity Stone. I'm stipulating that the Infinity Stones were all created, not that they are a group of things that have existed for billions of years, but that someone created each individual one. The Aether was also created by someone. Malekith.


 
Malekith created the Aether in order to bring about the end of this universe and restor the universe of darkness from which he and the Dark Elves hail. This would suggest that the Aether has the ability to shape Reality itself, further displayed by the fact it was going to be used to corrupt all the Nine realms into lands of total darkness. The Aether is also a source of power, as it seems to provide energy to all of the Dark Elf machinery, shown by Malekith's line after he has woken, "The Aether has awoken." Once again, it would seem that the Infinity Stone in question, does not necassarily have to be present within something to power it, just some of its energy. Malekith absorbed the Aether into himself in order to utilise its power. This brings me onto the suspect Infinity Stone.
 

 
Most assume this is the Mind Stone, so let's just run with that for now. We hear in The Avengers that this draws it's power from the Tesseract, suggesting a possible connection between the stones. If there is, it would mean that when near one another, on a cosmic scale, they are far more powerful. The Mind Stone was used to take control of several people, including Selvig, Hawkeye and though I may be disputed on this, I'd say it was controlling Loki too. Loki is of a powerful mindset and porbably had some resilience to the stone's effects, but when Banner was merely in close proximity with it, he began to change as did everyone else in the room at the time. However, Loki seemed to be more set on his goals when he had the scepter with him, take his actions in Stuttgart, he was more high & mighty and let his guard down due to his arrogance, something we haven't seen him do before. Let's assume then, the stone radiates its power outwards from itself. This can certainly be true for the Tesseract which we have seen give off pulses of energy and spontaneously open wormholes. The Mind Stone has caused the alteration of people's behaviour when in so much as close proximity to them. The Aether is fluid and in it's presence, reality itself is cotorted. Bringing me onto the next stone.
 


 
The reason all this confusion occurred was when that early review said this was the Power Stone. The purple object is reportedly contained within the orb retrieved by Peter Quill in the film's trailers. In the image above, we can see Ronan is holding the stone. After close examination of images of him, I'm assuming that he absorbs the powers of the stone. If you look at the image of him holding out the Universal Weapon, you'll notice his eyes are actually purple. Plus, if that is indeed a hole in his chest, the fact that this is the Power Stone suggests how he has managed to survive such an injury. So, it would certainly seem that all the stones have the ability to provide power to a person or object, which makes the theory of them being power sources for the vessels in the Infinity Gauntlet highly possible and probably the best bet right about now. But there are two stones left. The Soul Stone and the Time Stone. Well, we saw Adam Warlock's coccoon in Collector's collection, so we can assume the Soul Stone's whereabouts is known to us, yet it would seem unbeknownst to the Collector himself.
 
 
So, where oh where could the Time Stone be? I reckon Marvel may use a Nova movie to introduce the Time Stone by making it the Sphinx's Ka Stone. Of course, we've got Dr. Strange on the way, and who knows what will be intoduced there? Until all this truly unravels, consider this an analysis worth paying attention to. Cheers for reading, I hope you enjoyed it. And your opinion?
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
DISCLAIMER: This article was submitted by a volunteer contributor who has agreed to our code of conduct. ComicBookMovie.com is protected from liability under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) and "safe harbor" provisions. CBM will disable users who knowingly commit plagiarism, piracy, trademark or copyright infringement. Please contact us for expeditious removal of copyrighted/trademarked content. You may also learn more about our copyright and trademark policies HERE.
5
LIKE!
43 Comments
1 2
AlphaAndDecima - 6/5/2014, 5:57 PM
So do we have a list of which stones are which right up until the events of The Dark World?
AlexanderLykins - 6/5/2014, 5:59 PM
Great article! I need to get mine up soon.
NovaCorpsFan - 6/5/2014, 6:04 PM
Alpha

Right now, it's looking like this:

Tesseract: Space (Light Blue)
Aether: Reality (Black & Red)
Sceptre: Mind (Dark Blue)
Orb: Power (Purple)

Then Soul and Time are yet to be seen.
AlphaAndDecima - 6/5/2014, 6:10 PM
Awesome, thanks Nova!
NovaCorpsFan - 6/5/2014, 6:14 PM
And if this is anything to go by, white and green are all that's left:

AlphaAndDecima - 6/5/2014, 6:17 PM
I'd say white will be time and green will be soul.
NovaCorpsFan - 6/5/2014, 6:19 PM
I dunno, man, Marvel will probably make Soul white because of all that purity symbolism and whatnot. But I'd love for Soul to be the only one that stayed its original colour.
Pasto - 6/5/2014, 6:26 PM
Booooooo!
NovaCorpsFan - 6/5/2014, 6:27 PM
Aw, Pasto's feeling threatened.
CharlesLord - 6/5/2014, 7:18 PM
good theory but its still unknown if the sceptre holds a stone or not. I guess we'll see in AoU
alamborn19 - 6/5/2014, 7:34 PM
i have a guess on the guardians of the galaxy post credits scene
in collectors collection the coccon does what ever for us to see adam warlock...
sikwon - 6/5/2014, 8:22 PM
Only issue I have is with the Loki assessment. He didn't let his guard down because he was arrogant... He wanted to get caught. He wanted on the Hellicarier. Otherwise, great stuff.
Lhornbk - 6/5/2014, 8:44 PM
Ummm.....I'm not buying the idea that Stark created an infinity stone. Just because we've never seen him change the new core out doesn't mean he hasn't done it. And if he had figured out how to create an element that contained unlimited energy, he would have used it in the arc reactor in Stark Tower, which would then have unlimited energy. But that arc reactor did NOT have unlimited energy, it was stated in The Avengers that it would only last about a year. (And yes, he said it was a prototype, but if Stark had created an infinity stone with unlimited energy as you suggest, it wouldn't matter if it was a prototype.) And I don't remember anything in TDW that suggested that Malekith "created" the Aether. In fact, to me the very name "Infinity" stones or gems suggests that they have always, and will always exist, and are not something created by someone.

As for the idea that the sceptre contains the Mind gem, I guess that is possible, but it has never been confirmed, so basing theories on that seems unwise to me. I still have a hard time believing that Thanos would give Loki one of the Infinity stones/gems, or that Thor would take the Tesseract back while leaving another gem on Earth.
CorndogBurglar - 6/5/2014, 9:10 PM
Lhornbk

Thats been my problem with the scepter too. If Thanos wants the gems, why just give one away?

Also, it seems incredibly week to me. It doesn't do shit unless you actually touch someone with it? Come on now, the infinity gems are more powerful than that.

dethpillow - 6/5/2014, 10:02 PM
great article...
I like to think that Marvel is definitely putting at least as much thought into them as we are, and I've been meaning to go thru actual quotes from Feige or writers/directors of these movies as see what was actually said. cuz I've never been clear on that exactly.

But I totally agree Aether makes sense as Reality stone. totally. but it didn't actually contort reality from it's presence, i don't think. I think a true depiction of the Reality stone's effects would be like if it was around, it would ripple out and super bizarre things would happen.

I guess previously, I'd always thought of a Reality gem as changing one's perception of reality or influencing the possible variety of realities that got manifested in what we call reality. Almost like how I picture being too close to the Scarlet Witch. like u might start remembering your life differently, or seeing other people in versions that they are not. or just walking into a room where Wanda was feeling a little on the fritz that day, and it'd be like an acid trip, you might just get sooooo sad about something, and then you'd realize what it was... and trip out, cuz it would be a new found reality that didn't come from experience.

but that's what i used to think, but then with Malekith now, it's seeming more like the Reality gem would physically be altering the basic fundamental laws around us, everything governing what we call reality. and that's cooler, it makes it a terrifying gem to have someone in possession of.

much less Thanos.

but I don't feel like anything that happened in Dark World really showed that to us. it seemed more like the gems in general just do powerful things and make it so u can transport ships and just do things, generally that are powerful. and that's what i kind of don't feel satisfied so far with how the gems have been presented. but in the comic books too, they don't really adhere to super specific things. like they will mention that, but in the end, it's just the gems make u powerful and more able to do weird things.

which I understand, i think, from maybe the writer's point of view. but it'd be cool if they did differentiate according to the nature of each gem a little more. like in Dark World it should've been more of a disaster based on completely crazy warping of everything around Thor and it should've shown the Dark Elves as being essentially not creatures of our physical space. that their bodies were just makeshift vessels to get this job done, and so were their ships and when Jane went to their realm, it should've been truly bizarre. and changed her in some way, i think, just from having been there.

something that could never be changed back, i guess.
dethpillow - 6/5/2014, 10:09 PM
I think it would make u insane to have the Aether inside you.

but anyways, that's sort of nitpicking in a lot of ways,
and me saying what i'd rather things were, instead of watching the story.



but the other thing is that I just don't feel like the staff earned it's position as an Infinity gem. it wasn't made any kind of big deal about, and then I think the main thing is... why would Thor have just left it with SHIELD, after realizing what it truly was? did Thor really trust SHIELD or think it was safe with them? I don't think so. Thor's no dummy like that, u know?

I don't think he would possibly just leave it there. I think that's what makes it seem odd that it would really be some manifestation of the Mind gem. but I'm not sure what you guys are talking about sometimes when it starts getting pretty deep into it, and about where the power actually resides, and maybe there's something i'm just not understanding about it.

Like I could imagine the staff as merely being charged by the Mind gem, and Thanos holding onto the actual gem itself. then Thor wouldn't think too much about it, it would be a temporary artifact and he would assume it wouldn't be able to do much damage, i guess. maybe that's what you're saying too.
dethpillow - 6/5/2014, 10:13 PM
i think it's gonna come down to Thor 2 just having not done a good job of really doing what it should have to set it's part of the story up.

i don't know what could've been going on with that movie, but it just seems like they didn't really care much to make a movie out of it.
bizarrely enough.

i still liked it, but how could some of it have been thought ok, even from the stage of looking at it like a script?

Jane walks into the Dark World and it's just a cave, and then she finds this crack and it's the Aether? stupid. it's not even doing what it's supposed to there, it's just weird and dumb, i think. i think that's really gonna turn out being a weak link in the whole thing. or, better said, it's gonna be left up to us to make it work effectively. which is kinda fine with me, actually.
dethpillow - 6/5/2014, 10:14 PM
maybe i gotta watch Thor 2 again. maybe there's little things i didn't pick up on in it.
AontheheadStarontheChest - 6/5/2014, 11:52 PM

Basing off of NovaCorpFan's speculation

Tesseract: Space (Light Blue) - Confirmed by Feige

Aether: Reality (Black & Red) - This makes the most sense as we all thought it was the Power Stone but seeing as Malekith just wanted to spread darkness I guess the MCU's version of the reality stone is more of a wish granter than something that would completely alter reality.

Sceptre: Mind (Dark Blue) - This one doesn't stick with me. I just don't see Thanos gambling one stone for another stone (The teserract) and allowing Loki to just lose it on earth. I always thought it just drew its power from the Tesseract as it was able to close the portal, and it wasn't able to control stark who created an element that emulates the potential power of the tesseract.

Orb: Power (Purple) - Confirmed by recent reviews/reports of GoTG Film as the Collector allegedly refers to the orb as the Power Stone.

Soul Gem - (Green?) Probably with the Adam Warlock Caccoon?

Time Gem - (White?) Maybe something in Ant-Man as we have two versions of Pym?
BatzFTWfan - 6/6/2014, 1:17 AM
@AontheStaronthechest

This. Time Gem fits Ant-Man, come on guys, why don't you accept we could see this on the film ? Young Pym is supposed to have a major role as Wilson said, so don't expect his role for 5 minutes before going to Scott Lang. So, if its true, Pym was hired by S.H.I.E.L.D to get the time gem as same time as Howard was getting the space gem. Pym should get it from Egghead in 60s, and Egghead brings Radioactive man to battle him. In the end, Pym fails as he didn't get the gem, he gets fired and that causes him to be a scientist and that's we all know. In that time, Pym creates the scenario of Ultron, but didn't finish it (so in modern time, that's Tony who creates Ultron and thus the events of Age of Ultron).

Before Modern time, the time gem was already lost and is not known where it is. Lang finds it but doesnt use it as he thinks it may change the time. Lang finds out that it was Pym who wanted to find it, so he talks to old Pym (Douglas) to keep it safe, but at the same time, the younger Pym arrives in modern time. However, an older Egghead finds out and eventually kidnaps Janet Pym (whose Lang's friend before be his lover) in order to get the time gem. Lang has no choice, so he'll give it. When Lang says the thing happened recently, they see the younger Pym is around. And to get the time gem once for all, these three plan to go to Egghead's fort. Egghead recently creates Whirlwind and brings back Radioactive Man from past to fight Lang and younger pym while the older pym tries to get it. So, at the end, they get successful, Younger Pym returns to 60s alongside Egghead and Radioactive Man. Thus, Whirlwind is the only villain who's alive, and he joins The Masters of Evil, invited by Baron Strucker and Crossbones in post-credit scene.
What do you think everyone ? Hopefully i see some replies.
NovaCorpsFan - 6/6/2014, 3:37 AM
Lhornbk

I knew I should've been clearer on the Stark creating an Infinity Stone thing. I don't mean that he really has one of them or that he actually created a proper one, I mean that he has just created a piece of the substance from which the Tesseract is made, considering it was all based on his father's research. I was basically saying that it is possible for these things to be created by an individual.

Odin himself states that Malekith created the Aether (or that he at least gave it to the Dark Elves).

I'll be honest I don't even think the sceptre has the Mind Gem in it, but it's popular theory, so I ran with it.

The rest of your argument is sound and I apologise to all for overlooking what you have pointed out to me.
mook - 6/6/2014, 4:13 AM
Infinity Guantlet = with Loki
Space = Cosmic Cube = with Loki
Power = Aether = with Collector
Mind = Loki's staff = with the Baron/Hydra

Time I think will be introduced in GotG
That leaves the Soul or Reality, one of which will probably be in Dr Strange. Not sure about the other...
BatzFTWfan - 6/6/2014, 4:41 AM
@mook: It's already confirmed Power gem is in GOTG. Making Thor 2's gem, Reality gem. So, i think Time is in Ant-Man while Soul is in Doctor Strange.
NovaCorpsFan - 6/6/2014, 4:52 AM
mook

Did you read the article at all?
dethpillow - 6/6/2014, 6:10 AM
I think part of it too, is we gotta speculate what a Thanos movie would actually be like.

Like would he start off the movie in possession of all the gems and the gauntlet? and if he did, how would that play out?

or he could start out the movie missing some piece, which would be a whole different movie in structure.

i think the second is more likely, maybe just cuz it seems like an easier way to build drama up. he's looking for what he needs... that mounts up until he gets it, and then for the last third of the movie would be dealing with that problem.

if he starts out with everything he needs...it just seems like less motion. depends on the writing of course, but just generally speaking. so I think that's kind of important to guess that part right in order to figure it out right now.

and the thing is, i don't think Marvel knows what's gonna happen yet. as weird as that sounds, i don't think they do. and that's actually natural, it's not that weird. they don't even know if they're gonna make a second GOTG movie right now. or any kind of second cosmic movie. and I think until they know that, then they can't possibly have a definite story written for a Thanos movie.

I don't think they know if it's coming in the form of Avengers 3 or not either yet. I think a standalone Infinity Gauntlet movie would be their preference. becuz then they could have Avengers 3 as well, and it just seems like they were talking like that about a year ago. I was really getting the impression that Thanos movie was coming in maybe 2018 and Avengers 3 in 2020, something like that. now it seems like they aren't talking the same way about it.

that's just been my read of things on it tho.
dethpillow - 6/6/2014, 6:12 AM
whatever it is, dude, that's gonna one expensive movie to make.
EdgyOutsider - 6/6/2014, 6:32 AM
Maybe we'll see the mind gem in Doctor Strange.
QuestiontheAnswer - 6/6/2014, 6:35 AM
I doubt the staff will be a gem. I presume the Dr.Strange movie will have it. Time gem can be in the Ms.Marvel movie or even Cap 3 if Red Skull comes from the past.
Nomadic1 - 6/6/2014, 7:23 AM
I think the mind gem could be in the staff because it give Thanos a reason to come to earth in a future movie.
BatzFTWfan - 6/6/2014, 7:45 AM
@questiontheanswer: Sorry, but the time has nothing to do with Red Skull. Because tesseract was Space Gem which was in Cap first avenger. And he was send to space by it, so it's a Space Gem and he's living there. However, Time gem fits Ant-Man, bringing two eras of Pym and Lang together.
AlphaAndDecima - 6/6/2014, 9:59 AM
Why couldn't the mind gem/stone be Loki's scepter? It was a tool given to Loki from Thanos and who knows, he may be legit pissed that it's now in the hands of HYDRA. I could even see part of Age of Ultron's plot being a now mind-controlled Ultron trying to steal it back for Thanos(perhaps we'll find out just why Thanos doesn't just come to Earth since he didn't in The Avengers, which I always wondered).
CorndogBurglar - 6/6/2014, 10:16 AM
@ Nomadic

He's already got a reason to come to Earth. The Avengers defeated his army and made them look like a bunch of punks.
dethpillow - 6/6/2014, 4:17 PM
i just hope the Black Order is in the movie. i know they are new and all, but i thought they fit in pretty instantly just fine. i like them
Lhornbk - 6/6/2014, 8:33 PM
@Nova, I can't really buy that either, just because I don't see the Tesseract being composed of just a single element. I could buy the idea that as Howard Stark studied the Tesseract, he maybe realized that part of its composition was an element that did not currently exist on Earth, and that he figured out the basic composition (electron configuration and nucleus composition) of that element, which he hid in the design of the Stark Expo. But, as he says in the film he left Tony, he didn't have the technology to either separate the element from the other components of the Tesseract, or recreate the element outside of the Tesseract. Tony then basically builds a particle accelerator in his lab to create the element. I'm sure some will wonder why he doesn't actually mention the Tesseract itself in that film. Well, he evidently never told Tony of his involvement with Shield either, and I'm sure he took security seriously enough to not spill stuff to his son.
Lhornbk - 6/6/2014, 8:35 PM
There was someone else who suggested that the element that Tony created was Vibranium. To me, that idea is just stupid.
Starkasm - 6/6/2014, 9:18 PM
I like your theory regarding the Mind Gem.
All interesting points that they are created and not the corner stones of the universe.

Thumbs up.
Starkasm - 6/6/2014, 9:20 PM
Lhornuk

I believe that is what it's called in the Iron Man 2 tie in comic.
CaseyFritz - 6/6/2014, 10:09 PM
It's "Infinity Gems" not "stones."
NovaCorpsFan - 6/7/2014, 7:52 AM
Casey

They're called stones in the movie universe. Odin refers to them as such.
ferg815 - 6/7/2014, 1:02 PM
Great article! I think that a key aspect we're all overlooking is the synergistic nature of the stones, and their ability to be drawn together. It makes more sense to why Thanos would give Loki the Mind Stone, and the two stones may have been required to be near each other to pull off the invasion. I'm assuming it was Odin who was last responsible for hiding the stones, and his death then makes it more difficult to find the remaining. I also like the idea that the Twins' power wasn't derived directly from the Mind stone, but through it's communication with nearby stones. Giving Quicksilver power over Space, and Scarlet Witch her power over Reality. What I'm still curious about is if Adam Warlock is linked to the Soul Stone, then what affect will it have on him when the Aether and Orb are both potentially found on his Knowhere in GotG? This is the most interesting aspect of what the MCU has brought us, and reading everyone's speculation over the stones is very fun.
1 2

Please log in to post comments.

Don't have an account?
Please Register.