EDITORIAL: Passion In CBM Fans

No matter what comics you read, you're passionate about something. Whether that be a guy with gadgets, a girl who can fly or whatever, you have a passion for a particular character or indeed team. But how far do we take that passion? Hit the jump to hear my thoughts...

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By NovaCorpsFan - 2/18/2014
I'll start off by saying that I hate the fact I had the urge to write this article. Today saw a lot of talk surrounding Guardians of the Galaxy. Anybody who's been on the site long enough will know that my passion lies with the cosmic aspect of the Marvel Universe. Naturally, I'm incredibly hyped for Guardians because some of my favourite characters are hitting the big screen. The reason I'm so hyped has little to do with what we've seen so far from the film, it's based around the passion I have for the characters.



I know there are people out there who think this movie will suck, or that it will bomb or even that it's gonna be one of the worst movies ever. Fine by me. Your entitled to your opinion. Now, if I didn't have that attitude, my passion for these characters would drive me to defend them furiously. The reason I don't bother to is because the characters are very little known and nobody cares what I have to say. But if my passions lay with Superman, that's a whole new kettle of fish.



Here's a character with a global fan-base who is a pop culture icon. I have no interest in him whatsoever, but that's just me. What matters is, there are people out there who would defend their passion for this character in the most extreme ways possible. My problem with that is that they become more like Jehovah's Witnesses rather than dedicated fans. They're there saying all this stuff that they're deeply invested in, but you couldn't care less about.



Eventually, the fan gets discredited and hated on for their passion. Why? Usually, it's a matter of differing opinions. Take Guardians as an example again. I hope it does well, but I'm not going to go to any extreme lengths to defend the movie from attack. When Man of Steel was released, anyone who disagreed with the passionate fans got torn to shreds. Yes, this is what you'd call a "Flame War".



People get invested in these arguments and it's all for nothing. Leave people to their own opinions and if it differs from yours, do what I'm doing and vent your anger in an article.

Essentially, what I want to say is this. People are passionate about varying things. Where one person may hold a passion for a man with many powers, others have a passion for a raccoon with a machine gun. It shouldn't matter which aspect of the comic book world you invest your time into, what should matter is that you are part of a community with vast knowledge of a brilliant form of fiction, and we should be able to be passionate about those aspects without being questioned by our peers.

Thanks for reading,
Nova.
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MexicanChinman - 2/18/2014, 6:43 PM
I would say fanboys are worse than Jehovah's witnesses because Jehovah's witnesses leave after 5 minutes and they don't scream at you. I think GotG will be decent at the box office but be a great movie.
JasonGrayson77 - 2/18/2014, 7:09 PM
I'm loving the slight name changes Nova. And great article.
MrCBM56 - 2/18/2014, 7:48 PM
Good article Nova.
Noobster - 2/18/2014, 8:06 PM
Great article! I agree with you 99%. the only time i "argue" is if I'm trying to fix my theory .
cipher - 2/18/2014, 8:18 PM
Heh, I never get riled up by any of this. It's just not my nature. I mean, sure, I'm passionate..

But I'm not going to lunge for anybody's throat over the mere suggestion that so-and-so's fictional dong bulges bigger than so-and-so's fictional dong in a pair o' brightly coloured tights. My attitude is as simple as it gets- live and let live. I don't shake my fist at the the screen every time somebody suggests that [insert object of scorn, or worship] is either shit, or the greatest thing to hit the planet since doggy style. I'm not gonna stick another pin into the crotch of a voodoo doll just because somebody declares blah blah, to be a superior (or inferior) whatever-the-bloody-blue-f*ck to blah blah. I don't take things so bloody seriously, y'know? I just can't be arsed. People have preferences, I can respect that. I always have, and I always will. Like I said..

Simple.
cipher - 2/18/2014, 8:20 PM
Haha, yeah.. I'm lovin' the name change...

""Han' me da aether, ya f*ckin' cocksuckah."

;P
cipher - 2/18/2014, 8:22 PM
I was listening to Bobby Darin's "Beyond the Sea" as I typed that up. I have no clue why I picked that out of the blue, or why I'm even mentioning it.

I'm weird like that.
jlabatman - 2/18/2014, 8:24 PM
good article
GuardianDevil - 2/18/2014, 8:29 PM
CBMfans are all passionate, but at times we can get so invested in what we love that we begin to delve into the realm of hypocrisy. Even I admit I've been guilty of that.

Example: Alot of diehard Avengers fans get super hyped up due to the movies and such, and really more power to them! But sometimes, some of them get so invested in Avengers and the movie that they begin to feel some inner desire to go around trashing other team films like the X-Men series or go around trying to make upcoming JL films sound like bull.

Or like a lot of times certain films are judged by different standards. One movie featuring character A could be just as good as the one featuring character B but fans of character B judge them differently. Attack movie A and call it shit all the while praising movie B when really they might be just as good. I'm not thinking of any films particularly I'm just stating what I've seen.

I'm guilty of doing that sometimes too, cuzI just gotta be honest. I love Batman, Superman, and all of DC's big name heroes. I'm a sucker for the X-Men, I've loved Spider-Man from a young age and I personally feel smitten with the awesomeness of Daredevil, The Punisher and The Hulk. Autobots rock. And to be frank, I could not care less about the Guardians or ANY Marvel cosmic characters outside of Thor. I'm not an Iron Man guy at all, and personally just can't get into the movie version of Cap.

So yeah I'm more of a fan of the films featuring characters I like. I try not to trash other CBMs, I like my fav characters better but I don't call films featuring characters I dislike: bad. If they're good, Ill say so.

Great article!
GuardianDevil - 2/18/2014, 9:30 PM
Like objectively speaking Iron Man 1 is roughly around the same quality as something like say Wolverine. But I liked The Wolverine so much better because I like his character so much better.
Firgosaurus - 2/18/2014, 9:43 PM
Be nice if you idiots put that passion to greater use than something as selfish as a personal hobby.
CharlesLord - 2/18/2014, 9:46 PM
Nova why is it every time i see an article or comment of yours, your name gets longer each time? lmfao
Doopie - 2/19/2014, 2:34 AM
No...hand me the aether you [frick]ing cocksucker. ciph i think you're thinking of darin due to him being played by spacey who was in usual suspects which this quote is (almost) from

Nova - you are totally right except you forgot one thing...anyone who doesn't agree that my favourite character's film was the best is WRONG and i will kill them and eat their children!!!
in all serious though whilst i think some people are a little over protective/willing to bash, i'm sure some of it is just to incite flame wars and get reactions out of others. best we can do is just ignore these people
LEEE777 - 2/19/2014, 6:27 AM
PASSION'S good!

Shows you care for your comic book characters up on the big screen that you grew up with.

Ppl that just accept any old crap (X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE, CATWOMAN, PUNISHER WAR ZONE etc etc), they are the people that hurt our cbm's, also Hollywood ofc for making them like that in the first place :P

Number one rule, you need the ppl involved to care about the property they are adapting in the first place.

MOS had plenty of flaws unfortunately and wanted that to be up there with The Avengers.

GUARDIAN OF THE GALAXY is gonna be awesome!

Biggest movie of the year easy!
GuardianDevil - 2/19/2014, 7:19 AM
@LEE
I can't see how something like that can directly hurt the industry. The CBM industry was dead, and has been brought to life. It has come and will soon pass, I honestly don't see what effect any single person is going to have on the genre. I personally feel that because it will eventually pass on, we as superhero fans should enjoy as many CBMs as we can before it's not popular anymore and the studios cut production.

For the record, I really liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It's not great by any means, but it's no worse than something like Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Captain America, etc.

It was a decent flick and I'm NOT afraid to say that. I could give a list of reasons why...
Doopie - 2/19/2014, 8:20 AM
JJ

I'd like to see the list. Not trying to be funny or anything, but what do you think the redeeming factors were? I liked the battlefield montage and thought Liev as Creed was pretty good, but that's about it really

also i recently re-watched Warzone and as ridiculous as it is, i quite enjoyed it. must be going soft in my old age
CptShellhead - 2/19/2014, 10:40 AM
Good articl, film is going to be great. All comes down to the writing, DnA have that coveted by building a team as fun and great as Firefly.
WesleyGibson - 2/19/2014, 1:03 PM
Agree 100%. Great read Nova.
GliderMan - 2/19/2014, 1:37 PM
Everything's designed to get our minds off God.
ComradeGrey - 2/19/2014, 1:53 PM
There's a line between passion and childishness and I think it's pretty obvious when it's been crossed. I hate that you had the urge to write this as well, because it's not like it's going to get across to the people who are the problem.
blkyank - 2/19/2014, 1:56 PM
I think this editorial is a little self serving when the author takes a swipe at DC fans with admitting that Marvel fans,indeed,even Cosmic Marvel fans have been just as extreme defending their brand as he suggest DC fanboys are.

I don't really care for GOTG myself but I hope its a success because when CBMs fail,it hurts the whole genre.

People forget that back in 2011,many critics were writing articles hoping the CBM genre would fail.They pointed to the "fact" that the genre was giving us "B-level character" films that year like Thor,Green Lantern,Captain America and an X-Men film with out Wolverine. When Green Lantern failed,many of these critics were giddy and declared that the wave of CBMs had finally "jumped the shark" and maybe studios wouldn't make so many anymore.

Those critics were not against WB/DC making CBMs,they were against everybody making them.

I don't have a problem with anybody not liking Man of Steel,I do have a problem when some Marvel fanboys appear to want DC/WB to not even make any CBMs unless they are using the exact same style as Marvel Studios.

Of course,if WB/DC did take this route,those same guys would be screaming that WB/DC has no ideas of its own and ripped off Marvel.
blkyank - 2/19/2014, 1:57 PM
I meant "without admitting that Marvel fans..."
CaptainSporty - 2/19/2014, 2:58 PM
just watch the movies. CANT WE JUST HAVE FUN WITH IT?! thank goodness GotG will bring at least some of that
GuardianDevil - 2/19/2014, 5:11 PM
@Doopie
I like a lot of things about X-Men Origins, some things like the writing was a bit sloppy and Deadpool was just odd. But as a whole I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and can accept it as the simple action/revenge flick it was meant to be.

Acting-outside of maybe Kitsch, all of the performances in my opinion were great. You can't go wrong with Jackman's Wolverine, Liev Schrieber is downright amazing. Lynn Collins and Danny Huston were quite great as well. Maybe they aren't all written well, but one thing is for sure: All of the actors really did give their all and I feel they should be commended.

Villains-This one is tied to the previous one, like I said Huston as Stryker was pretty damn good and Schrieber as Sabretooth was amazing. Reynolds actually was GREAT early on in the film but he later loses his luster.

Action-aside from the lackluster bar fight between Sabes and Wolvy, the rest of the action scenes are really good. The motorcycle/helicopter chase battle I loved. The final sequence, while Deadpool was weird as hell this scene was still shot and choreographed beautifully. The opening war montage and the Weapon X team mission were great too.

Cinematography-Origins gets my vote as the CBM having the best cinematography. The mountain shots and sets and beautiful scenery IMHO are still unparalleled among CBMs.

Tone-yeah, X-Men movies are generally darker in tone and Origins keeps that but it adds a sense of....adrenaline, adventure and really just excitement that lacks in every other X-Men film.

Add to that some creepy-ass scenes and themes about death, revenge, and the fight inside and IMHO you've got a good watch. I'm not saying it's perfect, or even great. I'm saying its decent....on the same level as TASM, GL and the Iron Man sequels.


Doopie - 2/19/2014, 5:34 PM
JJ

you bring up some good points that i'd forgotten actually. acting was good for the most part, or at least as much as the script would allow. hugh and liev are solid and i always like houston but i thought the love story between hugh and collins was laughable in a way.

the action was not bad, the last fight (hugh and liev vs reynolds) was actually well put together, it's just a shame that wasn't deadpool as we know him.

my main problem is that it was just all over the place. the tone, pacing, logic, characterisation and structure seemed to just be a mish-mash of ideas thrown together - the blob scene being a great example.

i would definitely rank GL lower tho...at least i can watch X-Men:Wolverine all the way thru!
GuardianDevil - 2/19/2014, 5:47 PM
Yeah like I said I wouldn't call it great, it IS deeply flawed in so many ways but I do like it. DP was odd, but he actually wouldn't have been so bad if they would've just called him something else. Adamantium bullets thing was stupid, not to mention Gambit was really just a fanservice and not a good adaptation. But it did many things quite well IMHO...
CPBuff22 - 2/19/2014, 11:29 PM
Well Said. Just because your favorite superhero has been in seven films already, doesn't give you the right to be a douche. I think that covers a lot of it. That and all the hate for one comic company over another. I admit to preferring Marvel comics but I would kill for a Flash, Nightwing, or good Green Lantern movie.

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