Sequel to The Dark Knight will Happen With or Without Nolan

WB will decide the status of a sequel to The Dark Knight in January 2010.

A longtime Batman-on-film.com source has revealed that there will be official Batman 3 news from both Chris Nolan and Warner Bros come January.

According to the reliable source, the longer it takes plans to be solidify for the sequel, the less likely Nolan would return.

It seems that Warner's will use the marketing from Nolan's latest film Inception to spark interest in the latest Batman installment.

The source also reveals a tidbit that Nolan's fans have been have fearing - "There’s going to be a BATMAN 3 with or without Nolan. And although they’re operating under the assumption that he will return, they do have their ducks in a row -- just in case.

Information courtesy of Batman-on-film.com

MPP - We all know that another Batman movie is imminent, but would it be a good thing to let Nolan step down after the success of TDK? What do you think?

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207 Comments

	NOLANS an A$$hole if he don't do it lol! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:01 AM
	Wow, Dark Knight without Nolan! No way! That is just no good! Damm! I hope to goodness he comes back! DDD - 11/17/2009, 9:02 AM
	I deffinitly want him back to finish what he started and have the triliogy but of his hearts not in it then fine its better off to find someone who really wants it Cape - 11/17/2009, 9:03 AM
	WB is ready for another Batman Forever I guess, damn can't these guys wait till he finishes the movie he's working on now! WEAPON420 - 11/17/2009, 9:03 AM
	Please, no more reboots of Batman. Just give us a new story. Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 9:03 AM
	huh? DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 9:03 AM
	Cool BATMAN PIC up there @ MULTI!! Anyways i say bring back TIM BURTON! ; D LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:03 AM
	NOLAN ain't [frick]ing GOD, i say get THE WATCHMEN crew on BATS 3!!! Be [frick]ing amazing!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:05 AM
	I really don't want to be negative about this but.. for real how can they even think of moving forward without Nolan? I understand his reticence, but really gents, I truly do not believe they should even bother without Nolan DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 9:07 AM
	What about Bale? U know how anal he is without Nolan. SHHH - 11/17/2009, 9:08 AM
	I SAY LET NOLAN FINISH THE FIRST TRILOGY, AND GET ANOTHER DIRECTOR TO STEP ON BOARD FOR THE 2ND TRILOGY. MY VOTE?? ZAC SNYDER...I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE SPOUT HIS NAME ABOUT. BUT I WANNA SEE BATMAN'S MORE "COMIC BOOK VILLIANS AS NOLAN SAYS" LIKE CLAYFACE AND MR. FREEZE (ARNIE'S VERSION WAS ATROCIOUS) dellamorte1872 - 11/17/2009, 9:08 AM
	@ LEEE: I think your forgetting how significant his contribution CBMs really is. The impact of TDK, it's numbers, it's acclaim... it's almost universally loved. For a comic book movie that's huge. With TDK cbms took a giant leap forward. To proceed without him seems extremely risky DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 9:11 AM
	Well if that happens @ DARTH i'll blame NOLAN, i say [frick] him if he don't finish the trilogy!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:13 AM
	DarthMulder----If the man can stick his finger in a glass of water and pull it out to leave a finger sized void in the water, he is irreplacable. Batman has been loved for over 60 years in the comics because there are plenty of writers that can do his story justice.The same can be said about movie directors. I like Nolans movies, but if he doesn't want to do more someone else will step up and do just as well, Allbeit different. Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 9:19 AM
	HAWKS @ Exactly and.... These two should be hired to be hunting BATS on the run, with a BLACK MASK or RIDDLER in the background maybe! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:24 AM
	Hawksblueyes, I am trying to make sense out the finger water thing.... but not really succeeding. :p @ LEEE777 I don't blame you or anybody else for being positive about a Nolanless Batman. I am glad you feel that way. But I just can't at this point... Nolan's Batman is my favorite by far. And most of you guys like Burton's better. It's just a matter of taste DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 9:26 AM
	told yah guys. wb dont care who directs it. they want the next batman cashcow to be made. and to be honest. i dont really care anymore myself. but i think if they could get Michael Mann to do it that would be awesome. grif - 11/17/2009, 9:26 AM
	SHHH, Bale is under contract for three films. If he doesn't return it would be a breech of contract, and would be susceptible to lawsuit. Or, WB may release him to reboot the franchise to bring it under one DC Universe umbrella. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 9:27 AM
	DARTH @ Yeah your right, i love TDK, but it's still not up there with WATCHMEN! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:27 AM
	PHINES @ He's under contract for a crossover movie too, be it WORLDS FINEST or JLA or something else! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:29 AM
	Most people like Burton's better? I would not have figured that. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 9:29 AM
	LEEE, that may be, but he won't resign for something he doesn't believe in. They'll just release him and reboot as to not confuse continuity as you want to do with Routh. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 9:31 AM
	BURTONS BATMAN brought back the Superhero to the Big screen! An a instant classic! PHINES @ Lmao??? They wont reboot it, without NOLAN, they have to finish the story, even if NOLAN doesn't come back, they cant reboot it, no way in hell, TDK isn't a full story an has to carry on lol! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:32 AM
	LEEE----- If the powers that be chose to use Deathstroke they would need no other villain. He is one captivating character. I don't know why I haven't thought of him before, but he is the perfect villain for any Batman movie. Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 9:32 AM
	DartMulder-----Its an old saying. No one can do it, therefore no one is irreplacable. Its for people who think nobody else can do the job they do. Something or someone will always come allong to fill the void you left behind. Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 9:34 AM
	Why shouldn't Nolan do another batman film? His two movies were the best things to happen to batman in film, in a long time. Other than personal loss (R.I.P Heath), which i completely understand, I think that Nolan would make a good third movie. As @Weapon420 stated, do we really need another batman forever? Why cut off Nolan after his second batman film. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I certainly felt that TDK left a door open for a third Nolan/Batman film. Besides, If Nolan walks, then I'm sure that Bale will walk, and I've already stressed about my hatred of recasting. I know that quite a bit of people don't like Bale as batman, but for continuity's sake, He should stay. Bale is a really good actor, and I feel that he truly captured batman (except for the Rorschach voice). I don't think that WB would just toss aside the man that brought them over a billion dollars last year. If it is all up to Nolan, then I really hope he returns. supermarioworldE - 11/17/2009, 9:36 AM
	HAWKS @ Yeah man kudos, but i also think they should bring DEADPOOL in it too, so it'll be them fighting with each other to getting to the BATS!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:36 AM
	TO DO IT WITHOUT NOLAN WOULD BE EXTREMELY RETARDED..YOU'LL HAVE SOME KIND OF WANNABE NOLAN VERSION... GUNSMITH - 11/17/2009, 9:37 AM
	GUNSMITH @ I SAY IF NOLAN DON'T WANT TO DO IT, I SAY [frick] HIM!! : D Like HAWKS said: No one is irreplacable!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:39 AM
	Deadpool is Marvel LEE. Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 9:39 AM
	Hawksblueyes, LEEE likes to use his imagination. We try to encourage that. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 9:42 AM
	Third Batman Movie needs a great villian /killer croc a must for third film with a touch of catwoman georgia49th - 11/17/2009, 9:45 AM
	I say either with Nolan or just plain end it with TDK. The sad fact is as good as they are the Nolan Batman movies have now become redundent as they don't fit in with the greater DC film universe that is being established making the current franchise a narative a dead end. It may be best to let the franchise die if Nolan won't or can't return. If that happens DC/WB needs to refocus on their other characters films like the Flash, WonderWoman, and Green Arrow, and of course the Superman reboot. Let Batman lay a while and bring out the new fully integrated DCU film version in the Justice League movie. The return of Batman may be a selling point for that film on its own. I'm ready for the more mature seasoned hero and Detective Batman that we've really never seen on the big screen yet. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 9:47 AM
	@ Phin: A lot of dudes around here have said in the past that they like Burton's Batman better. I don't get it ether @ Gunsmith: That's right. They would have to have someone copycat the style and tone, even the story telling style. good point DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 9:49 AM
	DEADSHOT i [frick]ing mean lol!! PHINES @ lol!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:50 AM
	@Phinehas: Sequel or Reboot which one?? SHHH - 11/17/2009, 9:51 AM
	No Nolan would bea huge mistake! Why do they want to rush ahead with this whilst Superman is gathering dust!?! JoshW - 11/17/2009, 9:51 AM
	Cool No more Vader suite... :) teabag - 11/17/2009, 9:55 AM
	SHHH @ Sequel!!! JOSH its called $$$$$$$ pity none of 'em care about the real fans. Lol @ TEA!! : D LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:56 AM
	I voted for Nolan to step down. As much as i loved his two films, for me it's always been "shit or get the [frick] off the pot!!!" so he's obviously not that psyched for a third act. Bale is stale. So i say go towards "the light", Hal Jordan's light which leads to JLA!!! McTeigue did V, he can do Batman!!! Just give Superman to Abrams and we got ourselves a JLA!!! Get Routh back behind the S and give the cowl to Cavil!!! Woah... did i just single handedly solve WB's dilema??? :P Shaman - 11/17/2009, 9:56 AM
	OOOHHHHHH Deadshot!!!! LOL, I thought so , and yes that would be cool. Phinhas-----He is imaginative isn't he:) Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 9:57 AM
	I rather not have a Batman flick in 20 more years than to have one without Nolan. AlexDeLarge - 11/17/2009, 9:57 AM
	SHAMAN @ Agree though [frick] CAVIL, i like the dude but BALE needs to be in JLA! ; D He is contracted you know lol! HAWKS @ LOL!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 9:58 AM
	If Nolan does return I would love to see a baddie we've never seen on screen before. My pick would be Black Mask. Mask continues the themes gangsters (Falcone) escalates to gangsters using freaks (Joker) and then being replaced by them, and Mask is the end result: a Freak establishing his own version of the mob. Mob to random Freaks to Freak Mobs. Black Mask is a great combo, brilliant, sinister, murderous, gleefully sadistic, and utterly sociopathic. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 9:58 AM
	Nero @ BLACK MASK is cool! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 10:00 AM
	Darth Mulder, a lot, yes. But I wouldn't venture to say "most". Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 10:02 AM
	LEE: Yeah, they'd rather rush ahead and make a shit Batman film without Nolan rather than wait until he's ready and bring back Superman in the meantime! ;( JoshW - 11/17/2009, 10:03 AM
	I smell another WB screw-up. Don't let Sequalitis kill this new Batman Franchise. Don't let a hack director sub for Nolan. History, might repeat itself. Every WB comic to movie franchise has suffered from this. Superman, Batman... don't let it happen again. JYCowboy - 11/17/2009, 10:04 AM
	I don't care what they do they better bring these guys back they made Batman Begins and The Dark Knight flow. SHHH - 11/17/2009, 10:04 AM
	LEE has convinced me, Deathstroke all the way. He has been one of the coolest characters since created, and would fit perfectly into any movie setting. Hawksblueyes - 11/17/2009, 10:06 AM
	Black Mask is the best opinion jazzman - 11/17/2009, 10:09 AM
	whats the rush? If Nolan doesn't do it, the director they get will over compensate and just [frick] it up. Epic fail. They need to chill out. These greedy SOBs just love money don't they? MsKyle08 - 11/17/2009, 10:09 AM
	SOME OF YOU SAY END IT, SOME SAY GO ON WITHOUT NOLAN, SOME SAY REBOOT---YOU END IT AND YOU END A RUN OF A TYPE OF BATMAN THAT THE PUBLIC,NOT JUST FANS,LOVE..THATS A TON OF MONEY YOUR THROWING AWAY,WAY TOO MUCH.---GO ON WITHOUT HIM-YOU KNOW STUDIOS(WITH THE MONEYREBOOT THING) THEY WON'T WAIT, I TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE MAKING MONEY AND SEEING THE MONEY THEY MADE WITH DARKNIGHT..CMON..YOU WON'T WAIT, YOUR GOING TO STRIKE WHILE THE KETTLE'S STILL HOT,STUDIO'S WILL SAY GET SOMEONE AND MAKE THE GUY DO IT JUST LIKE NOLAN, HAS TO BE LIKE NOLAN AND YOULL SEE A DIRECTOR TRY AND FAIL AND ALSO THROW HIS TAKE ON THINGS BECAUSE LETS FACE THE FACTS, DIRECTORS ARE ARTISTS AND THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW, I DON'T COPY AND I WILL DO SOMETHING IN THE ATTEMPT TO IMMORTALIZE MY WORK BAD OR GOOD..THIS IS THAT SHUMAKER BULLSHIT ALL OVER AGAIN..THE HELL WITH THAT....--REBOOT?-WHY...DARKNIGHT ALMOST TOOK THE TOP SPOT FROM TITANIC..YOU WANNA CHANGE A FORMULA THATS GOOD ENUFF TO ALMOST PUSH CAMERON'S BUTT A SPOT DOWN?THE FORMULA NOLAN DID WORKS, IT WORKS-IT MAKES MONEY AND ITS NEW.STUDIOS WON'T REBOOT..THEY STICK WITH WHATS A SURE THING, THEY WONT BLOW MILLIONS MAKING SOMETHING THAT MIGHT TANK, WICH IS WHY YOU KEEP SEEING THE SEQUELS, CLASH OF THE TITANS, YOUR TERMINATORS AND PREDATORS YOUR ALIENS ..YOUR FREDDY KRUEGERS...REBOOTS, TAKING OLD STUFF THAT WAS COOL AND DUSTING IT OFF REHEATING IT AND SERVING IT,WHY?..MONEY...ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY. GUNSMITH - 11/17/2009, 10:10 AM
	As for Bale, as much as I liked him in Batman Begins I disliked him in TDK, he seemed to feel as if he was above playing a superhero in TDK. He complained about the suit, he didn't bulk up in fact he looked horribly gaunt for TDK, he lacked intensity and focus, and the voice... ah the Death Metal, Cookie Monster Batman voice. He can't think that sounds right can he? "I want to sound very bestial." No my friend you just sounded very constipated. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 10:11 AM
	Of course Black Mask is the most logical step in Nolan's franchise but since he's beating around the bush, give the franchise to McTeigue. He's good with masks ;P I don't give a [frick] about the "public" and i don't give a [frick] about money. I give a [frick] about JL [frick]in' A!!! Which can't be concieved in the Nolanverse. Shaman - 11/17/2009, 10:13 AM
	@ Shaman: when i read your post I died a little bit inside LOL! However I do understand that DC fans want things to meld together to pave the way for a JLA movie, and I think we all knwo there's no way primadonna Bale will agree to that. But just remember one thing peeps: JLA is at least three years away. At the very least DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 10:13 AM
	@ SHHH: OH hell yeah! Now your talkin! Hans Zimmer is my favorite film score composer of all time! Zimmer and Howard RAWK! DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 10:17 AM
	Realistically speaking, they will not do a Routh/Bale team-up. WB doesn't want stinkfinger with another Schumacher error. If Nolan doesn't return, they'll reboot in order to bring the DC Universe and their other independent films (GL, Flash, WW) together. Many things have to happen in order to do that. It isn't purely money motivated. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 10:18 AM
	Good point Darth which is why i'd rather have it in at least 3 years than 10. Bale and Nolan did their thing and it was brilliant. Leave it be is all i'm saying. What if DC really wants to give JLA to the fans and wants to put the Bale/Nolan cash cow aside for once? Would that be such a crime? We've had two brilliant films, should we sacrifice our dream of seeing a great JLA film in our near futur just to get a third brilliant bat film? You guys do realise that others can pull off Batman in a more comic book friendly environment without it sucking, don't you??? Or else, why the hell have you went to see all the other CBMs that weren't Nolanised??? X1 X2 Spidey1 Spidey2 Ironman TIH V for Vendetta 300 Watchmen NONE of those were Nolanised yet they were all brilliantly comic book films. The JLA is possible, all you need to do is leave the Nolanverse on it's pedestal for everyone to admire and NO ONE to destroy. Shaman - 11/17/2009, 10:19 AM
	@jazzman: Love the poster damn that's nice. SHHH - 11/17/2009, 10:19 AM
	Clive Owen for Black Mask nerosday - 11/17/2009, 10:21 AM
	I was married to Hans Zimmer at one point. MsKyle08 - 11/17/2009, 10:22 AM
	TDK was criticly the same as Begins..Heath built the hype and the money...even if Nolan returned it wont make the same money again so get someone else if he is not commiting...he knows TDK was a fluke and is shitting himself thats all.lol :) teabag - 11/17/2009, 10:22 AM
	@ Shaman: true dat! =D DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 10:25 AM
	Sorry to say this, but I agree with Shaman. Batman Begins released in 2005. We need to get a move on with the JLA and the Nolanverse is a roadblock. They could have made the third instalment by now, or at least have it release in 2010. Just to put it in perspective, Harry Potter will have made 4 movies from 2005-2010. This new DC studio is in a tough spot: either they come up with a 3rd movie and greatly delay the JLA movie (and each superhero movie attached) or they put and end to this series and risk losing all the box office cash they could have made. My point is, the fact that we're having this conversation means WB/Nolan made a mistake by not cashing in on this quickly enough. Now, no matter what they do, a very large group of fans will be let down. GreenLantern416 - 11/17/2009, 10:27 AM
	JJ Abrams for Superman's franchise keeping Routh McTeigue for Batman's franchise getting Cavil Campbell for Green Lantern's franchise with Wade Wilson That smells alot like JLA material to me. All there needs is a sprinkle of a Wonder Woman film and a dash of The Flash movie. You got yourself a freakin' JLA!!! Snyder for Wonder Woman Wachowski's for The Flash TREY PARKER and MATT STONE for JLA!!! Uh... no, sorry. My bad... :P Shaman - 11/17/2009, 10:28 AM
	SHHH - 11/17/2009, 10:28 AM
	@nerosday of course Bale complained about the suit. its because it was hard for him to move about. thats why they change the suit from Batman Begins to the TDK suit. he did try and bulk up but its hard for some people to put on alot of weight very quickly unless he start taking ROIDS. saying he lacked intensity and focus is funny cause one of the most intense and focus actor in Hollywood. i guess you have not seen Harsh Times and The Machinist. the only thing we can complain was the Batman voice was too deep and it was off putting. jazzman - 11/17/2009, 10:30 AM
	I agree the next Batman will not make the money TDK did or the critical acclaim, it will be viewed as a lesser film whether deserved or not, it's got to be daunting for Nolan you're right about that teabag. The stars lined up perfectly for TDK on so many levels. The next Batman will do well, but I don’t see anything coming near the success of TDK at least not financially. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 10:31 AM
	Tell me what y'all think? Found this and make sure you watch it all the way thru. I thought it was a pretty good job. SHHH - 11/17/2009, 10:35 AM
	I don't see why him not returning in and of itself is a bad thing. Yeah, he did an amazing job, and yes I'd like to see him make another, however there are other really amazing and totally capable directors out there and if he doesn't think he has anymore batman stories left to tell then I'm fine with that. Now if they were to announce that Bay was next in line to helm batman then I'd cry foul, but just the fact that Nolan isn't necessarily interested in another isn't troubling to me at all. James bond has had plenty of directors, I'd like to see something like that with batman, just keep telling great stories and when the director is done another comes in and does more. thwhtGuardian - 11/17/2009, 10:36 AM
	@Jazz: I'm speaking specifically of TDK. I think physically Bale was ideal in Batman Begins, but gaunt in TDK. When he stated in interviews that he would not put the effort into bulking up again as he did for BB I got a little miffed. Bale had again lost weight this time for Rescue Dawn as he had for the Machinist before Batman Begins though he lost much more for the later. He just seemed flippant about TDK in many ways. And to me it showed. IMO he put in the weakest performance in the film. I still think he is a good actor, hell a great actor but he doesn't like to repeat his roles and has a sizeable ego and tends to be a bit spoiled as shown by having T4 rewritten to enlarge his part at the cost of muddeling the film up, his outbursts. I think he is no longer excited about the role of Batman and it showed a litle in TDK. Bale is a great actor for complex and demanding roles, but a franchise is different, you revisit the same character and try to develope him more, Bale could do this but I don't think his heart is in it. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 10:44 AM
	Question Is The Black Mask in 'The Dark Knight'. It doesn't refer to him as Black Mask/Roman Sionis but take a look at Tommy Lister's (Deebo from Friday) tattoos on his neck. The design and pattern is that of The Black Mask. Lister played the large prisoner on the boat who threw the detonator out the window. Let me know if you think that was intended to be Black Mask or pay homage to the Batman foe? Or is the tattoos wrong? SHHH - 11/17/2009, 10:47 AM
	Nerosday is right, Jazzman. As brillaint as Bale has been in other films, as stale and flat he's been in TDK. Thank god for Heath is all i'm saying. Since the film was brilliant all around, i can honestly say that Bale was the absolute worst part of TDK. Sure others would have done worse but it still doesn't excuse an actor of Bale's caliber. Shaman - 11/17/2009, 10:48 AM
	Agree with Guardian, Batman is like the james bond of comic book movies. Another direction, maybe something a bit more gothic would be OK. MarkV - 11/17/2009, 10:53 AM
	WHY DOES WB/DC TAKE SO LONG TO GET FILMS OUT! IF MARVEL OWNED BATMAN AND HAD MADE AS MUCH AS TDK DID, THE 3 FILM WOULD ALREADY BE OUT! I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NOLAN RETURN, HE HAS MADE 2 AWESOME BATMAN FILMS! BigNick - 11/17/2009, 11:07 AM
	I'd like to see Nolan for one more and that's it, I don't think any other director could really capture TDK's tone as well as he can. But right after that third movie is made RE-BOOT the franchise as soon as possible since with GL maybe starting the DC movie universe we need Batman in there too and Nolan's Batman just doesn't fir. In GL have a Superman cameo, make Superman have a wonder woman cameo...etc until Batman is back on the market again fresh from the third Nolan movie and add him into the universe...then JLA vs Darksied. ;) Ryden - 11/17/2009, 11:12 AM
	if not nolan than a JLA friendly reboot! CorndogBurglar - 11/17/2009, 11:13 AM
	I hope Nolan is available in some capacity, if he's unable to direct. I feel he’s needed to oversee the film at the very least in order to keep faithful to his vision and Goyer's script. kaos - 11/17/2009, 11:20 AM
	Nolan's probably shitting himself on trying to live up to TDK soforizo - 11/17/2009, 11:21 AM
	Rayden here is the matter: as sono as possible probably means 5 year from now MisterFixit - 11/17/2009, 11:24 AM
	@ nerosday and Shaman well in the TDK to me he was good only think i can complain was the Batman voice was way off. Bale as Bruce Wayne was great but when he does the Batman voice was bad. i dont blame him for the T4 to be rewritten i would if it was me. T4 was already a bad script anyway i hope you know the writters who wrote the first script before it was rewritten was John Brancato and Michael Ferris. if you dont know who are the writters they are the same guys who wrote the god awful Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines and Catwoman. Terminator Salvation was way better than Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines that movie felt like a freaking joke. Terminator Salvation failed cause WB hiring McG to direct the movie plus changing the rating of the movie from R-Rated to PG-13. when you watching the movie you can notice how bad that movie been edited cause of the PG-13 rating. jazzman - 11/17/2009, 11:25 AM
	There were Batman films and shows before Nolan. There will be Batman films and shows after him. If he doesn't have time or desire to do another one, let him move on. It won't bother me too much if Nolan doesn't return, honestly. Would you want a director forced to do a film when he doesn't have any good ideas for it? A bad film to tarnish whatever you love about the two he did? If and when another director is brought in to film Batman, I'd hope it would be Paul Dini or Bruce Timm. I'd love to see their take on a live-action Batman story. Just no Joker. He's been done and done and done. comicb00kguy - 11/17/2009, 11:26 AM
	We have had Batman as a regurlar part of the movie scene for 20 yrs..ive said it before but i can live without yet another movie if it means more money and time will be spent on a new character..FLASH for example, WB needs to stop pimping bats out :) teabag - 11/17/2009, 11:33 AM
	Here's my take on the whole Nolan/Batman thing: - If he comes back, that would be great! He could end his trilogy on his terms. - If he does come back for another installment, I doubt it would have the box office profit of TDK. It's possible, but I doubt it. I guarantee the studio doesn't feel that way, though. - If he doesn't and some other director tries to copy his style and tone from the previous two films, it has a tremendous possibility to fail. - If he doesn't come back, another director and a new cast could mean the cinematic start of the JLA. Nolan's take on things is too grounded in reality for characters like Martian Manhunter and GL to fit in. I vote for a fresh start in hopes of a future JLA project. Not because I didn't enjoy Nolan's movies; but because I don't think we need another Batman movie solo just yet. Of course it's going to happen, but it's unnecessary. Focus on the other characters' independent films (GL, Flash, Wonder Woman) and wait for JLA to bring back Supes and Bats. MultiPurposePoni - 11/17/2009, 11:33 AM
	I think there has to be performance anxiety on Nolan's part to follow up TDK, but I don't think it's warranted. No one in their right mind would think the follow up would make the money or praise of TDK, except maybe the idiots who run the studios and just see dollar signs. Just get out there with a good story and hammer out quality stuff. The fans will return in droves if not the enormous mass market and the movie will do just fine. The sad part is “just fine” will be instantly labeled a failure. All be it a 300Mil+ critically hailed one. That bugs me. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 11:35 AM
	once again, batman has been around since 1939, saying that chris [frick]ing nolan is the only guy for the job is preposterous. deathmetalbrian - 11/17/2009, 11:38 AM
	I do love the poster above and the Shadow of the Bat title is great. I always wondered why they didn't just use the names of the various comics as titles anyway with films like Spiderman esspecially, Spiderman, the Amazing Spiderman, the Spectacular Spiderman, the web of Spiderman, etc. With Bats, you have some great ones too, Batman, the Dark Night, Year One, Shadow of the bat, Gotham Knights. I'd even love to see a spin-off of Gotham Central that focuses on Gary Oldman as Gordon and MCU. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 11:42 AM
	@nerosday: Gotham Central would be a GREAT syndicated cable mini-series! Now is the perfect time for it to come out since Bats is on the run. I think people fail to realize that Nolan has had NO competition in the DC movie universe so far. The only three mainstream DC movies that have been released this decade are Superman Returns, Batman Begins and TDK. The only character to have successful movies was Batman. Not only will Nolan have to appease the studio by producing a movie that will match TDK's profits, but he has Martin Campbell's Green Lantern already in pre-production. If he does another Batman movie, he will have people comparing it to TDK and GL. It's a big risk. MultiPurposePoni - 11/17/2009, 11:45 AM
	Holy crap, I never saw that Schwarzenegger scene, I can't believe that was taken out. gtrman - 11/17/2009, 11:46 AM
	Its funny when you think about it, Batman's new franchise is the cash cow of the WB superhero movies, but it is the one franchise that has been made with the specific line to keep it grounded in the "real world," and totally isolated from the chance to merge with the rest of the DC film Universe and JLA. It really goes to show how much is riding on Green Lantern as that will be the first of these movies to say "yes, there are other heroes and cities in this world, and yes they do exist and know of one another." The company’s direction has changed finally, but will require the end of its most successful part, because they lacked the foresight to realize that at some point everything would have to gel. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 12:18 PM
	I think the whole JLA issue depends on the success of GL and Avengers. WB is letting Marvel be it's test monkey, and that's wise. But I would say that if Avengers fails, you can probably kiss JLA good bye too. DarthMulder - 11/17/2009, 12:24 PM
	Nolan should come back simply because the story he is telling is not complete. Really I couldnt be bothered about the Justice League movie until we see the other memebers translated well on screen. The reason behind the JL delay is improper planning on Warners part, they knew what type of director they were getting for Batman. If they werent just following Marvel they would have rebooted Supes and Bats in unison even if it just led to Worlds Finest Bale was good in both movies, nad I personally prefer the realistic take on Gotham, for me thats where Batman belongs just as I prefer the MAx version of the Punisher. A lot of things made TDK good: story, cast, batpod, director. People say it was hyped by Ledgers death but can you actually say that he didnt give one hell of a performance? Nolans films are smart regardless of goofs as all movies have them breakUbatman - 11/17/2009, 12:25 PM
	jazzman- Actually, Bale's portrayal of Bruce Wayne is probably the biggest problem i have. But i won't drag it in this thread, we're already debating about it on the keaton thread ;) Shaman - 11/17/2009, 12:25 PM
	i saw it on the delted scene dvd...LMFAO.... lame at best... vonstallin - 11/17/2009, 12:26 PM
	Its simple, Christopher Nolan needs to come back to finish off the trilogy. Look what happened to the X-Men movies and Terminator movies when the director changed for the third one, they were disappointments (now I know they were crap directors who took over the third movie and Warner Brothers could always get another awesome director to take over the third movie but this is Warner Brothers, its just gonna be a repeat of the transistion from Batman Returns to Batman Forever and we dont want a repeat of that!) dellamorte1872 brought up a brilliant point, Christopher Nolan needs to come back to finish off the trilogy's story or some other director will [frick] it up. Once Nolan has finished up the trilogy then I think the Batman franchise will be in need of new blood anyway for the fourth movie so they should bring in a new talented director (as LEEE said already, the Watchmen crew would do an awesome job and Zack Snyder could take the franchise into more supervillain territory such as Killer Croc and Penguin which Nolan would never use but Zack could stop the movies from becoming a joke again. He could balance the realistic and fantasy tones as he did in Watchmen and he wouldnt camp it up) And please no more [frick]ing reboots! Those of you that [frick]ing voted reboot in the poll should shut up right now @SHHH That live performance was awesome. I bloody love the Batman theme. The theme has the right balance of heroic and epicness! @grif THEY GAVE HIM A BAT CREDIT CARD! DOES NOT COMPUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE! dancingmonkey08 - 11/17/2009, 12:27 PM
	Im no DC expert but why exactly couldnt Nolans/Bale's Batman be included in a JLA movie!? JoshW - 11/17/2009, 12:28 PM
	I think that Batman 3, if it gets made, might be able to match the success of TDK if they through the Joker in, people will be curious to see what they've done. Potentialy [frick]ing up the Joker could make them rich, and at the same time people will want to see it simply because it could be a great movie like TDK. Curiosity makes cash, there'll be just as much hype for this movie than there will be for TDK, even more so I mean we're already talking about it as if it's already in pre-production and we know very little about what's going on. I mean all of you guys will be seeing it if it's made that's a given. And the public will want to see it because the last one was such a hit and people want to see how Heath was handled. Story wise I think we're pretty safe because as much as I would like to see a faithful Batman adaption I think a third one might be needed and I'll give credit where credit is due, Nolan knows how to direct and write a realisitc Batman movie, a third one would rap things up niceley. Then give a few years to prepare Batman for a reboot hire Henry Cavill and start fresh. Get a WW, GL sequel, Flash, new supes and then a JLA movie with MMH appearing first in that film. Then when all is said and done and both universes (MARVEL AND DC MOVIE UNIVERSES) we should a massive crossover movie that should be split into like three three hour movies and just be the most epic piece of cinema EVER,and you know that story won't matter because if Hulk and Supes are in the same film you won't be caring how they relate to each other? ;) Ryden - 11/17/2009, 12:33 PM
	Neither am I Josh! But it seems to be the prevailing view that Nolan's Bat is sooooo grounded in reality, that a GL, Superman, Flash and Wonder Woman could not possibly enter into it. Now that we've entered into a time when we're trying to make CBM's as believable and real as possible, I think that kind of thinking limits potential. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 12:33 PM
	I totally agree with what Shaman and Mutli are saying. If he comes back, that's awesome. He can end his trilogy properly. If he doesn't, oh well, sucks, but life goes on. We still have his amazing first 2 Bats movies. I'm actually leaning towards him maybe not coming back, like Shaman and Multi said. I just want a new Batman for the JL film, not Nolan-verse Batman, and that means no Bale, and Nolan not coming back opens that opportunity up. Cavill for Batman (our numbers grow by the day!) InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 12:34 PM
	nolans batman wouldnt go into space, so superman couldn't wave to him!;) FORTAPACHE - 11/17/2009, 12:35 PM
	@ Shaman: "JJ Abrams for Superman's franchise keeping Routh McTeigue for Batman's franchise getting Cavil Campbell for Green Lantern's franchise with Wade Wilson" That would all be great. The directors and the feel of their films really matches the characters. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 12:36 PM
	Yo @ MULTI!! Theres a news update from VARIETY!!! Townsend plays = Fandral, Stevenson plays = Volstagg the Valiant, Asano plays = Hogan the Grim. I cant put it in the THOR article coz its in Main lol, just thought CBM should know, ive wrote it down but its not in the article of course lol! JAZZMAN @ Cool T3 vid clip dude!! LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 12:36 PM
	Josh & Phin: It’s not that his Batman can't be phased in, it is that he and Bale have both stated repeatedly they WON'T do it. Nolan has said he has no interest in making the film fit and if forced he will opt out of doing further films, because it doesn't match his vision of a world without superpowers. Bale agrees with this and has stated he would not be in a film that presented super humans either. The continuity could be folded into the greater DC film U, but Nolan and Bale will leave if it happens. Because of that people have always assumed the Nolan films as a stand alone complex. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 12:41 PM
	Phinehas: Yeah, that doesnt really make a lot of sense! What would a new Batman movie have to be to fit in with the JLA - more camp? More unrealistic? If Marvel can make Iron Man work alongside Thor in The Avengers then I dont see the problem! LEE: Cool update man! I still cant work out why they've chosen an Asian actor for Hogan though!? :) JoshW - 11/17/2009, 12:42 PM
	JJ Abrams would totally own Superman, so long as he doesn't write the script LOL :) We all know what could have happened with his Superman script... Abrams for director of the ROUTHBOOT! I still have yet to see McTeague's work. I don't know who I'd choose for a new Bats director. David Fincher maybe. InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 12:42 PM
	@LEEE777 that T3 clip feels so wrong @nerosday JJ Abrams script for his Superman had Lex Luthor as Kryptonian. as much we like JJ Abrams but if he makes Lex Luthor as a Kryptonian i will not watch it. jazzman - 11/17/2009, 12:44 PM
	nerosday: Huh, I get why a director would feel that way but why does Bale? Terminator was very much a sci-fi film but he wouldnt want to play Batman alongside Superman...doesnt make much sense, lol! Im sure if he was offered enough $$$ he'd do it though! ;) JoshW - 11/17/2009, 12:45 PM
	Jazz, I know I read the Abrams script synapsis. I should have amended that statement to fit more like Tyler's I like Abrams to Direct, not to write. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 12:49 PM
	LOL Maybe because doesn't want to portray the odd man out regarding power! Furthermore, the movie wouldn't be just about his character. EGO!!! True Nero, but fans think it wouldn't work either because it seems "too reality based". Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 12:51 PM
	Nobody thought a dark Batman man movie would work until Burton did it. Nobody thought another director could top it until Nolan did it. If he choses not to come back, another director will come in and rock it. WB saw what happened when they treated the franchise as a cash cow and I don't see them making those mistakes again. There will be more Batman movies and they will be good, with or without Nolan. I want to see the Riddler and Killer Croc and I want to see them in the next couple of years. drizzle123 - 11/17/2009, 12:52 PM
	@ josh: It goes to my feelings on Bale... sure he could do it, but he really has no passion for comic movies and sees Bats as a job, one I think he considers somewhat beneath him. Again; I've no proof of that, aside from just listening to the way he talks about the films, as if they are a job, and not something he enjoys. Bale has been a "serious" actor since childhood, so I think playing a superhero really doesn't appeal to him on that child-like level that Chiklis gets out of playing Thing or some other actors who really like playing a superhero. Its just work. He comes off as a joyless guy to me really. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 12:56 PM
	TYLER DUDE!!! You haven't seen McTeigue's work?!?!?!?! Go rent V for Vendetta RIGHT NOW!!! :)) Josh- Bale is one of the most anal actors out there and he grows tighter by the praise. He doesn't want Robin and he doesn't want the JLA. Bale is a no and so is Nolan. Which is why BOTH should step down. WB should cancel Bale's contract and get Henry Cavill for NOT a reboot/origin but rather a continuation in a different view. A more superhuman friendly view. Shaman - 11/17/2009, 12:59 PM
	@nerosday ok yeah JJ Abrams would be great to direct the movie. jazzman - 11/17/2009, 1:01 PM
	@Tyler- That's a great choice for a new Batman director, heres hoping he doesn't cast Keanu Reeves lol ;D But I can see that happening, I saw through Fight Club how Fincher can direct violence wel which is somethiong lacking from pretty much all of the Batman films and a really gripping story like in Fight Club and Zodiac and etc but Paul Dini and Bruce Timm NEED to write the script they'd do an amazing job. Zach Snyder for Batman Beyond or the X-Men reboot. I agree with JJ Abrhams for Superman, Mark Miller to write it. Keep Campbell with GL, James Mangold for Wonder Woman. I could also see Paul Thomas Anderson as the director of Batman, don't know why he just came to mind. Ryden - 11/17/2009, 1:03 PM
	Mostly every noncomicbook fan is familiar to both Supe's and Bat's origins which is why a reboot is not necessary at all. They can pick up both characters without having to do a full reboot. Just resume as though the continuity meshed. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 1:04 PM
	JOSH @ Me neither man, but heck i cant understand why we've got Ultimate FURY in a AVENGERS movie! : D Okay i wont go there lol! JAZZ @ Lol, yeah!! SHAMAN @ Any self respecting comic book fan should own a copy of "V FOR VENDETTA!!! ; P LEEE777 - 11/17/2009, 1:05 PM
	Nerosday- Yeah i mean, all they need is to get Mark Millar on the script and JJ Abrams to direct! That would give us the best Superman franchise EVER!!! But i'd keep Routh only because i really haven't seen any better choice so far. Hemsworth would have been cool but he's Thor. Chris Pine is a favorite of mine but he's a little less commanding than Routh and well my other pick was Jim Caviezel which is getting pretty old and also stated that he wouldn't do it. Henry Cavill would have been a good choice as well but a way better Batman replacement ;) Shaman - 11/17/2009, 1:06 PM
	Lets have Uwe Boll direct Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, JLA, etc just kidding LOL jazzman - 11/17/2009, 1:06 PM
	nerosday & Shaman: you guys really arent fans of Bale? He's one of my favourite actors!!! He was brilliant in The Prestige and 3: 10 To Yuma and one of the only good things about Terminator: Salvation! :) I understand both of your points but I'd like to see him stay on as Batman for a long time! JoshW - 11/17/2009, 1:07 PM
	Shaman: I know, I really want to see V, I mean, how could you go wrong with Hugo Weaving, but I just haven't gotten around to it :) I will eventually! Ryden: Well, I'm sure you know my deal with Fight Club, so it's not a surprise I would suggest Fincher. Dini would rock a Bats script. For another example of Fincher's greatness, check out Seven. It's awesome, it has the detective story that is missing also from the current Bats movies. InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 1:07 PM
	" he's a little less commanding than Routh " When was Routh commanding!?! He couldn't command a sack of potatos! Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 1:07 PM
	@Phin: I'm with you 100% on the lack of Supes or bats origins to come up again in a reboot of either, everyone and I mean everyone knows enough about them to not have to subject the general viewing public or the fanboys to yet another origin movie. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 1:09 PM
	I do like the idea of getting an older Superman and Bats for JLU. As though they had been battle hardened and able to command others in rank and file. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 1:09 PM
	LEEE- You're right. TYLER DUDE!!! You haven't seen McTeigue's work?!?!?!?! Go BUY V for Vendetta RIGHT NOW!!! :)) Shaman - 11/17/2009, 1:11 PM
	@ Josh: No, I love Bale's acting in most everything. He is a great actor. But in interviews he comes off as a very cold almost distant guy. That is what I am referring to not his talent, just his apparent personality. But again, I've never met the guy, I'm just going off of his vibe in the situations I've seen him while not on the big screen. *Then again in most interviews with US media he drops his accent and may seem so "focused" because he's thinking too much about what to say and how to say it. Dude, just talk to us normally. We can understand you just fine without the fauxyank thing going on. nerosday** - 11/17/2009, 1:14 PM
	TYLER: Have you seen 'Zodiac' directed by Fincher? Its excellent! :) JoshW - 11/17/2009, 1:16 PM
	Josh: Yes I have, yet another example of Fincher's awesomeness :) Nerosday, don't make me trash your lights! InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 1:18 PM
	nerosday: I get what you mean - IMO, despite his well known Terminator outburst I've always thought that he comes across as being uncomfortable when being interviewed! Maybe in reality he's just a quiet guy...or maybe he only cares about when his next pay cheque is coming, lol! Either way, Id like to see him remain as Bats! :D JoshW - 11/17/2009, 1:18 PM
	I'm going to put my two cents in here and just say that D.C is not going to do a Justice League film until Avengers comes out. All of the weight is on Marvel to see how a superhero group movie does with both production, actors, and profits. D.C needs to sit on JL and play wait and see, if Marvel pulls off a successful Avengers movie you can bet your ass JL will get made, with Nolans universe or not. D.C is not going to dump millions in to a movie that's a risk, especially with a cast of relative unknowns, unless they have Star Treks luck with them. As for Nolan, with the success of Dark Knight the third movie was already set up to fail at least from a profit stand point, I'm sure the story and performances would still be great. ASSASSIN666 - 11/17/2009, 1:19 PM
	Josh- Actually i'm also a great fan of Bale's work, just not his Batman and ESPECIALLY not his Bruce Wayne ;) Tyler- In all honesty, V for Vendetta is probably one of my favorite films of all time. Not just CBMs. It's brilliant. Just don't read the comic before so not as to be too dissapointed with the changes and stuff. It's a great film just not such a great addaptation apparently. I'm just telling what i heard cause i've never read the comics. Phinehas- LOL well... i didn't want to put it as blunt as you did but yes, you are correct about Routh. However, he was ordered to follow a very specific mold that didn't allow an ounce of liberty. Which is why i want him back to really show me what he's got instead of his Chris Reeve imitation ;) Shaman - 11/17/2009, 1:21 PM
	TYLER: Then I have to agree with you that Fincher is the best candidate to direct the next Batman movie if Nolan doesnt! He'd probably be a great choice for directing a new Daredevil movie thinking about it..! Shaman: Good point about Routh - Returns was one long impersonation! ;( JoshW - 11/17/2009, 1:22 PM
	Tyler, you and I are done professionally. :) nerosday - 11/17/2009, 1:24 PM
	Shaman: I haven't read the comics either, so I'll likely be pleased with it too :) Josh: I also think Fincher would rock the sht out of a Deadpool movie. nerosday: I'm gonna fcking kick your fcking ass if you don't shut up for a second! ;) InTylerWeTrust82* - 11/17/2009, 1:25 PM
	Shaman, although I am convinced that Routh doesn't have it, I'd rather it be that he prove it with something other than Supes first, which he has not done. He's a fraud, I tell you. Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 1:29 PM
	I never understood why people think nolan's batman wouldn't work in the dc universe. Batman's always been a little different, he's always been the odd duck and yet he fits in fine. thwhtGuardian - 11/17/2009, 1:29 PM
	i say that they need nolan to come back cause theres no director that could do a batman movie like he did it. and make gl make a cameo in it so it could lead up to a jla movie cuz i think nolan batman could fit in a jla movie flames809 - 11/17/2009, 1:31 PM
	@nerosday Bale is not a big fan of interviews he love his work and all. his basically just comfortable with his wife and daughter around him. heres Christian Bale smiling on a day out poses with some pirates. jazzman - 11/17/2009, 1:31 PM
	Tyler: [frick]-sake man, you’re amateur. Shaman, you got [frick]ing something to say to this prick? nerosday - 11/17/2009, 1:32 PM
	nerosday: OOOOHHHH GOOD FOR YOU! Cavill for Bats, you know it to be true... InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 1:35 PM
	lol :) nerosday - 11/17/2009, 1:40 PM
	@Tyler- Damn right man Cavill for BATS Bale for the barking dog that KICKS BATMAN'S ASS...oh wait that's a Nolan movie ;D Ryden - 11/17/2009, 1:42 PM
	Nero and Tyler, that was too funny! LOL Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 1:46 PM
	Bale for the garbage disposal, oh wait, that's already in Batman's throat. My mistake :) InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 1:51 PM
	Phin: "That’s what that is man, I’m telling you. I’m not asking, I’m telling you. You wouldn’t have done that otherwise." :) oooh, that rant. Someone must have shit in his cornflakes that morinig. What a gold mine. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 1:52 PM
	What's really funny is that you guys have it memorized. X-D Phinehas - 11/17/2009, 1:55 PM
	NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Someone help us!!!!! Where all doomed it's the end of all comicbook movies again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whats going to happen to us comicbook geeks now! Dosen't someone agree with me?!!! legder20 - 11/17/2009, 1:56 PM
	hmm...who is this cavill fellow and what has he done? :D MsKyle08 - 11/17/2009, 1:58 PM
	lol, momorized, hell. I've got a freakin' transcript on my computer. The best part is running it through one of those monotone voice programs. I left it on a friends answering machine once. Tweaked it like it was an automated message that got pissed with his voicemail.. laughed his ass off when he heard it. nerosday - 11/17/2009, 2:00 PM
	Phinehas: I've watched it so many times, and it's just so funny it sticks to my head! Like the Bill O'Reilly rant. The remix also helped :) InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/17/2009, 2:01 PM
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