Should X-4 Have Continuity?

X-4 IDEAS!!!!

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By Scorpioxfactor - 7/28/2009
Why I think X-Men 4 should have Continuity:

1. We already know all the characters. No more origins or reboots.
2. We put too much time in Jack Hughman as Wolverine to not use him in X-4.
3. We don't know if Scott Summers (Cyclops for the newbie) is dead. We never
actually saw him die on screen.
4. Also, all the people that dematerialized could’ve been transported
somewhere else. Like the Shiar Galaxy for example.
5. Jean Grey after X-2 reappeared as Phoenix. The real Jean Grey could be in
a coccon as in the comics in a suspended animation status.
6. Professor appearing in someone else's body. Now that could be left open
for interpretation. The reason Phoenix could've killed the professor is she
discovered he was under the control of the Shadow King. Also, is the body
the Professor jumped into handicapped from walking as well? Or will
the Professor walk again?
7. Did Senator Kelly die in X-1. Magneto says to Storm "Are you sure you saw
what you thought you saw?"
8. What about the villians? There is a whole gallery of villians to use for
X-4. How about Nimrod? More Sentinels? Hellfire Club? Apocalypse.
How would you, the fan, incorporate old Apoc into the storyline? Or the
how about the Brood?
9. You could have Cable in X-4, then spinoff a Cable movie.
10. I have spoken about some questions that I thought and pondered. I
hope I have generated some more ideas and interest in the comic
fans after they read this article. Thank you for taking time to read mine.
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AshleyWilliams - 7/28/2009, 5:23 AM
good ideas,either way you go bring back cyclops in X4!
JoshWilding - 7/28/2009, 8:47 AM
they're some good ideas for avoiding a reboot! i just want to see some Sentinals and the return of Cyclops (no more Magneto though please!) a decent director who isnt Singer or Ratner would also be nice!
superdog - 7/28/2009, 9:36 AM
all of these ideas would work. i dont think a reboot is in needed. there are plenty of stories to continue with. and who says the cure is permanent? they have no idea about long term effects. there could be side effects that no one can forsee. thats how you can bring apocolypse into this one. he was a powerful mutant already, then he took the cure and it mutated him to the most powerful mutant ever. or sinister would be an easy villain to incorporate as well. he has a long history of stealing scott an jean for his experiments. maybe that where cyclops and the real jean are, with him.
ironknight27 - 7/28/2009, 11:30 AM
The mutant massacre would be a cool storyline on screen and you could involve both Apocalypse and Sinister.
Osiris - 7/28/2009, 5:10 PM
I think they should continue the X franchise with a 4th installment taking place after the last stand, I see no reason to reboot.

young X-men is an okay idea to just show where everyone came from and give more info on backgrounds but there is no reason to make a series of movies out of it, I say make young X-men then continue on with the regular X franchise.
Scarface - 7/28/2009, 6:35 PM
Some great ideas I agree with the no more magneto.
Bring back Scott for sure as you said we don,t see his body.
Jean is to powerful to kill so she is back too
Xavier is still kickin
Bring back nightcrawler he was one of the best parts from x2
Introduce 1 or 2 more X-men i,d kinda like to see Emma Frost done right follow up on Gambit from x-men origins.
Back off on wolverines screen time to further develop some other worthy X-men colossus beast or rogue maybe.
Recast Storm berry had her chances.

TheShakeBake - 7/28/2009, 10:55 PM
We need some more of the Juggernaut i was not impressed with what little screen time he had my favorite mutant IS Juggernaut i loved that actor and thought he did great, the script just sucked

We should move on
1.Sentinels
2.Apocalypse
3.more x-men development, WHERE THE HELL NIGHTCRAWLER GO? ,and never got to see angel in action, well kinda i dont consider him picking up his dad action lol that was friggin horrible.

we need more X-men

SHAKE N' BAKE
Osiris - 7/29/2009, 12:51 AM
if you play the x-men 3 movie game it explains where Nightcrawler went, it's the only good reason to play it...lol
Tylert80 - 7/29/2009, 1:26 AM
osiris you just gave me an idea. Anything they can't put in the movies they put in the game. That could help explain plot holes and missing characters.

Anyway back on topic fair enough we give the other x-men some screen time to explain their story but you need some other people to add into the mix aswell like some group helping/fighting the x men.
TheShakeBake - 7/29/2009, 9:10 AM
@Osiris
im not going to waste my money on renting that game could u just tell me? lol

SHAKE N' BAKE
XmenFanx - 7/29/2009, 1:25 PM
yes..i like this.we cant bring both professor back and cyclops in x4, itd be too rushed, that shuld happen in future films, i say bring baack cyclops first, have sinister find him on alkali lake,and take him to his headdquarters.. but i really like this artcle!great job!
dixon1987 - 7/29/2009, 1:25 PM
we need a 4th i wantd 2 see juggernaut n colossus go at it!

oh and bring back CYCLOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
Scarface - 7/29/2009, 6:07 PM
juggernaut vs colossus would be awesome for sure.
I think we need a new actor for juggernaut i didn't care for vinny jones in this one
Osiris - 7/29/2009, 9:01 PM
@TheShakeBake@ it was kinda lame, but also made sense with Kurt's personalty, he quit the team because he thought that their life was to violent and could not stand to live that way, so he left.
TheMyth - 7/29/2009, 9:25 PM
I have been campaigning this for years now... Mutant Massacre for X4. Gives us the Marauders, Morlocks, and Mr. Sinister. For a movie adaptation, this is also a good spot to put Gambit on the team. This story also uses several of the X-Men we are left with at the end of X3. As many know, I am the uncanniest of X-fans ;) and to me, Mr. Sinister is, and lways will be one of the deadliest villains of the entire X-verse, and to me, one of the most sinister(pun intended) villains in all of fiction. It is only fitting he be given his turn in the silver screen spotlight. I could go on for hours about this one, again as many of you know. Bottom line though, I am totally with you Scorpio, NO REBOOTS.

In the comics, the 'Dark Phoenix' was a clone of Jean Grey created by Mr. Sinister... one more reason to include him. Maybe that's where Dark Phoenix sent Cyke... The professor has been 'killed' probably more times than any other comic character ever, not an exaggeration. They could pick any one of those occasions to explain his return and keep it to the source.
IronPatriot - 7/30/2009, 3:21 PM
@TheShakeBake Did you say that Juggy is your favorite mutant?


Tsk tsk.
Scorpioxfactor - 8/1/2009, 7:52 AM
I have been watching X-Men with interest these last few days. I have delved into X-3 again yet. Okay. I think that X-1 was good but what do you want for a pioneered film? I mean they still have fight scenes and drama and stuff blowing up. Then X-2 Very good for a sequel, characters in there, nightcrawler kicking ass, but for the bad guys unfornately, a remake of the Operation Zero Tolerance storyline. Still I wanted more Colussus. At least he got to be in 2 X movies. Forget about X-men First class. Show the X-men we know and love in another feature film.
WeekendAvenger - 8/8/2009, 11:56 AM
Sorry to dissapoint you folks but even if they do make an X4 the x-men movie franchise is dead
flames809 - 8/19/2009, 8:16 PM
the franchise is not dead they could have sinister capture cyclops and jean and since the x men thing professor x is dead they could introduce Emma frost and gambit gambit could be in sinister lab and Emma could help the x men find cyclops and jean cuz wolverine probably things there both alive and he ask Emma to look for them
GoddamnBatman - 8/21/2009, 2:37 PM
Cyclops may still liveeeee! I'd like to see more angel, iceman and colossus on the battleground...although colossus shoulda been russian (dammit bret) And rogue shoulda kept her power (dammit bret) And like i posted in other forums, if only Tyler Mane was juggernaut instead of sabretooth...I enjoyed Liev's sabretooth more anyways, he looked like an evil wolverine twin (and that's the way it should be)
GoddamnBatman - 8/21/2009, 2:43 PM
In x4 ideas...MORE sentinels...have they been confirmed to appear in wolverine2 or magneto or first class or deadpool (so many x-men so little time) I think they should introduce them in magneto's movie he could turn em inside out. If they were introduced in one of the prequels, there would be a connection to why there was a giant robot in the danger room in x3.
flames809 - 8/25/2009, 11:05 AM
i want to see more new x men fights more danger room and new villains and rouge gets her power back
TheGambitFreakIsBatmanOfCBM - 8/27/2009, 6:45 PM
GAMBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
flames809 - 8/28/2009, 5:02 PM
or those robots was a warning to us that in the next movie will be the sentinels and when wolverine movie was announce they said sinister was suppose to be in it but he wasn't so they probably left him out for x4
JosiahDaniel0335 - 9/4/2009, 3:58 PM
I agree with allot of these ideas. They really need to bring back cyclops as the leader of the x-men, his son cable can come from the future and save him from sinister to stop apocalypse from changing the future.
Needs to be more action, more planed out like some of the comic books. I enjoy reading more than the movie just because some of these directors just and cutting it. I mean there okay but it's there way of telling the story. They need to take it from a fan's point of view. (since they probably know more about the story of the x-men) It needs to be more like the script and director needs to read the comic's (like read them don't say you do) don't kill any one if the comics don't (if they do they will have more people regret ever going to the movies ( I was one of them) and they need to make a better movie.

they really need to make an x-men 4 movie because the first 3 was still about wolverine. Don't get me wrong Wolverine is my favorite but its x-men not wolverine and the x-men. the first 2 movie was ok they need to make it more like the comic books, good story line and action. they have the technology to make more affect then just like on seen like the end of x-men one.

**Beast mutant powers didn't turn him blue
**and Juggernaut is not a mutant so he would have went right through that wall. **And Jean wasn't born with the phoenix it possessed her body to help saved the
world and then Wingard made the phoenix understand emotions that kinda drove her mad. ***
They the director or the script writers read that the hopefully wouldn't have made a bunch of us fan pretty upset. Like I said they don't have to get it like the book but some of these are pretty big, at least to me.

Been a Marvel fan all my life and want to see something good happen before my time is over.
My personal thought is I think Fantastic 4 the First one is like the only marvel movie they did right. I am an X-MEN and Silver Surfer Fan all the was but the stuck by Stan Lee's work on that movie, so it was a good one and wasn't disappointing.

Josiah Daniel
Scorpioxfactor - 10/11/2009, 11:56 PM
Those are great ideas Josiah. I hope with the fans backing our ideas. Something good will come from it all.
harrisr - 11/3/2009, 6:58 PM
All of these ideas are good. As we all know the cure is only temporary since at the end of X3, we see Magneto slowly gaining his powers back. Also, you can almost see the disappointment in Bobby's face when Rogue had taken the cure. Maybe that's a sign that they are slowly drifting apart, also since he and Kitty have been growing close to eachother. I'd say that's a way to take Bobby out of the picture and make room for Gambit in the film for Rogue. Sure, there may be a huge age difference, but come on people, have you not seen Star Wars? Anakin and Padme? Now, if anything, that's a huge age difference there.

And yeah, we never see Cyclops' body, just his glasses, and the fact that the professor had transported into another body. Those are some loose ties. Villains such as Sinister and Apocalypse are a good idea. However, maybe they should have it where this time the villains are not teamed up together. It would be more challenging for the X-Men. More screen time and action scenes for the younger X-Men, aka Rogue, Colossus, Angel. And rather than changing the cast, I think it's a good idea to stick with who we already have seen on screen. It's quite disappointing to see cast changes. Sure, Liev did a good job at Sabretooth, but it woulda been cool to see Tyler reprise his role. Same with the guy who played Stryker.

Anyway, that's all the ideas I can think of for now.
dream - 8/3/2010, 6:34 PM
I am fully agree with the idea above. We definately don need to reboot.....there are plenty of story that can continue from the X-3. Since Jean Grey is a Phoenix, she most likely will survive. The story can continue with emma frost who wish to control the phoenix and have a struggle with x-men team before Sinnister and Apocalypse come into the picture. I agree with the idea that Scott summer should come back with an excuse that he was save by his son from the future and to stop/prevent apocalypse to begin his monster work. prof X. definatelly will have his reason to come, as everyone knows in the last sceen of X-3. Regarding the cure, the story can lead to the plot of Apocalypse where the cure actually trying to turn mutant into his slave and give them extra power. Therefore, rogue can resume to her superhuman strength and new room for gumbit to set into X-men too. With Apocalypse come into the pictures, we definately can have Sentinels place in the movie where x-men not only fighting mutant but also sentinels. I believe the director and FOX are the smart people. Fan will get bored with constant reboot. If there going be a story telling the begin of x-men and the team, i am fine with it. But at least make the X-men movie one link with the sequel. No point having so many x-men movie and disappointed the fan if the casting keep on changing and the story line if not focus. Refer to Stan Lee comic, you will see how fans around the world crazy about the X-men. Not only because their power, but also because their life in it and how the whole story evolve. HOPE FOX and the directors willing make a good X-4..and forward with an unforgettable movie in this century.
Tovonne - 5/27/2011, 3:10 PM
I want Wolverine and Omega Red in the Xmen 4 movie.
Jessi00Z - 2/25/2013, 8:02 AM
I agree with you Cyclops should have just been transported or something not dead, and that Jean should be wrapped in some telekinetic cocoon free of the phoenix now that wolverine has killed her. I think the professor should remain in the other guy's body due to the fact that we watched the phoenix kill him out of anger and most likely hatred form keeping her caged up in Jean. I'm SO GLAD that Emma frost was in first class, because I do not like her plus now she can't be any other x-men movies in the present day, if they chose to make any. I agree that they should bring in Sinister as a villain and the Sentinels too I like that idea. Plus more Gambit he is awesome and its time he met rouge already to have more than just a Jean / Scott / and Logan triangle, and besides we all know she picks Scott. If they make another one they should make it Epic like the Avengers!!
Scorpioxfactor - 8/16/2013, 3:23 AM
Yes. You totally makes sense Jessi00Z.
Scorpioxfactor - 8/16/2013, 3:26 AM
Dream, yes the X-Men Volume 1 issue 230-237 Phoenix Stories should be used. the Hellfire club was a total classic. They kind of ruined X-men 3 by making Magneto try to control the Phoenix instead of Sebastion Shaw. Crazy. But, kind of true from my POV.

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