Fancast by ager: What if Donner never directed Superman '78?

A sequel to my "Fancast: What if other directors brought Batman '89 to the big screen?"

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By ager - 8/11/2012
I will state that, the idea to continue was offered by brokentoejoe@, telling me to use a specific 3 directors and then ILoveStargirl@ asked me to do this with Superman '78. I combined the 2 to attempt what you're about to read.

However, 2 directors chosen by brokentoejoe@ were not big on my list. Ridley Scott, known largely for Alien, and Brian De Palma, who just didn't have enough movies, or actors pool from which to grab. James Cameron, though, was one to consider.



I chose to take this in a different direction. I've taken 2 very successful directors that could have brought alternative versions of Superman to the big screen.

The year is 1978. Francis Ford Coppola, IMO, saw the greatest success as a director and would take Superman into the '80's with 2 movies.

James Cameron would continue the legacy, in the '80's with extending the movies by 2, totaling a 4-part, epic saga.

I will go on the record saying that Christopher Reeve is so iconic that it will be very hard to envision another in that role (at that time) however, for the sake of the fancast, Reeve is not going to audition.



Some actors Reeve beat out for the part:




It was initially decided to first sign an A-list actor for Superman before Richard Donner was hired as director.

Robert Redford was offered a large sum, but felt he was too famous. (wow, what a jerk)

Burt Reynolds also turned down the role (awkward)

Sylvester Stallone was interested, but nothing ever came of it (aww a little mini Superman. YO!!! Lois I did it!!! no, thankfully, you did not)

Paul Newman was offered his choosing as Superman, Lex Luthor or Jor-El for $4 million, turning down all three roles (would've madea great Lex or Jor-El)

When it was next decided to cast an unknown actor, casting director Lynn Stalmaster first suggested Christopher Reeve, but Donner and the producers felt he was too young and skinny (young is/was better than these older actors they were looking at)(weight training, here I come)

Olympic champion Bruce Jenner had auditioned for the title role (of Supergirl, maybe)

Patrick Wayne was cast, but dropped out when his father(John Wayne) was diagnosed with stomach cancer, from which he died months after the film's 1979 release

Both Neil Diamond and Arnold Schwarzenegger lobbied hard for the role, but were ignored (Thankfully) (the jokes are too easy)

James Caan, James Brolin, Lyle Waggoner, Christopher Walken, Nick Nolte, Jon Voight, and Perry King were approached. (Brolin, daddy to Josh looks way to much like Christian Bale...weird and anyway he would be great a few years before '78 but he and the others were waaay too old, what were they think? Maybe setting up for Kingdom Come, still some baaad choices)

Kris Kristofferson and Charles Bronson were also considered for the title role (I smell desperation, and I know the smell well)

"We found guys with fabulous physique who couldn't act or wonderful actors who did not look remotely like Superman," creative consultant Tom Mankiewicz remembered.

The search became so desperate that producer Ilya Salkind's wife's dentist was screen tested. (Truth, justice and flossing regularly)

****For Reeve, portraying the role of Superman would be a stretch for the young actor as his physique was slim. He went through an intense two-month training regimen. In addition, Reeve doubled his food intake and adopted a high protein diet. He added thirty pounds (14 kg) of muscle to his thin 189 pound (86 kg) frame.


About Francis Ford Coppola



Coppola is fascinated by families – their members, structures, dynamics, rules and rituals. These families come in all shapes and sizes: those created by birth (The Godfather) and social forces (The Outsiders), as well as those springing from shared goals (Tucker: The Man and His Dream) and random circumstance (Apocalypse Now). Coppola is intensely interested in how people are able (or unable) to live and work together.

The most famous Coppola family is the Corleones whose history he chronicles in The Godfather trilogy. The Corleone’s saga is a tale of both a family and a nation.

While Michael Corleone’s journey lands him in a hell of his own making, Coppola’s next film, Apocalypse Now, introduces a note of hope. Captain Willard’s trip up river to Colonel Kurtz’s compound is also a journey into Willard’s self as he tries to understand both the Vietnam War and his role in it. Coppola ends the film with (a) brief glimpse of hope – not much, but a start nonetheless.

...the most positive ending since Coppola’s second feature You’re A Big Boy Now, chronicling the misadventures of Bernard Chanticleer as he leaves his suburban home, gets his own apartment in New York City, and experiences both the world and women for the first time.



About Superman



In the original Siegel and Shuster stories, Superman's personality is rough and aggressive, with rather rough edges and a looser moral code than audiences may be used to today. Later writers have softened the character and instilled a sense of idealism and moral code of conduct.

Although not as cold-blooded as the Batman, the Superman featured in the comics of the 1930s is unconcerned about the harm his strength may cause. This came to an end late in 1940 when new editor Whitney Ellsworth instituted a code of conduct for his characters to follow.

Today, Superman is commonly seen as a brave and kind-hearted hero with a strong sense of justice, morality and righteousness.

In Superman/Batman No.3 (December 2003), Batman observes, "It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then... he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him."



THE PLOT OF COPOLLA'S SUPERMAN 1 (1978)



As this is the very first intro of Superman to the world, some respectful time must be given to his crash landing (we learn only as the Kent's learn, there is nothing of Krypton yet) and his childhood.

As a young child, when his powers begin to develop, Jonathan Kent tells him that he "must not share your secret with the world. They won't understand. There are evil, corrupt men out there that will use your gifts against you, the ones you loves and the world."

"But, daddy, I want to be Slam Bradley, like in the comic books, and beat up the bad guys."

"If the world needs you, you'll know. Until then, be the Clark Kent your mother and I raised, be proud of who you are. Clark Kent from..."

(scene flashes into Kent's adulthood)

"...SMALLVILLE." shouts Lois at Perry. "You want me to lug some farm boy around Lex Luthor's lab? Jimmy and I can do this without him, Perry."

The oafish, quiet Clark, the nerdy Jimmy and the independent Lois have the given relationships that we know.

Lex goes bat$hit and makes a deal to create advanced weaponry for Bruno Mannheim and his Intergang, while building on his fortunes.

We learn Lex's baldness correlates with his technology. Years ago, Dr. Gerard Shugel, claimed to have retrieved fragments from an alien space ship rumored to have crash landed in Smallville. Shugel grew ill and developed paraplegia. He hired his protege Luthor and, upon his death, Luthor inherited everything.

Luthor lost his hair through the same exposure but found that encasing the fragments in led was enough to cease radiation exposure.


Luthor and Manheim lay seige on Metropolis and it is up to Clark Kent to stop them. He journeys home to learn more about his past.


He meets up with an old friend/flame by the name of Lana Lang and, trusting her more than anyone else besides his parents, learns of his past alongside his closest friend.


Through visuals we learn of Krypton's fate. Dru-Zod is a megalomaniacal Kryptonian, in charge of the military forces on Krypton. He knew Jor-El, Superman's father, when Jor-El was an aspiring scientist. He attempted to take over Krypton, leading an army. He was sentenced to exile in the Phantom Zone, an invention of Jor-El, for life for his crimes.

We see that, as Superman (strength) is to Luthor (intellect), Zod (strength) is to Jor-El (intellect). As that goes, the roles of good verses evil are clearly reversed.

Clark grabs the blanket he was wrapped in, his father's robe, and becomes Superman.

He saves Lois; she falls for the cape; Jimmy gets some good pictures; Clark is "away in Kansas"; Mannheim is defeated; Luthor is aquitted and garners a higher profile within Metropolis for aiding in Mannheim's capture.

The end of the movie sees Braniac emerge and offers Luthor "power, wealth and knowledge, beyond anything you can imagine if you aid me in destruction of the Kryptonian.



END




THE PLOT OF SUPERMAN 2 (1980)



A partnership between Lex and Braniac, with the goal of destroying Superman, was formed. The two combined their genius to bring down the man of steel.

Braniac is obsessed with capturing the "relic", Kal-El, as he can tap into the depths of his brain and learn what the once-infant bore witness to, whether he is aware or not. In exchange for Lex's help, Braniac not only tells Lex about kryptonite and it's effects, but leads Lex into a life of wealth and admiration.

The 2 plot Metropolis' destruction whilst framing Superman. All the while, as the people loose faith in Superman, they begin to support Lex.

The people begin to see him as an alien and grow scared. Lex's popularity rises and he steps forward to abolish the Kryptonian.

By the final arc, Lois discovers, and airs, the truth (after, even she, believed otherwise) and Superman fights Braniac, barely beating him and dismantling his body.

Lex is arrested only to have the people rally in favor of setting him free as he was only doing what he believed was best for his city (to no use as he was still incarcerated).

Braniac's head is seen (unknown to anyone within the DCverse), computerized, across the computer's in what was once Lex's lab, but is now part of his estate.

Superman is once again held as a hero.



END




Director: Francis Ford Coppola



We're not in Kansas anymore...


Jonathan Kent

Robert Duvall
Age: 48
Coppola movie: Duvall stars in no less than 5 movies in the 70's that involve Coppola, the most famous of which is The Godfather.

Just as Coppola aged Brando in The Godfather, Duvall would spend the later part of the movie, upon Clark's return, aged. He spends Clark's childhood as the current 48 that he is in 1978.

An extraordinary actor, Duvall would rival any performance that can be compared to this. As 'Pa Kent, Duvall becomes the strength and heart that drives Clark Kent.




Martha Kent
Morgana King
Age: 48
Coppola movie: Godfather

Mama Corleone shifts gears into 'Ma Kent. Morgana has the obvious connection with Duvall and the 2 did well with one another that it seems natural to place her here. This no less odd then Forrest Gump and his Mama once having shared an onscreen relatioship too.





Lana Lang
Cybill Shepherd
Age: 28

The sultry actress has not actually worked under Cappola but has worked with his friend and fellow director, Scorsese, and, in the same movie, De Niro (Taxi Driver), a Coppala standout , who may or may not have good things to say about her. She is a wonderful, trusted actor and has a beautiful, soft air about her.





Holy Kryptonite, Batman...


Jor-El
G. D. Spradlin
Age: 58
Coppola movie: Apocalypse Now

Although he often played devious authority figures, Spradlin fits the character nicely. He has the stern look that would paint the face of a world's leading scientist. I almost went with him as Zodd but backed off as I felt the part needed name recognition (and significantly younger), where as the actual movie choosing the very high profiled actor, Marlon Brando (who was the most wacked out, arrogant actor of his generation).




Lara-El
Talia Shire
Age: 32
Coppola movie: Godfather

Shire is Coppola's sister and a great actor, starring, also, as Adrienne Balboa in Rocky. Cappola would. no doubt, utilize one of the best young talents in Hollywood, especially considering their relation.




General Zod
Dennis Hopper
Age: 42
Coppola movie: Apocalypse Now

Hopper is about as bad as bad gets. He would demolish the scenes he were in, and as Zod, be just as,if not more, memorable as Stamp.




Good morning, and welcome to the Daily Planet with Anchorwoman Lois Lane...


Perry White
George C Scott
Age: 51
Coppola movie: Patton

If, for even a nano-second, you aren't completely convinced that Scott would be the most hilarious Perry, rivaling, Simmins' J. Jonah Jameson, you need to get your head checked. If you are unfamiliar with Scott. Youtube "Patton speech."




Jimmy Olsen
Jackie Earle Haley
Age: 18

Again, not a Coppola alumni, the pimple-faced child star from The Bad News Bears would be spot on perfect as the wide-eyed 3rd wheel to the Lois-Clark dynamic duo.




Lois Lane
Carrie Fisher
Age: 22

Brian De Palma, another friend and fellow director of Coppola, screen shot Fisher and Spacek, for the role of Carrie, while Lucas SIMULTANEOUSLY shot for Star Wars. Fisher, hot off of Star Wars, would come highly recommended, one can assume, by his friend. Slightly younger than expected for Lane, it only adds to her brashness and talent. So young and already a go-get-'em kind of lady, going so far as to take charge of the farm boy and never backing down from a challenge.

More importantly, her young age is a great excuse for her 'take the bull by the horns' attitude which some would attribute to immaturity and overcompensation for being both very young and being a woman in a man's business (just ask Ron Burgundy)




It's a bad, bad world...



Bruno Mannheim
James Caan
Age: 38
Coppola movie: Godfather, Gardens of Stone

How does Caan not represent the ideal Bruno. As Sunny, a role he was so closely identified with, he was mistaken for a real life wiseguy.

"They called me a wiseguy. I won Italian of the Year twice in New York, and I'm not Italian.... I was denied in a country club once. Oh yeah, the guy sat in front of the board, and he says, 'No, no, he's a wiseguy. He's a made guy.'




Braniac
Christopher Walken
Age: 35
Coppola movie: The Dear Hunter
Admittedly, I was gunning for John Cazale in this role as Cazale has been noted by his peers as one of the most magnificent actors in his day. Cazale, though, died this same year (and in my Batman '89 recast, I played that card already "This will have taken place before his death") and Cazale died in March.

On to a strong choice for #2. Walken has, perhaps, a better look, one more fitting for the alien (not Superman, for the record, dodged that bullet faster than, well Superman, I guess). Braniac, one of the most menacing of Superman's adversaries would be taken to new levels under Walken.




Lex Luthor
Anthony Hopkins
Age: 41
Coppola movie: Bram Stoker's Dracula

Hopkin's attribute as an actor are indescribable. He is the best choice to play a lunatic egghead scientist in one movie only to glide effortlessly into the role of a megalomaniac.

It is important to note that, up to this point, Luthor is a mad scientist. It wasn't until this movie in 1978, did he become a money-driven suit and tie villain. It can be argued that, due to Gene Hackman's portrayal, Luthor was reimagined, post-crisis, into the Luthor we know.




Superman
William Hurt
Age: 28
Again, not in any Coppola movie, Hurt is my absolute choice for Superman. If you're thinking he looks nothing like Reeve, I want you to understand that Reeve looks only a little like Superman (did). (with a dye job/wig)

Hurt has that corn-fed farmer's chin and beefy physique that was once the only way people saw Superman. He is the ideal age and is the best of the bunch, to the point that I am very surprised he never tried for the part.

***Reeve's first role in a Hollywood film was a small part as a submarine officer in the 1978 naval disaster movie Gray Lady Down. He then acted in the play My Life at the Circle Repertory Company with friend William Hurt

Look at the pictures and tell me what you think.

***These pics are him as 30-33 and a recent one








****THE IDEA BEHIND A NEW DIRECTOR AND CAST IS THAT I WOULD BE AFRAID OF THE ACTORS AND DIRECTOR WOULD JUST GET BORED AND DELIVER THE LINES WITHOUT THE SAME PASSION THEY ONCE HAD. THAT IS WHY I THINK LotR WORKED SO WELL, EVEN THOUGH I NEVER WATCHED THEM, BECAUSE THEY SHOT IT BACK TO BACK

...that, and, just as it is in the comics, the characters don't age, no matter the span of 10 years.




About James Cameron




James Cameron was credited with single-handedly resurrecting a once-dead science fiction genre, thanks to the timeless success of "The Terminator" and "Aliens".

Cameron has a penchant for aliens of the deep and outer space.

In addition to his remarkable achievements outside of film, Cameron was inarguably one of the most proficient, admired and, above all, successful directors in Hollywood history.

After boasting, as a nine-year-old, that he could make a better movie than "King Kong vs. Godzilla".

It was following a viewing of George Lucas' "Star Wars" that Cameron decided he should be making his own epics. He left his job to move to Los Angeles and start working in the entertainment industry.

Cameron's films have recurring themes and subtexts. These include the conflicts between humanity and technology (the time travel of Superman 3) and strong female characters (Lois and the ladies of Superman 4), and a strong romance subplot (the reason things go down the way they do in SM3, and the lead female of SM4 shifts her ideology as a result of love lost). In almost all films, the main characters usually get into dramatic crisis situations with significant threats to their own life or even the threat of an impending apocalypse/Apokolips



THE PLOT OF CAMERON'S SUPERMAN 3 (the reboot sequel, or the requel) (1985, rather than 1983, to same time given between Hulk and it's requel, Incredible)




Degaton, a man belonging to an alternate Earth, invents a time disc, which he uses to jump between realities. The Degaton is employed by an evil Kryptonian who calls himself The Ultra. Having left his Earth in ruins, there is nothing else to plunder and instead of moving on to other inhabited planets, Ultra tasks Degaton to find an alternate Earth, one where the Earthling he has aggressively fallen for, Lois Lane, lives.

The Degaton enters the familiar DCverse, and locates Lois Lane. Upon little research, He leaves and returns with Ultraman. Lex Luthor, of the multiverse, charges the disk, allowing himself to jump as well, hoping to stop his enemy.

In this reality, Luthor, has devoted himself to stopping the Krpytonian, in order to salvage what is left of his planet.

The irony is that Luthor, although still obsessed with the Kryptonian, finds himself on the side of good, opposing the evil alien.

In the end, good-Luthor sacrifices himself to send Ultra and Degaton into the BC era. When they arrive, Ultra goes mad and uses his powers uncontrollably, and, as the camera spans out, the result is, seemingly, the element that causes the dinosaurs to become extinct.



THE PLOT OF CAMERON'S SUPERMAN 4 (1987)



Superman pretty much has crime in check, is looked upon with awe, respect and gratitude by America and spends most of his time a the dorky Clark Kent. After all, wouldn't you be uncomfortable if you were so strong you could break almost anything without even trying.

That's what makes him such a spaz. It's how he really is; uncomfortably hiding his powers every second of every day makes for a fidget.

Luthor is out of jail, having spent only a few years, maybe 3, defining the timeline Superman has been about, due to his standing as a great citizen of Metropolis and all of his new money. He has successfully become the Luthor we know today. His part, thou, is small and in the background to the greater story.

Orphans have gone missing at an alarming rate in Metropolis. Detectice Dan Turpin and reporter Lois Lane discover Granny Goodness, an alien resembling a human.

Superman must journey to Apokolips and battle the Female Furies and Kalibak before getting his hands on his most powerful foe yet, Darkseid, Lord of Apokolips.

He needs assistance from Barda, who has defected after the murder of her loved one, Scott Free.

Barda is given a meaty back story.

Darkseid's goal is to eliminate all free will from the universe and reshape it into his own image. To this end, he seeks to unravel the mysterious Anti-Life Equation, which gives its user complete control over the thoughts and emotions of all living beings in the universe. He had a special interest in Earth, as he believed humans possess collectively within their minds most, if not all, fragments of the Anti-Life Equation. Darkseid intended to probe the minds of every human in order to piece together the Equation.

Darkseid is defeated when Superman and Barda rally Apokolips' people, all of which are slaves, against Darkseid, Kalibak and the Furies in a revolution that forces the lord to flee with Granny, leaving the Furies and Kalibak to succumb to the overwhelming volatile actions of the enslaved.

Barda says that Orion of New Genesis will now control the planet. She will become his number 1 as Kalibak has with Darkseid. Orion's reign will bring peace to her planet but they will be ready for Darkseid's vengeful return.

Orion enters what was Darkseid's fortress. When Superman questions why he was not there to help defeat Darkseid if his planet was warring Apokolips, he says that, "Although I am a dog of war, I must control my rage, and not take in the darkness that overwhelms my father and brother. Even though I am genetically my father's kin, I am no more his than are you. This victory is to be awarded to the enslaved populace. Now, among the proud, I will lead."

Superman says he will be there when they need him.


END



Director: James Cameron


Reporting to you live...


Lois Lane
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
Age: 27
Cameron movie: Abyss
Better known, by me at least, from her role in Scarface, Mastrantonio can cown the role of the strong willed media sensation, Lois Lane. She was one of 2 that I looked at, using the other, more appropriately, later. Her physical appearance is almost perfect, too.




Perry White
George Peppard
Age: 57
Cameron movie: Battle Beyond the Stars (sfx directed by Cameron)
Better known, by me at least, from his role in A-Team, the cigar-chomping boss of the coolest group of mavericks ever, Peppard, though only a very small, supporting role in these 2 movies would be so memorable.




Jimmy Olsen
Michael J Fox
Age: 24
Despite not ever working with Cameron, there is no way on God's green Earth that the baby-faced MJF, wouldn't be the best choice as the younger-than-24 pal of Superman, despite, again, only a small supporting role in both films.




Infinite Earths...


Lex Luthor
Lance Henriksen
Age: 45
Cameron movie: Piranha II: The Spawning, The Terminator, Aliens, Expedition: Bismarck
Henricksen doesn't get to play the evil, familiar Luthor (in SM3), instead he is challeged to bring the 1st depiction of a good guy Luthor. As mentioned, the only thing making Lex good, is his opposition of The Ultra. In a sence, by doing this, it helps define the prior 2 movies characterization of Lex being a man that only defies Superman out of fear, curiosity and jealousy. He's a good guy, heroic till the end, but a victim of circumstance. SM4 sees him enter his new faze as the meglomaniac we hold so close to our hearts, and far from our wallets.

This Luthor (SM3) has his hair, having never overexposed himself to the radiation of Kryptonite. The Earth 1 Luthor never has screen time.
SM4... Bald is back.




The Degaton
Michael Biehn
Age: 29
Cameron movie: The Terminator, Aliens, Abyss, Terminator 2
With, at least, for movies with Cameron, room was to made for Biehn. The Degaton, as he is called, was the natural choice given his youth (making him an un-candidate for Turpin) and the screen time.




The Ultra
Steven Bauer
Age: 29
Never with Cameron but recommended by Scarface alumni, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Baur, who's accent is fake (he's an actor), looks shockingly similar to The Ultra.

The Ultra, as the movie goes, is a different Kryptonian. Zod (all in story mode; no flashbacks), escaped the Phantom Zone, ambushing Jor-El, and sent his clone/son/protege rocketing to Earth, disposing of the infant/toddler Kal-El, dooming him to death as well. Zod sent The Ultra with imagery of himself, just as Jor-El has with Kal-El, explaining his wishes for The Ultra to demolish Earth as it is his right to do so.




The arch-typical hardened detective...


Dan Turpin
Charles Napier
Age: 51
Cameron movie: 1st Blood Part 2
He was always known for his portrayals of square-jawed tough guys and military types. It's only natural that he plat Turpin.




Alf, Mork, Alien and even Vader, can't compare...



Granny Goodness
Anne Ramsey
Age: 58
Despite not ever working with Cameron, there is no way on God's green Earth that the rugged- faced angry mama, most famous for her roles as Mama Fratelli in The Goonies and as Mrs. Lift, Danny DeVito's mother, in Throw Momma from the Train isn't the best live action Granny ever...ever.




Lashina
Jenette Goldstein
Age: 27
Cameron movie: Aliens, T2, Titanic

Lashina is raised a warrior in Granny Goodness' orphanage. When Barda rebels, Lashina was given leadership over the Female Furies by Darkseid, much to Bernadeth's annoyance.

Lashina has superstrength, durability, and speed. She uses steel whips that she can charge with electricity.

For the Furies, I needed some tough, fist-throwing ladies. Goldstein, a Cameron favorite, was perfect for the leader of the trio.




Bernadeth
Jamie Lee Curtis
Age: 29
Cameron movie: True Lies
She was initially known as a "scream queen" because of her starring roles in several horror films early in her career, such as Halloween, The Fog, Prom Night, and Terror Train. It's only befitting that the supremely shaped Curtis co-star as one of the deadliest women in the world as part of the Female Furies of Apokolips.

2nd-in-command of the Female Furies, Bernadeth wields a "fahren-knife" that burns her victims from the inside. She was one of the first Furies to be recruited, Bernadeth hated being led by others. When Barda, Bernadeth saw this as a way to gain leadership herself. However, Darkseid rewarded Lashina with leadership of the Furies.




Gilotina
Linda Hamilton
Age: 29
Cameron movie: The Terminator, Terminator 2

Hamilton, with her sexy, but rough and tough exterior was all and all perfect for this role. She was the othe possible Lane I alluded to earlier, however she fits much better here, I decided.




Kalibak
Sly Stallone
Age: 41
Cameron movie: 1st Blood Part 2
1st, let me set the stage by saying I am a huge Stallone fan. 2nd, thankfully edged out of the part as the real '78 Superman (as mentioned earlier), Stallone is a much better fit as the son of Darkseid, Kalibak. The short, stocky, muscular build of Sly is perfect for the troll-like warrior. The deep voice only adds to the menace.




Barda
Sigourney Weaver
Age: 38
Cameron movie: Aliens, Avatar, Avatar 2
Who better than Ellen Ripley, an Alien a$$-kicker to be an alien a$$-kicker that happens to also be an alien, herself? Weaver has the right over-bearing demeanor to embody Barda.




Darkseid
Dolph Lundgren
Age: 30
Not associated with Cameron, but a close personal friend To Stallone, who would come highly recommended by him. It's not a hard sell given his height, frame and voice, not to mention he was at the height of popularity as an action star and would give anyone in a cape and blue leggings a run for their money.




Orion
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Age: 40
Cameron movie: The Terminator, T2, True Lies
Oh shutup, I don't want to hear about, well anything you have to say about how awful an idea this is and how he should never be allowed near any cbm, ever. It's less screen time than his Expendables 1 air time. Schwarzenegger and Cameron are in 3 movies together and the man was a beast physically. I, truthfully, wouldn't have even considered having Orion, merely mentioning him was good enough but considering how popular Schwarzenegger was and how Cameron and he collaborated, resulting in success, it seemed logical, and that's what these Director fancasts have all been about; logic. Let it be said here 1st, thank God he didn't get cast as Superman.




Oh, and then there's that guy with the red underwear...



Superman
Chris Noth
Age: 27
No affiliation with Cameron, Noth has the thickness I find appropriate for Supes. He has the dark physical look ideal for Supes and can carry the charismatic side of the cape convincingly. I have no doubt that he can play the dweeb that is Clark with equal devotion and realism. I am quite proud of this pick as choosing the right men to play this role is hard in and of itself, evidenced by the strain to find the real actor (Reeves) to play the part, nevermind fancasting someone besides the Reeves, who nailed it flawlessly.

He has the look SM's creators were aiming to ink.

I was considering Michael Paré but his affiliates with The Greatest American Hero seemed like a red flag.







Thank You for taking the time to read through.


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ILoveStargirl - 8/11/2012, 5:54 PM
In Keanu Reeves words: Whoa!
AmazingFantasy - 8/11/2012, 7:12 PM
HOLY FAN CAST BATMAN.'

This needs to go on main, amazing dude. Must have taken so much time.

FlixMentallo21 - 8/11/2012, 9:35 PM
And ironically, Noth voiced a good version of Lex Luthor in Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths.
ager - 8/11/2012, 9:46 PM
ILoveStargirl@

=) hope you enjoyed. you've been trying to squeeze that '&8 recast from me for a bit. =)
ager - 8/11/2012, 9:47 PM
CaptainSpunk@

Wow, thanks that means a lot. & ya, it took a very long time. I'm very happy with the outcome tho
ager - 8/11/2012, 9:50 PM
FriendlyJoShFest@

Sure, there's cut/paste... in the section explaining who Reeve beat out n in the description of the directors. outside of that, I take a known story from the comics and add and twist to my pleasure.

Many fancasts, in descriptions ARE cut/paste.

Thanks for agreeing about Hurt. The rest?
ager - 8/11/2012, 9:51 PM
FlixMentallo21@

Yup, not the reson I chose him, almost the reason I didn't tho. How's the cast(s) as a whole?
ager - 8/11/2012, 9:52 PM
CaptainSpunk@

Oh and i doubt itll make its way to main. needs a whole lotta thumbs up for that
DDD - 8/11/2012, 10:37 PM
HOLY CRAP BATMAN!

AGER@ you've outdone yourself!

This is actually an editorial wrapped in a FANCAST.....or
I should say FANCASTS!

NOTH looks so much like CLARK KENT OF THE COMICS it ain't
funny!

This is badass!

I'm voting it for main!
DDD - 8/11/2012, 10:50 PM
AGER@,
This is so excellent I'm giving it my 5 skulls rating!

HIGHEST RATING!

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RoadDogXXIV - 8/11/2012, 11:21 PM
This article is humongous, so I'll give it my all.

- Dennis Hopper doesn't really have a voice for Zod. I think Jeremy Irons (he'd be well into his 30's in the 70's) might've been more fit, but hey, just throwing in my two cents.
- Never thought I'd picture JEH as Jimmy Olsen. I may have to rent Bad News Bears!
- Princess Leia as Lois Lane? That COULD work! Margot Kidder still owned that role, though.
- Anthony Hopkins may have to drop the British accent to play Lex Luthor. Other than that, very inspired.

The rest of the picks are good. Hey, when you get around to it, visit my deviantART page @ http://marvelcomics1985.deviantart.com/
STARKILLER21 - 8/12/2012, 1:29 AM
This is AWESOME, keep it up ager, this is really good you must have put A LOT of time on this.
@ager, again this is great, I always thought WHAT IF, directors such as Francis Ford Coppola, James Cameron, Ridely Scott (sorry if I spell his name wrong) made the 1978 film of Superman.
I liked how you added actors or actreses who have been casted in the directors films.

Again good job, (giving you 2 thumbs up).
STARKILLER21 - 8/12/2012, 1:31 AM
Also I am surprised that you didn't add Al Pacino as General Zod, which would have cool but the guy is 5ft8 which would have been weird if you did cast Pacino as Zod.
Axelbratoski - 8/12/2012, 4:58 AM
I was expecting Spielberg to direct, but Coppola is a good choice anyways. Great cast!
Kakarot - 8/12/2012, 7:15 AM
I love this just as much as the Batman one. Carrie Fisher, Hopkins, and Walken are all perfect. Hopper for Zod! YES! A young Jackie Earle Hayley is a surprising but good choice. The really great pick here is my favorite actor of all time Michael J Fox as Jimmy! Both Superman picks are perfect. Do really need to comment further? I love it all.
ager - 8/12/2012, 7:19 AM
DDD@

whoa, Thank you SO much. Im so glad to see those skulls, never smiled so hard for a skull before.

THAN YOU
ager - 8/12/2012, 7:25 AM
RoadDogXXIV@

Your right. Irons wouldve been great. Maybe too close to the Zod we know from the film and I didnt want that. I wanted to erase the films from my thoughts, as hard as that is, as much as possible. Stamp, Kidder and Reeve were so amazing I was looking to create something different, or as different as possible. That, and, I was trying to use as many Coppola alumni as I could.

Hopkins, I think, could knock the accent. The man is incredible.

Thanks for the compliments, the time and the link. I'll be looking at that shortly

ager - 8/12/2012, 7:29 AM
STARKILLER21@

Thanks you so much. I DID put a large amount of care into this one and I'm glad its noticeable. Its a very touchy thing, replacing the real cast.

I was looking to use Pacino for sure, as Zod, too. His voice was the reason. His size, like you said, was why I didn't. Then, I actually had him locked as Bruno and changed that to the less-in-you-face James Caan, which I thought was much better as Pacino eats up scenes like candy and Caan blends.

thank you
ager - 8/12/2012, 7:33 AM
Kakarot@

Wow, thank you for the praise. I'm so happy everyone's loving this.

Cameron always has that one one cornball character and, even though, MJF as Olsen isnt around a while, he's the goofball.

So glad people arent chastising my SM picks, too
calin88 - 8/13/2012, 4:53 AM
this is a great article! congrats, very nice read and ideas
ager - 8/13/2012, 3:55 PM
calin88@

thank you very much glad u enjoyed

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