Where are Sony taking their SPIDER-MAN Cinematic Universe?

With the arrival of Sony's trailer for TASM2, it seems Sony are serious about the future of their Spider-Man Cinematic Universe. Hit the jump to see where we're heading!

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By DEVLIN712 - 12/10/2013
After 28 years of owning the rights to Spider-Man it looks like Sony are finally kick starting their Spider-Man Cinematic Universe. Where will it go, what's going to happen? I'll get to that, first though, lets get a little back-story going!

Prologue


Way back when the A-Team was still on TV and Back to the Future was still only a toddler Sony bought up one of films most lucrative rights; One of the most iconic comic book characters in history and loved by fanboys and new comers alike, Sony's swoop in 1985 might have been one of their smartest moves in years.



Then, in 2002, Sony struck gold with Sam Rami's first Spider-Man film. Fans loved it and a successful trilogy followed (regardless of falling flat near the end). But while Sony were reaping the rewards of the trilogy, Marvel Studios were slowly but surely building something epic, the Comic Book Cinematic Universe, and so the battle began. Sony needed something quick and so came The Amazing Spider-Man, a fair-ish attempt at a CBM, being followed by 2014's sequel.

And that brings us up to...


Now


In 6 months time The Amazing Spider-Man: Rise of Electro will give us a better picture of what's to come in Spidey's future but right now one thing is agreeable, the Sinister Six are on their way. Marvel have Thanos, Fox have Apocalypse and Sony, well, Sony have the Sinister Six (slightly anti-climactic).
But don't go thinking the Sinister Six are a push over! They aren't universe destroyers or race removers but they can pack a punch. They even proved to hot to handle for Peter in a certain universe, the Ultimate universe...

The Death of Peter Parker?


Last year Peter Parker's run as Spider-Man in Marvel's Ultimate universe came to an end at the hands of the Sinister Six. The Amazing Spider-Man is extremely similar to Ultimate Spider-Man in more ways than one.

  • Peter is more aggressive

  • Suit Designs

  • Andrew Garfield shares character traits with Ultimate Peter rather than 616 Peter

  • Villain's origins

  • This along side the fact that Andrew Garfield has said that he has no involvement in The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (After the rumored Sinister 6 in the third installment) SOURCE. Are Sony preparing to have Peter make the Ultimate sacrifice in The Amazing Spider-Man 3? Peter's mantle was later taken up by the Hispanic New Yorker Miles Morales. Donald Glover publicly appealed to Sony to have Miles lead The Amazing Spider-Man, are Sony listening?




    Journey Through The Multiverse?


    You probably won't be surprised to hear that Miles isn't the only other alternate to Peter Parker. Over the years Marvel have brought us various One Shots featuring the likes of 2099 Spider-Man and Noir Spider-Man. Could the science based roots of The Amazing Spider-Man end up tearing the barriers between universes down and give us a sci-fi Spidey?
    Future web head, AKA Miguel O'Hara, is a geneticist living in New York in, you guessed it, 2099! (More info on his origin HERE) O'Hara even has future versions of fan favorite villains such as a female Doc Ock, a terrifying Green Goblin and Venom.




    What About Looking Closer To Home?


    But wait! There's more! You didn't think that was all the Spider-Men about did you? These two don't even require Peter to die... (Well, sort of).
    Who are they you ask? Peter Parker's imperfect clones, Kaine and Ben!
    Back in the 90s Marvel was on a run of pumping out new Spider-People. We had Spider-Woman, 2099 Spider-Man and then came Kaine, the first failed attempt at cloning Peter Parker. (More info HERE)
    Soon followed Ben Reilly, aka The Scarlet Spider. After Kaine had failed Ben was the second attempt, Spoiler Alert: He failed too. (More info HERE)
    Using OsCorp's fascination with Peter as an excuse to clone him could easily bring in yet another branch for Sony to take.

    But there is one more, one some may even say is... Superior?


    Superiority?


    The final path to travel would be Marvel's most recent (and controversial) story line. In this a dying Doc Ock traps Peter and switches the two's conciseness, leaving Otto Octavius as the man behind the mask.
    If it works, everything's fine. If not the old comic book ret-con can have Peter back for outing number 5.




    Finishing Off


    At the end of the day, take what you will from this editorial, it's nothing more than a fan who loves to fantasize. Sony seem to have finally gotten a grip on their Cinematic Universe and with no shortage of comic book movies in the next 5 years, let's just relax. At least we know one thing, it will definitely be Amazing.
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    crushercreel23 - 12/10/2013, 3:58 PM
    darkknight2149 - 12/10/2013, 4:00 PM
    My top 5 Amazing Spiderman Spin-Offs:
    1.Tie between "Venom" "Agent Venom" and "Anti-Venom"
    2.Spider Woman
    3.Black Cat
    4.Spiderman 2099
    5.Arachne

    They could also do Alpha Bigtime, Maximum Carnage, Spider-girl, Superior Spiderman, Miles Morales, Scarlet Spider, Silver Sable, Fire Star (unless Fox owns her), Steel Spider, Anya Corazon, and a few others. I really don't want to see strait up villain films. Who wants to see Green Goblin: the movie, Alistair Smythe: The Movie, The Lizard: the movie, Rhino: The Movie or Electro: the movie? I don't. As far as exceptions go, Kraven the Hunter might work, especially if they play him as an anti-hero. Morbius: The Living Vampire could also hold his own movie. Then there's Maximum Carnage. But other than that please don't release strait up villain films. Venom and Black Cat are more antihero than villain.
    NovaCorpsFan - 12/10/2013, 4:00 PM
    I'd love to see them go into Spidey 2099. I love that character.
    BANE5000 - 12/10/2013, 4:07 PM
    No Miles, keep it Peter
    cipher - 12/10/2013, 4:13 PM
    Yeah, 2099's good stuff.
    cipher - 12/10/2013, 4:15 PM
    I want a clone. Wouldn't it be nice if we all had a few clones running around? The bastards wouldn't be able to produce a perfect replicate of me, but, hey.. have at it.
    cipher - 12/10/2013, 4:19 PM
    On second thought.. they'll probably do something weird. Like, ah.. I dunno.. make it a woman, or somethin'.
    cipher - 12/10/2013, 4:20 PM
    Hahahahaha, good question.
    Omarvls - 12/10/2013, 4:20 PM
    I don't know what has happened to me when it comes to Spider Man movies I've lost so much interest
    maybe because of what Marvel and DC/WB are bringing that I see this as inferior
    TheFox - 12/10/2013, 4:25 PM
    Or, you know, it's always possible that they're just telling their own Spider-Man stories without feeling the need to key off of established comic books storylines, the way Marvel and Fox have.

    Crazy, I know.

    Whatever happened with just being content to see Spider-Man on the big screen at all? Does it all have to play into some grand, long-term multi-film scheme to keep our attention these days?

    Just a thought.

    Z
    PurpleHelmetWarrior - 12/10/2013, 4:26 PM
    Hopefully taking it away from TASM 1 quality...
    jp688 - 12/10/2013, 4:27 PM
    Word to TheFox - love your comments, mirror mine exactly!
    Lhornbk - 12/10/2013, 4:29 PM
    Okay, from reading that other article, it sounds like they signed Garfield to a 3-picture deal, then decided to do at least 4 films. So it is entirely possible that they will just sign him to do that 4th film at some point.
    Polygame - 12/10/2013, 4:31 PM
    Complicating stuff too much for the not so SAVVY customers won't pay off. no studio can afford to live only on hardcore fans money. I don't think anything without Peter Parker will ever happen.
    JJJameson - 12/10/2013, 4:36 PM
    SlaveMasterFlexXx

    I think news outlets are interpreting it wrong and overthinking a line that Andrew Garfield said about a potential film that is five years away from now.

    He is under contract for three Spider-Man films. Marc Webb has thought out his Spider-Man films as a trilogy. I'm sure that if they find the right story and the audiences want them to comeback, if Sony lure them back they'll certainly give another go, but it's too much down the road to even consider anything. He is basically saying he is not the one that makes that call.

    Also, I don't think Andrew never said that he doesn't want to play Spider-Man. Andrew Garfield in this same interview said that the pitch Orci and Kurtzman made to him at some lunch in LA brought him to tears. He has said and showed how much he loves Spider-Man and play the character time and time again.

    I'm sure that if there's a good paycheck and a good story, he most certainly will. He will be 35 years old in 2018, he could easily pass by a 25-30 years old Spidey by then.

    I want him playing the character for the long haul as well, but I think that when the time comes, they'll recast. And I'll be fine with that. I still hope Garfield will feature a sixtology of Spider-Man films though, he was literally born for the role.
    CaptainAmerica31 - 12/10/2013, 4:39 PM
    I feel like they are just going to make slim offs for villains. No miles or superior. The reason being, those characters are a major risk financially. Sony can't afford to have a blunder, they need to keep the profits going. Making spiderman Hispanic/black can really screw things up and a lot of people will be turned off( so I think). People won't react well to a change under the mask. At least I don't think they will. Andrew Garfield saying he isn't involved in TASM4 can be taken in many ways. Either, like you've suggested, Peter dies or he just means he hasn't negotiated a contract for the fourth film. I mean it's likely, considering it's in 5 years. However, they could do a couple of Miles spidey movies for 7 years and wait 5 years to reintroduce Peter in a reboot which would be a really good way to keep the rights. People freaked out when it was rebooted after five years. So the way for them to keep the rights is too use miles as a filler till his time is up so they can do another Reboot. It's smart really
    superherofan21 - 12/10/2013, 4:42 PM
    I think the video game "Shattered Dimensions" could make for a good movie. And hey, it'd be a good way to bring back Tobey Maguire's Spidey to give his character some closure. Fans would go crazy seeing him and Garfield share the screen in full costume. Throw in 2099 and Noir Spider-Men, and you're golden.
    CaptainAmerica31 - 12/10/2013, 4:43 PM
    Garfield said he loved playing spiderman and he loves the character. He is a big spiderman fan. But I think he said something awhile back about how, although he loves playing it, he wants to see someone else play it. He can't take the pressure or something. Guys talented and he is getting quality roles from directors like scorsases( idk how to spell it)
    CapFan79 - 12/10/2013, 4:45 PM
    I would not watch a miles morales Spider-Man. Peter is the only Spider-Man! I don't care if peter is black or whatever, just can't see anyone else as Spidey.
    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 4:46 PM
    (2012) The Amazing Spider-Man (Lizard)

    (2014) The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (*Harry* Green Goblin, Rhino, Electro)

    (2016) The Amazing Spider-Man 3 (Doc Ock, Vulture, Rhino, Shocker, Scorpion, Sandman)

    (2017) Black Cat

    (2017) Cloak and Dager

    (2018) The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (Kraven, Chameleon, Mysterio)

    (2018) Venom

    (2019) Silver Sable

    (2019) Enforcers

    *If Garfield renews his contract after 4th film*

    (2020) The Amazing Spider-Man 5 (Venom, Tombstone & Hammerhead)

    (2022) The Amazing Spider-Man 6 (Black Cat, Cloak and Dager, Spider-Man and Venom vs Carnage)

    (2022) Spider-Man 2099
    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 4:50 PM
    Do you guys even think Garfield would be willing to extend his contract?

    And just how many spin-off movies do you all believe we'll get? What heroes and villains will be worthy enough? I want your opinions...

    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 4:55 PM
    I'm also interested in seeing Pete possibly becoming Man-Spider at some point! I highly doubt they'd do it but it would be a great reason to have Kraven introduced it would totally freak people out! lol

    ZUKITIVEL - 12/10/2013, 4:56 PM
    All this talk about alternate universes is making me miss home
    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 4:57 PM
    @SlaveMasterFlexXx

    Great feedback! It would be sick seeing Daredevil go against this crew! He'll need all the baddies he can get for his show!

    And hmmm, Green Goblin eh? You think Norman will get a spin-off huh?
    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 4:58 PM
    *about the action figure* Word? lol All I had was a Hobgoblin and Venom figure! All baddies and no one in site to kick their a**! lol
    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 4:59 PM
    @SlaveMasterFlexXx

    Ohhhh, ok I gotcha! Still great feedback though bro! Guess we'll have to see how it all plays out!
    NovaCorpsFan - 12/10/2013, 5:17 PM
    Cloak and Dagger are mutants. Do you guys know these characters at all?
    riddlemethis09 - 12/10/2013, 5:18 PM
    How I could see things playing out:

    The Amazing Spider-Man Trilogy with the overarching plot as-
    The Sinister Six that in effect causes the production of Venom from Oscorp.
    This leads into...
    The Web of Spider-Man Trilogy with the overarching plot as-
    The Symbiotes/Venom/Carnage causing the duplication of Peter's DNA.
    This leads into...
    The Spectacular Spider-Man trilogy with the overarching plot as-
    The Clone Saga/Jackal/Scarlet Spider/Ben Reilly/Kaine.
    Include spin-offs in the form of Spider-Woman, Ultimate Spider-Man, Superior Spider-Man, and Venom (Flash Thompson).

    Each trilogy is not a reboot but is instead a continuation of the previous story with changes to actors/directors/writers as necessary.
    AdamMichaels - 12/10/2013, 5:36 PM
    The Amazing Spider-Man wasn't a "fair-ish" attempt at a CBM, it alone blew Raimi's trilogy away. Hated nearly everything about those 3 movies.
    TheBlackNerd - 12/10/2013, 5:36 PM
    NovaCorpsFan - 12/10/2013, 5:17 PM
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    Cloak and Dagger are mutants. Do you guys know these characters at all?

    Oh sh**! I never knew that. The only book I read starring both of those characters was Maximum Carnage. I'm not too fond of their genetic background, but sadly I'm only fond of how long they were together a somewhat of a brother and sister relationship even though they weren't actually related...lol I was just impressed with their strong relationship and how far they were wiling to go towards bringing Carnage and the gang down.

    But yeah, I appreciate your correction bro!
    MBZ1993 - 12/10/2013, 6:15 PM
    if their doin the spideyverse then they got to do the clone saga then spinoffs, a ben reily spinoff, or maybe a kaine spinoff which would be epic since the comic is awesome as hell
    CaptainAmerica31 - 12/10/2013, 6:52 PM
    Well The Venom movie has a fantastic director attached to it so we'll see how it plays out. Trank is phenomenal, I actually would love to see him direct the spider-man films
    GliderMan - 12/10/2013, 7:22 PM
    NO NO NO I SWEAR TO [frick]ING GOD IF THEY KILL OF PETER PARKER AND BRING IN MORALES I'M GOING TO [frick]ING SCREAM. NO SIR WE LIKE OUR PETER. THERE IS FIFTY YEARS WORTH OF STORIES TO BASE OFF HIM BEFORE KILLING HIM GO TO THAT [frick]ING UGH.
    CorndogBurglar - 12/10/2013, 7:42 PM
    B&Y

    Your question raises quite the conundrum. On the one hand, you have your penis. On the other hand, its a cloned penis and not technically YOUR penis.

    What about this: What if you went back in time and jerked off your past self? Would that be gay? In that instance, its not a cline...it actually is you.

    After doing some extensive research on Clonal / Interdimensional Masturbation, I can only come to the conclusion that both would in fact be gay. In both instances, the only physical pleasure you can possibly gain from such an act would be the feeling of another penis in your hand. You would not feel the "payoff" of the climax. Your other self would, but not you personally. So it is my oponion that both instances are gay as hell.

    I hope I was able to help with your inquiry.
    NovaCorpsFan - 12/10/2013, 7:49 PM
    BlackNerd

    No problem, man.

    SlaveMaster

    Never, but they're mutants so Fox likely has their rights.
    thunderpun573 - 12/10/2013, 8:55 PM
    I think cloak and dagger are probably in the grey area that Scarlett witch and quicksilver were in.
    MightyZeus - 12/11/2013, 3:50 AM
    Great editorial. I can see most of those characters you've pointed out in the article being introduced. I think personally it would be too soon to bring in Miles as a lead character in a stand alone Spider-man film. I doubt he'll replace Peter Parker in TASM 4. I still think that TASM 4 will have Peter Parker as it would be too soon to kill him off or banish the character from the films.

    I'd really be interested in seeing a Spider man 2099 film and a Venom spin off which would be amazing. Also a Maximum Carnage film would be dark, serious and gritty which is something i'd go for.

    GliderMan - 12/11/2013, 4:47 AM
    @fangz Idk, Venom and Silver Sable movies could be really cool.
    BaronZemo - 12/11/2013, 5:04 AM
    Don't do superior or Miles
    BenjiWest - 12/11/2013, 6:04 AM
    @fangz - I really liked the Ultimate Clone Saga as well. It offered something rather unique spin I wouldn't mind seeing explored in a Spiderman film. Multiple, different types of Peter clones, genetically change. This could also be a way to use Venom or Carnage, in place of the suit it could be an "anti Spiderman", a disfigured genetically enhanced clone of Peter. The Ultimate Clone Saga would also give the film series the chance to bring back someone like the eventual deceased Gwen Stacy or her father. But I don't think we would see this until well into the series, if they were to ever attempt it.

    And why the hell hasn't Marvel Animation adapted any of the Ultimate Spiderman stuff? Huge missed opportunity, but I suppose they just want to keep all the promotion they can to the "in house" guys, i.e. Avengers....
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