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The Flash Unfinished Game Footage

Over on YouTube, user "misterbigmouth" has posted a video claiming to be "early game footage from the cancelled Flash video game...
"When our publisher Brash folded we were about 6 months into full production with about a year still to go on the game so please excuse the roughness of how it looks at this stage.

A lot of the core elements were just starting to surface and we were all really saddened that the game couldn't be saved. It was showing much potential."



While there is no way to confirm whether the footage is real or whether it may have had anything to do with the rumoured The Flash movie, which could mean that DC may still have big plans for the character at least in the world of video games!
8 Yes
1 No
joshw24
10/8/2009
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124 Comments

woah! Sick :)
CaptainAmerica - 10/8/2009, 1:18 PM
Hell yeah! Great find, Joshw24. I SOOOO want a demo of that game. All it needs is Web of Shadows' graphics with the entire rogues gallery.
BryEL - 10/8/2009, 1:20 PM
sweet it looks alot like the spiderman games
thwhtGuardian - 10/8/2009, 1:22 PM
I'd have bought this! Looks good as is, to me.
necrosage2005 - 10/8/2009, 1:24 PM
Dude this looks SIIIIIICCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They can def make a movie if the game looks this good...

Where Phineas....?!?!?
thegreek - 10/8/2009, 1:29 PM
would have been great. the flash movie will go the same way as this game.
superdog - 10/8/2009, 1:34 PM
cool
MarkV - 10/8/2009, 1:38 PM
looks like some cool gameplay there - obviously unfinished graphics, but I think they had the right idea.

Too bad the Flash just isn't that great of a character to market - especially with no movie out there. I must admit though - he's my fav. in Mortal Kombat VS. DC.
Keven - 10/8/2009, 1:38 PM
BTW, can't wait for an Arkham sequel.
MarkV - 10/8/2009, 1:38 PM
JOSH @ You are on a roll buddy!! ; )

Damn, ive always wanted to get THE FLASH as a video game, think there was one on PS1 but not to sure???

This looks [frick]ing sweet man!
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 1:46 PM
Hey wait a minute.....

If this game is cancelled it aint coming out????

ARGGGHHHHHH!!!!! ; D
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 1:49 PM
Looks like the upcoming game, "DC Universe Online"...are you sure it isn't a demo of it?
davidcub - 10/8/2009, 1:49 PM
NOT FAIR! I would like to see and try a video game of The Flash.
Torian Brown - 10/8/2009, 1:53 PM
This game would be cool. It reminds me of Superman Returns.
Watchtower31 - 10/8/2009, 1:56 PM
I don't think it's dc online, because you can't play as actual dc characters in that game. Besides it looks like it was meant for xbox play, due to the different action symbols.
thwhtGuardian - 10/8/2009, 2:02 PM
LEE: lol! the game still might be picked up by another developer or publisher - maybe DC will save it for the when the movie comes out though - if a Flash movie is only a few years away it might make more sense for them to hold on and make it a movie tie-in! Hell, maybe with the extra time it'll end up being a decent game unlike most movie game tie-ins!

It looks awesome though - it would be cool if they released a polished version of this as an acrcade type game on PSN and X-Box Live - sort of like Sonic but with The Flash obviously! :)
joshw24 - 10/8/2009, 2:11 PM
I believe this is real, no way u could finish this much graphics even in 24hrs with this much detail.
Flash even looks good in Mortal Kombat Vs DC!!
Spock - 10/8/2009, 2:28 PM
SirPrize - 10/8/2009, 2:28 PM
I just ordered a pair of BAPE Flash trainers, a BAPE Flash T-shirt along with a cool Flash costume/hoodie..

The Flash is awesome and this video is awesome.. Seems a bit like a cross betweem Mirror's Edge/Sonic

Nice one Josh

"You know why?.. Because I'm the Fastest Man Alive!"

The Flash videogame would be immense, considering the success of Arkham Asylum.
Imran - 10/8/2009, 2:33 PM
Awesome!
NightAvenger4 - 10/8/2009, 2:56 PM
not even going to look damn recession
SHHH - 10/8/2009, 2:59 PM
SirPrize@ lmao :P

Josh@ amazing find, now i dont play video games but the graphics look quite old but id love for this to be a movie :)
teabag - 10/8/2009, 3:24 PM
This is footage from DCU Online (DC Universe) it is coming out for PS3&PC it is a MMO and is supposed to be going head to head with XBOX 360, which will be lauching Champions first quarter 2010. And yes I Champions is out for PC but that is just a extended beta for the most part. Both PS3 & XBOX are tring to break into the MMO market for console at the same time with diff Comic based MMOs
KnG - 10/8/2009, 3:26 PM
teabag: Thanks! :) I wasnt sure whether to post the article or not but Im glad I did - as you know, Im not a huge DC fan but a Flash movie would be awesome!
joshw24 - 10/8/2009, 3:31 PM
JOSH @ Lol, yeah lets hope someone picks up the game, looks [frick]ing sweet dude!!!

Hey JOSH, i reckon you'd luv THE FLASH tv show that was done in the 90's, its a very good quality underrated show, you should check it out, you'll like it!!
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 3:45 PM
This game looks like it would have been awesome! Great find Josh!

A Flash game has real potential! Just like the movies do!

I'd love to see Michael Rosenbaum do the voice for Flash in a game. He was perfect in the shows, and I reckon he would be a good Wally in live action as well!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/8/2009, 3:48 PM


Check it out, quality show!!! ; )
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 3:54 PM
Damn right LEEE...you know i love my box set....sniff lol



i have to post this pic simply for the drawn on abs....





lmao
teabag - 10/8/2009, 4:00 PM
TYLER: Cheers man! :)

LEE & teabag: Ok, thanks for the tip! Is it still possible to buy it on DVD though!?!
joshw24 - 10/8/2009, 4:01 PM
@KnG I highly doubt that this is game footage from DCUO... The landscape looks similar but there are two problems:

1. You can't play as the actual DCU characters in DC Universe Online.

2. The PS3 doesn't have "Y" or "B" buttons, that's Xbox, and DCUO was built from the ground up for the PS3 (and then the PC).

My $0.2 cents :0)
Nathan Best - 10/8/2009, 4:04 PM
I LIKE THE LOOK OF THE GAME..ITS LIKE SEEING THE COMIC BROUGHT TO LIFE
GUNSMITH - 10/8/2009, 4:08 PM
Josh@ yeah i have it but it took me ages to find it on the net ....22 episodes of the best superhero show made imo :)
teabag - 10/8/2009, 4:17 PM
:(:( too bad that never came out...looks kind of like the spider man three game or gta rip off only speeded up lol
cman555 - 10/8/2009, 4:17 PM
this looks great for early stuff, i really wish this game came out, i wonder why they sopped it
Ryden - 10/8/2009, 4:53 PM
JOSH @ Yeah what TEABAG said!! ; )

TEA @ Lmao, like da pic bwahhahahhaha!!

Damn, id luv THE FLASH box set to come out on BLU-RAY, but as you know i aint got the real deal yet only copies arghhh lol. i will get it!!

An TEA @ Your right, it is the best ever superhero show, made before its time! Shouldve lasted seasons!!!

Damn same happened to the Live TICK!!
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 5:01 PM
JOSH @ Kudos on your MARVEL JOSHw24 pic up top man!
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 5:02 PM
LEE: Thanks man! :D Its just a prototype right now - Im trying to include the DC logo in there as well as the word "news" but i just have MS Paint which is pretty basic, lol! Oh, and I just finished Season 2 of Dexter - its definitely one of the greates shows ever made! Glad I took your advice and checked it out!
joshw24 - 10/8/2009, 5:07 PM
How hard can a Flash movie be? I mean seriously, four flashes to choose from, rich back story and history, an entire gallery of rouges.

That game looks great. Bummer.
hush - 10/8/2009, 5:08 PM
LEEE@ yeah it was before its time...breaks my heart to know a true superhero show gets one season while Snorville gets 9..;(
teabag - 10/8/2009, 5:08 PM
Man, this looks like a Killer action/comicbook VG. Would love to play it... if it ever gets made.
@Leee- Love that show. Was one of my favs when I was a kid... Plus Mark Hamill as The Trickster. How much better could it get?
@teabag- LMFAO. My Flash halloween costume looks so much better. Plus, Mine fits. lol
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 5:13 PM
MagicFingers@ il tell you how much better the 1st episode after the pilot had a werewolf....yeah the show was excellent :P
teabag - 10/8/2009, 5:22 PM
I leave for one flippin day and this stuff comes out!!! That game is AWESOME!!! I want me some of that game. FINISH IT! Sell it to company to do it, or something! Sheesh! Ughh...
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 5:33 PM
What were people saying about Flash not being an interesting movie to see? With the right computer-aided graphics and imagination, this will blow the competition of their hinges as a movie! I love the sonic booms, all time but Flash slo-mos, power leaps, combo moves...it was just how I would have envisioned it. It only needed the obvious final touch-ups.
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 5:37 PM
Damn that game looks like it could of been really cool. First time on here after following this site for about 6 months now, whats up everybody?
jaydcart - 10/8/2009, 5:39 PM
@teabag- Heck yeah! I totally agree with you on how great this series was. Must get DVD set.
Hope the movie will be set around Barry Allen (Hal Jordan= GL, Barry= THE FLASH).
Keeping my Magic Fingers crossed.
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 5:40 PM
@Phinehas- It's about time! Where have you been? BTW Love the avatar. I have that same issue sighed by the artist, Ken Lashly.
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 5:45 PM
Tyler-
LOL
You keep re-casting everyone from JL(U) TAS as the actual live-action real heroes!!!

Great article, Josh! Made my day.

TheProgram-
You're lucky to be alive, buddy.
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 5:47 PM
Magic-
I have it too! I was going to get a canvas screen print until the economy took a big kerplunk!

Signed??? Lucky Dog. Van Sciver is pretty good, but Lashley had some spark that really captured Flash's (Bart) intensity!
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 5:48 PM
jaydcart@ welcome to the party :)
teabag - 10/8/2009, 5:48 PM
@jaydcart- What UP? I'm also new here. For good points and great laughs, teabag and LEEE777 are the ones to look for. Take it easy guys.
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 5:48 PM
@Phinehas- I Know! That and issue 2, both sighed. I said the same thing about Lashley, he is an amazing artist. Plus, he's Canadian, like me. lol
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 5:58 PM
Phinehas: No problem man! :) Lets just hope we see the game made some day soon!

jaydcart: Welcome to CBM! Glad my article was the one to finally get you to sign on up! :)
joshw24 - 10/8/2009, 6:02 PM
Phinehas: I wasn't casting him as Flash, I was saying he'd be a good live action Flash. Big difference.

Also, he's only one of a few that I have casted from the shows. I have done a bunch of DC fan casts, and out of all those, I'd say maybe 5 characters were the voices from the cartoons.

Didn't we already have this same exact conversation?
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/8/2009, 6:03 PM
I don't find being Canadian anything compelling(Not that there's anything wrong with that! LOL), seeing how I'm Californian. But his talent is definitely undeniable. The problem is, I don't care for Bart as the Flash. His story is a little over-convoluted.
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 6:06 PM
meh... lame, that running around like that would get boring after a while.... and hes to slow in this game!!.... :) lol
WarNoodle - 10/8/2009, 6:08 PM
Tyler-
"Didn't we already have this same exact conversation?"

Not exactly. This is the first time I heard you cast Rosenbaum. But yes we discused how you non-cast (LOL) JL TAS voices for live action.

Easy friend, I'm just teasing you, you know.
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 6:10 PM
I can see the potential the game had, a shame. A Flash action free roam game would be sweet. He was fun in Justice League Heroes and MKvsDC.

WeaponX - 10/8/2009, 6:14 PM
huh i havent posted any boobs yet!!!! ;(
teabag - 10/8/2009, 6:15 PM
That old flash TV show was so dope. I'm vexed this game ain't coming out.
DarkwingDuckSeazon - 10/8/2009, 6:17 PM
WeaponX-

Yes he was/is! Its funny how this game took so long to develop! I'd love to see him running on the water, blowing out wakes 20 feet high! Just like on that movie, Firefox with Clint Eastwood.
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 6:22 PM
@Phinehas- FUNNY! I won't hold it against you. I can agree with you on Bart being an ok Flash, but not a great one. He has a photographic memory, which could come in handy and make him a great hero, but I think he's a better Kid Flash. Teen Titans Together! lol
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 6:22 PM
Dope and Vexed.....2 words that should never meet..lol
teabag - 10/8/2009, 6:22 PM
@teabag- Not on this site! lol
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 6:25 PM
Magic@ i can think of 3 things that should.......






:O
teabag - 10/8/2009, 6:35 PM
Yes, exactly! A better teen titan.

You know, I would like to see a revamped The Flash: Secret Origins with Barry Allen. And further down the line, Wally West living in Allen's shawdow, having feelings of inadequacy as the Flash, but having an unending comic timing and wit.
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 6:36 PM
I LOVED THE TV SHOW...TO DATE, I HAVENT SEEN A COSTUME AS COOL AS THAT ONE SINCE..YOU COULD SEE ALL THE MUSCULATURE-IT WAS A TRUE COMIC BOOK LOVERS DREAM COSTUME..OUT OF ALL THE SUPERHERO COSTUMES EVER MADE, I STILL THINK THAT FLASH COSTUME WAS THE BEST,AN I LIKE THAT THEY GAVE HIM THE MASK WITH THE COVERED"BATMAN-ISH" NOSE, THE FLASH LOOKS WAY MORE COOLER THAT WAY.
GUNSMITH - 10/8/2009, 6:47 PM
he needs to move much faster in my opinion.
grif - 10/8/2009, 6:57 PM
Ok so superman returns got green lighted but this game can't?
Peteyparker - 10/8/2009, 7:01 PM
we need this game mdc need to make it we need a flash game and movie
thedarkknight666 - 10/8/2009, 7:17 PM
Ok so superman returns got green lighted but this game can't?
Peteyparker - 10/8/2009, 7:20 PM
Nathan Best that's what I thought too.

The x-box controls are a dead give away
thwhtGuardian - 10/8/2009, 7:38 PM
You know what ticks me off?

They bumped Rebirth to November!!!
Phinehas - 10/8/2009, 7:51 PM
@sirprize
LMFAO!!!
gtrman - 10/8/2009, 8:51 PM
OMG PPL????????????

No one commented on the 3 WAY????

WTF, whats wrong wiv you lot?!?!

TEA @ ; )
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 9:13 PM
Magicfingers @ Hell yeah!! An HAMILL'S da man!
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 9:17 PM
Everyone,

FYI, I just revamped the main Members/Account area to clean it up AND added the ability to see all of the articles you've commented on (along with a link) as well as a quick link to articles/posts you've contributed (with a link).

Let me know what you guys think via the Contact page (webmaster option)!
Nathan Best - 10/8/2009, 9:45 PM
@teabag- Nice!
@LEEE777 & GUNSMITH- I love the costume in the tv show. Best by far.
Magicfingers - 10/8/2009, 10:41 PM
Magic @ Your not wrong man!! ; )

WTF was they thinking with that FLASH in that crappy JLA tv pilot???? OMG lol.

And welcome to the Club buddy!! : D
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 10:55 PM
this game looks [frick]in amazing i really hope that wb/dc starts workin on the movie so that the game can be finished cause thats most likely what they are gonna do.
drdeadpool314 - 10/8/2009, 11:41 PM
@Phinehas - Yes! That would be awesome. Maybe have a blur effect the faster you run and cars and trees etc. shake as you approach. Maybe have a "speed force meter" to do crazy fast stuff. Or vibrate your body through large vehicles and set them up to detonate. Steal or speed up an enemies velocity. A full exploitation of what Flash can really do would be just tits.

They really do need to get Flash into the homes and get people thinking about live-action. Like giving him a kick ass direct-to-DVD movie for starters.
WeaponX - 10/9/2009, 2:59 AM
Well, Leee@, "I" see the 3-way!

An' I see yer 3-way and I raise
2-sisters!

sisters 1
DDD - 10/9/2009, 4:05 AM



:P
teabag - 10/9/2009, 4:28 AM
The Flash TV show is so great!
John Wesley Shipp is fantastic!


flash tv 1
DDD - 10/9/2009, 4:32 AM
Oh Krap Tea@!

I just threw up a little in my mouth!

Must fight the gayness, must fight the gayness!

USA BIKINI 1
DDD - 10/9/2009, 4:40 AM
BIG BLACK BRA 1
DDD - 10/9/2009, 4:44 AM
TANK TOP 1
DDD - 10/9/2009, 4:48 AM
L.ol, your lucky the broadband here is [frick]ing up or it actually would be a 3 way heh heh.

Damn DDD @ Thats a very cool PIC of THE FLASH buddy,, very cool!!! ( Oh an not sounding g*y) [frick]ing other cool PICS too cept the brothers! : D

Tut tut @ TEA @ Lol!

DDD @ That one at 4.44AM cant be real man lmao!
LEEE777 - 10/9/2009, 5:50 AM
DDD @ Oh yeah i always thought it wouldve been a cool idea to get JOHN WELSLEY SHIPP back as THE FLASH in the movies, well just for the DEATH OF THE FLASH storyline, though i know that cant happen coz of they need BARRY for JLA. But it wouldve been a good way to end the BARRY storyline an bring on the WALLY one!!

Anyways MATTHEW FOX for BARRY ALLEN! ; D
LEEE777 - 10/9/2009, 5:54 AM
Why does every conversation now include pictures of tits?
ClintEastwood - 10/9/2009, 6:16 AM
Lol @ CLINT!! ; D
LEEE777 - 10/9/2009, 7:03 AM
awesome, yeah it looks like a spiderman game but still is good.
To Clint, i don't know but what the hell i like boobies
Ship - 10/9/2009, 7:12 AM
phin...oh phin.... i got something for you! I saw something & it made me think of you & thought you might like it and Im waiting to see you so I can post them all for you! =) i hope you like it!!! here's one:
Photobucket

good morning everyone! =)

KeepItReal - 10/9/2009, 7:44 AM
Ilove boobies, i even got me a comic book, adventures of the boobie watcher hahahahhahhaha
ClintEastwood - 10/9/2009, 7:47 AM
KIR@ Very cool m'lady :P....love the Avatar too :)



DDD/LEEE@ wanna see something WORSE than 2 gay guys......










:P
teabag - 10/9/2009, 7:56 AM
Wow, this looks really good.
Bandrews1 - 10/9/2009, 8:34 AM
ID LIKE TO SEE A SUPERMAN COSTUME THAT HAS THE TV SHOW'S FLASH COSTUME MUSCULATURE ALL SHOWING, THAT WOULD BE THE SHAT..!SOMEONE WITH PHOTOSHP SAVY MAKE THIS COME TRUE!
GUNSMITH - 10/9/2009, 9:46 AM
KIR, that is too cool!

About the TV series:
1. It doesn't come anywhere near what I would do for the show. In fact, when it aired, it was hard for me to watch it. The only appeal was that someone was playing a live-action Flash.
2. The running looked uber-corny (I haven't even touched on Shipp's acting). I would have done more like the six million dollar man (consider the budget and the special fx of the times) and had him run in slo-mo and add blurr to that. It looked too frenetic by just speeding up the camera. Not like a man running in real time at a high velocity.
3.The story was so banal.
4. Shipp's over-compensated masculinity.
5. Shipp's acting (see #4)
6. The suit, although it made the Flash look good, looked very stocky(wider). Flash has a very lean appearance.
7. They botched two things in the series that are pivotal to Allen (and West). They broke up Barry and Iris. And Linda Park was a middle-aged obnoxious reporter with no significance to the show.
8. I liked Amanda Pays and Mark Hamill.

Weapon X-
Yeah, those effects would be awesome! Don't forget the crackling lightning as he tapps into the Speed Force.
Direct to Dvd!?!? You're kidding me, right? He deserves epic! With that, an epic budget. He has to be able to do things that you see in this game trailer. Direct to dvd budget could not include that! Even the stuff you described him doing would be limited on a direct-to-vid movie.
Phinehas - 10/9/2009, 10:22 AM
Josh-

Super improvement on your fansite graphic! ;-D
Phinehas - 10/9/2009, 11:59 AM
when do they give this tv series? How come I have never seen it? Im sorry phin Idk so much of flash other than the cartoons. =(

Photobucket
KeepItReal - 10/9/2009, 12:18 PM
They did it 1990, KIR. The reason for its quick demised is often attributed to the new's coverage of Desert Storm. It would frequently disrupt the show with news alerts.

The score was done by Danny Elfman and Shirley Walker. Elfman did the score for Tim Burton's Batman and Raimi's Spiderman among numerous other things. Shirley Walker did the theme music to Superman TAS in the 1990's. Mark Hamill among other guest stars made several appearances on it.

It diveraged heavily away from the comics. It had serious problems. I suggest strong nostalgia for its ardent support. Its the only thing that has me watching it! LOL

BTW, love the graphic and your new avatar! ME...OW!
Phinehas - 10/9/2009, 12:31 PM
phin.... you surprise me! LOL! =) thanks
KeepItReal - 10/9/2009, 12:49 PM
WOW PLEASE FINISH THIS GAME!
CrashTest - 10/9/2009, 12:49 PM
better than the spiderman games
flames809 - 10/9/2009, 1:30 PM
KIR-

"phin.... you surprise me!"

How so?
Phinehas - 10/9/2009, 1:39 PM
phin...with the meow... hehe... too cute... ;P
KeepItReal - 10/9/2009, 2:48 PM
Phin@ i watch the tv show all the time and altho i agree it has flaws especialy with certain aspects of the comics i think your being too critical...to the point where i dont think you would ever be happy with a Flash interpritation...cus thats what it is!...i have Characters i love more than others but i am willing to accept divergence from the source material if its done well.........dodgy or not the show was class for a 90's show :P
teabag - 10/9/2009, 3:45 PM
PEOPLE LOVE TEARING THINGS APART..
GUNSMITH - 10/9/2009, 5:15 PM
Tea-
Likewise, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. The divergence from the comics is not a big deal (Linda Park, his brother or other liberities for long run tv show), as long as they stay true to essence of the character(a la TDK). I don't think they did. Shipp was just a big dork(He doesn't even know how to throw a decent punch[I wouldn't even let him be WW! LOL]). It also ripped off a page from the ADR of Burton's Batman. All the background looked really stupid. Smallville made huge changes from the comics, and up until the last few years, it was pretty good (minus the endless Lana pining).

I've said it before on this very article, if they made the action sequences like the game, it would be half-way great! Furthermore, if they can't do something really well. They shouldn't do it. Finally, I think he's too big a character for the small screen. He requires too much in the FX department.

KIR-

I said it with all my heart! ;-P
Phinehas - 10/9/2009, 5:27 PM
Alright! Off to the Angels/Red Sox game! Go Angels!
Phinehas - 10/9/2009, 5:55 PM
if you wanna see a sweet game that got scrapped that i still hope gets picked up again look at this at about 4:00 it starts http://www.gametrailers.com/video/world-s-first-game-head/24424 it looks so bad ass i cant begin to describe it
Whargoul - 10/9/2009, 7:39 PM
@Phinehas - You misunderstand me, I was thinking more the lines of DC's animated direct-to-DVD stuff, like "Wonder Woman" and "Green Lantern: First Flight", Flash needs his turn at it.
WeaponX - 10/10/2009, 2:20 AM
Phinehas: Thanks man! :)
joshw24 - 10/10/2009, 4:08 AM
Phinehas@ well i agree on the fact it needs a Big screen version at least :P
teabag - 10/10/2009, 4:09 AM
Oh wow, i could just picture those last three seconds turned live action at the very end of a teaser trailer. that would be amazing....
groundrunner15 - 10/10/2009, 6:32 AM
WeaponX- Whew! Yes. IMO, solo treatment should have been done before Public Enemies.
Phinehas - 10/10/2009, 3:34 PM
looks ok, but i'm sorry to say that Flash could not carry his own game. what would you do for an entire game, run, run on water, then run. and even if this game could make its selling point running, you can't really capture how fast flash is in a video game. it would either involve the player choosing a destination then arriving there, or it would be too fast to control. i like the flash, but he's a one trick pony, a really cool trick, but he cannot carry his own game...
Godl1ng - 10/10/2009, 6:24 PM
Godl1ng-

Have you actually read any of his comics?
Phinehas - 10/10/2009, 10:19 PM
yup, several, and ill admit that the hundreds of applications he comes of with using his powers are ingenious, but how many of those could you use to make a fun game. he can jump through walls, he can chop food really quickly, and type like 1000 words a second. a bunch of stuff you can't really implement in a video game... it didn't become a game for a reason. ... did you actually read the article?
Godl1ng - 10/11/2009, 12:35 PM
Godl1ng-

"it didn't become a game for a reason. ... did you actually read the article?"

Yes. Yes I did. And the reason it wasn't finished was because their publisher folded("When our publisher Brash folded we were about 6 months into full production"[That question of yours is disengenuious]), not because a lack of application of ideas for the character. In fact, the game demonstrated well the potential.

"...but how many of those could you use to make a fun game."

The possibilities are endless! Seriously, consider Arkham Asylum. Bats doesn't have any special powers and that game is fun! Most of the game is detective work and beating up bad guys, not focused on his gadgets as much. Most of the DC characters were investigators and detectives of some sort from the gitgo. That was sort of their schtick. Clark Kent...investigative reporter. Batman...worlds greatest detective. BARRY ALLEN...FORENSIC CRIMINOLOGIST. I have my doubts of your honesty here. I have doubts that you read the comics based on your idea of what he's able to do, and that you read this article because you had the wrong idea on why they left it incomplete.

I'll be waiting for your justifications.
Phinehas - 10/11/2009, 6:57 PM
do you know why publishers fold? because they either the game is taking too long, which i doubt, because they were 6 months in, or because they don't think a game is good enough to sell. and while i may not be well versed in Flash comics, or a lot of dc mythology, i have read enough and know enough about video games to know that flash can not support an entire 6-8 hour video game.

a forensic criminologist? really? please explain to me how you can incorporate that into a game. i don't want to play a superhero game to play as his alter ego, that is why the first hulk movie game was so bad.

do not compare flash to batman... please. batman is a detective, not Bruce Wayne, that is why Arkham Asylum worked. he had a plethora gadgets, and he operates at human speeds meaning that in theory, it wouldn't take him three seconds to floor a room full of baddies before any of them had a chance to blink. plus look at flash' rogues gallery. its terrible. your bosses would be captain cold, mirror master, followed by captain boomerang (or whatever their names may be).

not to say flash couldn't be done well in a video game. a justice league game that is worth playing that has a flash section in it would be great, but on his own, he is not a self-sufficient video game protagonist.

and you're probably not going to end up reading this so w/e.
Godl1ng - 10/15/2009, 2:56 PM
If you know from "reading about video games to know..."
then why did they start in the first place? Are you more saavy in this field than the publishers that were making it? Why would the publishers stack their interests so heavily on a game that couldn't get off the ground in the first place? Usually game (or any for that matter) publishers start small and work their way up.

"do not compare flash to batman... please. batman is a detective, not Bruce Wayne"

The comparison was made because the comicbook publisher was call DETECTIVE COMICS. Most of the time, the character spent his time going over clues and building a mystery for the reader.

"a forensic criminologist? really? please explain to me how you can incorporate that into a game."

Again, the point was, he's not a 'tard. He has skills. He doesn't have to be Wally West, or Barry Allen he could stay in character.

"plus look at flash' rogues gallery. its terrible. your bosses would be captain cold, mirror master, followed by captain boomerang (or whatever their names may be)."

So, villians from Batman's gallery wouldn't bother you? Like Poison Ivy? Mr. Freeze? The Penguin? The Riddler? Be honest here. They're just as cliched. Furthermore, with the right imagination than can be tweaked enough so that their not so cartoony.

Basically, your just biased against the character. Perhaps you just don't have the imagination to expand his abilities into a long form game.

Phinehas - 10/15/2009, 8:46 PM
You are arguing a point, but not really stating anything on your side, you're just kind of denying everything i say, it's not proving anything, it's like answering a question with "just because".
It's OK though. i will address every point you've stacked.

"Why would the publishers stack their interests so heavily on a game that couldn't get off the ground in the first place?"

Because the sound of a Flash video game sounds appealing. I'll admit that at the sound of it, i was excited at first , until i thought deeper about the flash. they obviously didn't stack their interest deeply into it if it was only 6 months into development. plus, it is no secret that a lot of game developers can be "out of touch" so to speak when creating video games, especially ones based on superheros, otherwise every superhero game would be perfect, which (not even Arkham Asylum) they are not.

"Most of the time, the character spent his time going over clues and building a mystery for the reader."

That is again, Batman, the world's greatest detective, not Bruce Wayne (who is actually naive and aloof, the polar opposite of his alter ego.) Flash on the other hand, isn't a character built on his investigative skills, despite the profession of his alter ego. he is built on combing the entire city to find a bomb, as opposed to using the joker's clues to locate it, and then running with the bomb (in mid-explosion mind you) and tossing it miles away from the city, as opposed to defusing it using his process of elimination...

"Again, the point was, he's not a 'tard. He has skills. He doesn't have to be Wally West, or Barry Allen he could stay in character."

never said he was a "tard", actually, he is a genius, but he is not "detective" smart, he is "figure out how to use my super speed to fix the situation at hand" smart.

"So, villians from Batman's gallery wouldn't bother you? Like Poison Ivy? Mr. Freeze? The Penguin? The Riddler? Be honest here. They're just as cliched."

Now they are cliched, because they have been copied twenty times over. a majority of batman villains are the first of their kind. Ivy, cliched? i think not. i guess captain cold beat freeze to the punch, but i really do not find freeze to be cliched at all, and a much better made character than captain cold. even looking at the coolness or lameness of batman's rogues gallery objectively, this proves not that Flash's is cool, but that batman's is lame, which has nothing to do with the argument.
The next point about modernizing campy 50's and 60's villains still doesn't work. that's how lame flash's rogues gallery is. if you bring captain boomerang to the 21st century, he is still an Australian guy who throws boomerangs, which in theory, flash should be able to out run. wtf?

"Basically, you['re] just biased against the character."

Am i really the biased one here... your icon is a picture of the flash. you are a fan boy who doesn't want to hear his hero get put down, which is understandable. flash is a great character, and obviously a pioneer in the speedster rank of superheros. but a game based on a guy whose ability adds up to (in a nutshell) super speed isn't enough. basically a flash game would be 1/7th of a superman game. you might as well make a quicksilver game. as far as imagination, i am a junior in high school (an arts high school) and i plan to go to college to become a video game concept artist as well as a penciler. imagination isn't the issue. sensibility is.

BTW, I've played all of the unfinished flash game demo... it was the dash parts in the Incredibles video game (oh no he didn't)
Godl1ng - 10/17/2009, 5:23 PM
I'll begin backwards on your points.

"Am i really the biased one here..."

Sure, I don't deny I am biased towards him. I am under no allusions. I said, "Your biased against". I don't think you fully appreciate his history. I've been reading Flash for over twenty years. His story has evolved to a point where the convolutions of his back story and abilities are more complex than just speed.

"The next point about modernizing campy 50's and 60's villains still doesn't work."

No more than a hero from the 30's and 40's wearing blue, red, and yellow tights. Or a man wearing a Bat costume. Joker works. But I'm sure you have a slick response for that too. The heroes have evolved. Bats carried a gun and his parents weren't originally murdered. The villians can evolve too.

"Ivy, cliched? i think not."

Come now. The cliche is the schtick of the character. Ecoterrorist=Ivy. Freeze=Wants the world cold. The list can go on forever for every hero and villian. So, yes. They are cliched.

"Flash on the other hand, isn't a character built on his investigative skills"

Yes he was. Proof you haven't read. You are no doubt more familiar with West than that of Allen. That's fine.

"he is built on combing the entire city to find a bomb, as opposed to using the joker's clues to locate it, and then running with the bomb (in mid-explosion mind you) and tossing it miles away from the city, as opposed to defusing it using his process of elimination.."

Yeah, that was a good episode on JL TAS. Again, for adaptation, things don't have to be that simplified. You are over simplifing.

"Bruce Wayne (who is actually naive and aloof, the polar opposite of his alter ego."

WTH??? They're the same person. Wayne learned his Bat skills as Wayne.

"they obviously didn't stack their interest deeply into it if it was only 6 months into development."

Yet you have already said,

"do you know why publishers fold? because they either the game is taking too long, which i doubt, because they were 6 months in, or because they don't think a game is good enough to sell."

"You are arguing a point, but not really stating anything on your side"

Because I spend the entire reply untying your knots. I grow too weary to go back to all the issues I've read to give you examples of Flash would work.

Finally, your candid admission of being a high school student is very revealing. No wonder I am arguing in circles with you. You know everything already! lol

"i have read enough and know enough about video games to know that flash can not support an entire 6-8 hour video game."

Hey, you're a smart kid. If you keep your nose to the grind stone and learn to ask the right questions, you'll go far. But here's a word of advice. Silence on what you percieve to understand or know, will take you a lot further than boasting your intelligence. There is NO WAY you can know everything about this topic. You haven't got enough real world experience. Something books could never give you. I know you'll resent me saying so after reading this. I resented it too at that age. You'll come to agree with me in another 20 years. Its just the nature of things. I appreciate our conversation. You're sharper than a vast majority of kids your age. It helped to sharpen me up. Thanks! But like I said, we'll be going in circles from here.
Phinehas - 10/18/2009, 2:23 PM
yup, and in the end, no one'll ever know we had this conversation... you're a lot better argument than flames, who believed that G.I.Joe was going to win an academy award...

yup, only really know wally west, and the little bit i do know about other flashes were tie-ins with him,

my point about batman is yes, they are obviously the same physical person, but, you rarely see Bruce Wayne's doing the dirty work because he is not a detective. Clark Kent is a character who uses his human side to go get information that he can not as superman, but batman doesn't need that because of his 80" computer. the same goes for flash (from what i read). he faces captain cold (comic not cartoon), i read another where he faced cobalt blue or something to that effect, and the last where he helps GL fight this guy with a yellow ring, which was a gl comic, but im counting it because he had a reasonable spread in that book and gl was out for the count during, my point is the flash that the general audience knows, isn't the super genius who can vibrate at a frequency to break his glass cage (glass, who uses glass to trap a grown man), but the guy who runs fast. a majority of developers will look at the flash and the first thing they are going to think about is the running. there aren't a lot of people who are willing to break down superheros and make the game accordingly, but who will make its selling point the name. i don't know how good this game was going to be from the footage, which i didn't think was that great, even if the graphics were refined but that's me, but the only word you can go by until the game ships is the developers. developers said that the wanted game was going to be awesome, and that sonic unleashed was the refreshing change of pace the series needed... the cake is a lie...

as far as boasting intelligence... I'm a teenager, it's in my blood... and even then, i was only stating my opinion, everything else was a result of the following comment.
any comic book video game i hear about is approached with caution, i wasn't sure about Arkham Asylum until i saw the first ten minutes of it... but based on the track record for super hero video games, which is like 12/200, and the complexity of Flash and the various annexes of his abilities, i seriously doubt a flash game would be more than a 3/5 game... but that's me.
btw nice catch on the jl cartoon reference, love that episode...
Godl1ng - 10/19/2009, 2:12 PM

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