THE LORD OF THE RINGS Expanded Universe

What will happen if WB decides to make more Lord of the Rings movies? What if we will be getting a LOTR movie every year? Will that be a good idea, and what kind of movies we might get? Is LOTR is the Star Wars of this generation?

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By dcmarvel86 - 6/12/2014

With all the news about the new Star Wars movie, I started to think about the LOTR (Lord of the Rings) movie. We got the original trilogy, that made billions of dollars, was nominated and won few Oscars (Return of the King won 11), and the movies were really good and epic, and they are loved worldwide.

The “prequels” (The Hobbit movies), are also pretty good, and they make billions also.
I will say something dangerous, and the Star Wars fans will kill me, but I believe that the LOTR movies are to this generation’s Star Wars movies.



I’m 25, and I remember when I was a kid, I went to see The Fellowship of the Ring, and as a kid I pissed in my pants with amazement. That’s something that kids who saw New Hope for the first time years ago probably felt. I believe that people who grew up with the LOTR movies feel that this is teir Star Wars, only instead of it being science fiction, its fantasy. You can agree with me, or disagree, but this is how I feel.
 
Anyway, right now there is an interesting satiation. Disney owns the Star Wars movies and the Marvel movies (also 80% of the world), and Warner Bros owns LOTR and the DC movies. Disney already making mountains of green papers with the Marvel movies, and now that we will be getting a Star Wars movie every year, Disney will have enough money to buy a galaxy.
The WB has DC, and I hope their movies will be great and make money. But WB also has Lord of the Rings, and if they make more movies after the last Hobbit movie, they can do the same thing that Disney is doing with the Star Wars movies.




Let’s look on the numbers of the LOTR movies:
        
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - $871,530,324

The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - $926,047,111

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - $1,119,929,521

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - $1,017,003,568

The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug- $953,066,855



 

So it’s obvious that there is a demand for LOTR movies. My idea is after Peter Jackson is done with “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies”, WB needs to start thinking how can they expand the LOTR cinematic universe, and start making more movies. And I’m pretty sure that they are doing it as I write this, like every other studio, they want to make some money.
 
I’m a big fan of Peter Jackson, but I think it’s time for him to take some break. He did 6 LOTR movies, and I think that sometimes it is better that a good director will step down, especially after these movies were a big part of his life in the last 14 years.  
I think that WB should make a sequel trilogy to the LOTR. What happened after “Return of the King”? There is much more stories in Middle-earth, and it’s a world that just asking us to explore it more.



Guillermo del Toro was one of the writers of the scripts to the Hobbit movies, so he already a part of this franchise, and his work on movies like Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth and Pacific Rim proves that this guy can bring it. He has such an imaginative mind, he uses amazing visual effects and poetic beauty in his movies, and I think he could be the one to be in the director’s chair.

Duncan Jones works on the Warcraft movie, and if he makes a good movie, I believe WB should let him try a spin-off movie of LOTR. I think that WB should make some spin-off movies, and just like Disney, they should release them on a yearly basis. One year is a movie from the new LOTR trilogy, and a year later a spin-off.  I think that David Yates could also be a great fit for some spin-off movies, after all he did some great Harry Potter movies. And who knows, maybe Christopher Nolan would like to do a fantasy movie one day.



I think there is a big chance that all of this will happen, I think WB knows very well that they have pure gold in their hands, and they can make billions from these movies.

And since the big success of Game of Thrones, maybe we will also see a spin-off TV-show of LOTR on the small screen.

   



So tell me, what kind of movies would you like to see from the LOTR?

                 
 
 
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TheReddestHood - 6/12/2014, 5:33 AM
Nice read. I didn't notice how similar they are to Star Wars formula wise.
cbmf20 - 6/12/2014, 5:45 AM
I love the journey to middle earth each movie as well and look forward to each story they have to tell, however I just rewatched RETURN OF THE KING and truly believe it could only hurt itself with a sequel. if u don't believe me rewatch it yourself. the movie ends on a near perfect note and I believe part of the reason it won best picture.

maybe new movies with other characters but not sequels to lotr trilogy
CarterHall - 6/12/2014, 6:09 AM
If they do anything in the 4th Age (after Return ofhe King) it would be very boring. If they do anything from Tolkien's earlier works they'd be arcane and confusing for the general audience. If they keep Tolkien's original flavor to the stories...

That just leaves coming up with something new and screwing with the mythos. A sure recipe for disaster.
tonytony - 6/12/2014, 6:26 AM
great article. Gets thumbs up
dcmarvel86 - 6/12/2014, 6:30 AM
@cbmf20
cbmf20, you can say the same thing about "Return of the Jedi". But I agree with you, I think that a sequel trilogy should take place long time after, with new characters and story.
Objectivelybiased - 6/12/2014, 7:35 AM
I will tell you what I told a guy when he told me that Avatar my generation's Star Wars:

"Star Wars IS my generations' Star Wars"

But besides that, it was a very good write up and well thought out ...and probably very likely to happen given how studios want to throw money at expanded universes these days. And WB has a bunch of properties they can do that with. They also own the rights to a good chunk of the Stephen King library.
MightyZeus - 6/12/2014, 8:02 AM
Good work. I really enjoyed reading through this article. I actually prefer Lord of the Rings over Star Wars. I love both of them but Lotr is just higher. I'm not sure if an expansion of the universe could go further than The Hobbit.

I would love to see "The Silmarillion" be done into films after Peter Jackson wraps up filming with The Hobbit but i think it's very unlikely that it could happen.

As for coming up with something new towards the mythos i think it should not be warranted and it should not happen. It's already been done with "Shadow of Mordor" which completely butchers JRR Tolkiens mythos.
DrunkenNukem - 6/12/2014, 8:02 AM
No no more LOTR...stop miliking good old franchises

Give me my Crocodile Dundee reboot haha
Klone - 6/12/2014, 8:45 AM
After the Hobbit, no thank you. Soon the Hobbits will be CGI creatures and not played by actors.
TheDudeRusty - 6/12/2014, 8:53 AM
They should adapt more Tolkien works like Silmarillion and Children of Húrin. I know I would go see them and many others would if it's advertised as his work.
H3LLBLAZER - 6/12/2014, 9:05 AM
Well, WB also owns the Harry Potter, Mortal Kombat, and Matrix franchises. They could buy Star Trek to compete with Star Wars, but apparently they're satisfied with Stargate. I just feel like WB should just focus on their DC, Mortal Kombat, and other franchises that haven't been fully explored or lived up to their potential. Harry Potter and Lord of The Rings have already been fully explored to their full potential and should be left alone for a few years.

I always felt like Lucas should have just left Star Wars alone after the original trilogy. But he kept exploding it and we got the prequels. Now Disney wants to do the same thing, lets hope they don't f*ck up like Lucas did. But again we all know Disney is just milking this franchise and it won't live up to the original trilogy. I just feel like these studios should just stop tampering with franchises that don't need to be tampered with.
TheOverlord - 6/12/2014, 9:13 AM
The problem is that WB doesn't own the rights to Middle Earth in general, they only optioned specific books from the publisher: The Hobbit and LOTR. The overall rights belong to Tolkien's estate, and they have stated that they won't option anything else to ANY studio. (They were also kinda pissed that Jackson made the movies the way he did, as they felt they weren't loyal to JRRT's vision.) That means we won't be seeing a Silmarillion movie any time soon, or anything else from the expanded universe. :(
GizmoEl - 6/12/2014, 9:16 AM
I love anything that takes place in middle earth because I love the world that was created. That being said I don't think a sequel to the LotRs would be wise. A prequel would be better IMO. I'd love to see a movie where Sauron is actually in power and the elves and men unite to destroy him. It could be with a fresh new cast (except Elrond might need to stop aging ASAP.) I'd def prefer that. RotK ended too perfectly
ruadh - 6/12/2014, 9:28 AM
I'd love more middle earth movies, but I would be completely shocked if it ever happened. Chris Tolkien and the estate have a deathgrip on those rights. And with the way they've reacted to the film adaptations, I can imagine the grip has gotten even tighter.
BlackIceJoe - 6/12/2014, 10:02 AM
The only way there can be more Lord of the Rings movies is if they take place during LOTR. I'll give you an example lots of stuff was cut from Fellowship of the Ring. The same with Two Towers and Return of the King. You could have easily had a Fellowship of the Ring Part 1 and part 2. The same with Two Towers and Return of the King. So I think the best thing to do is go and tell the stories that weren't told during those films.

The other way to continue this universe is use the material from the Silmarillion.
SauronsBANE1 - 6/12/2014, 11:10 AM
No. More. LotR/Hobbit/Silmarillion. Movies. Thank. You.
SauronsBANE1 - 6/12/2014, 11:25 AM
Seriously though, are the words "cinematic universe" going to be applied to everything now? I know Hollywood is thinking in that way, but are fans now too? LotR is probably one of the last franchises that needs spin-offs and expanded universes and all that nonsense. Leave that to Marvel and Star Wars.

I loved the original trilogy (flaws and all) and I absolutely loathed The Hobbit movies...so I guess in that way, this franchise really is the Star Wars of this generation: we got an awesome original trilogy, then a bunch of prequels that were CGI-fests of mindless action, cardboard cutout characters, endless winks and nods to the better trilogy, and a paper-thin plot.

The only difference is LotR was based on an incredible source material, and Star Wars isn't. So let's not dilute and water-down this franchise any more than it already has been. Jackson showed he could create a pretty great trilogy...10 years ago. Now he has an ego, he has full reign to do whatever he wants, and his true colors have been shown. After the last Hobbit movie comes out, there's absolutely no need to keep at it. Just let it rest.
TheBlasi - 6/12/2014, 11:33 AM
Gusto - 6/12/2014, 12:09 PM
I wouldn't mind more LOTR movies.
Just as long as they don't allow
that [frick]in' jerk Liam Hemsworth
near any of 'em!!
batz11 - 6/12/2014, 12:17 PM
Love LOTR and Hobbit movies...that White Walker/Gusto gif above is hilarious, nice article!
Gusto - 6/12/2014, 12:20 PM

Bastard!!!!!
wookiefit76 - 6/12/2014, 12:21 PM
Nice read. Good job.

But I'm kind of sick of the Middle Earth movies now. I mean 45 minutes of dwarfs singing in the kitchen. Wth!
wookiefit76 - 6/12/2014, 12:22 PM
Game of Thrones is the new Lord of the Rings. HBO should expand on that.

and I agree the Gusto/Walker gif was pretty good.
yossarian - 6/12/2014, 2:23 PM
My balls are the new Lord of the Rings.
Lhornbk - 6/12/2014, 3:30 PM
Yeah, as others have pointed out, WB does NOT have the rights to what you're wanting them to do. And even if you did eventually get movies from Tolkien's other books, eventually you would run out of material to adapt, and I would NEVER want any other writer trying to expand that universe. The one thing about the Star Wars EU was that Lucas did have some control over it, just as Lucasfilm/Disney does now. Without Tolkien around to help guide new writers, just let it be.
Wolf38 - 6/12/2014, 4:01 PM
Could be good, could, but I doubt that anything that might get made would be what I would want to see.

Not to be cynical, but I'm already waiting for a reboot of The Hobbit, at some point in the future. I don't like the way they're doing it right now.
StingyFox - 6/12/2014, 4:39 PM
I'd be interested in a Sauron origins movie. Just a movie where he's in full form tearing it up with The One Ring on his finger.
dethpillow - 6/12/2014, 5:33 PM
it's too bad they didn't make the Hobbit first. maybe like one 3 hour movie, or i guess more realistically, 2 movies.

but just pure Hobbit.

and then made the Lord of the Rings after.
why did they launch right into Lord of the Rings and not do Hobbit first? it seems like pure Hobbit is more action/adventurey and what they would first have targeted anyways.

i feel like there's an obvious and easy answer to that and i'm just forgetting what the situation was.

interesting idea tho.

even if they got the rights, tho...man, people would be at their throats about every little thing. some people think we're harsh and ridiciulous with taking them to task about differences with comic book source and making new things up, but Tolkien fans would definitely be a whole other level. there would be some serious dust ups over anything like that.

dethpillow - 6/12/2014, 5:35 PM
@Wolf38 - i kinda liked that old cartoon more, the way they did it.

dethpillow - 6/12/2014, 5:38 PM
stuff like how they did Mandarin in Iron Man 3...
like that just wouldn't fly with Tolkien fans. comic books have just had so much of a history and different writers and bad things and good things, that u can mess with them so much more. there's a certain level of pop art and self awareness in comic books that makes more things plausible.

Middle Earth just wouldn't work the same way at all.
dethpillow - 6/12/2014, 5:46 PM
@Gusto - u know they cloned Liam Hemsworth, don't u?

he's gonna be in all kinds of more things now. but they changed little things about him, so u are gonna have to stay on your toes to pick him out when u see him.

some people think Andrew Garfield was the prototype Liam Hemsworth disguise clone, but other people disagree.

Chris Hemsworth is suing me right now for even posting this, but devil take the consequence... i think it's time for the world to know.

supposedly the only way to tell where he might be is to smell him. they don't know how to change that. that's why Garfield is under such scrutiny.
dethpillow - 6/12/2014, 6:03 PM
scariest thing is what this means for our dearest, Emma Stone aka Eternal Honey Queen of the Veiled Kingdom. we've known her true nature for a while,
some of us have,
but then some others say that Garfield has been tricked her and living a ruse publically over it...and feasting on her fingernail clippings and the memories stored in there.

and that he is merely trying to capture her as some space age sort of Fornification Vessel or as the Hemsworth's more sinisterly call it..
"DNA Purse".

I mean, the little we know of Garfield already corroborates much of this theory, but confirmation eludes us.
regardless, the man is a fiend of the highest order and must be stopped before it's too late.

be wary, Good Gusto,
keep this letter sewn to your body whenever possible, and beware,
the ears have Owls...
ruadh - 6/12/2014, 11:09 PM
Dethpillow, they almost did Hobbit first but the rights issue was too much to deal with at the time. They found out lotr was way more attainable and so on. Hobbit was still tough even after that, as evidenced with how long it took to get the production going. The biggest issue is realized when you sit down to watch the movie and finally get through the initial fifteen minutes of various studio logo feces.
Christuffer - 6/13/2014, 9:19 AM
In my eyes, anyone who doesn't like the Hobbit films was never a LOTR fan to begin with. Admittedly, they swapped practical effects for an overabundance of CGI, and I'd take the practical effects any day, but there's nothing wrong with the Hobbit films at their core. People just love to hate.
Holmes - 6/15/2014, 11:11 PM
im always down for a trip to middle earth!

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