Why The SPIDER-MAN Movies Are Broken & The X-MEN Films Are Great

With X-Men: Days Of Future Past resonating with fans across the globe and The Amazing Spider-man 2 not so much, now's a good a time as any to look at why this is the case. Hit the jump for a breakdown of what makes one more a success franchise than the other.

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yossarian - 6/2/2014, 7:45 AM
I'm broken and great.
Gusto - 6/2/2014, 7:50 AM

GizmoEl - 6/2/2014, 7:50 AM
I don't get how peoples views have changed immediately over the X-Men franchise. It's still a cluttered mess and needs fixing. And TASM series ain't broken, it's actually pretty great. People just need to let the reboot do it's thing.
Pasto - 6/2/2014, 7:50 AM
musim - 6/2/2014, 7:54 AM
I'm ready for a couple months from now when all the people who didn't like DOFP speak up and are heard in a respected matter. Stupid hype.
0megaDaGod - 6/2/2014, 7:55 AM
Neither are great, though Spider Man is definitely more broken. X Men have fallen to lower lows, but have consistently reached higher highs, as X2, First Class and DOFP make up some of the best CBMs of all time

Aside from Spider Man 2, Sony has been putting out middling efforts. Very hit and miss
SuperCat - 6/2/2014, 7:56 AM
SpiderFraud - 6/2/2014, 7:57 AM
I enjoyed DoFp but I don't see the hype (I been behind the Fox-Men movies since the beginning). It is funny seeing how flip floppy comic book fans are, though.
SuperCat - 6/2/2014, 7:58 AM
LMAO!!! "Twilight sh*t."
cipher - 6/2/2014, 7:58 AM
F*ck, goddammit.. yoss stole my line.
Highflyer - 6/2/2014, 7:59 AM
Here we go...
cipher - 6/2/2014, 7:59 AM
Pasties,

Kindly refrain from ever spamming the ever-lovin' shit out of my inbox again. I will wring your goddamn neck if you do.

Love, ciph
cipher - 6/2/2014, 8:01 AM
P.S., how many avatar changes is that in the week I was gone?
Spock0Clock - 6/2/2014, 8:03 AM
Every X-Men movie has a scene where either Magneto is the big bad guy with an evil plan to kill humans, or Magneto was being sort of a good guy for the whole movie but then coopts the humans' plans to kill mutants to kill humans instead.

While there is certainly more variety in the X-Men movies, they have their painfully predictable plot points, as well.
SuperCat - 6/2/2014, 8:03 AM
MightyZeus - 6/2/2014, 8:04 AM
Spider-man is broken and i believe it probably won't head in the right direction where as X-men is headed in the right direction.
Batmaniac - 6/2/2014, 8:04 AM
The X-Men movies have been great for the most part, in my opinion. Sure, there's been a few bumps in the road (Last Stand, Origins), but X-Men, X-2, First Class, The Wolverine & Days of Future of Past have all been good to great. As a fan, I'm so glad to see the film series still going strong.

YoungThanos - 6/2/2014, 8:04 AM
Because despite all the money put into these SM films they all start and end the same way.

Has it not dawned on Sony that "Saving the girl" 5 times straight has gotten old???
SuperCat - 6/2/2014, 8:05 AM
DanteSparda - 6/2/2014, 8:05 AM
The Spidey films aren't that broken in my opinion, the X-Men Films of course are great and it looks like they will be getting better!
Pasto - 6/2/2014, 8:06 AM
You got it Ciph.

Spock0Clock - 6/2/2014, 8:07 AM
Well, hold on. In First Class he was actually coopting a mutant's plan to kill humans to kill humans.

Anyway, the point stands. Literally every single X-Men movie has had some point where Magneto turns into the big bad guy, even if it's just at the end.

I mean, go to [frick]ing space and hang out with the Shi'ar, already, am I right?
Savage land, anybody?
Just no more [frick]ing "Magneto and Professor X disagree about politics". I'm sick of it.
antoineflemming - 6/2/2014, 8:07 AM
No, Gizmo, TASM IS broken and X-men, despite it's issues, has still been better than TASM1/2 movie-wise. Sure, TASM's got all the elements, but it's delivery sucks. And yes, it does retread the same exact story. Get it through your head that it's the same people who made the first three. They're changing up stuff just to do so, and they don't get that it doesn't work. You people who hated the first three films just don't understand that. This podcast, despite it's humorous tone, is pretty spot on.
Azazel1 - 6/2/2014, 8:07 AM
Spiderman is screwed-58% on Rotten Tomatoes?

Really?

They should have never redone the origin story...
Mankzin2 - 6/2/2014, 8:08 AM
Well if TASM is broken then Captain America is in the scrap yard and needs to be recycled. Currently TASM 2 is only $19 million behind Capt 2 and that's with a 4 week lead.

X-Men always will be good as long as the story is good, same goes for any other movie.

Just enjoy the movie for what it is. It's not Shakespeare and very few if any will ever win a top movie award. (I can see mostly visual effects and the like winning)
cipher - 6/2/2014, 8:08 AM
Pasties- Haha, in all seriousness- welcome back, mate. Do try to stick around this time.

;D
Gusto - 6/2/2014, 8:09 AM


MercwithMouth - 6/2/2014, 8:10 AM
@YoungThanos

4 times...didn't save the girl this time...



And the XFilms have always been great. X3 was pretty bad, but Famke rocked her role as Phoenix(badly written, beautifully acted). And Origins was disgusting (except for Ryan Reynolds' Wade, and Liev Schrieber's Victor)
Highflyer - 6/2/2014, 8:10 AM
I liked TASM2. Oh well.
rebellion - 6/2/2014, 8:11 AM
i stopped when the guy said asm2 was faithful to the comics.
BatzFTWfan - 6/2/2014, 8:11 AM
Spiderman and Spiderman 2 were the only great, other sucks. DOFP fixed the franchise and i'm happy for them. Spider-man if needs to return, i hope Webb's won't be connected, because as messed up it is, linking to Avengers will even cause troubles.
BatzFTWfan - 6/2/2014, 8:12 AM
*to MCU
Azazel1 - 6/2/2014, 8:12 AM
I would fire Webb first..,

Keep Garfield

Introduce Mary Jane

Have 1 villain

Do a plot that is simple and modern aka-terrorist attack, high jacking, etc etc

Bring in Jameson



cipher - 6/2/2014, 8:12 AM
MercwithMouth - 6/2/2014, 8:17 AM
@ciph

That's the 'for girls' version...
Sunnyd - 6/2/2014, 8:17 AM
Funny how Fox studios dreams it had made Spiderman money with the X men movies....
They are not making these movies to win awards.
The studio heads know this and are in it to have a tent pole money making franchise and with 5 films made vs 7 Spiderman is more than a billion ahead....
So spare me the quality argument because your quality is not everyone's quality and if 100 people see a movie and 90 of them like it great but studios would rather have 1000 people see a movie even if only 700 like it....

TASM2 while not as good as DOFP even to me is still likely going to end its run another 100 million ahead of DOFP.
Both cost similar and spent similar on marketing so who really thinks the Studio heads want better quality vs 100 million more in profit....

Azazel1 - 6/2/2014, 8:20 AM
Days of Future Past like The Dark Knight Trilogy is awesome because it feels like it is happening within the confines of the world we live in...

The Dark Knight Trilogy brings in themes such as -rich vs poor, terrorism, mafia etc..

X-men trilogy deals with-Political corruption, discrimination, etc etc

What themes along these lines are prevelant in Spiderman?

That is why it fails...
CharlesLord - 6/2/2014, 8:23 AM
None of the xmen movies are really...well, xmen movies cuz theyve mainly focused on either logan or magneto but theyve had better execution than the new spiderman films. Plain and simple. Havent seen TASM2 cuz it just didnt look good to me and i hated tasm, but i agree with the sentiment that TWS is better than both DOFP and TASM2.
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