Alan Moore On the Impact V for Vendetta Has Had On the Occupy Protests

Alan Moore the creator of V for Vendetta chimes in on the Occupy Movement and how the Guy Fawkes mask has become a symbol for the protests around the globe.

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By nailbiter111 - 11/27/2011



Alan Moore is an interesting guy, there is no doubt about that. You would think a writer would be overjoyed to watch his creations become a full featured film, but he isn't like most writers. He even asked to have his name removed from the credits of 2006's film version of V for Vendetta. He felt as though Time Warner had prostituted his "baby".

And now the Occupy Movement, like Occupy Wall Street has latched on to the Guy Fawkes mask as a symbol, Alan Moore is back in the spotlight. He sees the parallels of the graphic novel and the state of affairs in many countries. He points out how in the 1982 comic the fictional police state relied on CCTV cameras on every street corner to help control the public.

And perhaps the most satisfy parallel that Alan Moore draws upon from his 1980's ten-issue series is how the crusade is successful. He said, "The reason V's fictional crusade against the state is ultimately successful is that the state, in V for Vendetta, relies upon a centralised computer network which he has been able to hack. Not an obvious idea in 1981, but it struck me as the sort of thing that might be down the line. This was just something I made up because I thought it would make an interesting adventure story. Thirty years go by and you find yourself living it."




What follows is an excerpt from
The Guardian:

"I suppose when I was writing V for Vendetta I would in my secret heart of hearts have thought: wouldn't it be great if these ideas actually made an impact? So when you start to see that idle fantasy intrude on the regular world… It's peculiar. It feels like a character I created 30 years ago has somehow escaped the realm of fiction."


"That smile is so haunting," says Moore. "I tried to use the cryptic nature of it to dramatic effect. We could show a picture of the character just standing there, silently, with an expression that could have been pleasant, breezy or more sinister." As well as the mask, Occupy protesters have taken up as a marrying slogan "We are the 99%"; a reference, originally, to American dissatisfaction with the richest 1% of the US population having such vast control over the country. "And when you've got a sea of V masks, I suppose it makes the protesters appear to be almost a single organism – this "99%" we hear so much about. That in itself is formidable. I can see why the protesters have taken to it."


"I find it comical, watching Time Warner try to walk this precarious tightrope." Through contacts in the comics industry, he explains, he has heard that boosted sales of the masks have become a troubling issue for the company. "It's a bit embarrassing to be a corporation that seems to be profiting from an anti-corporate protest. It's not really anything that they want to be associated with. And yet they really don't like turning down money – it goes against all of their instincts." Moore chuckles. "I find it more funny than irksome."


"At the moment, the demonstrators seem to me to be making clearly moral moves, protesting against the ridiculous state that our banks and corporations and political leaders have brought us to."




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elcaballerooscuro92 - 11/27/2011, 4:22 PM
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GUNSMITH - 11/27/2011, 4:26 PM

TChallaTchaka - 11/27/2011, 4:29 PM
I'd say remember remember the fourth of November the day congress passes the financial services Modernization Act of 1999 which overruled Glass-Steasgall.

Also remember remember Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 08-205 (2010
GUNSMITH - 11/27/2011, 4:32 PM
SUPERBATSPIDERMAN - 11/27/2011, 4:33 PM
I think there is a big difference between what happed in V for Vendetta and the Occupy movement.
jjmeylar - 11/27/2011, 4:42 PM
He's actually speaking like a level-headed human. That's weird for Alan.
marvel72 - 11/27/2011, 4:55 PM
it happened in london as well,check out the video at about 2:09.......

V FOR VENDETTA!

Supes17 - 11/27/2011, 5:04 PM
Where can I buy one of those masks?
MGS - 11/27/2011, 5:07 PM
Ironic that most people and anarchists seems be that unware that from a historical point of view, Guy Fawkes wasn't trying to destroy an evil theocracy, he was trying to install one. Fawkes was a fighter for Spain and the Catholic Church. His goal was to end the slightly more egalitarian Protestant revolution in England by restoring Catholic domination. While anarchists may be right that Fawkes was the only person ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions, they've forgotten what those intentions were. If the Gunpowder Plot had actually succeeded, Britain would probably look less like an anarchist commune and more like the fascist police state Alan Moore warned us about. So the masks are really symbols of what they really are rallying against. Duh!
GUNSMITH - 11/27/2011, 5:08 PM
SUPES=INTERNET
http://www.partycity.com/product/v+for+vendetta+mask.do?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=ProductSearch&utm_campaign=GoogleMerchant&extcmp=GoogleMerchant
DEATHbyEXILE - 11/27/2011, 5:14 PM
HeyVanity - 11/27/2011, 5:25 PM
Wait, so frank miller is being a bitch about it and alan moore finds it all funny? What is happening to our world?
Marxman12 - 11/27/2011, 5:44 PM
I think it's ridiculous that so many people here give Frank Miller a hard time. I guess the 1st Amendment only goes one way, right? It's only freedom of speech when we agree. I think most people here are desperate to latch on to anything that supports the unjustifiable mayhem that has stemmed from these protests. Over 3,400 arrests worldwide- murder, rape, public masturbation, drug selling and possession, assaulting police officers, blocking traffic, rioting, destroying private property, etc. All of this can be found online via credible news sites.
nailbiter111 - 11/27/2011, 5:51 PM
umm marxman12 not caring for frank miller's comments isn't anti-free speech, it's actually practicing the 1st amendment. i don't like frank miller's comments, he can make them, but he sounds like an idiot who is out of touch with reality. tell the 16.5% of the country that is unemployed that they are lazy and playing video games, when most of them are sleeping in their cars figuring out how to feed their families.

credible news sources? like what fox, cnn, msnbc? do you really think of those as credible. mass media is the puppeteer and we're their puppets.

juggy4711 - 11/27/2011, 5:57 PM
Nailbiter tell the 46% of Americans that do not pay income taxes to cough up their fair share and then may be you would have a point.
GUNSMITH - 11/27/2011, 5:57 PM
SUPERBATSPIDERMAN - 11/27/2011, 5:58 PM
Occupy Wall street is just a bunch of whiners who think that corporations owe them something. People don't believe in working for their earnings thwese days they just think people owe them something.
BatmanIsBaddest - 11/27/2011, 6:12 PM
You are "the 99%"? No, you're more like the 1% because the majority of Americans (rich or not) think you're a joke. As Gingy said: "Get a job, right after you take a bath."

(And before you people bite my head off: There are "Help Wanted" signs everywhere. If menial labor is below you, you deserve to be unemployed.)
nailbiter111 - 11/27/2011, 6:22 PM
juggy4711, it's actually 49% that don't pay taxes, and i always say remove all taxes and make a universal sales tax. each state is responsible for tracking sales and enforcing the rule so to limit the black market of goods that would happen. states get their cut and the fed gets the rest, presto chango everyone buys goods, thus everyone pays taxes. rich buy more goods then poor people, thus they pay more taxes. problem solved.
Supes17 - 11/27/2011, 6:39 PM
K just ordered the mask from amazon lol
HavocT - 11/27/2011, 7:07 PM
And no one mentions anon or its origin? lol
cable23 - 11/27/2011, 7:26 PM
I was all for the Occupy Wallstreet until the hippies came along. Thats when the shooting, the rape, and the unsanitary mess came to be. Bottom line is something needs to change and the people are fed up with their goverment. I know a lot of people want to blame Obama but to me its Congress. Screw the these different political parties because if they were smart enough they would work together to find a common solution. But hey a man can only dream.
tripttwe - 11/27/2011, 7:31 PM
@ yossarian You Sir, get the LOL. To all the rest of you that see the OW participants as crybabies, lazy, etc.- either understand the math - or shut the hell up. Unless you are IN the 1%, you are getting screwed over by the same people you are defending. Simple enough? Cool...
nailbiter111 - 11/27/2011, 7:38 PM
teddykgb, don't feel bad for me because you can't understand that we're talking about income tax with that percentage. keep up.
GUNSMITH - 11/27/2011, 8:00 PM
WASSAP

Ranger14 - 11/27/2011, 8:04 PM
tripttwe@ Please enlighten us as to how everyone in the 99% is getting screwed over by the 1%? Many of the 99% are earning a decent living. It's just the unemployed and underemployed that are feeling like they are getting screwed over. I still find it is amazing that being successful in this country is under fire. Sure, there are some corrupt corporations out there, but not all the 1% is guilty of corruption, just like not all the 99% is getting screwed over. If the Occupiers are feeling so screwed over by greedy corporations, I suggest they don't sport all their corporate-made paraphernalia at their protests. Bitchin' about the evil corporations while messaging on their iPads, storing their Dasani water in their Rubbermaid coolers, texting on their Droid phones, wearing their Abercrombie & Fitch jeans and shirts, drinking their Starbucks coffee. Talk about hypocrisy at its finest.

...and let's ask the UK how trying to level out income classes in the 70's worked out. It didn't and they are still reeling from it. If someone has a valid plan as to how to make an economy work without their being a separation between the higher and lower income class, I am open to hearing it.
nailbiter111 - 11/27/2011, 8:14 PM
Evil Twin this is a warning don't False Report me again. you've been warned.
redleaf - 11/27/2011, 8:35 PM
Alan Moore was never the jerk some make him out to be.
Ranger14 - 11/27/2011, 9:07 PM
^ Exactly!
yankeemanf - 11/27/2011, 10:54 PM
take it from a guy who lives in the city...and im not a wealthy person im an 18 year old whose father is a retired park policeman who now is head of homeland security at laguardia...so im not a wealthy person at all so im unbiased but the occupy wall street movement is a very unintelligent movement they r protesting people exercising their rights as Americans to make a profit...they r protesting because they want the government to babysit them their whole lives so that they dont have to make a major decision ever in their life and they dont have to work...the same people that are in this movement are the same people that quit their jobs because they feel its immoral for big business to make money and now they sit in starbucks drinking coffee while they are on their apple laptops
jaycr - 11/27/2011, 11:07 PM
I love the Irony. I would like to see the day when the US people finally accept that their god is the Almighty Dollar and not some freaking Jewish hippie that supposedly lived and died 2000 years ago.At least I will appreciate the honestly.

So C'mon "americans", be honest with the rest of the world, like the Chinese business man from this video...


yankeemanf - 11/28/2011, 12:01 AM
@nobo82 yes, what you say about the tv networks is true, but, as a person who has been through this protesting for the past few months and have seen these people you would see that what i have said is true and since you are disagreeing with what im saying, i know that you are either one of the protesters or you are a liberal from another state that believes that just cause they are protesting something like big business that their cause is a just one. however, that is truly not the case. and no, i am not a conservative. i am actually a moderate person i believe both parties are corrupted. i am just speaking the truth as a first hand eyewitness.......
and @dawnelldo that comment was the most dumb response i have ever heard. You cannot even back up why my comment was so dumb, which gives my comment more feet to stand on
yankeemanf - 11/28/2011, 12:32 AM
@nobo82 you do realize that this movement wont change the fact that the government does not care about average Americans. If anything, this is making us feel like a nuisance to the government. This movement wont change anything. All it will change is that welfare will be increased because thats what they want. They are protesting that people who work hard on wall street making a lot of money are making too much money and that they want some. They feel that Wall Street workers are the cause of our recession, but meanwhile, the people who want more money for less work are the people who caused the recession. The people who caused the recession are the people who are spending money they do not have and are ignorant to the fact that when you dont have much money you dont need a nice new car. I know this because i have lived close to poverty, i have suffered through christmas without presents. I have even been homeless for a year of my life. These people dont want to work hard. My father worked everyday except for christmas eve for the 25 years he was a park policeman just so that my family can live well in a house.
BillyBatson1000 - 11/28/2011, 4:23 AM
To HELL with this BS - what does he think of his old mate Frank Miller's about-face whinging?
Lockjaw - 11/28/2011, 6:04 AM

Frak Frank Miller.
Lockjaw - 11/28/2011, 6:13 AM

As Alan says somebody needs to be "protesting against the ridiculous state that our banks and corporations and political leaders have brought us to"
Shaman - 11/28/2011, 6:50 AM
yankeemanf- "I've been poor so that's why poverty is okay".

That might not be your exact words, but it's essentially what your comments mean. I fully understand that people who DON'T want to work SHOULD be poor. I mean, that's a given. What i'll never understand is how someone like your father, who's always worked hard at providing for your family, could ever be so poor to a point that you had to be homeless for a full year, let alone for a full day AND THEN watching you say it's OKAY.

If you support the fact that you HAD TO BE poor, no matter how hard your father tried NOT TO BE, then you are retarded. This is not merely my opinion, it's a medical fact. There is no [frick]ing way your inner survival instinct would ever support hard working people having to be poor and homeless if you weren't a full fledged retard.

And as lazy as you think the OW people are, THEY are at least trying to make sure hard workers like your father never have to be poor or homeless. Because, i don't care what position you choose, you make no [frick]ing sense if you support poverty for hard workers.
OtakuPapi - 11/28/2011, 7:08 AM
Anytime People Revolt Against The Established Social Hiearchy Of Society It Is A Beautiful Thing. Regardless Of The Situation We As A Person Worldwide Need To Rise Against The Corporations Which Constantly Manipulate Us Daily
Philvis - 11/28/2011, 7:30 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why people are 'occupying' Wall Street instead of the government. The government is the problem, but alas, we are the fools who keep re-electing them into office, so essentially it is our own fault. As for corporations, it is easy to protest them...stop buying their goods and using their services.
Shaman - 11/28/2011, 7:34 AM
Philvis- I think it's just for the show and the impact it brings. Somehow, it wouldn't work as well if they were "occupying" the white house.
kevberg - 11/28/2011, 8:05 AM
Anonymous are a bunch of cowardly douche bags that hide behind a computer and disrupt lives by Hacking.

Another bunch of sh@tbags afraid to take a ass whippin'


@teddyKGB, you're an idiot----exactly wht do you call getting a refund on those taxes the 45% percent get?

Oh yeah...BTW Explain How GE/NBC get to pay NO taxes on 14 Billion and oh yeah they're a DEMOCRAT supporting , green movement bunch of wackos who support NOBAMA?

kevberg - 11/28/2011, 8:08 AM
Oh yeah, and I think I get one of those Masks to wipe my ass with so it'll be closer to the OW protesters .
kevberg - 11/28/2011, 8:11 AM
I figured I'd show all this wonderful tolerance the libs show.
marvel72 - 11/28/2011, 8:33 AM
@ supes17

i've seen the mask on forbidden planet.com its where i buy all my graphic novels & t-shirts.
BigTodd71 - 11/28/2011, 11:07 AM
occupy a job right after you occupy a shower!!!
MGS - 11/28/2011, 11:56 AM
NoRegrets@ That's what you get when you let Hollywood do your thinking for you. How about these clueless actually hitting the books and reading up on the subject before they make a total ass of themselves in public?
McGribble - 11/28/2011, 2:08 PM
Darkclaw0, if they where protesting the government I would be with them. However they are protesting other civilians. Hence why so many people including myself agree they are misguided. I understand the anger, it stems a lot from what the tea party feels. The ideas on fixing it are totally different though.
McGribble - 11/28/2011, 2:35 PM
@TeddyKGB, 99% do not pay "payrole tax" since the 99% are not the ones hiring employees. The 47% which is an accurate number refers to federal income tax.

You obviously have little knowledge of how our country works and how taxes are generated and used. So I shall school you. During an economic high, tax revenues will be higher than during an economic low even if the tax rate stays the same. This is because there is more income generated in a better economy. More income means more money to tax. I agree that politicians take money for favors, but if the government would back off and stop over regulating, free markets would balance things out. Corporations could not buy favors because politicians would not have the power to manipulate the markets as they do now. Many blame capitalism, but we have been moving more and more away from true capitalism for some time. Our country is 15 trillion dollars in debt, and the OWS want to increase spending by offering free college educations to students? Spending more is not the answer. I have always found that people take better care of things they earn then they do things they are given. Ben franklin said "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." and that says it best. If you want more in life, work for it. Push forward and succeed. Many have grown from humble beginnings and become great. If they can do it, so can anyone. A free market will allow that. We need to go back there again...

I'll step off my soap box now...
Batmanhulkbadass - 11/28/2011, 5:35 PM
this is scary
tripttwe - 11/28/2011, 11:26 PM
@ Ranger14 "Yes, we all know that the US monetary system is run by the Wizard of Oz. That's how it works. You're not supposed to look behind the curtain. Just marvel at how awesome it is to live in Oz."

The PROBLEM.

What happened with the housing market alone was equivalent to me offering you a chance to see the stars. You take me up on the offer, and I hit you in the face with a 2x4. Then I tell you it's your fault for trusting me.

^ Exactly!

Premeditated corruption of others based on their ignorance should not be supported, rewarded, or praised.

These Illuminati-fueled corporations (yes, I AM opening up that can of worms) are very real. The sun symbolism, all-seeing- eye, and numerous other hand gestures, tattoos, signs etc are responsible for the downfall of this world as we know it. Call it what you want, but you explain to me how 9/11 happened when it happened, and look at the domino effect that has brought our society to it's present place. I say this all with respect for your personal belief system, but to me, if it lays eggs, clucks, and mates with roosters- It's a chicken...
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