IRON MAN 3: Shane Black On Pepper Potts/Killian Deleted Sex Scene, Tony Using A Gun & More

This past Tuesday, director Shane Black and screenwriter Drew Pearce, discussed Iron Man 3 at the Los Angeles Film School. They chatted about a scraped sex scene between Killian and Pepper, as well as Tony's use of a firearm, and the Ten Rings.

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Last May, Black and Pearce on an Empire podcast, they discussed a scene that was cut from the film, that would've involved a sex scene between Gwyneth Paltrow's Pepper Potts and Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian. During Tuesday's event at the Los Angeles Film School Black expounded on that scraped idea. The original plan was to have Aldrich subject Pepper Potts to extremis, which in turn would create a sexual connection between the two. There tryst would be recorded and then broadcast while Tony is shopping for goods to make homemade weapons.
"I liked this notion that when they were juiced, they became this preternatural, proto-superhumans, that they developed this pheromonal appeal to people around them," Black said. "That it was such a draw that he would actually steal Tony Stark's woman, pheromonally."

"The second-to-last draft, before we started filming, there was still this idea that Pepper ended up having sex with Killian, and then he broadcast the sex tape in Home Depot," Pearce said. "Oddly, Marvel, not so keen."

Black also commented on a controversy, that I didn't know was a controversy: Tony using a gun? Apparently that irked some fans. I don't know why, but that seems pretty nit-picky.
"I don't give a shit about how many times Tony Stark pulls a trigger on a gun," he said, bluntly. "Marvel can rein me in all they want, but I'm not going to go to Marvel and say, 'How can I make your hero less realistic and more heroic so it suits Disney's needs?' That's not my job."

Lastly, Black and Pearce were asked about the Trevor/Mandarin twist, as the moderator approached the possibility of a “trick within a trick” scenario in which Trevor really does end up as the Mandarin.
"Is it really worth it?" Black asked in reply. "I think there's definitely evidence in the Marvel Universe the Ten Rings are a real organization that were co-opted by Killian," Pearce added. "What that means is out there, and whether Trevor has anything to do with that, we may never know. Or maybe we will."

via comicbooktherapy

Marvel Studios’ “Iron Man 3″ pits brash-but-brilliant industrialist Tony Stark/Iron Man against an enemy whose reach knows no bounds. When Stark finds his personal world destroyed at his enemy’s hands, he embarks on a harrowing quest to find those responsible. This journey, at every turn, will test his mettle. With his back against the wall, Stark is left to survive by his own devices, relying on his ingenuity and instincts to protect those closest to him. As he fights his way back, Stark discovers the answer to the question that has secretly haunted him: does the man make the suit or does the suit make the man?

Iron Man 3 was directed by Shane Black, from a screenplay written by Drew Pearce. The film opened in theaters May 3, 2013. It stars: Robert Downey Jr. (Tony Stark), Gwyneth Paltrow (Virginia Potts), Don Cheadle (Col. James Rhodes), and Ben Kingsley as The Mandarin.
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LEVITIKUZ - 9/19/2013, 11:34 AM
I find it funny how Killian's plan was all because he was butthurt that Tony choose to spend New Years Eve in a room with a beautiful woman instead of meeting Killain on the roof to talk business.

Like how can you be mad at Tony for that?
TTT0809 - 9/19/2013, 11:34 AM
I think this was already posted. I think.
Dmon - 9/19/2013, 11:35 AM
So I guess the movie could have been even worse then it turned out.
ImTheDoctor - 9/19/2013, 11:38 AM
Again, levi totally misses the point entirely. In other news, none of us are surprised at this.

LEVITIKUZ - 9/19/2013, 11:38 AM
It was posted that Pepper/Killain made a sex tape ago, this is them [frick]ing under Extremist shit. Completely different.

TheRationalNerd - 9/19/2013, 11:38 AM
I like that idea (even rhough i still havent seen the film) it would've made me more pissed hopefully as much as Tony was.
Highflyer - 9/19/2013, 11:40 AM
Abary - 9/19/2013, 11:40 AM
LOL Wut?
Highflyer - 9/19/2013, 11:41 AM
I would have preferred this to that shitty mandarin twist.
DukeAcureds - 9/19/2013, 11:42 AM
Would've been good, but, yeah... Disney.
LEVITIKUZ - 9/19/2013, 11:42 AM
Killain ordered Maya to Tony's house, Killain orders Tony's house to be shot down, Killain orders his soldiers after Tony in what Nashville?, Killain steals the Iron Patriot suit, Killain uses Extremist on Pepper.

What part of his plan wasn't revenge against Tony?
imnotahero - 9/19/2013, 11:44 AM
That would have been so [frick]ed up. Shane Black seemed like the right man for the job at the start but when he started bringing these kind of ideas to the table they should have fired him. What does this family adventure film need? Hypnosis-Rape!
LEVITIKUZ - 9/19/2013, 11:45 AM
So 10 Rings is real and was lead by Killian. This is my problem. This is like if we found out Scarecrow was the leader of the League of Shadows in Begins.

Killain is a terrorist now.
NovaCorpsFan - 9/19/2013, 11:53 AM
PredatorRising was right!
jlabatman - 9/19/2013, 11:57 AM
Man, Tony would have been pissed!
ATrueHero1987 - 9/19/2013, 12:10 PM
Majority of the people who hated or think this movie is "shit" will buy it anyway next
Geotheleo - 9/19/2013, 12:16 PM
Holy sheet! So Trevor might actually be mandarin.ten rings has to be named ten rings for some reason..... Dun duh duh Dunn...
jlabatman - 9/19/2013, 12:16 PM
lol@ blackandyellow
I was thinking the same thing, watching them get rid of their only offensive threat!
McNyagano - 9/19/2013, 12:17 PM

That was not Killian's motivation -_-
Battabing - 9/19/2013, 12:19 PM
LOL! So this movie could have been worse?!

Shane Black has to be pulling our legs, right?

Superior - 9/19/2013, 12:22 PM
@Levi, there were two Ten Rings organization. The one in he first Iron Man was the real organization, but in Iron Man 3, that was the fake one even though the real organization was taken out a while back.
And the Pepper/Killian sex scene is unnecessary.
Superior - 9/19/2013, 12:25 PM
The Ten Rings was an organization in the Middle East that were actually active. Tony Stark would've already been dead if the Ten Rings was an actual organization of Aldrich Killian when they captured Tony in the first one.
Superior - 9/19/2013, 12:25 PM
@AnnoDomini, exactly
PsyGuy - 9/19/2013, 12:27 PM
That would have been a jarring tonal shift. Glad this didnt happen!

Then again, I bet everyone would have still been joking around, like when Tony thought Pepper was being tortured / dead.
JordanKing - 9/19/2013, 12:28 PM
Captain America used a gun, in both his appearances. I think the ex-arms dealer can get away with it.
GUNSMITH - 9/19/2013, 12:28 PM
Ineedrevelation - 9/19/2013, 12:31 PM
Superior - 9/19/2013, 12:34 PM
@PantherX, agreed. Captain America fought in the war and he was armed just like every other soldier and it should be okay for Tony Stark to be armed, he makes weapons.
MrDonut - 9/19/2013, 12:34 PM
Sex tape? Jesus... This film was screwed from the start... The trailers had so much potential made me think this would be Marvel's Dark Knight, but they shot themselves in the foot with the twist and comedy and just bled over audiences...
LEVITIKUZ - 9/19/2013, 12:36 PM
Wrong GothamRising

The 10 Rings were in Iron Man 2. A member gave Whiplash tickets to the race. In the credits, it said the actor who played him played a 10 Rings member.
LEVITIKUZ - 9/19/2013, 12:39 PM
What do I think blackandyellow? I will be taking my fandom to the Steelers. I'm getting tired of losing. Trading Trent? Are you retarded? Also suck for Manziel? I rather have Tim Tebow as the QB than that POS pussy ass egotistic [frick]tard Johnny. [frick]ing hack QB. And I don't even like Teblow.

Shit is getting old.
Superior - 9/19/2013, 12:50 PM
@Levi, regardless, the organization was still taken out by Iron Man before the events of Iron Man 2, there could still be members left, but they most likely went into hiding.

You should read this, it explains everything:

Gmoney84 - 9/19/2013, 12:56 PM
The biggest mistake Marvel made with this film was letting Shane Black near the project. He tried to make IM3 into a buddy-cop 80's movie and failed hard in the process.
Wallymelon - 9/19/2013, 1:02 PM
i dont know why a lot of you guys are trashing the movie. it was dark and light. maybe too light at times but its definitely a great take on the character. it propels tony's personal universe forward. i wish there was more war machine in the film and didnt really care for the paint job, but it was a really solid film. i honestly wish favreau directed it and shane black just wrote it. it would have fit more tonally to the other two movies. and the christmas backdrop in this film wasnt really the greatest idea in my opinion. i know thats shane blacks calling card, but still it wasnt relevant to the plot. however it does make the MCU seem a bit more realistic. they have seasons. not everyday is always bright and clear.
GodzillaKart - 9/19/2013, 1:06 PM
The "twist within a twist" would be stupid.

IM3 is fantastic just the way it is. The Mandarin, against all odds, found his way brilliantly to the big screen.

I am glad they eliminated the Pepper/Killian sex scene. Her relationship with Tony is one of the best parts of the MCU. It would have not have been an interesting diversion.
GodzillaKart - 9/19/2013, 1:08 PM
@Levi: "I find it funny how Killian's plan was all because he was butthurt that Tony choose to spend New Years Eve in a room with a beautiful woman instead of meeting Killain on the roof to talk business." it wasn't. That seemed to be pretty minor in Killian's motivation. If anything, it had been a catalyst helping him get his shit together.
FantasticSpidey - 9/19/2013, 1:16 PM
This film has its faults for sure. Watched it again last night, and there are several disjointed scenes and dialogue. Like when he meets the kid charlie for the first time, Paraphrasing, the kid asks who he is, then proceeds to tell him he is dead and hands him a paper with his face on it. WHY HAVE THE KID SAY ANY OF THOSE LINES THEN?

Then they introduce each other by name? Why would Tony then say "the mechanic" (aside from the final seen and the seen were Charlie calls him the mechanic to calm him down) the kid knows you're Tony Stark already.

But it has it's good things too, it's pretty funny throughout and definitely entertaining. It just certainly wasn't the Iron Man movie we all thought we were getting when Iron Man (not Tony) faces off against the (actual) Mandarin.

Iron Man 2 is much better, and Iron Man 1 blows it out of the water.

Then ending was entertaining, but they seemed to really be hard up on showing that his suits are flimsy. especially after showing in the other 2 movies how much damage they can take without breaking. It really ruined the Killian suit chop moment, as they were already appearing paper thin.

And they didn't need to even save Pepper apparently. So why bother going in the first place? He would have been better suited to finding a cure for Extremis then getting Pepper and blowing up if it didn't take. It did take, so she then became more or less unkillable.

So then you have the President, who would be the only real reason to go to the final location. And they saved him in about 4 minutes and flew off with Rhodie, never to be seen again.

So there are a lot of crap points to the film, but I've seen way worse.

It just really didn't feel like an Iron Man film at all.

At least in The Dark Knight Rises Bruce puts on the suit and finishes the film out as Batman. They wouldn't let Tony be Iron Man for much more than 30 seconds of film at a time.

repulse93 - 9/19/2013, 1:18 PM
"Is it really worth it?" Black asked in reply. "I think there's definitely evidence in the Marvel Universe the Ten Rings are a real organization that were co-opted by Killian," Pearce added. "What that means is out there, and whether Trevor has anything to do with that, we may never know. Or maybe we will."

So essentially, Trevor could turn out to be a fake identity as well after all?

...well that settles that.

How to Undo Killian's Character Derailment/Make Kingsley into The Mandarin again
1. Actually watch Iron Man 3 finally.
2. Look up all info on every other incarnation of the Mandarin.
3. Contact Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige.
4. Write One Shot, "Whatever Happened to Trevor?"
5. Talk Joss into incorporating Mandarin into Age of Ultron or Avengers 3.

FantasticSpidey - 9/19/2013, 1:19 PM
"regardless, the organization was still taken out by Iron Man before the events of Iron Man 2, there could still be members left, but they most likely went into hiding."


Stane took out the Ten Rings.
continuezero - 9/19/2013, 1:24 PM
I will never watch this garbage again. Fortunately it is pretty much it's own stand alone film so I can pretend it never happened and it won't affect the continuity for me. This movie was garbage. Worst movie Marvel Studios has made by far. Shane Black is a loser. Just listen to all his replies, it's just basically a big I dont give an eff.

Terrible movie period. I wish we could burn the master copy like the original fantastic four from the 80's.
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