EDITORIAL: Do you think they'll still be making comic movies in 10 years?

Hollywood runs everything dry, will they still be making superhero movies 10 years from now? not sure how to start this one, but it could be something worth pondering so I'll keep going...

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By ninjinturdle - 7/1/2011
We know Hollywood likes fads because it's easier to sell. Just like all
marketing, but especially when the product applies to all types people. It
works out pretty awesome when your favorite heroes start showing up to the
same theater you frequent too. After (however many years since Superhero
Movies became a regular thing) though, we've seen enough bad ones to realize,
"they're being spit out like romantic comedies!"

If the Green Hornet didn't tip you off, then the Green Lantern's flaccid
script, uninteresting characters and all around existence may have finally
brought around the thought, "even I'm getting sick of (the bad)Superhero
movies!" *Especially after hearing about Green Lantern 2 getting the green
light it didn't deserve(as a sequel to Green Lantern(2011.) **Of course, that
was heard before the $300,000,000.00 reel of green diarrhea was ever spun for a
theater going audience and it received poor reviews. I guess those focus groups
are a creativity AND gold mine, or not.

It's not long before you hear the average sitcom loving idiot screeching,
"jeeeeeez, what's with all the superhero movies?!" Starting with 14 year old
girls in the theater when you walk by a poster for the upcoming classic
character revival(or relapse) film. Then the market people and producers move on
to whatever comes next after the last superhero t-shirt sells.

You may remember the 2011 slapstick comedy, "Seth Rogan's roast of The Green
Hornet," a ComiBookMovie that made me think heckler of superhero movies finally
had his chance to ruin a comedy when he was aloud to write that ComicBookMovie.
If you care to hear more about it:. ***It was bad beyond the failings of the
first bad Marvel movies, Daredevil&Electra, and made me think about what more of
these bad ComicBookMovies could do. Something we'll all ponder because Green
Hornet 2 was green lit.

Back to Green Lantern, some early talk heard sometime before the theater was
about sequelS. As for this disappointment, the right thing may happen after box
office returns weren't as expected. ****Well, the righter thing as it's now on
hold until the box office cash is figured(this takes hours, it's like 1 guy
counting all the money in a small room.)

So how about the successful films, especially those that had the right idea
for how to do these movies and how to do a series right. Nolan's Batman films,
he Blade Trilogy, X-Men and Spiderman+- do from good to "the Best Movie Ever
awaited!" Yes, Blade started much earlier than the new reemergence of
ComicBookMovies, but it was (potentially) ended recently. Spiderman&X-men 3 were
lamer than their nearly perfect ComicBookMovie predecessors and Spiderman 4 was
altered to a reboot, but Tobey was aging and X-Men has an Origins series(not
Wolverine, that was terrible.) Plus, they were still well planned and followed
through with as Singer was replaced while he left for Superman Returns. *****The
Avengers was almost included, but Ironman 2 suffered some while the Incredible
Hulk's Banner has been replaced. These things were let downs of other types
though, not like planning to make 1 or even 2 sequels before the success of THE
MOVIE is confirmed.

A bright hope is that comics are not a fad. They've existed a long time and
survived through some tough messes including ridiculous propaganda films and
nerd bashing. The question is simply: now that ComicBookMovies are so common,
will they still be made after 10 years of this? Film fads come and go, but with
companies making serious changes due to ComicBookMovies being taken so seriously
and being so well made, maybe a part of the future of comic books is in the
movies?

Movies aren't the only thing ComicBooks are finding to portray their characters.
Batman has a stage play



The graphic novels have made great films too(not that they should be much
harder or easier) when they find the right people to made them. They have been
harder to sell to everyone though and even confusing in how to portray every
aspect of the stories as with The WATCHMEN and V for Vendetta. Watchmen kept the
same era and was harder to relate to while doing a great job keeping as much of
the books deep subject matter as was possible. V for Vendetta was updated and
was very well received by audiences, especially for what it was. Sin City wins
in all directions after attaching Robert Rodriguez to the project. This is an
example of how choosing people who shine in a similar genre to the comic
definitely works if it's done right. Not that there's a formula, but The Spirit
was a boring, weird, uninteresting or likable film with elements we have already
seen and understand enough not to marvel at them if the rest of the film is
missing.


to be continued...



*http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jun/27/green-lantern-2-greenlit
**http://www.comicvine.com/green-lantern/12-41148/green-lantern-2-wb-already-had-sequel-develop-embargo-related/92-618954/
***http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/mightyThorton/news/?a=40628
****http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2011/06/29/green-lantern-sequel-may-not-happen/
*****http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/mightyThorton/news/?a=40608
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golden123 - 7/1/2011, 8:23 PM
It could happen to superhero movies (remember comic book movies aren't a genre or subgenre). It's happened to the western genre.
ninjinturdle - 7/1/2011, 9:03 PM
I don't mind at all having comic hero films made every week. I just think the public will get sick of it in a way and then the corporate guys will say, next thing to drain of it's money making abilities please!
As I included into the article though, comic heroes never die and I'm going to see that Batman play one way or another!
MaddMonkk - 7/1/2011, 9:03 PM
As long as they are still making comic books they will make CBM'S!

ninjinturdle: That's been suggested, but at 3+ a year(since 2004 -2009?) The good ones being made now are so good because the demand drew in huge talents.
BIGBMH - 7/1/2011, 9:04 PM
Well, this summer we've had 2 well received superhero movies that made a decent amount of money. As long as people enjoy them and they make money, I think they will still be around. Things will slow down eventually as more franchises make the transition to live action and there are less new things to do. I think at that point, we'll see superhero movies every now and then until we reach a temporary drought.

Then someone will probably come along and reignite the interest because if they let it rest a while, people will be happy to see them return. "Holy crap! They're finally doing Batman again! Remember The Dark Knight? I love that movie! I can't wait to see what they do with this one!" I just don't think superhero movies can easilly become extinct when the source material stays around and remains in the minds of mass audiences.

ninjinturdle: 2 out of 4 made this year, where the other two were green dog droppings which leads back to one of my article's points, will the cheaply made/poorly reviewed/bad ones weigh in on it enough.

As for films living in harmony with comics, great point! Comics being around in the future makes superheroes an unstoppable force plus, theaters are an immovable object! The 3D is sticking to superhero movies and I just hope that doesn't make any of them less than their potential. But then again, back to my point about good film makers doing good and bad making more green glowing matter at the cinemas, could the idiots that put poor writers in charge of films or plan numerous films that end up flopping hurt anything.

The worst case scenario is that one year has a decent Thor movie and like 5 bad ones come. Then some big studio guy says, "they're done for," and everyone else follows. This site is a great help and I think the idea that that it relies on fans desire for movies will keep them going while the comics continue to fuel the heroes.
WellDrawn - 7/1/2011, 9:04 PM
The current popularity in CBM's is a trend, much like Westerns, or Kung Fu Flicks.
Of course they'll be making CBM's in 10 years, just not two dozen genre flicks a year like they are now.
Luckily, the trend is not going away for a while, but the shear amount of flicks will inevitably decrease.

The key is to find ways to stay fresh and unique while avoiding cliched "this is a comic book movie" territory.

The greatest hope for CBM's long term success is for the studios to create expanded universes (yes that includes DC)
The best way to hold the general audience's interest is to have established characters interacting in each others movies.

Eventually Marvel needs to find a way to buy back their characters from Fox, or somehow work out a deal so that X-men/Spiderman/FF can appear alongside Iron Man/Hulk/Cap etc.
The 3 Avengers Movies will of course be huge, but what's the next step? - get all the core Marvel characters back under one roof and build towards CIVIL WAR.

WB has an obvious advantage over Marvel in that they already own all their characters. They better get the ball rolling or we might not see a Justice League movie until the CBM trend is in decline...

All true and starting with a good film history reference. I suppose they make Kung Fu films ever since the first one too. So there's always that. I think the 4 a year deal is a great elation we have the privilege of living during it's excitement. Daredevil&Elektra is an example of a failed film expansion along with just failures on their own. Now we're seeing some poorly devised genre crossing happening with GH and the all around mess of GL. Kick Ass was perfect and GH tried to rip it off as if it were the first of it's kind(Mystery Men, Scott Pilgrim, MIB.) It's just in a time of growth I guess.
ZombieOverEasy - 7/1/2011, 9:19 PM
@WellDrawn I LOVE your name/userpic combo there. Had me loling.

Comic books are easy to bring to the screen, they're storyboards and scripts that just need slight editing (lol) in theory at least. I think the comic book boom is going to last for awhile, but I think the Superhero genre will fade a bit over the next 10 years and we'll see other comics take spotlight for a bit.

ninjinturdle: the storyboard point is great. I notice that actually being used in the last few years. It seems so obvious, but some of the films don't seem to use it directly. The thing that pisses me off is when the cartoons named after a SPECIFIC SERIES don't just animate the comic. Like "Superman: Doomsday" that could have been based on the huge series of comics(refining and shortening it a bit) yet was a G rated rewrite script. They could have at least based on the beginning of the collective "graphic novel" DEATH OF SUPERMAN. These companies crap out alot of cartoons based on comics that most people don't even notice when they could have made Knightfall into a high quality cartoon like the style of "Gotham Knight."
GodzillaKart - 7/1/2011, 9:26 PM
Well said, fsucsu, Substance will dictate future success of CBMs.
Osbbie - 7/1/2011, 9:43 PM
I believe our grandchildren are going to see "Spider-Man 8".

ninjinturdle: an 8th Spiderman film probably will exist, but who's going to make it? Will it be worse than S3?
Curmudgeon - 7/1/2011, 9:54 PM
"It's happened to the western genre."

Don't beleive the haters: On average, more westerns are released in a year than superhero movies.

I don't even get this arguement about how there are so many superhero movies in a year. You're comparing this to what? The 20-30 biopics released each year? Oh wait...
KilledHal9000 - 7/1/2011, 9:56 PM
its NOT THE WATCHMEN, it's just WATCHMEN. Stupid.

ninjinturdle: thanks
CplAmerica - 7/1/2011, 10:43 PM
Batman has been on the big screen since 1943 as serials, and comic books have been adapted more times than we can count (or wish to acknowledge). Comic books are now another marketing tool for film corporations and stepping stones for writers and artist. Now the question is will SUPERHERO movies continue to be made... I think that that's a harder question to answer. My guess is that after a while they will lose their big budgets and have to be made by smaller directors and cast. I wouldn't mind it being on the level westerns are on (at least people seem to take those seriously) as long as we continue to get a couple True Grits in here or there.

Sounds realistic and good
Jefferys - 7/1/2011, 10:44 PM
@Osbbie - And I'll still be around to watch that. Hopefully by then Sony and Fox won't own those products, but to that I highly doubt.

ninjinturdle: I probably will too.
cdpacheco89 - 7/1/2011, 11:21 PM
But 10 years ago they had just taken off. I mean even 20 years ago they were trying now its just become popular yknow? And 10 years in movie industry is like nothing, Its enough time. It depends if they introduce the right ones or if the the storylines have a good enough momentum to work off. Truth is there is no telling.
WellDrawn - 7/1/2011, 11:22 PM
@Curmudgeon

-2010-
CBM's - 7
Westerns - 3

-CBM's - Iron Man 2, Scott Pilgrim, Kick Ass, The Losers, The Book of Eli, Red, Jonah Hex (JH is a cbm first, western second)
-Westerns - True Grit, The Warriors Way, The Gundown

-2011-
CBM's - 8
Westerns - 3

-CBM's - Green Hornet, X-Men First Class, Thor, Dylan Dog, Adventures of Tin Tin, Green Lantern, Captain America, Cowboys and Aliens (C&A is a CBM first, western second)
-Westerns - Rango, The Price, Good For Nothing

I don't know were you're getting your info from. And your statement about biopics means nothing. The amount of biopics has never been a result of trends. Lots of documentaries come out too but that has nothing to do with how many CBM's will be made each year.
militantcharles - 7/1/2011, 11:44 PM
There's gonna be a lot of reboots

ninjinturdle: I do like that idea. The Incredible Hulk revival was a great thing showing us it can happen and *The Fantastic Four is thankfully going to reboot before trashing a trilogy.

*http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/whats-fox-doing-with-their-new-fantastic-four-wills-as-cgi-thing
gravityonme - 7/1/2011, 11:48 PM
Next year's going to be the big decider. With the potential of 4 different 1 billion dollar worldwide grossing CBMs releasing (yeah, I'm including Superman in that.), and with 2 other CBMs hopefully taking a creative direction for the better (Ghost rider, Wolverine.) 2012 is a f***ing insane year for fans. But it'll also be a crucial year to assess one major factor- General Audience fatigue. There's definitely a tremendous amount of quality in the CBMs next year but will audiences be put off anyway because the novelty has worn off and they'll be beaten over the head with 7 new 100 million dollar marketing budgets? We'll have to wait and see.

ninjinturdle: that's some heavy stuff. I don't know if Wolverine can be saved, it's unnecessary and only being done because it sold with Hugh Jackman's career growth. Not that Wolverine is a bad character, just that W1 had alot of stupid crap. But with his appearance in X-Men Origins and if Deadpool ends up relating in any way, there's no way he'll go extinct.
manichispanic - 7/2/2011, 12:33 AM
wow, this wasn't written very well. i gave up half way through.

ninjinturdle: really, I wrote the article in a rush but I didn't think it was worth a wow when it cam to the writing or that you'd given up on it. I also kind of messed up the lines by making them too short and congested looking. You're sure your being manic had nothing to do with it?
JHowlett - 7/2/2011, 3:29 AM
I think since the technology involved in making movies has gotten so much better in the last 10 years it has made making CBMs more possible. Think about it when the 90's Batman was created would it be possible to see a live action Spider-Man swinging around New York. To see a CGI Hulk that can chug a tank a mile away. Even look at the movies like the first Spider-Man and compare the CGI in Ironman or Thor there's been a lot of improvment even now. So yeah I think they'll keep making comicbook movies and being more abitious with the characters they portray on screen. Hopefully the people making these movies try to put out a quality product. We can't expect that every movie out will be a gem but hopefully well see more good movies than bad

ninjinturdle: FX are very important, great point. Some aren't possible without top notch budgets.
comiccow6 - 7/2/2011, 3:33 AM
Of course comic book movies will still be made. If there are still comics, and if we still have Hollywood, than we will still have comic book movies.

ninjinturdle: you point out a great fear of mine Mr. Cow, the terrorists finally getting all that matters in the US, our true gem. HOLLYWOOD.






yeah, Hollywood helps and will probably stay local so you're right too.
marvel72 - 7/2/2011, 3:46 AM
i think it'll peak next year & then it'll slowly decline.

how many of the genral public know they're going to see a comic book movie.

i.e a history of violence,sin city,300,red,the losers or road to perdition.

we're definetly be getting at least two or three a year,but definetly not as many as we have been.

ninjinturdle: unless the Avengers spawns a huge growth in the success and grows more fans and improves in numerous ways, it's possible.
Herosave - 7/2/2011, 3:58 AM
Well, I think it will slow down a little, as in fewer studios will be involved with making comic book movies, We will probably continue to have movies from Marvel and DC in particular. I think we'll transition to a lot more adaptations from different mediums as I believe that is what these comic book movies and literature based movies have shown, which is there are legitimately good stories out there that can be entertaining in more than just one medium. What works as a tv show can work as a movie, what works as an anime cartoon could work as a movie, what works as a book series can work as a movie, often times you just need to have the right things in place to make it a success or like some of the recent flops have shown, keep throwing the darts at the board until sometime sticks. Sadly, we get stuff made that had great potential (Like Airbender, Green Lantern, Priest) but for whatever reason was not conveyed with the right formula. So, I think comic book movies will still be around, they've bridge a lot of gaps between mediums and I think we're still only in the beginning of just how successful these can be. Outside of recent success of the Batman movies and Marvel Studio's crossover endeavors.

ninjinturdle: Along with successful cross genre superhero movies, other cross medium films are making enough money to grow this movement.
eatmyhit - 7/2/2011, 3:59 AM
Of course we will as Hollywood has lost all imagination and orginal idea's are becoming a thing of the past, So i expect more CBM's, reboots and remakes not just for the next ten years but probably until the end of time.

ninjinturdle: as everything is rebooted, some become continuing franchises enough that it's no longer like taking an old dead comic and giving it life, so maybe all the new series and updated versions that came from the reboots and all are the present day and they'll be around forever. Never being considered taking from the past but a continuation of whats happening so far.
AC1 - 7/2/2011, 4:06 AM
It's like all fads really, yeah Superhero movies will probably die out in 10 years, but then they'll suddenly make a come back. It's the cycle of things, stuff goes in and out of fashion all the time. Superhero movies have done well actually, if you think that they've survived over 23 years (Tim Burton's Batman [1989] - Man Of Steel [2012]) as a regular fixture in movie theatres, before that all we had were the 4 Superman movies released over a span of 9 years
imlinorama - 7/2/2011, 4:28 AM
Yo people, remember first Superman movie and Batman. Those movies still rock and are classics. I think that in the next 10 years or so we will see all of our beloved heroes on screen and in about 20 years we will talk about them and own them on blu-ray if they don't get some other kind of tech by then. I am looking forward the next decade in seeing a lot of marvel and dc characters come to life. So yeah, I think we will see superhero movies a lot in the next 10 years.

ninjinturdle: Great. As for blu-ray, something tells me they already have the next waiting to be released.
superpooper - 7/2/2011, 5:43 AM
I think the opinions stated in this editorial could be applied to the entire film industry in general, not just cbms. In an age where we are seeing as many if not more remakes of old movies as we are new movies, I would be more concerned with the state of the film industry as we know it. If anything, I feel cbms are a breath of life in an industry that has become just that...an "industry". These days, it seems like films are being made with more attention focused on revenue, marketing and the "bottom line" than on artistic content and desire to push boundaries and move the medium forward. Of course there are good and bad movies, as there are in every genre; that's just the way it goes sometimes. But with the non-stop progress in special effects and film making technology, cbms are finally coming of age. We are finally able to recreate images on film which before could only be imagined in print. I think super hero/cbms will find their place alongside "police/crime drama", "horror/slasher movies", "psychological thrillers", "romantic comedies" and so on. We've now had a taste of what the possibilities could be and we want more. We will continue to explore the adventures of existing comic book characters as well as create newer, even more fascinating original characters as the genre grows. We've only begun to tap what could be an endless wellspring of stories to tell. CBMs are now a part of our culture, and I don't think they'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

ninjinturdle: This article's focus and description of film can be applied to any genre of films in general but that just describes the kind of possibilities there are due to the genre crossing.
GUNSMITH - 7/2/2011, 7:43 AM
THERE IS A WEALTH OF CHARACTERS AND STORIES FROM COMIC BOOKS TO LAST US SEVERAL GENERATIONS, AND NEW ONES BEING MADE..NOT UNTIL CGI HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED TO VENTURE DEEPER IINTO THE COMIC AND SCIFI REALM...THE IDEAS WE HAD WISHED FOR WHEN ALL WE HAD WERE PUPETS AND FOAM LATEX BODY SUITS HAS BECOME COMPUTER GENERATED AND LIMITED ONLY BY OUR OWN IMAGINATION. CBM'S WON'T GET OLD, THERES SO MUCH TO TELL STILL. BESIDES, NOWADAYS WE NEED TO BELIEVE IN HEROES, THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW..PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT ESCAPE INTO A WORLD WHERE STUFF WE ONLY IMAGINED DOING IS NOW IN FRONT OF US IN CINEMATIC REALITY.

ninjinturdle: that is true, it's why cinema has survived so long.

By the way, that avatar's very effective at grabbing attention with the caps lock on. Great match Mr. Smith!
queenofdisaster - 7/2/2011, 8:03 AM
Like with everything else these days, especially when it comes to the sci-fi/fantasy genres, I see all of this moving towards television rather than movies to be honest.

ninjiniturdle: you see all of this technology and hero stories going to television? Or the bad elements?There's already "Heroes" and "The Cape" and likely a few more, plus the television cartoons. Good point!
Maculis - 7/2/2011, 8:19 AM
comic book movies aren't going anywhere. Not the low key ones (road to peridition) or the mainstream ones (batman). I mean, if I'm not mistaken, Superman was made in 1977 that's nearly 35 years ago. And they've already picked up pace. I don't want to get into a debate about it, but I think Thor hurt GLs numbers because I was so disappointed in Thor, I didn't want to see GL. And I wouldn't have if someone didn't buy the ticket for me. But I liked GL much more than Thor. Point is CBMs are hot and while hollywood may not pump out 3, 4, 5 a year like they are now. We'll still get at least 1 per year. Some one else mentioned that Westerns died. But we get at least 1 western a year. 3:10 to Yuma, Tombstone, Appoloosa and True Grit come to mind over the last few years.

ninjinturdle: the future's already been covered by discussions in the comments since the article was first contributed(not that it's necessary to read comments before posting, but it was already there) and yes, the low key and the mainstream ones(all ComicBookMovies) will continue to be made into movies, just not likely at the present rate.

The following bit about Thor hurting GL's numbers and causing you to not want to see GL is rediculous for a few reasons. GL is hurt because of GL's sucking cinematic gonads. I JUST got done watching Thor again and I can't see how anyone who's part of something called www.comicbookmovie.com could not only say Thor made him not want to see GL(they aren't related beyond being comic characters by different publishers so that's kind of an unrelated connection to make) but then go on to say he "liked GL much more than Thor." Also, that you're a member of ComicBookMovie.com means you should have not wanted to see GL because the world agrees it sucked balls as this site showed in it's ComicBookMovie reviews, plus the world knew it sucked because it was being siad everywhere. I understand about opinions and that's great that you were entertained, but you said Thor was the reason you hadn't seen it, so the connection is fuzzy.

Thor's story was solid and interesting, but if not interesting enough maybe Maculis requires something more out of an American theatrical tale and doesn't accept films with a fight count less than that of "The Matrix." Then there's that other depressing letdown of Kat Denning not performing Felattio on Natalie Portman on screen, and not for a PG13 5 minute minimum. Even if you expected "A LITTLE MORE" out of the well hyped Thor(which every movie could have said about it really,) I don't see where GL succeeds in any way as a worthwhile movie, much less, better.

Though I did hear a reliable being in a store the other day talking out loud to some other guy who screams stuff out in public about how GL was good too.

As if you didn't already seem like someone writing the opposite opinion of me&everyone expecting plot when watching movies just to disagree, you address (I'm assuming:) golden123, WellDrawn, blkyank, WellDrawn[listing film count for westerns&cbm,] with "someone mentioned that Westerns died." They referenced how westerns were very common at one point, then the craze died down. They weren't saying, "westerns died with John Wayne!" That sounded like someone just bothering people online with crazy comments, but you continued with this gem, (I ADDED THE DATES)"But we get at least 1 western a year. 3:10 to Yuma(2007,) Tombstone(1993,) Appoloosa(2008) and True Grit(2010) come to mind over the last few years."
What are you talking about man? Yes, westerns are still made and no one said they weren't, just that they aren't as common as in their golden years. Just a weird set of titles too, perhaps you were struggling to remember recent Westerns, which goes against your point, but only 4? True Grit's a remake(doesn't count against you or anything,) Appaloosa was a bomb and Tombstone was 18 years ago. A decent western comes around every maybe 3-18 years in your book(Unforgiven was 1992.)
And that's all he wrote. Enough for now, but hopefully we'll be blessed with some of that again!


*http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/mightyThorton/news/?a=40631
Bark4Soul - 7/2/2011, 8:41 AM
LOL I stopped at "Blade did it right", 1 was epic, 2 was a rushed project and 3 was pretty cool. Spell check is still free

ninjinturdle: Am I good at making people stop reading my articles or what? I've heard this like 3 times since joining 1/3/2011. This time due to reading my mention of the Blade Series, which by the way must have been read while doing cartwheels because this is where I assume, "Blade did it right," was quoted from:

So how about the successful films, especially those that had the "RIGHT" idea for how to do these movies and how to do a series "RIGHT." Nolan's Batman films, the "BLADE" Trilogy, X-Men and Spiderman+- do from good to "the Best ComicBookMovie ever awaited!" Yes, BLADE started much earlier than the new reemergence of ComicBookMovies, but IT was (potentially) ended recently.

Okay, so "DID" shows up in the article twice in different paragraphs, but still not a full/true quote. Regardless, 1 was very good, 2 did seem rushed more than 1 and obviously had different direction while 3 was also different but still good. GREAT POINT, I AGREE. Now lets review why what I had written turned Bark4Soul off so much:

"So how about the successful films, especially those that had the right idea for how to do these movies and how to do a series right. Nolan's Batman films, the "BLADE" Trilogy, X-Men and Spiderman+- do from good to "the Best ComicBookMovie ever awaited!"

It seems to be around here that the initial reading of the story ended. Perhaps Bark4Soul got to the first did if reading it was why it appeared in their quote, but that's putting my own words out of context back into... Blade alone and as a series was successful. Successful enough to get a trilogy. I see that as reason enough to say something along the lines of "Blade did it right" or whatever I really did say referring to the series that "(potentially) ended recently." It introduced the hero, he fought evil and in the end conquered the evil with a reference just before the credits that makes a sequel possible. That possibility even led to a tv series that ended quickly.
What was done RIGHT in this series? It was successfully wrapped up by setting into motion an end to the evil trying trying different things with the character and story. These different things can be looked at as different directors doing wildly different things for bad reasons, or different styles being used making the series go different places within each film. Not different directions like Batman 1989-1997, a well rounded number of filming styles, characters and color palettes were worked with. Blade II didn't out-do Blade, but was at least made up for it's short comings by Blade Trinity putting it back on trackif the changes were found to be that detrimental. Apparently some people turned the film off early too.

What about spell check? I had a few errors, but that's gone anyway.
EarOne - 7/2/2011, 9:13 AM
look i think when we talk about CBMs, people tend to automatically associate em with super heroes, and nowadays, sometimes they're not.

the way i understand this article might just be directed at the super hero movies and not ALL cbms. i mean, stuff like ghost world, the road to perdition and even blade don't look like CBMs, unless you're in the KNOW.

having said that, i hope after GL, hollywood will really watch their step and change the way they look at things, i.e. instead of trying to make a great comic book super hero movie, they would try to just make a great movie. they should've just looked at GL as another big budget summer movie and make it great, instead of looking at it as another big budget SUPER HERO movie and follow a certain tried and tested formula, thus, making it SUPER dull.

ninjinturdle: I pretty much was referring to the costumed heroes with capes. They're too easily seen as something that's just coming back around as a fad. The Graphic Novel and grittier heroes are more movie like anyway.
SPACEDout - 7/2/2011, 9:28 AM
i think superhero movies will run dry within 10 years, but as for comic movies i don't think so. There are plenty of comic properties that aren't superheroes that would make great movies. But superheroes need a break.
Moonwalker1991 - 7/2/2011, 9:36 AM
Hopefully within 10 years we'll get a decent Super-man film. But I doubt it.

Nolan's been on that a while now with Zack Snyder:
*Christopher Nolan co-wrote the story with David Goyer, as well as being appointed one of the producers involved in the film, and has final say on casting.

*http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770828/faq#.2.1.16
SFCamerica - 7/2/2011, 1:14 PM
I think you should learn how to put sentences together before you write about something that is beyond your comprehension. Or was that just me?

ninjinturdle: no, pretty much everyone but WesleyGibson seems to believe they're beyond my comprehension, smartass

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REMIMARKS - 7/2/2011, 4:30 PM
Hard to say comic book movies are like what martial arts movies used to be back in the 1980s, its what people want to see. So who knows? As long as Decent comic book movies are made, we'll definitely see more.

ninjinturdle: the kung fu&western references where to the way many of the films were being made back in them days. Like now with the ComicBookMovies. So, yes.
abw2 - 7/2/2011, 7:10 PM

@REMIMARKS: Hey I was going to say that (almost) exact same thing myself. P :)

SpiderFan35 - 7/3/2011, 12:47 AM
Nope because the world's gonna end in 2012 so enjoy next year's CBMs my fellow fans, they will be our last!!!!

Just kidding. Of course there will be CBMs in 10 years, sheesh. Man, slow news day.

ninjinturdle: man, took long enough.

He's right though, what's heaven without ComicBookMovies anyway?
tripttwe - 7/3/2011, 12:59 AM
I thought about this question for a while and decided to respond with this:

It is possible for CBMs to fail or flourish at this point. The trick to making it work is taking it to the same level that inspires us as comic fans to read the books. If Hollywood deducts the commercial, franchise, fast-food,formula from the equation and give us solid stories that focus solely on character building, depth, and exciting visuals it will be fine.
Take a movie like SALT. I've said it before, but I think it would've been great to see that story as a BLACK WIDOW movie. It had great pacing, twists and turns throughout the film, and she was a Russian agent! The same tone should be applied when dealing with characters with superhuman abilities. The magic happens when you stay as true to the character/comic history as possible, all the while bringing complex situations grounded in a real world. We also have to care about them and believe that they care about what they're doing.
Furthermore, I also think the studios should up the ante on the threats that enemies bring. Make the bad guys motive seem justifiable to the villain (or villains) with a skewed sense of logic and rationale that separates them from their counterpart.
TDK's Joker: Flawless.
Unbreakable's "Mr. Glass": Great.
The story is the point. Cutting corners on it will ultimately knock down the Jenga tower (so to speak), but if done properly, the magic could continue for generations to come.
My desire is to see the Marvel U as a whole under the Marvel flag. So things like Secret Wars, Infinity Gauntlet, Civil War/ Secret Invasion and many other Marvel stories happen. They need to make an agreement and get this Marvel/ Fox/ Sony BS situated before it becomes something the fans no longer care about, and make whoever's writing these stories take an exam on the hero before jotting down one line. If they put love into what we love, we'll put money down for the product and keep coming for more! My thoughts...

ninjinturdle: I hope the Holooywood execs read this one!
tripttwe - 7/3/2011, 1:03 AM
@ SuspenseSmith- I think they got tired of Green Lantern fast because it sucked a$$. IT is 101 on what NOT to do with an Iconic character. Green Hornet didn't even count to me. Put a comedian in a hero's shoes and I can almost guarantee instant failure...

ninjinturdle: again, this guy nails it! The comic to hero transformation worked with the mask for obvious reasons(not the sequel) and so did Hannibal King and the Deadpool before his mutilation, just not when he was made to look like a surprised dumbass with that clueless look on his damned face. I'm assuming you read my GL review too?
ninjinturdle - 7/3/2011, 7:41 PM
for as shitty as this article was written, the comments keep a comin' and that's what this is for, discussion. That and some ridiculous shit from a few of these characters.

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