Avengers Sequel Idea: Ultron and Civil War

My idea for the sequel to this year's big comic book blockbuster

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By rockerdude22 - 8/20/2012
This year, we as fans we're lucky to witness one of the greatest comic book teams finally assemble on screen: The Avengers! The film was a smash hit with both critics and audiences, and also went on to become the third highest grossing film of all time! Personally, it was my favorite CBM this year (all other ones, not including Ghost Rider: SOV (Yuck!), we're solid as well).

A sequel was announced not to long after breaking box-office records. The sequel was recently announced as being released on May 1st, 2015. With three years away, many fans will surely speculate what could happen in the sequel until the day it's released and we get to see for ourselves. Until then, we have Marvel's entire Phase 2 slate of films to hold us off!

Anyway, let's get to the point of this little article of mine! Now, many people have speculated that the Mad Titan himself, Thanos will be the main villain in the sequel, due to his appearance in the mid-credits sequence of the first film.



Now, while Thanos is my favorite comic book villain, and I can't wait to see him in full on mode on the big screen, I think they should wait to make him the villain in Part 3. Why do I think this, you ask? Well, according to Avengers writer/director Joss Whedon, he said that he would like to make the sequel smaller and more personal in tone from the first film. Unfortunately, Thanos is too big of a villain for a film of that tone. How could it play out? Well, I myself came up with an idea for the sequel that I think could fit in with Joss' idea (which I love!) and could make for an awesome film! Anyway, here it is:

* The film would have the main villain be Ultron, with elements of Civil War intact.





* At this point in time, other heroes, such as Hank Pym, will have been introduced into the MCU.

* Here's how I would imagine the plotline would go:

- Hank is working on Ultron near the beginning of the film.

- The government makes a statement that they want to pass the Superhuman Registration Act

- Some of the heroes are for the idea and some are against it.

- This leads to tension between the heroes and the creation of the Pro-Registration Side (led by Iron Man) and the Anti-Registration Side (led by Cap).

- Throughout the course of the film, the two sides duke it out. Some of the heroes are being torn apart inside, due to some of them fighting their own comrades.

- At some point, Ultron is activated and goes rogue, seeking to destroy humanity.

- Once all the heroes see what Ultron is going to do, they decide to set aside this conflict and work together to take down Ultron.

- Eventually, the heroes defeat Ultron and save the world once again.

- The thing with Ultron leads to all the heroes making up with each other and stop fighting over the SRA.

* That's the basic plotline, but I also had a side idea as well

- Since most people would expect Thanos to be involved, I though of this. Maybe Thanos is secretly the one who caused Ultron to go rogue. He does this as a way to distract the Earth heroes while he secretly looks for something on Earth (maybe an Infinity Gem) or secretly sets up an invasion.

EDIT: * I actually did some thinking, and if not Ultron and Civil War, then I think the film should be Ultron and the Masters of Evil. That could actually be easier to do.

Anyway, that's my basic idea for The Avengers sequel. What do you guys think? Do you like it? Not like it? Have any ideas that could make it better? Comment below and share your thoughts! Peace!

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MisterNiceGuy - 8/20/2012, 1:54 PM
they prety much gave this idea a head start with the whole brawl in the woods. i think your onto something. but a hero needs to die. but who? and it needs to be more dramatic than the coulsen thing
BarnaclePete - 8/20/2012, 1:56 PM
Am I the only one tat doesn't want to see the heroes fighting themselves? It was my least favorite stuff in The Avengers. Just seems like such a cheap and easy thing to do. I'd rather something more original.
MisterNiceGuy - 8/20/2012, 1:57 PM
^but its straight from the comics
MisterNiceGuy - 8/20/2012, 2:01 PM
i could also see them taking parts from the destroyer to make ultron. kinda like the gun they made.
GoILL - 8/20/2012, 2:02 PM
Sounds like a good idea.
BattlinMurdock - 8/20/2012, 2:02 PM
This isn't just "heroes" fighting, though. It's not a competition; they're fighting for their politics and rights. Everything is justified. I'd eventually like to see Civil War done.

The marketing for the film, alone, would be absolutely incredible. Asking people to pick their sides, etc. etc...
MisterNiceGuy - 8/20/2012, 2:05 PM
i would be on Caps side for sure
koolaidbag - 8/20/2012, 2:24 PM
I feel that's to much for one film. They should do ultron in the sequel and then civil war would have to be its own film or two and cap has to die in it, because it would the the greatest lose and filled with emotion and drama
ElChavo - 8/20/2012, 2:25 PM
I agree with Cap a little more, but dammit, Iron Man is my favorite superhero! Decisions, decisions...

Great article, like the idea
rockerdude22 - 8/20/2012, 2:28 PM
@ElChavo Thanks! Glad you like it!
dezdigi - 8/20/2012, 2:38 PM
I want to see Ultron in the second film but I don't know if I'm ready to see a Civil War story line yet. Perhaps if they slowly build up to this during Phase 2, or save it for a third film.
calin88 - 8/20/2012, 2:46 PM
They don't own the right characters for Civil War, Hawk-eye, Widow and Stark are not even superhuman, only Thor, Hulk and Cap, let's face it, if Hulk and Thor team up against the SRA, it's game over for everyone
DrDoom - 8/20/2012, 3:01 PM
Civil War should be saved for Phase Four or Five.
Oxbow - 8/20/2012, 3:25 PM
hm i wonder what the civil war stuff on the avengers blu-ray is now..
andrew991116 - 8/20/2012, 3:27 PM
It's to early to introduce Civil War to the MCU, we don't have enough characters to make a good "war". Now with the fact that Marvel got DD back, we can expect Marvel to get more characters back, then they can make a Civil War movie.
TankD - 8/20/2012, 3:38 PM
Im sorry but civil war will never happen in the films their might be elements of it. But never the full story. Now Thanos? hes going to be in the avengers 2 im pretty sure the reason why theres talk of the the other coming back for thor 2 and thanos being setup in guardians means that he will have enough time to be developed by AV2. the movie can still be personal and on a smaller scale and involve thanos. you never know he could be talking about less locations and more green screen for the space locations. ya never know.
RedHood13 - 8/20/2012, 4:20 PM
If they introduced more hero's then I think it would work
OdinsBeard - 8/20/2012, 4:27 PM
i have a few problems with the Civil War story line making it into the movies - mainly that i don't want to see the heroes fighting each other when there will probably only be 3 avengers movies, i do agree Ultron should be the villain for #2 and Thanos for #3. there will be plenty of tension already between the teammates, i don't want a whole movie's worth of it because thats time taken away from Ultron/Thanos.

Also, the movie version of Tony Stark would be so against the registration act it's not even funny. Do i have to mention the court hearing in IM2? that entire movie was about him not wanting to work for the government. Plus Cap currently works with SHIELD. so to bring up the civil war now in the MCU would result in a lot of force-fitting things into places they don't belong yet.

and the third reason they shouldn't do civil war is there's just no reason for it yet. there's only what? 6 super heroes? 2 of which already worked for Shield, 1 does now, another lives in a separate realm, and stark has already voiced his opinion on working solely for them. and the last avenger is always on the run from the government anyway and you can use his character to explore the theme of "too much power and who should control it" - so lack of actual super heroes is the main reason the government shouldn't be forcing them to actually do anything.

i'm not saying it couldn't work later on but right now it would just be a jumbled mess that only comic fans want to see. personally i'd rather see something new then clamor for spot-on adaptations of stories we've already seen.
rockerdude22 - 8/20/2012, 5:03 PM
@cipher Thanks, dude! Have a beer on me!

I actually did some thinking, and I think another good sequel storyline would be Masters of Evil, led by Ultron. That could actually be easier to put to screen than Civil War.
rockerdude22 - 8/20/2012, 5:30 PM
@cipher Cheers, bro!
CorndogBurglar - 8/20/2012, 7:28 PM
Way too early for civil war
DaRaginScotsman - 8/20/2012, 8:17 PM
^What he said.
TayDee - 8/21/2012, 6:59 PM
Ultron should be saved for the 3rd Avengers film
CoulsonLives - 8/22/2012, 1:58 AM
I think Cap might die since that is one of the most powerful deaths in comicbooks... Why not use it :)
dezdigi - 8/24/2012, 12:22 PM
Actually, I was thinking, if they wanted to use elements of Civil War, they could have an Avengers vs Shield story. Shield may want the heroes to all work for them, or whatever, and create Ultron as a response.
Ultron goes berzerko and the Avengers have to save the day.

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