Ror Revisits: Iron Man

Widely regarded as one of the best CBMs we have had so far. Does John Favreu and Robert Downey Jr's first foray into super hero territory deserve that accolade? Click for my take..

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By Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy - 3/25/2011
I never liked Iron Man as a character. He just never interested me. In fairness, I probably never gave him enough of a chance, he was just that one character that I tended to avoid. I did like him as part of The Avengers but his solo stuff, nah, not my cup of tea. So when I heard that a movie was in the works I wasn't particularly excited. But then they cast Robert Downey Jr in the lead role and that made me pay attention. I thought it was an inspired choice. Then came the trailer and I was sold. But I honestly never expected to enjoy the movie so much when I actually sat down to watch it.



RDJ is excellent as Tony Stark, a selfish playboy war profiteer who comes to see the error of his ways after a stint in an Afghan prison and some nice new hardware keeping his heart ticking away. But even though Stark does become a hero, he crucially retains his arrogance and slightly assholish demeanour throughout. Downey is supported amply by Gweneth Paltrow as his assistant and love interest Pepper Potts. Their rapid fire back and forths could have been annoying with different actors and a different script(and ARE in the sequel) but their chemistry wins out and it's not over done(again, not so lucky with the sequel). Terrence Howard is decent as Stark's best pal James "Rhodey" future War Machine. But his role is under written and clearly set up for a sequel. And then there is Jeff Bridges, a man incapable of giving a bad performance imo, but his role as the villain here is one of the movies faults. Not exactly the character himself, just the need to use him as they do. I realize every movie like this needs an antagonist but it just works better while Stark is off setting the world to rights and coming to terms with his own responsibilities. Bridges' Obadiah Stane(Iron Monger) is used very effectively at first and even when he reveals his true colors(the scene in which he removes Stark's Arc Reactor from his chest is a corker) it's all good, but then when he puts on his much bigger and meaner armor it just becomes 2 cgi dudes punching each other and sort of descends into a fairly standard girl in distress CBM finale. Which is fine, and many wont care. I just thought that the movie could have benefited with a bit more thought put into the ending to go along with the impressively character driven first acts. The action scenes are handled very well. Exciting and at times surprisingly violent. A highlight is most certainly Stark's first mission as he takes out a few nasty foreign gents who are terrorizing a village. They also serve the story and not the other way around and the special effects are almost flawless.

Iron Man marked something of a departure for John Favreau, who up until that had directed two children's adventure films(Elf and Zathura) and his directorial début, the fairly rubbish Made). But it turns out he was the perfect man for the job, brining the fun and adventure from his earlier films but upping the action and sense of danger a few notches. The tone is pretty spot on throughout. Favreau isn't aiming for anything dark or deep here. There are some dramatic moments and themes of redemption(along with an anti-war slant if you're looking for it) but basically Iron Man is just a hugely entertaining action flick with seamless special effects. And that is no bad thing. It carries a PG-13 rating but does not pander to a younger crowd. The characters all behave and speak like adults and the humor in the film is actually funny. A few niggles aside Iron Man deserves it's high standing among CBM fans and is an example of the right way to go about making a comic book movie.

So did Iron man the movie make me a fan of Iron Man the comic character? Well, I still don't read his solo stuff but I do own a couple of Iron Man T-shirts. Progress!



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StrangerX - 3/25/2011, 6:17 AM
Ok so how many time have you watched this movie.
LEEE777 - 3/25/2011, 6:17 AM
Cool review, hats off to you @ ROR!

IRON MAN is an amazing movie... pity about the letdown sequel though!


P.S. I've got no idea how you never liked Iron Man as a character??? He's [frick]ing awesome!

Got a good few hundred comics of his adventures.... fingers crossed for THE VAULT and Armor Wars in 3! : P

Thumbs up man!
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 3/25/2011, 6:25 AM
Not seen one of your world famous "Ror revisits" articles for some time dude. It's good to see it back, and back with a punch I must say! Great review! The movie is one of, if not THE best CBM's to date.
Lert - 3/25/2011, 6:28 AM
We all know who owns that torch but I dont want to get a Marvel "dog-pile"! I will put it as number 2 though which aint too shabby!
MrSuperheromoviefan - 3/25/2011, 6:35 AM
Indeed the right way to do a movie.
MovieTheaterLad - 3/25/2011, 6:38 AM
I find it hillarious how eeryone gets mad at the differences in the X-Men movies but nobody go mad at the boatload of differences made in Iron Man.
SupermansBeard - 3/25/2011, 6:38 AM
I don't dislike Iron Man 2...I actually like it pretty good, I do think it had more flaws than the last movie, and was a little less realistic aka more comic bookish (i.e. Iron Man sitting in a donut, Iron Man and War Machine's little fight with all of the Hammer-oids lol. I think what saved the movie though was, 1. You already have fallen in love with the actors, 2. The action scenes were pleasant to watch, and 3. You know it's leading up to the Avengers. At first I was upset when Jon Favreu quit Iron Man, but now that I think about it, I'm glad to see him gone if RDJ and he aren't getting along, it also prohibits Iron Man 3 from trying to do what Iron Man 2 did...copy itself. Anyways, here's to Mickey Rourke, Sam Rockwell, and kinda Scarlett Johannson. The first two did awesome jobs acting, Johannson was hot and her coreography was much better than what I thought it would be, upset about the lack of Russian in the accent though, and the smart ass personality. My rating for Iron Man (*****) Iron Man 2 (***1/2).
SupermansBeard - 3/25/2011, 6:43 AM
@movietheaterlad lol I know right! I also love how everyone LOVES the original Spider-Man movies but they weren't by the original story at all (other than getting bit and whatnot) no Gwen Stacy, Green Goblin had a helmet (without the mask it lacked his Joker-esque). I don't care for movies to be "original" anymore, it the movie business it can't happen. X-Men still could have been better though.
SupermansBeard - 3/25/2011, 6:43 AM
@Nomis I agree, I would have like to see more fighting and stuff rather than sulking.
SupermansBeard - 3/25/2011, 6:45 AM
@Nomis I agree, I would have like to see more fighting and stuff rather than sulking.
RyKnow - 3/25/2011, 6:56 AM
Good review. I more or less felt the same way; "Oh look, an Iron Man film's coming out. Might check it out" but after I'd seen it I was sucked into Marvel's cinematic Universe (particularly as I watched The Incredible Hulk a couple of months later). The humour was there, the action was flawless (I liked the scene where Iron Man's hanging on to the bottom of that Raptor) and the cast was farly solid.
I won't beat up Iron Man 2 as much as some do, it was good enough to warrant a cinema viewing and the special edition dvd, and Sam Rockwell was great in it, as was Mickey Rourke.
I think in Iron Man 3 they should lay off the formulaic two men in metal suits finale, try something fresh. That was Iron Man 2's only real mistake.
Anyway, great review, looking forward to the next one.

And for the record;
Iron Man; ****1/2
Iron Man 2; ****
SageMode - 3/25/2011, 7:06 AM
I like Iron Man and Iron Man 2 alot. Can't wait to see how part 3 will turn out.
the1egend1ives - 3/25/2011, 7:21 AM
@MovieTheaterLad

Are you kidding me? Iron Man is straight from the comics while the X-Men movies have NOTHING to do with their source material. Fox ignores classic storylines or waters them down into boring plot devices. The characters have no development at all while Wolverine takes the spotlight in every single movie. You simply can't compare the two.
Ryguy88 - 3/25/2011, 7:28 AM
Nice write-up. Iron Man was great, I'd put it on par with the 1st 2 Spiderman films. What was put up on screen was basically executed flawlessly. But, like you said, it lacked plot depth and a had a slightly misused villain. It just didn't push for anything more, but it perfected the genre at which it was aimed. That IMO keeps it out of TDK league.
golden123 - 3/25/2011, 7:32 AM
Ironman seemed like there was only three characters interacting with the story through most of the film. It didn't have the character involvement it should of had. The film seemed almost lonely. Let's face it after the first thirty minutes the only characters who had a role that impacted the plot was the Ironman/Tony Stark, Pepper Potts, and Obadiah/ Iron Monger. Basically the protagonist, the main supporting character, and the antagonist.
the1egend1ives - 3/25/2011, 7:35 AM
@Ryguy88

Even if the Joker was a better villain than Obediah Stane, how can you compare the depth of Bale's Bruce Wayne to that of RDJ's Tony Stark? I think Iron Man's protagonist more than makes up for the lack of memorable villain and puts it in the same league as TDK.
Ryguy88 - 3/25/2011, 7:36 AM
golden, every film has lead actors and supporting actors. I kinda see what you're saying but I don't think it was that big a deal unless you didn't like the characters.
Ryguy88 - 3/25/2011, 7:42 AM
indoraptor, that's a matter of opinion, I like Bale's Batman, better than RDJ's Stark (both were near perfect.) The movies themselves were very different, TDK was an action crime thriller with an intricate plot while IM was a straight forward, by the book action flick. Both were great though, one just pushed for more.
RorMachine - 3/25/2011, 7:46 AM
Cheers guys. Iron Man doesn't quite reach Nolan's Batmans, Watchmen or X-Men 2 for me in the all time greats. Because while leaving out any real depth of story or thought provoking themes is fine when you have such an entertaining film, those movies I mentioned had BOTH. I would put Iron Man on par with Spider-Man 2. But those 4 or 5 movies are right up there as the best we have seen so far imo.
Swanky - 3/25/2011, 7:52 AM
Well done ROR. Ironman was killer. I agreed with your last comment, although I think Spider-man 2 should be right up there. The emotion in that one always gets me ;)
golden123 - 3/25/2011, 7:53 AM
@Ryguy88: I know every film has lead actors and supporting characters, but they could of made Rhodey actually affect the plot and be something more than a "clean up" guy. They could have given that Everheart reporter girl or Happy Hogan a bigger role, or they could have , at least, made the movie shorter so a big cast wasn't as neccessary. Personally I thought that was the biggest fault of the movie although I still like the movie, and I did like those three characters.
marvel72 - 3/25/2011, 8:17 AM
@ rormachine

great reveiw,iron man is definetly the best marvel studios film to date.

also one of the best marvel comic films ever up there with spider-man 2.

thor has the poetential to topple iron man from the top spot.
ClosetNerd - 3/25/2011, 8:43 AM
Favs made "Swingers" before "Made". Swingers was excellent. Yes, Made (the sequel) sucked.
steelrocks - 3/25/2011, 9:22 AM

iron man is, and will be the shit for a long time!
Shaman - 3/25/2011, 9:23 AM
Great write-up as always, Ror! And i entirely agree with your review, especially about Ironman as a character. Never was a fan of him in the books and i probably never will be. But i sure do love him in his flicks! The first Ironman is definitely up in my CBM top 5, but for me, the first "Blade", Brandon Lee's "The Crow" and "V for Vendetta" still outrank it ;)
kirbyfan - 3/25/2011, 9:32 AM
Yes, Iron Man deserves all the accolades it got, it's one of the best superhero movies.

The last Hulk is also very good.

You can go ahead and add The Mighty Thor and Captain America to the list as well.

I'm waiting to see how good Green Lantern really is, I do like the trailer.
RorMachine - 3/25/2011, 9:51 AM
Shamn, where have you been hiding?:) Cheers, and yeah V For Vendetta is up there for me too.

Tea, no email dude. Resend!
loganoneil - 3/25/2011, 9:57 AM
Ror - Agreed, it's not the 'Gone With the Wind' of CBM's, but it's a SOLID piece worthy of benchmark. I am a fan of the comic, and I had no problems with the liberties taken the storyline cannon - the overall plot was solid and well-thought out. The major points were covered and updated to fit the times. If only all CBM's took notes from this film (ahem, 'Wonder Woman' producers, are you lstening?), there'd be a whole lot less complaining from the community and a whole lot more excitement!
the1egend1ives - 3/25/2011, 10:02 AM
Why does everyone love Raimi's Spider-Man movies so much? They were cool when they came out because they were the first of it's kind. But now when I watch the first Spider-Man I feel like I've tuned in to the sci-fi channel. When I watch the second one I feel like I've tuned in to SOAP. And don't even get me started on the third movie. Let's face it, Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy is the reason why half the population thinks Spider-Man is gay. (the musical has done nothing to help this problem.) That's why I'm so excited for the reboot. They look like they're taking the Spider-Man series in an entirely different direction. (The right direction.)
CapFan79 - 3/25/2011, 10:11 AM
@indoraptor12 I agree with you about Spider-Man films. I still like 2 becuase Dr. Ock is done so well (and is the one Raimi wanted for the 1st film). I think Raimi could have made 1 epic Spider-Man if he had his way.

I think Iron Man works so well because the villains are REAL! I mean, terrorists are far more threatening and realistic for an origin story about a weapons manufacturer than say Bullseye or Green Goblin. And Fav didn't make them cartoony neo-Nazi terrorists either. It's the same guys we see on the news.

His suit and technology are also presented in a very plausible way. The sequel is good, but the large amount of Avengers set-up and Whiplash make it a bit more cartoony. I prefer the subtle nods like in Hulk. Showing some missles with the Stark logo, referencing the "super serum" and a cameo of RDJ is enough.
Shaman - 3/25/2011, 10:39 AM
Ror- Well, i just been working on my art and soon to be (not so soon) comic. So it takes a lot of my time. I come by to read the news every now and then and maybe even shoot a comment or two. Tell ya the truth though, the whole film debating is getting old since every damn conversation seems to repeat itself with new blood, so i guess it doesn't pull me in as much anymore. A bit of a case of "been there, done that, already know where it's going and how it'll end" kinda thing ;)

Here's an argument in favor of the power ranger goblin, if you can deal with Batman wearing black metal padding in the films but not the books, then surely you can deal with Gobby not having a rubbery goblin face. At least enough for it not to be the main cause why it ruins the whole damn movie for you. IMO, the Raimi Spidey films went downhill from the first which i enjoyed enough to call a good film(but not great). Second one had good action but a mediocre plot for my taste. Any hero loosing his powers, regardless why and what for, ends it for me. Especially when better plot points "should" be found right around the corner of your mind.

I guess that's also why i prefer Spidey to have organic webbing from his veins. I [frick]ing hate having him run out of it to make his fights more "interesting" to the people that enjoy that sorta thing. And i don't care if it helps his character development. If you need that to develop your character, well there's definitely a lack somewhere isn't there?

But that's it, i'm not getting into it any further. :P
beenhereb4uall - 3/25/2011, 12:08 PM
PANDERING, PANDERING, I SAY. ROR YOU IS A PANDERER DOUCHE...ITS A SAD AFFAIR WHEN THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS SITE WITH ANYONE KIND OF OPINION AS NONE. ROR U KNOW BETTER. STOP DRINKING GALACTUS B.S. KOOLAID.

MY MOMMY TOLD ME TO SPEAK ALWAYS IC CAPS COS THEN PEOPLE LISTEN TO YO IGNNINT ASS. ME IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN COUSINS MARRY
Spectre94 - 3/25/2011, 12:49 PM
Loved Iron Man. Definitely best movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe so far. Iron Man 2 wasn't as good, but was still fairly entertaining :)
AsianAvenger - 3/25/2011, 1:23 PM
IT SHOULD GET A 5!!!
SweetTooth316 - 3/25/2011, 2:08 PM
niggles?
chuckg313 - 3/25/2011, 3:00 PM
I agree with Ror, the ending of Iron man 1 shouldve been better that last fight scene was lame and poorly choreographed. I hardly enjoyed Iron man 2 at all,it made Tony look stupid.Sitting in a doughnut, peeing in his suit, and he supposedly privatized world peace? B.S also Iron Man franchise needs to do better action scenes the robot fighting is boring its time to see something different and imaginative.
soberchimera - 3/25/2011, 3:11 PM
It was a decent movie, never been much of an Iron Man enthusiast and this film didn't exacty change my opinion of the character, but hats off to Faverau for sucessfully introducing him to mainstream audiences. It's a shame he wasn't able to expand off that success in the sequel. Hopefully Shane Black can pick up the pieces and make something awesome.
DeathAdder - 3/25/2011, 3:13 PM
IM was greatness although it lacked in the action sequences.

Part 2, ugh where do I start? I really liked part 2 still better than most garbage put out there but it could've been better A LOT better.

First they should NOT have added War Machine. Superhero tag team movies never work, his subplot took away from Tony, Vanko and Hammer. I mean Vanko had what two or three scenes?

The action. That sucked. Again going back to WM not belonging in the movie, that play fight he had with Tony at the bday party shoulve been Whiplash crashing the party causing damage, kicking drunk Tonys ass and putting people in danger. There was no sense of danger for anyone and Tony didn't learn anything about his actions and what it means to be a superhero.

Whiplash, sevearly underused. Instead of focusing on him going toe to toe with Tony with armor upgrades and who's smarter he gets hired by Hammer only to disappear for 1/3 of the movie. The best scene in the whole movie was the Tony/Ivan jail scene, a few more would've been epic.

Another reason why War Machine shouldn't have been used, both suits that Legacy Studios did, the sfx, the promotion and the scenes should've gone to Whiplash and some more upgrades. Instead we got a shirtless Whiplash and a bland, generic grey suit at the end that didn't even get an action figure and most don't even remember what it looks like.

Happy Hogan, I liked the nod to the comics when he saved Tony at the racetrack, but did he really need a fight scene and him smiling all the time? He didn't even seem like Happy anymore it was more Favreau. Same with Fury.

Pepper whining most of the movie, nuff said.

Too many damn jokes and not enough serious moments. It felt out of place when Tony and Vanko met at the jail cell because it was a serious moment and Tony wasn't joking.

How to fix part 3?

Drop everyone trying to play hero, just keep Iron Man.
Make the villain a threat not a joke.
Have jokes but not every scene needs one.
Stop having Pepper nag all the time, she was at her best in part one, go back to that.
MORE epic action. Play fights don't cut it, one minute fights don't cut it, Iron Man getting chased yet again doesn't cut it. Show what that suit can do in a full on battle.

Hopefully Shane Black can deliver after Favreau dropping the ball.
EvilEd2000 - 3/25/2011, 3:14 PM
first iron man was good solid throughout fun popcorn movie. if you removed all the good parts from transformers 2 it would on par with iron man 2.
gaikinger - 3/25/2011, 8:13 PM
no one addressed the Ror dont read Iron Man solo stuff comment. I'll tell you from me that you are missing out big time.
MovieTheaterLad - 3/25/2011, 8:42 PM
@Indoraptor

Are you kidding me? Iron Man is straight from the comics

-Tony's armor looks nothing like the one he had following the original grey one, gold one, or any others up until the Extremis storyline.
-The Extremis storyline was changed.
-He didn't have an already bad heart in the movie.
-Yensin was Arabic instead of Asian.
-The Ten Rings were a terrorist organization rather than weapons used by the Mandarin.
-Obidiah Stane was not Iron man's first villain.
-Stane killed himself in the comics.
-Whiplash was not Russian.
-Whiplash never got a full armor suit.
-He never had tattoos.
-He never had long hair.
-He never was Russian.
-He never had a "burd".
-Justin hammer was MUCH older in the comics.

Straight from the comics, indeed.

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