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Tobey Maguire Talks Spider-Man 4 Villains

No, he doesn't say who they are! Just who he likes...and the Lizard is top of his list.

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By Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy - 11/23/2009
In a recent MTV fan vote, The Lizard topped the poll as the villain most wanted for the fourth Spidey movie. With Carnage coming second, and Mysterio third(who the hell was voting!). Anyway, in an interview with MTV, Tobey Maguire talks about these choices..



"I'm more familiar with Lizard and Mysterio, and I don't know -- I like them as villains," said Maguire. "I think they're great, and Lizard obviously has a very personal relationship with Peter Parker, so we often will go towards that kind of stuff."

"I'm not that familiar with Carnage," the actor explained. "I'm aware of Carnage, but I know Sam was sort of a fan of the early Spider-Man comics, and Carnage comes much later."

It has to be the Lizard! Doesn't it?
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Upupandaway - 11/23/2009, 7:11 PM
He does seem to be hinting at that, but he has nothing to do with the script. Oh, this is my first first. I don't know what's going on with this movie. I'm not worried though. Lot's of good things coming out besides this.
LEEE777 - 11/23/2009, 7:13 PM
Great stuff @ ROR!!

LIZARD all the way!!

And NO to CARNAGE he's perfect for the VENOM spin off!

Oh an hell yeah to MYSTERIO!!! ; )
peterparker420 - 11/23/2009, 7:13 PM
I'm down with The Lizard..it makes sense to me,
Curt Conners has been in the last two Spider-Man
movies so I think it will work. Throw a little
twist of Kraven in the mix and we got ourselves
a Spider-Man 4!!
Batmanknight - 11/23/2009, 7:19 PM
I hope its Lizard and Kraven. And if not them then Electro and Mysterio(not together)

I think out of all the awesome cbms coming out that year, this one will be very much dominated.
RorMachine - 11/23/2009, 7:20 PM
Cheers Leee. I really [frick]ing hate Mysterio..and im not a big fan of Carnage either for that matter! Lizard, yes, Kraven..not so much, but he could work with The Lizard..Black Cat I like, Vulture..meh, Scorpion, deffo, Shocker..ok, Rhino..maybe, but only a side villain. You know who could be great? Tombstone!
InTylerWeTrust - 11/23/2009, 7:24 PM
Finally, some good news about SM 4!

F*ck yeah to Lizard, save Mysterio for another movie as a side villain.

Lizard and Kraven are the only ways to go!

F*ck Black Catwoman rip-off, f*ck the worst Spidey villain Vulture.

Lizard/Kraven for SM 4

Electro/Scorpion for SM 5
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:24 PM
I remember when Spider-Man 2 came out I was reading an article like this and Tobey said his favorite was Sandman,and look where that led up to.

So Lizard or Mysterio have got 2 be villians.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:27 PM
Tyler@I think it should be like this:

Lizard/Scorpion for SM4,lead up to Venom spinoff

Electro/Mysterio for SM5

IMO
LEEE777 - 11/23/2009, 7:27 PM
ROR @ I hate MYSTERIO too lol! But if he had only a cameo in SPIDEY for as the man himself BRUCE CAMPBELL, you gotta admit, that would be cool!!

TOMBSTONE would be a great on film!! SPIDEY or DD he would be good! RHINO would be better off in a HULK movie though a five minute cameo battle getting beaten by SPIDEY in SPIDEY 4 wouyld be [frick]ing amazing!

Hey guess what, my JUDGE DREDD article i did here is linked to SHH's one, how [frick]ing cool it that! ; D
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:32 PM
wouldn't it be funny if tobey just named the two villains, and then he went back stage and laughed that no one knows it. lizard and mysterio, with bruce campbell as mysterio of course, lol
InTylerWeTrust - 11/23/2009, 7:32 PM
Multi: With the crap load of rumors circling around those 2 being the villains, I do sort of believe you, but I hate both characters so much, there's just a sliver of hope left that I have that Raimi won't use them! Don't take what hope I have left man! :_(

J/K, well, sort of :)
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:32 PM
LEEE@I think it'd be cool if on one of MJ's audition for some role,you see Quentin Beck (played by Bruce Campbell of course)
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:33 PM
@ inspace

i don't think electro and mysterio are bad enough to have their own movie. they could both play second string to someone else in separate movies, but electro, though he has cool powers, is always a sissy in the comics. and mysterio is kind of a joke character.
RorMachine - 11/23/2009, 7:35 PM
Well Multi, when his villains are good they are very very good, but when they are bad, they are [frick]ing awful!

Lee, a cameo would be fine but I would hate to see him as a major villain. I mean, he's an illusionist with a fish bowl on his head. Am I missing something here?

Tyler, Black Cat may be a Catwoman rip off, but she has had a few good arcs in the comics and there is an interesting dynamic with Spidey/Parker. But there would nave to be a proper evil bastard villain this time around too...Lizard doesn't even really qualify since he is essentially Dr Jekkyl/ Mr Hyde. Tombstone would fit that part..or Scorpion, could set up Mack Gargon for a new Venom later on too.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:36 PM
Corndog@Yeah I know I just couldnt think of anybody else to pair up with Mysterio

And how is Mysterio a "Joke" Charecter have you seen his recent incarnations
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:37 PM
@ ror

i can see why people might not like mysterio, but early on he was kind of a legitimate threat. anyway, just think how cool they could make his powers look in a movie!! remember bruce campbell's appearance in spidey 2, the one where he's working the door at the theatre? well mysterio's origin is that he was a special effects guy, they could easily say that he rigs the special effects stuff at those shows...and thats how he became mysterio. but yeah, he would be a weak character, at least plot wise.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:39 PM
Ror@Thanks for going the Mac Gargon route

And Black Cat isnt a Catwoman ripoff she came like 10 years earlier,I think
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:39 PM
@ inspace

i just meant that other characters make fun of him all the time like he's some putz, and for a while he was just a putz. although i have to admit, that in kevin smith's daredevil run, Guardian Devil, he was awesome! even though he shot himself in the head...i didn't know he came back since then. but i don't follow spidey comics sooooo...
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:41 PM
man it better not be vulture, i'd rather see anyone other than some old fogey that can fly...scary i know. an old guy with wings is still just an old guy.
InTylerWeTrust - 11/23/2009, 7:41 PM
Ror: She's had some good arcs, but she's so unnecessary at this point in the franchise. All she would do is bring in yet another love-interest for Peter, which is the opposite of what the franchise should be doing. We learned from SM 3 how bad they can f*ck up a love-triangle, I don't want to give them that chance again.

Kraven would be the proper bad guy, since he would be both trying to actually kill Connors, who the audience would sympathize with, and Spidey too, which, needless to say, is bad.

InSpace: Catwoman first appeared in 1940 (give or take a few years), Black Cat came around in the late 70's.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:41 PM
Corndog@Yeah he does come off as a lame charecter.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:43 PM
It'd be okay to bring Black Cat in the franchise if she's more of an ally than an enemy.Spidey cant take on all of those villans by himself
InTylerWeTrust - 11/23/2009, 7:45 PM
Multi: What loose ends though? I can't think of any off the top of my head. The movie may have been sh*t, but SM 3 tied up most of the loose ends of the franchise. They killed off Harry and Venom, Peter and MJ are back together, Sandman walked off into the sunset (metaphorically speaking), Harry forgave Peter before he died, etc.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:45 PM
Tyler@Well technically she was called the CAT but whatever,
RorMachine - 11/23/2009, 7:46 PM
Well, I can't comment on Mysterio's latest work because like CDB, I haven't been keeping up to date with Spidey, but back in the day, he was a dick!

Multi, you mean your not into it? Or you wish you read it sooner?

Larry David for VUlture!:)

Was Spider Man 3 really shit? I mean reeeeally SHIT? I don't think so, I enjoyed some elements of it. I think it gets written off as a complete failure because people can't forget the emo dance/Venom stuff..which were crap, but what about the cool stuff? Parker and harry's scrap when he gets half his face blown off..that was awesome I thought. The Sandman's transformation..the Gwen Stacy skyscraper rescue..It wasn't all bad
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:49 PM
@ multi

you want to see a new spidey movie with no villains?? both goblins are dead, doc ock is dead, and sandman quit being a bad guy. who else is there to be a villain??
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:50 PM
@ ror

as bad as everyone talks about spidey 3, it was no where near as bad as both FF movies or ghost rider.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:50 PM
Corndog@Well theres Aunt May,she keeps c*ckblocking
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:51 PM
@ multi

no, but you said no NEW villains, and i made the point that the only bad guy still alive is sandman, who stopped being a bad guy.
rushx5 - 11/23/2009, 7:53 PM
I really hate black cat. Any other villian will be fine with me.
peterparker420 - 11/23/2009, 7:54 PM
InTylerWeTrust- I'm with you on this one!

multi- there has to be new villians, I know there is alot of loose ends to tie up, but spidey needs a new
foe to face!

CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 7:54 PM
brazilianbatman is an asshole.

@ inspace, yeah she does block the "C" a lot. but damn she makes some good cookies!
InTylerWeTrust - 11/23/2009, 7:54 PM
Multi: Gwen doesn't really apply to specifically villains, which is what I'm talking about.

Osbourne is dead, it's not "when" the bring him back, but if. They sort of closed off the Goblin (at least Green Goblin)/Osbourne thread with Harry's death.

Doc Ock is DEAD. He has long, metal tentacles, but do you expect him to survive a miniature SUN collapsing directly on top of him? Or falling deep into the water into the blackness, with the tentacle lights metaphorically flickering out?

The symbiote in Doc Connors' lab is the one I'll give you. That is a loose end.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 7:56 PM
Corndog@LOL!
Tobuttica - 11/23/2009, 7:56 PM
I'd rather see Electro and/or Lizard than any other villains.
RorMachine - 11/23/2009, 7:57 PM
Its something special eh Multi? The Sandman is still the greatest comic I have ever read..bar none. Gaimen is a genius. The art in the early ones isn't the may west though. You see the Golden Age Sandman is going to be in Smallville?

Ock and GG could both come back..probably won't though. Hell anyone could come back! Its Spider Man. How many time shave characters died and been resurrected in those comics over the years?
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 8:00 PM
brazilianbatman@Dude he's 34
JoshWilding - 11/23/2009, 8:01 PM
I would be happy to see Vulture/Black Cat in the next movie just as much as I'd be happy to see Kraven/Lizard or Scorpion/Electro! I dont want Carnage, Morbius or any other lame villain, I'll be pleased with any of the classic Spider-Man villains!

MULTI: As much as I want to see Osborn return and like the sound of your idea, I would much prefer to see some new villains instead of bringing back the old ones! :)
peterparker420 - 11/23/2009, 8:02 PM
What am I taking about?! there is no loose ends
besides the symbiote in conners lab.
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 8:03 PM
he's 34 but LOOKS a lot younger.
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 8:05 PM
joshw24@How is Carnage Lame?

He's a serial killer with a symbiote.

thats sounds awesome to me
CorndogBurglar - 11/23/2009, 8:08 PM
@ tyler

i know what you mean man, i seriously don't get how so many people question if doc ock is alive, its so funny. people complain that he shouldn't have been able to take a punch from spidey (which we all know, spidey always pulls his punches when fighting a normal person) but they'll totally believe that he could survive a sun falling on him...and drowning. never mind the lights twinkling out of existence like you said, to symbolize that he died.

"oh, but there was that newspaper that said, doc ock still at large" in spidey 3. well newspapers do that with best selling headline papers. they frame them and put them on the wall. lol
JoshWilding - 11/23/2009, 8:09 PM
InSpace: The character isnt lame as such but he'd be a lame choice of a villain for Spider-Man 4 IMO! Save him for the Venom spin-off! :P I cant see them choosing Carnage anyway - Raimi didnt even want to use Venom and the character hasnt been in a comic book for years - hell, Amazing Spider-Man editor Stephen Wacker has said he's not a fan of bringing the character back any time soon! I just want tosee one of the classic villains next time!
peterparker420 - 11/23/2009, 8:09 PM
sorry JOSH but I have to agree with InSpace on this
one, also CARNAGE would go better in the venom movie
peterparker420 - 11/23/2009, 8:11 PM
JOSH- well in that case I'm with you! LOL
CARNAGE IS FOR VENOM MOVIE!!
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 8:14 PM
joshw24@Oh,yeah he would be better for a Venom film.

brazilianbatman@Dude you just said it was pathethic to have him as Spidey,it should be his last film,and that he looks like the Vulture.And now you like him.Sry dude but Youre an asshole.
InTylerWeTrust - 11/23/2009, 8:14 PM
Corndog: Exactly! So, if Doc Ock shouldn't be able to take a punch from Spidey without getting knocked down, he is supposed to survive being drowned, by a freaking sun?!
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 8:20 PM
braziliaznbatman@So you want them to change Tobey in the middle of a franchise for another actor for the last 2 films.Dude that does not make sense.
RockNRollCC - 11/23/2009, 8:20 PM
i wanna see this happen (it probably won't tho):

Spider Man 4:
-peter parker is getting over th fact that MJ "is thru with love"(song she sings @ end uv SM3). mabye we wont have to see her in this movie! (i doubt it tho)

-mysterio (bruce cambell) comes into the scene and spide has to face him.

-dr connors is trying to create a serum to bring his arm back. Thus, he duz, and becomes the Lizard.

-have spidey still facing mysterio and introduce the Lizard into battle around half the movie. have lizard + mysterio get away.

-end battles: spidey fights and finally defeats mysterio, and goes after lizard. faces lizard, to which he changes back to Dr Connors (make him say "I'm a Monster" or sumthin like that). THEN have him transform back into Lizard and make him escape, leaving spidey to follow him onto the next movie.

-Leave the end with a glimpse of Kraven to show he will be the next villian.

Spider Man 5:
-Spider Man still faces lizard, along with Kraven. Have at end Spidey and kraven team up to take down lizard once and for all. Somewhere in this movie, introduce felicia hardy and have her become black cat 4 Spider Man 6. also (alright, whatever), have Peter and MJ get married

Spider Man 6
-BRING IN CARNAGE!
-HAVE THIS RATED R!!! (doubt it.)
-Spider Man faces black cat about 1/4 way through.
-Carnage is introduced (would be cool to have slight history of Cassidy in begining.)
-Have in final battle, Spidey and Cat team up to defeat Carnage. Black cat is viciously murdered by Carnage (and i mean BLOOD AND GORE!). Spidey stops carnage, destroys the symbiote, comes back to MJ, and has a daughter. END (finally)

-(Cassidy is put in mental institute, while 1 piece of symbiote remains. the rest of Dr Connors' symbiote is kept in highly secured labrotory facility. have this lead into venom movie, but idk how ther gonna hav a better eddie brock wen th eric forman one exploded in SM3. mabye have him resurected?)

probably not, but that would be cool, wouldn't it. any thoughts? anyone?...
InSpace - 11/23/2009, 8:26 PM
Multi@Yeah but he still could have drowned.
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