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Brett Ratner Doesn't Want To Return To The "X Men" Movies. Awwwww!

And we really wanted him to have another stab at it too! The "X Men: Last Stand" Director tells MTV his feeling on returning to the franchise..
Brett Ratner definitely made an impression with the 3rd movie in the X Men series, but not necessarily a good one! MTV asked him if he would ever consider returning to the franchise..

"The thing with the 'X-Men' universe is, I feel like I've already done it, Certain things I would go after, and certain things only if the script is great."

According to Ratner, some of those projects he'd be interested in as both a filmmaker and fan include the oft-mentioned "X-Men Origins: Magneto" and "X-Men: First Class."

"I heard a rumor that they were going to do a young 'X-Men,' which would be great," he said of "First Class." "I would love to see a 'Magneto' movie personally, because I love the Holocaust backstory. I'd love to see a 'Storm' movie, too."

Even though Ratner enjoyed the Hugh Jackman-starring "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," he wasn't as certain of some of the other "X-Men" spin-offs, such as the Ryan Reynolds-headlining "Deadpool" movie.

"Deadpool? I don't know," he said. "That would depend on the script."

But even if Ratner's return is highly unlikely, he still has his preference as to who should take over..

"I'd love to see [Steven] Spielberg do it," Ratner said. "A Spielberg 'X-Men' movie would be something I'd love to see."

Me too! That would be something.

I didn't even think X3 was as bad as people make out, it was certainly the weakest of the 3, focusing too much on action and neglecting little things like plot and character development that the previous movies did so well. But not a complete disaster i felt.
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RorMachine
8/3/2009
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93 Comments

Good ridence!This man ruined the xmen film series with his sad attempt.He should NEVER I REPEAT NEVER DIRECT ANOTHER COMIC BOOK MOVIE AGAIN!
Ozymandias - 8/3/2009, 6:15 PM
complete freaking tool
ComicChic - 8/3/2009, 6:37 PM
Brett Ratner is a douche bag. He should direct a movie starring Kirsten Dunst, Kristen Bell, and Dakota Fanning. They will call it The Douche Bag Club.
LaffaTaffa - 8/3/2009, 6:41 PM
"I'd love to see [Steven] Spielberg do it," Ratner said. "A Spielberg 'X-Men' movie would be something I'd love to see."

who wouldnt want a Spielberg xmen movie, thanks for stating the obvious....douche
Cape - 8/3/2009, 6:46 PM
Please someone dedunk this! X men 3 was the best comicbook movie since howard the duck. If this is true i just will not be able to go on. I will drown myself
ewoksoup - 8/3/2009, 6:51 PM
Guys im not defending Ratner, and i think he comes across like a bit of a tool myself, but X3's shortcomings were not entirely his fault. Even Spielberg wouldn't have been able to do jack with that woeful script. And he did pull a couple of good action scenes out of the bag.

Still don't want him near another one though!
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 6:51 PM
X3 was SUCH a dissapointment. He probably would have ruined Superman Returns (not that it was the best) if he had directed it like he was originally supposed to.
KillerOfSaints - 8/3/2009, 7:01 PM
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Ozymandias - 8/3/2009, 7:03 PM
Brett Ratners pick for Captain America is Chris Tucker
ewoksoup - 8/3/2009, 7:12 PM
X3 was bad... Script and all. He knows he blew it and now he tries to be cool about it. He should have admitted the all hate mail, bad reviews and all the people who beat him with rolled up X-Men comic books. Hopefully no more comic book movies for him.
animeex - 8/3/2009, 7:15 PM
I live and breathe Marvel and comics in general. Have watched my share of artsy, independent flicks (even Scandanavian art house films)and I enjoyed Ratner's X-Men the most. Sue me, Singer can go cruising with Spacey in Hyde Park at 3 am and claim he's walking his dog, I'd rather have Ratner return to the X franchise.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 7:37 PM
Oh noes!! Whatever will we do? How will we live? How can we ever have another comic book movie now?

Oh... wait ewoksoup already did the sarcasm bit. Well what he said plus one then.

Seriously though I know someone that really really hates that guy now. I think it's obvious that Ratner failed in almost every respect, which was a real blow to a lot of people. I am sure it will haunt him for the rest of his career.
DarthMulder - 8/3/2009, 7:43 PM
I guess Ratner would care, except his X-Men was the largest grossing of all three and received the best reviews of the three.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 7:49 PM
Rat face needs just just quit being a director all together, then we wouldn't have to worry about him ever being connected to another CBM
Osiris - 8/3/2009, 7:58 PM
Thats not true Cheesey1, it may have made the most cash but it received the worst reviews..by far! X2 is critically regarded as one of the best CBMs of all time so i hardy think X3 garnered that type of praise! I enjoyed X3 too, but it should have been much better.
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 7:58 PM
WHAT? NOOOOOOOOO! But I love Brett Ratner. He brought such good character development and a brilliant plot to X3. I so wanted him to come back to do all future X-Men movies and especially the Deadpool movie. He would have done such a good job. X3 was the greatest comic book movie ever, way better than the Dork Knight which was absolute rubbish! I loved how he killed Cyclops off and took away Rogue's powers. It was a great direction for the characters. Brett was brilliant and he should have received an award for best director. Shut up all you haters and you especially Rorschach!

Oh god I feel woozy after all that mega-sarcasm. How the hell does Supermike act like an asshole all of the time? It is hard work! Seriously though, Bratner should not be let near any sort of movie again under pain of death! Ok I will admit the Rush Hour trilogy is a guilty pleasure of mine but the man is a travesty of a human being! Now Im with Rorschach on this one, even though X3 was seriously one of the weakest comic book movies, it wasnt the horrible horrifying mess that some of you make it out to be. It wasnt Marvel's Batman and Robin. It was still a good movie thanks to the awesome cast and but because of Brett and the crappy writers, it could of been a hell of a lot better! I still like it though and please people, stop insulting the movie, insult the director and if you must insult a Marvel movie, insult Elektra because that was horrible!

And how dare he have doubts about the idea of a Deadpool movie! It might be good! Oh and people, remember what you have read, Bratner said Steven Spielberg could direct an X-Men movie! This is like in the Simpsons when Homer says about his dog running with George Bush Sr and he comes out with "he is barking up the wrong bush". However no one heard him say his cleverest thing ever but we have heard Bratner's one sentence of wisdom and that will be it! He is just going to get dumber from now on!

But I really do think that X3 wasnt the worst but I DECREE HERE AND NOW THAT IF RATNER EVER COMES NEAR A COMIC BOOK MOVIE AGAIN, I WANT YOU GUYS TO HELP ME LOCK HIM IN A CAGE WHERE HE CAN LIVE OUT THE REST OF HIS DAYS!

But yeah I think they should get Bryan Singer to direct and X4 and X5 back to back with Apocalypse and Mr Sinster as villains. Then use Bratner's idea of Steven Spielberg to direct a good X-Men prequel trilogy. It would be awesome and it would not become Twilight with mutants which it is in danger of becoming

Oh and Rorschach, keep up the good work, your articles are always great to read!

And I leave you now my friends with this advice:
When you walk down the road of life, dont get into a car with Bratner, he will probably kill you like he did Cyclops. Later, good people!
dancingmonkey08 - 8/3/2009, 8:07 PM
Ror, I beg to differ. The reviews by the mainstream critics were very kind. The most vocal members of fandom obviously disagreed, but I still recall that the mainstream reviews were glowing. Anyway, that's a subjective thing, so que sera sera (ha, I must really be old to be saying things like que sera sera).
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 8:12 PM
Dancingmonkey, I won't even get into a line by line debate, but it's pretty evident that singer emasculated Cyclops in both parts 1 and 2. Any old school X-Men fan should've been disgusted with how he was treated. Cyclops was the cold, calculating, bad ass leader of the X-Men (hand picked by Prof. X) who could destroy a mountain with his optic blast and how did singer portray him...
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 8:16 PM
Well, all i know is that i read about 3 highly regarded movie mags from England and they all gave X3 3 stars while the first 2 received 4 stars.

About Cyclops, i always remember Cyc as being quite a gigantic tool in any comics i read! That's how he was portrayed! I though Singer and Marsden did a really good job with the character. And at least Singer kept him around for the whole movie!
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 8:24 PM
Thanks for the niceties by the way dancingmonkey08!
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 8:26 PM
Ratner is a cockstain, i mean maybe the script was just a big turd and the actors d!cked him over when Singer jumped ship or whatever ..but hes still a cockstain and X3 sucked..i only liked the fight at Jeans house...

...and yea, being a fan of Cyclops i was seriously pissed off with how he was portrayed in all 3 movies...douche in the first, tool(whos barely in the movie) in the second...fires optic tear blasts in the 3rd
Snowjob - 8/3/2009, 8:28 PM
Thank you Jesus...now we can really see what the XMen are like...
ZOtis4 - 8/3/2009, 8:31 PM
Ror, Cyclops and Jean Grey were always regarded as the ultimate mutants in the lore. People like Apocalypse and Magneto liked to claim that they were the pinnacle, but there was always an underlying tone that Cyclops and Phoenix, the Summers family - yes the Summers as in Scott Summers - were the s*hit when it came to Mutants (the whole Sinister, Cable, Madelyne Pryor etc.). Marsden did a nice job, but singer, IMO, put Cyclops in a position which allowed him to be killed off with very little hoopla. As far as film critics in the UK, it's still subjective. My younger bro. still lives in London and is a part time film critic, so just like you and I, they're human.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 8:34 PM
Ratner really couldn't care less what a bunch of people like us have to say and based on the objective criteria, he did a better job than singer.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 8:37 PM
One additional comment, Wolvie was definitely a top tier mutant and the most popular, but in terms of the future of the mutant race, within the Marvel universe, it was all about the Summers family.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 8:41 PM
Yeah but that was the comics! I mean that was 2 very distinct stories of the X Men which none of the movies touched on. Maybe if they had Apocalypse or Sinister in there Scott and Jean would have been more prominent, but the first X movies were always going to focus on Wolverine. And unless you make a 3-4 hour movie, its difficult to juggle so many characters. Thats another reason Ratner [frick]ed up. Rather than flesh out the characters that had already been established and introduced he threw in even more! It was like watching a juggling act by a one armed man. Granted that comes down to the script, but as director he could have made changes were appropriate so he shares the blame.
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 8:57 PM
ZACK SNYDER FOR XMEN 4...THAT GUY WOULD MAKE A BAD ASS XMEN MOVIE, HE CARES ABOUT SOURCE MATERIAL..SURE HE CHANGED THE END OF WATCHMEN, BUT STILL ALLOT OF DETAILS WERE HONORED..300 WAS OFF THE CHAIN.
GUNSMITH - 8/3/2009, 8:58 PM
1. The third one made more than the 1st two by FAR so that says something. Maybe we die hards didn't like it but apparently the general public did. Which whether we like it or not is who these movies are made for.
2. All the people on here saying it had no character development and a shifty plot better nit be the same people defending transformers 2. It's a "popcorn" movie afterall.
3. The script sucked but ratner does take alot of the blame since he was the director.

And in case any of you don't get what I'm saying i got one question for ya.......
Do you understand the words that r comin out of my mouf?
superdog - 8/3/2009, 9:02 PM
i also enjoyed the movie although the douche killed of almost all the frickin characters
AvengingAngel1022 - 8/3/2009, 9:10 PM
Oh Yes! Lets not forget the biggest brain fart of them all, Vinnie Facking Jones as the Juggernaut Bitch!
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 9:15 PM
Would that be the juggernaut who was NOT related to Charles and they had no idea who eachother were? Oh and the same juggernaut that did NOt have a magical helmet? That juggernaut ROR?
superdog - 8/3/2009, 9:20 PM
Ha, ha, surprise, surprise I disagree, 'cause I've always liked Vinne Jones. As they say, he's well hard and that worked perfectly with the Juggie persona. Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, my son. Although I do agree that Charles and Cain Marko not being related sucked, but I blame that on fox.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 9:24 PM
@ Ror, amen to that, what a tool this guy is. I waited for 2 hours in line to watch his pile of crap. In the words of the great Jack Black, someone needs to place a Cleveland steamer in this guys mouth...I vote Bryan Singer.
venom001 - 8/3/2009, 9:26 PM
Funny thing...i had to suffer thru that movie twice with 2 groups of friends and it proved to me just how idiotic it was have that line in there...

first time was all young ppl in the theater..so he's all "Jugg, Bitch" everyone gets it everyone laughs... whatever..

second time..all old ppl...you could here me fart...no one got the joke cause no one in there but me had seen the damn video...
Snowjob - 8/3/2009, 9:28 PM
Why were there old people in X3......was the bucket list sold out?
superdog - 8/3/2009, 9:32 PM
lol hell i guess...it was pretty creepy
Snowjob - 8/3/2009, 9:33 PM
IT WASNT BAD, BUT IT WASNT GOOD EITHER...2 GOOD XMEN MOVIES THEN SWITCHING OFF TO A NEW DIRECTOR, WITHOUT THE COMIC SAVY OR THE "GET IT" FACTOR...IT JUST WON'T CLICK..AGAIN ZACK SNYDER...FAVREAU...GUILLERMO DELTORO..THESE GUYS GET COMICS.
GUNSMITH - 8/3/2009, 9:43 PM
"Hey, I know. Lets make The Juggernaut into a MUTANT! That would be such a good twist! Who cares what the fans think, we'll still make our money!"

Single
worst
part
of X3:X-Men Idiotic
necrosage2005 - 8/3/2009, 9:44 PM
Cheesy1, I think Rorschach01 is right about the critical reviews. I think the critcs like the first two a lot better. At least that's what I remember. A lot of unfavorable comparisons to Singer's work.

Also, so what if he cares or not? If tens of thousands of people just like us refuse to watch anymore of his movies, then he will feel it. He will know he messed up somehow.

I don't care how good the movie is, I will never even consider going to another one of his movies or even watching them at home. I know about a dozen other guys that feel the same way. The owner of a local comic book shop claimed to have burned him in effigy after the movie came out and I heard him tell customers to avoid watching the movie because it was, and i quote "the most inconceivably horrid piece of crud since Battlefield Earth". ouch

DarthMulder - 8/3/2009, 9:48 PM
Necrosage, now I know that the criticism isn't serious - complaining that the crimson gems of Cytorrak weren't incorporated into the film...? I think I'm done here.
Cheesey1 - 8/3/2009, 9:50 PM
X3 had it's moments, but nowhere near X2, which is pretty much a real piece of art.

Singer could actually redeem himself with the Sups Returns haters if he would return to the X-Men franchise.
Inohaku - 8/3/2009, 10:01 PM
THEN AGAIN SUPERNATURAL MAGIC BANDS THAT GIVE YOU THE POWER OF THE JUGGERNAUGHT ISNT AS SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE AS MUTATION RIGHT?..HONESTLLY, THE IDEA WORKED FOR MANY MANY YEARS..Y CHANGE SOMETHING FANS KNOW AND HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS ON END?
GUNSMITH - 8/3/2009, 10:03 PM
The fact that they made him a mutant wasn't the worst thing, although they could have at least tried to incorporate some element of the mystical helmet(hah, mystical helmet) into it. What really bothered me was they turned Juggy into a [frick]ing retarded henchman with about 3 lines of dialogue..all delivered as only Jones can, badly! Sorry if your a fan cheesey but the dude is a weak actor! As a fan of the comics you could not have been happy with that portrayal of Juggernaut!
RorMachine - 8/3/2009, 10:07 PM
Not saying I enjoy the movie at all, but the whole Cyclops bullshit wasn't Ratner's fault. Marsden wasn't down to stick around for all the filming on X3 cause Singer stole him for Superman Returns. That caused them to have to rework an already shitty script to make up for the lack of Cyclops.
dizzongster - 8/3/2009, 10:17 PM
look the fact is he did a good
job with what littel time he had and the script he was given he was brout in at the last seconed with no time to prepare i liked it look a it next to superman returns Singer had a lot more time to prepare and to cast wright a script and look at how that turnd out x3 way better movie then superman r pepole complane about Juggernaught not being a mutatant in the ultamet x men he was that i can live with and like you i was angry about pheonix all and all not a bad movie and there was a lot of shout outs to the fans of the comics as well the cartoon sorry for some of my spelling im not that good

thedarkknight666 - 8/3/2009, 10:18 PM
a good script pls!!!!
parascythe - 8/3/2009, 10:58 PM
Ratner needs to give up on all filmmaking. And X3 although entertaining as an action movie, was badly directed and poorly written. oh and vinnie jones cant act for shit! Thats why in gone in 60 seconds they rewrote the script to make him a virtual mute!
wards - 8/4/2009, 2:54 AM
i guess im one of the ppl who liked the x3. it wasnt great but it wasnt that bad. i was expecting a colossus juggy fight atleast..i mean come on..they shouldve kept juggy has mystical tho. thot that was stupid. iceman and pyro fight was cool with a funny ending.
Rumblebeast - 8/4/2009, 3:39 AM
I think we are losing the focus of this thread, so allow me to bring it back into view...

ComicChic- you are incredibly sexy/hot!! Can I be your complete "freaking" tool, Brett Ratner style??? :D
GreyPilgrim - 8/4/2009, 4:02 AM
The only thing Brett Ratner directed that was good was the Rush Hour movies, now unless do more movies like that pretty much he got going for him.
Bandrews1 - 8/4/2009, 4:57 AM
Bet he thought he'd take the sting out of the negativity that was thrown at him by saying that. HA!
iNsaneMilesy - 8/4/2009, 5:00 AM
Ror - I agree with the Vinnie Juggs. When I 1st heard he was doing it I thought it could be ok. Mainly because he bears a very slight resemblance to Pat Stew, the characters are supposed to be related after all! But they didn't even hint at that! They screwed the character over and that's not Vinnies fault. I'm not defending him as an actor because he's not that good, but I do think he could have been good in that role if handled well.

Best thing about X3 was Kelsey Grammer's PERFECT Beast. As for the films money intake, that was mainly due to the success of the 1st two. As a CBM it was bad. As an action film, I used to think it was pretty good. However, I watched it again not long ago and it really doesn't hold up. The FX look more out dated than X2 and there is actually very little going on in the film, both action wise and character development wise.
Ron - 8/4/2009, 5:09 AM
@ dizzongster

marsden wasn't "stolen". he was upset with the little bit of screen time he was getting in the previous 2 x-films, so he went to superman returns becuase he would have more.

@ Cheesey

Cyclops IS the x-men. he's the heart and soul of the x-men. arguably the most important x-man. it always made me mad how was pushed to the back burner in the movies, like he was just some flunkie. in the comics, the x-men would have all died a million times if it weren't for him being the leader he is.
CorndogBurglar - 8/4/2009, 5:42 AM
@comicchic...YOU ARE PRETTY...LIKE KITTY PRYDE!!!!
Anil Rickly - 8/4/2009, 5:44 AM
@ superdog

don't forget the fact that juggernaut is a mutant in the movie, but he isn't in the comics. and cheesey might be okay with that, and so would i, except for the fact that the turning point in the movie was based around juggs being a mutant.

LOL, and they cast someone who isn't russian as colossus, lol. and not only was he not russian, but he couldn't act his way out of a nutsack, so they gave him like 2 lines.
CorndogBurglar - 8/4/2009, 6:38 AM
that movie was full of people who couldnt act there way out a nutsack. thats why MOST of them only had two lines. :)
superdog - 8/4/2009, 7:00 AM
@ grey, behave yourself ;)
@ Anil, why thank you, Kitty has always been one of my favorites!
ComicChic - 8/4/2009, 8:05 AM
Stick to Rush Hour
Imran - 8/4/2009, 8:24 AM
Thank... [frick]ing... God...
BmanHall - 8/4/2009, 8:31 AM
Brett Ratner a douche?? Check this vid. If your a Entourage fan you seen this...but even Brett when playing himself..acts like a douche.



TurdFergunson - 8/4/2009, 8:31 AM
entorauge is frigen awesome!!!!!!
superdog - 8/4/2009, 8:57 AM
yes superdog. i highly agree. just one of my fav top 3 shows i watch on tv right now.

1. Entourage
2. WWE Raw
3. reruns of the Office on TBS
TurdFergunson - 8/4/2009, 9:07 AM
Cheesey1, they didn't need to have Juggernaut in the movie at all. Everybody that has ever read X-men KNOWS that that is where he gets his power. Plus, Juggy isn't really that much of a henchman. He could've been the main villain so they could concentrate on his relationship with Xavier. Why didn't they ever explain that the kid was really Leech? I had to look that up on IMDB to find out.
necrosage2005 - 8/4/2009, 9:31 AM
Hey hey hey i agree with grey and anil..once again r conversation has gone off topic...
Comicchic where's some of your shoe pics?? or any for that matter...maybe some of u dressed as Shadowcat???
Rumblebeast - 8/4/2009, 10:25 AM
u know my avatar is colossus..n Kitty and Piotr in the comics....u get what i mean...yeahhhh
Rumblebeast - 8/4/2009, 10:26 AM
LOL, I rather enjoyed all of the above comments than X3.. They should make this a movie..
PieFace - 8/4/2009, 10:27 AM
On the Juggernaut issue-

Apologists for Ratner back in the day kept saying "the comic version just wouldn't translate well."

So a workable solution was a roid head with S&M gear on?
He was like a mutant football player.

Anyway like necrosage said, they should have not even had him in the movie.

If it was me making the movie, I would have simply done it this way:

The X Men find out that Magneto has teamed up with Juggernaut. Wolverine, the relative newcomer asks who Juggernaut is. With weariness in his eyes and regret in his voice Xavier admits that Juggernaut is his stepbrother, and that his ultimate goal is to destroy him (Xavier). Wolverine, setting that aside for the moment, offhandedly asks X. what Juggernaut's mutant power is. Xavier explains that although Juggernaut is incredibly powerful, he is not a mutant at all.
He says that he doesn't know where Juggernaut's powers come from but he believed him to have died during the war, only to have him reappear years later changed into this... Xavier brings rifles through a list of folders on his desktop and brings up a bit of video footage of a huge man in wierd red armor flinging cars like toys and walking through buildings. As the two men stare at the screen Xavier adds that whatever the source of his power is, it seems totaly inexhaustible, his strength is limitless, and unless we can get that helmet off he is virtually indestructible.

There now wasn't that easy? If a clod like me can figure out how to make it work why couldn't Penn/Ratner?
DarthMulder - 8/4/2009, 10:46 AM
@ darth

that was actually way better than the x-3 explanation lol
CorndogBurglar - 8/4/2009, 11:02 AM
Corndog, thank you sir.

And this is my point. So much time and manpower and talent and vast sums of money went into that movie. But I can come up woth soemthing better in a matter of second sitting at my desk at work. It's a crying shame.
DarthMulder - 8/4/2009, 11:35 AM
@darthmulder...shiaah..but probly not one of them has Jedi powers...hhheeelllloooo... :)
Rumblebeast - 8/4/2009, 11:42 AM
I don't know why X3 gets such a bad rap! Is it the weakest of the 3 movies? Maybe, yes. But when people say there was no character development, it blows my mind!

Scott turned into a basket-case
Logan was forced to kill Jean (central to the themes of that character)
Jean developed from being dead to becoming the Phoenix
Bobby and Rogue were dealing with relationship issues and she eventually gives up her powers (lame)
Storm took over for the professor after he "died"
the list goes on...

No charcter development my hairy butt!
ReddHotPoker - 8/4/2009, 12:21 PM
@ darth

i hear ya man. but ratner never had any intentions of following anything. i understand the fact that he had to change the phoenix story, if not we'd all still be sitting in the theatre waiting for her to turn into dark phoenix. but the least you can do is get the feel and tone of the comics right. killing the heart and soul of the x-men in the first 10 minutes is not the way to do that, lol. and juggernaut had changes made that were pointless. and that's kind of what i mean, changes i understand, changes for no reason? not so much. and was it asking too much to have sinister in at least one of them??? he's my favorite character, so i'm biased, but his name WAS in the computer that mystique was hacking in x2...
CorndogBurglar - 8/4/2009, 12:27 PM
Ratner is not worth discussing... ever.

I've had bowel movements with more creative contributions to society than him.

Regarding X3 making more money than the other movies I only have 2 things to say.

1. The general public is stupid. And they love to jump on the bandwagon of success. First 2 movies are great, big enough hits, which most of these GP knobs probably saw on DVD. Then the 3rd movie hits and they pile the family into the SUV and hit the megaplex. See Spidey 3 for more proof.

2. Paul Blart: Mall Cop made about $150 mil domestically.

Money does not equal good movie.
BillyBlack - 8/4/2009, 12:47 PM
@ billy

LMAO i watched mall cop with my girlfriend the other night, what a horrible movie.
CorndogBurglar - 8/4/2009, 12:55 PM
Amen brother.

ReddHotPoker thats not development! Its just a list of stuff that happens to the characters! No one grows or changes significantly. We dont learn anything new about them. Those things you mention lost all emotional impact(at least for me) because the characters barely had any exchanges! And when they did converse it was nothing we hadn't heard them say to each other before only more convincingly because the script was so much stronger in Singers movies. (Toad lighting speech the exception!)

RorMachine - 8/4/2009, 1:00 PM
I dunno about this whole thing. Ratner sucks at everything except Rush Hour movies.
Loved the character choices except for Pseudo-Rogue (Go play your piano and be a vampire and stay the f away from comic book stuff)
I mean Ewe Bool keeps getting work so who is to say this tool isn't gonna get another blockbuster franchise under his ever expanding belt?
Soilworley - 8/4/2009, 1:18 PM
@rumble, sadly the recession has depleted my sexy shoe fund =( and I don't have a Shadowcat costume... I do have a Supergirl costume.. but that's another story ;)
ComicChic - 8/4/2009, 1:59 PM
@comicchic..well im a true believer of beggars cant be choosers...so Supergirl it up...i wouldnt even mind a Powergirl pic... hehehe ;)
Rumblebeast - 8/4/2009, 2:52 PM
Why are we all not surprised?
whatthehell - 8/4/2009, 3:29 PM
BEST NEWS I HAVE READ ALL DAY! GOODBYE BRETT FATNER
icebergslick - 8/4/2009, 5:05 PM
Fatner!

iceberg I'm lovin it.
BillyBlack - 8/4/2009, 5:39 PM
@ superdog, necrosage2005 & GUNSMITH

Were you guys really complaining that they didnt give Juggernaut bloody magical shit to give him his powers. Really? And you are probably the type of people who wanted the X-Men to have retarded brightly coloured spandex and Shadowcat to have a bloody dragon! When they made Juggernaut a mutant, it was to fit it in with the more relaistic X-Men film universe! If they made him a human with powers that came from a gem, that would have been ultimately retarded! I dont even like that in the comics. (And hell, the Ultimate Juggernaut is a mutant and he could have been in Wolverine too instead of Blob becuase Juggy is in the Weapon X program in the ultimate x-men) Now I know mutation and superpowers arent exactly down to earth concepts either but they are a hell of a lot more realistic than magic fricking gems! Stop saying thats why Juggernaut was rubbish. Although Im not sticking up for the Vinnie Jones-dumb henchman film version of Juggernaut, he could have done better!

But I will be very angry about the Juggernaut-Xavier relationship being taken out because it was one of the best family relationships in comics ever. The main good guy in the comic having a psycho half-brother was brilliant. Now I know there was already a million plots going on in X3 but they could have just had Xavier grudgingly admitting that Juggernaut was his half-brother and when Xavier died, Juggernaut could have said good riddance to bad rubbish because he hated Charles. A future movie could then have developed their relationship from the comics. But no Brett Fatner (thank you icebergslick) had to [frick] that up too.

@dizzongster
Yea your damn right. Stupid James Marsden, he would have rather play an absolute crap character in Superman Boringly Returns and not give more screentime to Cyclops. Shows how much he respects the fricking character!

@Howlett04
Yea Kelsey was awesome as Beast. I loved that line he came out while he was kicking ass:
"As Churchill said, "There comes a time where all men must..!" [stops to punch someone] Oh, you get the point!"

@Darthmulder

Cool idea for a plot. Why couldnt X3 be that? Although again Juggernaut not being a mutant, stupid!

And in my final bit of ranting for tonight, someone mentioned Mall Cop, that movie sucked so much and I can laugh at anything. But that movie made me want to sleep. But Kevin James is still hilarious!

And also to agree with everyone else, ComicChic you are so hot, the rest of my cheesy chat up line just melted! lol But seriously, girl you bring beauty and laughs to this great website! Please never change, except into that Supergirl outfit. Between you and instigatorgirl, you are the glamourous Charlie Angels of this site! Now to find a third angel and I want to be Bosley! lol

later my good people!
dancingmonkey08 - 8/4/2009, 7:42 PM
Best news in a while.
TeenIdol - 8/4/2009, 8:52 PM
@dancingmonkey...for the third u have Jen or Shibazz..hell just say theres four angels. Besides it says Charlies Angels not Charlies 3 Angels ryt?
Rumblebeast - 8/4/2009, 9:06 PM
@ dancingmonkey

i dunno man, they changed him into a mutant so that leach could shut off his power at the end of the movie. i'm convinced that's the only reason they made him a mutant. and that, to me, is not cool at all. and i don't know, juggs was a weakling, and a sissy, AND he looked awful!!! and vinnie jones?? talk about a miscast for the ages.

also, marsden may have went on to do superman, but i'm thinking he was a perfect cyclops. and he did it because cyclops wasn't getting screen time, which is not his fault at all. he probably thought it was gonna be awesome playing the LEADER of the x-men, and probably thought that he'd HAVE to get screen time in those movies. and then he got pushed to the back burner in all 3. i'd be pissed too, but he was bound by contract to do 3 movies, its isn't his fault the movie was written to have him die in the first 10 minutes
CorndogBurglar - 8/4/2009, 10:15 PM
Let him go screw up another movie franchise like Resident Evil
Bobbo68 - 8/4/2009, 10:46 PM
@ oz LMAO @ Good Riddence!! LOL
Scorpioxfactor - 8/5/2009, 4:31 AM
@ Rumblebeast

I like your idea, lets have four angels then! And you can be Charlie! From this point I decree that ComicChic, instigatorgirl, shibazz and jen are the new Rumblebeast's Angels!

"Once upon a time there were four very different little girls who grew up to be four very different women with three things in common: they're brilliant, they're beautiful, and they watch and comment on comic book movies for me. My name is Rumblebeast" lol

@corndog burglar

If thats the reason why Juggy was changed into a mutant for the movie, I agree with you 100%, that is a crap reason and about Cyclops, I suppose when you explain it like that why James quit the role, that does make more sense why he went to Superman Returns. But did he have to play such a horrible character in Superman. I wish they would make a new X trilogy and give him a WAY bigger role!
dancingmonkey08 - 8/5/2009, 8:04 AM
@ dancing monkey

i agree wholefartedly! a marvel produced x-men would make me very happy. and when i say x-men, i mean the x-men, not 3 wolverine movies...

and yeah, marsden played a lame character in superman, but he probably got paid more for it, who knows??
CorndogBurglar - 8/5/2009, 11:27 AM
@dancingmonkey...hellzz yeah.. hehehe and u ofcourse my main man Bosley a.k.a dancingmonkey
Rumblebeast - 8/5/2009, 1:14 PM
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Brent Sprecher - 8/12/2009, 11:39 AM
all 3 movies sucked. all they care about is star power and sh*t. nobody really cares about a good story telling. it's not about the action scenes, well it is actually cool to see them in action but it's not all that. why can't they make like good quality mature comic book film, say like watchmen or something. why do they have to treat all comic book movies the same way they treat 10 year olds? i guess that's how they see comic book readers like us, they see us as kids. i agree...they should get zack snyder. OR if they get Spielberg...the story should be epic, like God Loves, Man Kills type of sh*t. Is that something you might be interested in?
redskullrevenge - 8/12/2009, 11:46 PM
I didn't read much on this first class movie, but I'd look forward to getting the backstory to cyclops, storm, beast and marvel girl. I enjoyed x3, even better if there was a director cut. Why rogue why kill your powers. And why does callisto have quicksilver's speed? And if he wasent already cast as sabretooth, man what would it be like if Tyler Mane played juggernaut. Juggs needed to be that size. Magneto movie yes! Deadpool yes! Don't put x-men in the title or fox will use it for evil!
shibbmeister - 8/21/2009, 2:29 PM

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