Punisher (2004)

Uploaded By PollMaster on 1/22/2011

The Punisher is a 2004 American comic book action film, based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name, starring Thomas Jane as the antihero Frank Castle / The Punisher and John Travolta as the villain Howard Saint, a money launderer who orders the death of Castle's entire family. The film is not a sequel to or a remake of 1989's The Punisher; it is a reboot. The story and plot were mainly based on two Punisher comic book stories; The Punisher: Year One and Welcome Back, Frank along with scenes from other Punisher stories such as Marvel Preview: Featuring The Punisher #2, The Punisher War Zone and The Punisher War Journal.[3] The film was released on April 16, 2004, by Lions Gate Entertainment, grossing $13,834,527 in the United States over its opening weekend. A DVD release followed on September 7, 2004 - with $10.8 million in copies sold.


1 2
mcskunky - 7/6/2012, 1:28 PM
1st was class, but now out dated. Watched it few weeks ago in HD, and it didnt look great. Plus new film got greatest Stan Lee Cameo ever
GreenHalJordan - 7/6/2012, 1:33 PM
I feel like Spiderman told a better origin story (as setting him up to be that hero that he needs to be), but TASM was a better Spiderman movie.
DoomXfactor - 7/6/2012, 1:34 PM
Wow... a little surprised by the percentages. Let's see how this goes
baszs - 7/6/2012, 1:35 PM
Garfield was a far better Peter Parker then Tobey, and the best uncle Ben is Martin Sheen! period!
erth2drew - 7/6/2012, 1:40 PM
TASM was a far better telling of the story, though i agree with some of the things done better, ie the score, everythign else about TASM was better the SR's SM it made it look like the 60's batman campy show honestly...not that they were horrible but marc webb's vision surpasses any attempts towards peter parker/spiderman ever!
erth2drew - 7/6/2012, 1:43 PM
I agree baszs^^^martin sheen was a better uncle Ben...he was real, not Disney-esque with his speech, at the same time carrying the responsibility. The fact that blame lied on Peter in reality or not shouldn't matter. Peter always felt like he was to blame for not being there and worrying his uncle to come after him in the first place.
cgriffith - 7/6/2012, 1:44 PM
Think about this...

The Lizard first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #6, Green Goblin #14.

Flash Thompson was a friend of Peter's in school appeared in Amazing Fantasy #15, and Amazing Spider-Man #1 no mention in the original (2002)

Gwen Stacy first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #31, Mary Jane Watson was mentioned in Amazing Spider-Man #25(one panel), but did not appear until..#42.

Gewn Stacy's death in Amazing Spider-Man is considered groundbreaking and historical (1973). And most comic historians consider it the end of the Silver Age of Comics.
gamerguy753 - 7/6/2012, 1:53 PM
msskunky- ikr!
TheMfayz - 7/6/2012, 1:57 PM
I totally agree and now that I realize it, spiderman didn't suck as much as I remembered it did haha.
jpmuftak - 7/6/2012, 2:20 PM
I can't believe anyone would rank Spider-man over The Amazing Spider-man unless nostalgia was clouding their judgement.

Maybe Spider-man was a little more classic in it's style - in that it explained itself every step of the way. That mixed with the classic upside down kiss and the overall "faithfulness" to the comics were the only things it had going for it.

If you go back and watch it again, it's so cheesy, poorly edited and poorly acted that it doesn't even come close to comparing. I can't believe the reviewer picked Tobey as a better Parker. He forgot to consider acting I guess. Every line of dialogue he had was a flat monotone cardboard performance - unless he was "acting" and had ugly cry face. I don't remember Peter in the comics ever being the kind of nerd that was a complete joke to everyone around him. He was supposed to be a picked on, sure, but only because he was SO much smarter than everyone. They nailed it in TAS as his relationship with Flash developed exactly right, ect...
billnye69 - 7/6/2012, 2:21 PM
TASM was better in every way then the originals.
MadJakHatesSpinoffs - 7/6/2012, 2:21 PM
I think Spider-Man did a much better job telling Spidey's origin story. At least the events in the movie followed the comic pretty well. I still liked Amazing Spider-Man, but Uncle Ben's death just felt weak.
Thegoddamnbatman52 - 7/6/2012, 2:24 PM
Originally I was going to pick the original just out of spite because I know when it comes to polls the newer fresher version of something always gets more votes no matter what, but the more I thought about the more I realized tasm told a better origin story and was quite frankly a better spiderman movie
dcnmarvelrcool - 7/6/2012, 2:26 PM
nowtheresaBATman - 7/6/2012, 2:32 PM
@baszs that's 100% true.
DoomXfactor - 7/6/2012, 2:36 PM
@jpmuftak- I completely agree
typicalfanboy - 7/6/2012, 2:57 PM
amazing spiderman was pretty good. not nearly as cheesy as the 2002 one. the new one is a bit closer to the comics, and you actually felt like the characters were real people. kinda a mix of ultimate and 616 spiderman.seeing him actually use his intellect and wise crack was something we rarely saw in the raimi movies.
fullmoon106 - 7/6/2012, 3:27 PM
I saw The Amazing Spider-Man tonight. I don't know if it was really necessary to reboot this, but now that they have...I loved it!

The 2002 Spider-Man was great too, but I have to say I enjoyed this a little bit more. It feels more relatable and the characters feel more real. I also liked the fact that Spider-Man jokes around while being very smart. Actors did a great job and visually it was great too.

I think it's great that they included Gwen Stacy as the love interrest. That character was very important to Peter in the comics, and her story was something that really wasn't handelled well in Raimi's trilogy. I don't know if it's the best Spider-Man movie yet, but it was very good and I would definitelly watch a sequel.
readme - 7/6/2012, 3:38 PM
I watched 'the amazing spider man' yesterday and was really disappointed in the film. very slow start, i didnt laugh once and i got really really bored. plus points.....the acting was good, i liked the lizard but its a massive shame there wasnt more of him and when there was action it was good. i was never a fan of the first 3 films but i preferred that first one to this. changing the subject a little, i watched the green lantern again tonight (first time since the cinema) and its not actually as bad as i first thought, i actually enjoyed it second time round and think a sequal would be really good!
ItsATrap - 7/6/2012, 3:45 PM
i think the amazing spider-man was a better movie, though spider-man was a better origin story. make any sense?
ThePowerCosmic - 7/6/2012, 3:51 PM
Give me a break Toby sucks! TASM was light years better! You think that dumb Green goblin mask was better than the CGI Lizard, that is so ridiculous!
webheaded - 7/6/2012, 3:54 PM
The Amazing Spider-Man just took some things a little more seriously, which is what was needed.
Lindsey35 - 7/6/2012, 3:56 PM
Gotta disagree with the Toby/Peter Parker choice. Andrew delivered a far better Peter Parker, he showed amazing emotion even with the mask on.

Toby was...ok, but nothing compared to Andrew's amazing acting.
Uncle Ben, I'd have to chose Sheen, he was brilliant along with Sally Field.
The score...on par with each other.

I thought the slow start did very good justice for the movie, we got to learn them, and mostly Peter which is highly important. The action was breath taking and the dialogue was genius. And finally, we got the witty Peter, but he was still smart and brilliant just like in the comics.

I don't see how people can dislike this movie, I mean, you can at least say it was entertaining. All the acting was genius. The story was told a million times better, even if the whole parents thing wasn't needed, but now I feel like it was 'cause it played a bigger role in it than people (haters specifically) want to understand.

I think this reboot saved Spider-Man from the disaster labeled "Spider-Man 4", and I think TASM is doing the old crew/cast justice by not letting them make a bigger mess with 4.

Just a few opinions.

Lindsey35 - 7/6/2012, 3:59 PM
Oh and agreed with ThePowerCosmic, the Lizard was awesome, and Goblin was...well....weird.
TChallaTchaka - 7/6/2012, 4:06 PM
SMH lol How fickle some comic book fans can be when a new comic book movie comes out as a reboot.
cgriffith - 7/6/2012, 4:14 PM
@TChalla What you fail to realize in this comparison is that "ASM" follows the comic book chronologically better than "SpiderMan (2002)" did. Also consider that the CGI has improved improving the overall appearance.
Odin - 7/6/2012, 4:20 PM
Andrew Garfield sucked in the role, I would give TASM only two stars.
webheaded - 7/6/2012, 4:43 PM
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Andrew was PERFECT.
iJackSparrow - 7/6/2012, 4:54 PM
The film premiered last night in IMAX 3D here in Brazil.

The Amazing Spider-Man isn't just the best Spider-Man film yet, not only tells the best Spider-Man origin in picture - and it's debatable if this isn't hands down the best take in the Spider-Man origin EVER, not only comparing to Raimi's film - but it's one of the best superhero films ever, joining a selected list of A-lister films like The Avengers, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man 1.

This film is brilliant, and anyone not realizing that Andrew Garfield IS Peter Parker AND Spider-Man at this point just need to rewatch it all over again until then understand that. Never Peter Parker and Spider-Man mythos was told with so much meaning and gravitas. The Amazing Spider-Man will go down as one of the best entries on the genre, and I'm beating myself because I won't be able to watch it again until tomorrow. Marc Webb has pulled off the impossible, given even more heart to Spider-Man than his story already has, and I'm man enough to say that I was left crying at the end of the film. This isn't just an adaptation of Spidey mythos. I've just witnessed my old childhood friend come to life and I love him more now than I ever did in the past.

[frick]ing AMAZING Spider-Man. That's what this film truly is.
ChiefJudge - 7/6/2012, 5:08 PM
I disagree - It's the same origin story as the first movie. In fact it is exactly the same as the first movie with a few character changes. Any one who reads spider-man will know of "The Other" storyline. A radioactive spider did not make Peter Parker spider-man by biting him - In fact Peter Parker was always Spider-Man and that's why the spider bit him. (Yeah I know how it sounds) But there is a far better origin story here. Check it out.
FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey - 7/6/2012, 5:57 PM
You guys can't be serious. Seriously guys? I mean regardless of which movie you enjoyed more, you have to admit Raimi made the origin story in his movie much closer to the comics.
2010warmachine - 7/6/2012, 6:14 PM
It's A Draw for me. Both Sam [Raimi] & Marc [Webb] made excellent Spider-Man origin stories.
Lindsey35 - 7/6/2012, 6:16 PM
@ FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey

Closer to the comics? Raimi's? Really?

Lets see here:

Organic, which wasn't in the comics.

MJ before Gwen, not in the comics.

Stiff winey Spider-Man/Peter Park, not in the comics.

No genius, smart, witty teenage kid, not in the comics.

Old collage kid looking twice his age, not in the comics.


Webshooters-- check.

Smart, funny, witty, genius-- check, check, check, check.

Young teenager.

Gwen Stacey.

Awesome web slinging.

Awesome story a million times better than Raimi's.
FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey - 7/6/2012, 6:22 PM
@Lindsey35 I said the ORIGIN STORY not the character of Spider-Man or Peter Parker. If we are talking about that, then yeah, TASM wins hands down. But Spider-Man followed the PLOT of the origin story in the comics much more accurately.

PeterParker1991 - 7/6/2012, 6:22 PM
Amazing Spiderman for the win. Wasn't even thinking about the others while watching it. Going to see it again on Sunday for the THIRD time. Garfield was PERFECT as Peter Parker/Spiderman. Maguire introduced Spidey to the big screen for the first time, which I respect for that time, but Amazing Spiderman is the ideal Spidey film. There's no reason hardcore Spiderman fans can't enjoy both interpretations though.
Lindsey35 - 7/6/2012, 6:31 PM
@ FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey

So you're one of those people that don't see the parents thing as needed?


Though, it did seem more grounded and solid.

Sorry, I didn't quite understand you at first :)
Lindsey35 - 7/6/2012, 6:35 PM
@ PeterParker1991


Lets just enjoy them all, yeah none of them are paritcular perfect but, how about we just enjoy laying aside the flaws?

The Raimi movies are still very enjoyable, aside from how much I enjoyed TASM.

I just hate it when people are like:

"TASM sucked, Toby forever!"

Well there comes a point when we all need to move on, but not forget the ones that brought it to the big screen first.
Lindsey35 - 7/6/2012, 6:35 PM
Crap, wish there was an edit button.
Kyler1Man - 7/6/2012, 6:41 PM
The only point i would have to disagree on is the uncle ben death scene, to me it is so much more emotional in the amazing spider-man than in the original, in the sam raimi it always felt weird and awkward how peter was there with his uncle in front of an entire crowd of people and to me that eliminates the sad and alone feeling that is accomplished in webb's also ben is still alive in the original but out of anything he could of said like "sorry peter" or even "it's gonna be alright" he just says "...peter..." it comes off as strange to me
AmazingFantasy - 7/6/2012, 7:05 PM
TASM wins, no contest.
1 2

Please log in to post comments.

Don't have an account?
Please Register.