Was Chuck the Prophet Really God?

Was Chuck the Prophet Really God?

The Supernatural finale seemed to have left this way open. I wanna hear what your thoughts are.

The Supernatural finale really left it open for fans to debate on whether or not Chuck the Prophet was God. There were many hints and clues that pointed to yes... and no.

I admit that I am torn on this subject. I feel he was actually God, but then again, the final scene could have only been him going to Heaven, which was promised to him when finishing his task of writing the "Winchester Gospels."

SuperWiki has listed the different arguments about Chuck being a God:

"-Chuck as a writer is the creator of the story of Sam and Dean Winchester in the form of the Supernatural books. He says when confronted with the real Sam and Dean that he "is a god", for all that he puts them through in the books happens in real life.

"Well, there's only one explanation. Obviously I'm a god... I'm definitely a god. A cruel, cruel, capricious god."

– Chuck to Dean and Sam, 4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book

This is explained by Castiel as Chuck being a prophet of God. Castiel says the "Supernatural" Books will become known as the Winchester Gospels.

-The metaphor in this episode is of the writer as creator. Chuck's pseudonym is Carver Edlund, a reference to Supernatural writers Jeremy Carver and Ben Edlund. The character is an avatar for Kripke himself Source and is used to comment on the text and process of writing with reference to specific past episodes of the Show. This metaphor would also hold then is God, the creator, was also the writer. We have a trinity here - Chuck, Kripke and God.

-Sam and Dean find out from the angel Joshua that God is on Earth 5.16 Dark Side Of The Moon

-In the finale there, is further foreshadowing of Chuck's true identity: When Dean calls Chuck, Chuck answers the phone "Mistress Magda," and we briefly see a newspaper ad for a blonde women in a bikini named "Miss Magda" on Chuck's desk before he puts his glass on it. This may be a reference to Mary Magdalene who Jesus, the physical incarnation of God, healed of demons. She then become a follower of his, and an early Christian leader.

-Chuck, after narrating the events that take place, finally appears dressed in white musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears - Chuck, it seems, is God.

In the final revelation it appears Chuck is God - the writer of Sam and Dean's story. The fact that they manage to follow their own paths, suggest that the deity chooses to allow free will within the "story" he is writing.

-Fans arguing against Chuck's divinity point primarily to the fact that Dean's Amulet, which Castiel says will "burn hot" in God's presence does not react when Dean and Chuck meet face to face in 4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book, 4.22 Lucifer Rising, and 5.01 Sympathy For The Devil. However, Joshua tells Sam and Dean in Heaven "Magic amulet or not, you won't be able to find him"."

Sera Gamble also had this to say about the Chuck/God debate:

"I love a good God debate, so it's nice to hear we got one going this season. We purposely left a bit of room for interpretation. Although many of your readers probably just read that sentence and rolled their eyes because they feel like we made it all very obvious by the end.

Nobody thought it was obvious! Do you mean Chuck is the obvious answer, or that you really did leave it open?

Don't ask me to squish the God debate! How many TV shows can say their fans are talking about THAT stuff?"

So what are your thoughts? Please feel free to express any argument on the subject, I feel this is a good discussion for Supernatural fans. Thanks to XmutantX for giving me the idea for the poll.

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ecksmanfan - 5/20/2010, 7:15 PM
Very interesting. I think it's very possible. I'm with you though...torn. I hope we get to find out though.
AverageCitizen99 - 5/20/2010, 9:16 PM
I'm not still wondering about whether or not he was God. The finale had me surprised every minute and it's surprising to be debating about a subject like this from a TV series. Sera is gonna do very well with Supernatural; always has, always will.
Boekelaar - 5/20/2010, 10:58 PM
I didn't think he was God. The amulet and the alcoholism. Plus i thought that the reason god was on earth was to escape the whole heaven hell thing. why would he purposely involve himself with the vessels? and then there's the arc angel protecting him, why would god need one plus it would be a risk as he was always being watched. He's not God he's just fulfilled his purpose and gone to heaven. Plus all the names of the prophets are burned into castiels head, even though this could be changed by god himself i think it'd just be easier to be a random human then a prophet.
Matador - 5/21/2010, 9:52 AM
Well Chuck did have a a powerful angel guarding him if he was in danger. Which I forgot who he was. Aside from that why would God go out of his way to date a crazy chick, I'd just make one.
So my choice is prophet.
Bartman87 - 5/21/2010, 10:44 AM
In my opinion he was God and all the other stuff was to put people off from the fact that he was God. Chuck was either extremely lucky or God because it doesn't seem possible that hell wouldn't have gotten to him eventually.
contrast - 5/21/2010, 11:59 AM
There's also the fact that on twitter, Rob Benedict, the actor that plays Chuck, has, at least once, used the phrase "OMC" (meaning, of course, "Oh My Chuck")
darkclaw89 - 5/21/2010, 12:46 PM
This was my favourite season ending so far,will miss kripke :(
AverageCitizen99 - 5/21/2010, 10:05 PM

Eric might not be running things but he will still be involved in the show as an executive producer to make sure things are as steady as they are now.
Eion76 - 5/22/2010, 11:15 AM
I think he was god.When you really think about it.He was acting,Think ppl,only 4 angels have seen his face,Raphael,Lucifer,Michael & Gabriel.Zach met Chuck face to face & no idea who he was talking to.To top it off remember what Joshua said about God being lonely?He was in his house all the time & would never come out,he did have alcohol,but did we ever see him drunk?And answer me this why in the hell would he go through a wardrobe change @ the end of the episode?Kripke said that we would see God in the finale & we did.How else can you explain Castiel being brought back twice!First he died protecting Chuck/God.And the archangel that killed Castiel was Raphael.Only he believed that God was dead.Michael,Gabriel & hell even Lucifer didnt.And Castiel was brought back again as an Archangel by God.Even at the end Chuck mentioned how the fans are always gonna ***** about the ending,how ending's are impossible etc.How it was a test for Sam & Dean,how they went up against good,evil,angels devils,destiny,even god himself & that in the end they chose family & that isnt that really what its all about,no doubt endings are hard but then again nothing ever really ends,does it?
TheAmazingShmoo - 5/22/2010, 12:18 PM
I would say that he is God. Look at it this way: he wasn't just having visions, since he is actually writing the story on how things go, wouldn't that alone tell you he is God?
InstigatorGIRL - 5/23/2010, 2:25 PM
@Ion Castiel never died protecting Chuck. He died at Chuck's house while trying to help Dean get to Sam.
Eion76 - 5/23/2010, 9:10 PM
oops I forgot lol,thanks instigator Girl
Eion76 - 5/23/2010, 10:37 PM
oops I forgot lol,thanks instigator Girl
whatshisnameMD - 5/25/2010, 2:34 AM
Great show. I love seeing Chuck because it reminds me of Waiting which is a very funny movie :)
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 5/26/2010, 4:48 AM
Excellent article Igirl! I loved this episode! Very powerful! I thought Chuck was God but then wondered about the lack of heat in Deans amulet. I've heard talk of the car actually being God, not as stupid as it first sounds. The question is - how did Sam climb out the pit? And more to the point, is it Sam? He sure looked pissed off!
Superman4 - 6/4/2010, 7:59 PM
They should get Morgan Freeman to play god!
melodicjoe - 7/5/2010, 9:05 AM
I'm a little slow and am just now seeing the season 5 finale. First off, it was an excellent way to close a series. I'm definitely interested how they are going to do this sixth season. Maybe they'll bring up the anti christ, since they left that open.
As far as Chuck being god, that's the first question I asked myself and for the same reasons listed in this article. One extra thought on this is that when Dean called Chuck to find out where the big showdown between Lucifer and Michael was going to take place, Chuck first said that the angels wouldn't reveal it, but then states that he's seen it anyway, supposedly because of his being a prophet. So, he either got it directly from god or he was god. I believe the latter.
fangirl205 - 2/19/2011, 11:01 AM
So, if angels have to have vessels to be on earth, than it is feasible that God would too. I think Chuck is God’s vessel at certain times, and is just a profit at others. This explains why he has back story as a failed writer before he begins having visions of the Winchesters. I think the point of the story was that God was testing Dean’s free will (the thing that sets humans apart from Angels, and the thing that Lucifer, Anna, and eventually Castiel use to defy God). Everything that he wrote came true until he met Dean face to face in 4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book. Castiel tells Dean about the archangel protecting Chuck, Dean goes to Chucks and forces him to return to the motel to save Sam. Chuck tells Dean, “I haven’t seen this, I haven’t written this.” Dean employs free will to break the storyline that God wrote.

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