Best Iron Man 4 and 5 Villains and Plot Ideas

Incase Iron Man films 4 and 5 do happen in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Marvel Studios has been pushing its limits on villains to choose from for the Iron Man films which is making it very difficult for how the next films will turn out here are the best choices of villains for Marvel Studios to go with

First the villains and plot for Iron Man 4

The Main villain is speculated to be

Fin Fang Foom

Option A

The film is to be based partially and loosely on the Dragon Seed Storyline of the Iron Man comics

Ben Kingsley is to reprise his role as the Mandarin regardless of Guy Pearce being the villain's MCU version over the tattoos and people using people as mask crap. Marvel should resume with the Mandarin as Trevor Slattery in a Frankenstein's Monster like way except being evil like Aldrich. Instead, Trevor will be more of a rival to Tony simply by dealing with other villains and sinister organizations like AIM with his own methods and by acquiring the ten power rings and by suiting up in black armor, he will be rebranded as Iron Mandarin


First he needs to be broken out by another villain capable of infiltrating places and skilled in martial arts and assassination tactics and the one Iron Man capable of doing that is

the Ghost

With the Ghost debuting in the next film, not only will he be a suitable Iron Man villain adaptable for the MCU. but also with his skills of stealth and martial arts tactics, he should be capable of breaking the Mandarin (Trevor) out of jail and bringing him over to the Ten Rings to explain to him about Tony Stark and Aldrich Killian


and after Raza or who ever is in charge of the band now explains their affiliation with Killian, he will give Trevor the ten power rings that they named their organization after and once Trevor puts them all on and shifts into black armor with the reanimation ring, Fin Fang Foom appears from the site they found the rings at and after showing the dragon the power of the rings, Foom organizes a deal with Slattery and the actor using the rings to put the terrorists under his command he has the world adress him as Iron Mandarin and next they attack AIM facilities all over the US and then Iron Mandarin and Iron Man fight during the Ten Rings seige

and at the end after Trevor completes his deal with the dragon reverting his remaining brothers back to their dragon forms and then the dragons start putting their plan of invasion into action. After realizing the disaster he has done, Iron Mandarin will team up with Iron Man and his allies to defeat the dragons

It may seem strange to some of you but after the mess and the chaos the twist on the Mandarin had caused and for how the Mandarin ended up being an innocent actor being played by a psychopathic scientist on taking the fall for the suicide explosions of Taggert and the rest of his failed test subjects and being arrested without understanding what's going on and being arrested for those crimes when he really never thought people were being killed, bringing him back for Iron Man 4 and evolving him into the real ring powered Mandarin that we really know from the comics would not only make things better but its the right thing to do because that way with him meeting the terrorists in the first film in the upcoming Iron Man 4, we'll be sure to get all the specific confirmation we need on Killian's involvement with him becase Maya mentioning Military contracts and Black mentioning Killian co-opting the band is NOT enough to close this case because it's hard to believe that an american would be the head of terrorists from an enemy country even if they are making the franchise loosely based on the comics.

And how would you expect Marvel Studios to do the rings for the Mandarin without being related to the character's comic book version? Same way they did it for the Cosmic Cube/Tesseract in Captain America: The First Avenger and with Thor's hammer being teased in the second Iron Man film's end credits. For in this case, simply by making both Fin Fang Foom, his dragon race, and the magic rings Asgardian based. It may seem strange but hey since the Iron Man movie franchise is in the same film universe as Thor and the other Avengers that appeared in the Avengers film, it wouldn't be such a problem to have some Asgardian elements in Iron Man 4.

or in case Kevin Feige and Marvel refuse to get Kingsley to reprise his role as the Mandarin despite making Aldrich Killian the character's MCU version then here is

Option B

Fin Fang Foom will be used as a giant mechanical dragon which serves as a combination of him and Ultimo combined

and this picture below is just one example on what Fin Fang Foom would look like in the 4th film

Sure enough, if Kevin Feige is gonna need to try something really new in order to make Fin Fang Foom's Marvel Cinematic Interpretation work out as a giant mechanical menace, he is gonna have to go with at least a few major human villains to work it out including some different resources and technologies and for this kind of thing, the villain that should operate the giant mechanical menace is

The Controller
and the two other villains that should be used as his bodyguards and henchmen are

Killer Shrike


The Ghost

and now for Iron Man 5's villains and plot

With Iron Man 5 serving as the last Marvel Cinematic Iron Man film its main villain is most speculated to be

Ezikel Stane as Titanium Man and leader of the Marvel Cinematic version of the Maggia and if you're wondering why he should be the Maggia leader of the MCU it's cause of the goons that his father Obadiah had with him in the first movie that he had executing some of the terrorists

Sasha as Madame Masque

and the other 2 speculated villains avilable are



Living Laser

Some of you are thinking of characters like MODOK, but characters like him are not gonna happen because Shane Black, the director of Iron Man 3 was kind enough to invite some of the fans that he along with Jon Favreau, Kevin Feige, and Louis D'Esposito had pissed off rudely with the twist on the Mandarin and explained to them that their reasons for violating the Mandarin and for not doing the magic rings for the character was indeed because they had the Marvel Cinematic Universe tied to our reality and modern day and events and some of the characters like the Mandarin properly as we know him for was because of certain difficulties at handling the stereotypes, you can't expect them to use MODOK when the character's head is so disturbingly ugly and unbearable and besides AIM already had a major role and appearance in Iron Man 3 and because Aldrich Killian was their leader in the MCU, he's very much Marvel Cinematic MODOK enough.

And for why they should still use Fin Fang Foom inspite of tying the MCU with modern day reality? Simple, because they are gonna need something to keep the plot of the next two possible sequels and without villains like Foom, what else are they suppose to do?

To find out what Marvel Studios has in mind stay tuned.
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dellamorte1872 - 10/9/2013, 7:17 AM
They had a good way to add not only MANDARIN played by S.B.K properly properly. FING FANG FOOMwho could get called by MANDARIN only in the climax as a secret weapon. THOR gave way to magic and STARK fought aliens so it's not far fetched. The "spy chick" coulda been MADAME MASQUE as the scorned lover siding MANDARINs plans. She was MASQUE in a philosophical sense but it'd have been better if it was more aligned to the source. Dump the whole extremis plot. Stark realizes from avengers tech isn't everything magic and monsters exist. None of those three characters woulda been far fetched either just scratch like 90% of the script and start over that's what I woulda done honestly.
dellamorte1872 - 10/9/2013, 7:20 AM
Ghost is the hardest to transition on screen but living laser woulda been good to do before ELECTRO+Sony do it first. They coulda looked original but the three characters I listed prior fit more organically inline with the stories that came previously
dellamorte1872 - 10/9/2013, 7:31 AM
MODOK is the perfect villain for ANT-MAN even a mixture of EGGHEAD and MODOK before the guy turns into MODOK PYM always teases him and calls him EGGHEAD bc they're rivals at STARK LABS which will help ENFORCE PYMs connection to the begins of ULTRON which is decent bc honestly PYM doesn't do it all by himself
mook - 10/9/2013, 7:52 AM
I hope they don't do IM4 and/or 5.
Have him appear in Avengers 2 and 3 and a couple of cameos.
ruadh - 10/9/2013, 7:54 AM
I'm almost positive the next solo Iron Man movie will be spearheading the big fat MCU reboot in 2020, BUT...if they did do Iron Man 4, I could see Maya actually not dying and coming back as Madame Masque.
NovaCorpsFan - 10/9/2013, 8:59 AM
Still beatin' this horse, huh? Seriously, you're running out of spots to hit, better move onto its baby quick! (Shane Black)
NovaCorpsFan - 10/9/2013, 9:01 AM
Why use the term speculated? That suggests it's happening! Iron Man 4 & 5 will not happen!
GliderMan - 10/9/2013, 9:45 AM

DrDoom - 10/9/2013, 11:39 AM
AC1 - 10/9/2013, 1:29 PM
There won't be an Iron Man 4 and 5, at least, not for a decade or so. By that time they'd probably want to reboot rather than make another sequel so long after, with a new lead actor.

Also, your ideas involving the Ten Rings and Trevor go against what has already happened. Trevor is an actor, not an evil genius in disguise. Killian IS The Mandarin, at least in the MCU. As for the Ten Rings - Obidiah Stane killed most of them (including Raza) in the first movie. It's likely that Killian took over what was left of the Ten Rings right after Tony went public as Iron Man, meaning he controlled them during Iron Man 2 and The Avengers as well. This means the Ten Rings member who visited Ivan Vanko in prison was probably working for Killian already.

Hell, if they want to redo The Mandarin (before rebooting) then I hope they bring Killian back, partially to really make everyone see that he is this universe's Mandarin, partially because he could be brought back in interesting ways in which he more closely aligns himself to the version of the Mandarin he created. But even that is a big IF, and they'd be better off quitting while they're ahead.

The thing I don't understand is - people seemed ready and willing to accept the terrorist version of The Mandarin (as played by Trevor/Sir Ben Kingsley) that was shown in the trailers, but as soon as Killian was revealed as the real Mandarin, and Trevor was revealed as an actor, people began using the excuse that 'he didn't have magic rings' in the movie as a reason for him being a bad villain. Bit of a double standard, right?
GliderMan - 10/9/2013, 1:49 PM
Not a decade. Probably 2018 or 19
mook - 10/10/2013, 3:41 AM
@AC1 Great points. The Mandarin has been done in the MCU and there's no reason to bring him back.
Archangel82 - 10/11/2013, 6:52 AM
Nice article! I like Ghost the best as the main villian in Ironman 4. In fact I was certain Marvel was going to use him in the last movie. He has the look, skill set and personal ties to Tony Stark. The Ghost would fit so well in the MCU that it's strange he hasn't been introduced. If they do decide to make another sequel I'm wondering who the villian will be.
Abary - 10/13/2013, 8:44 AM


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