IRON MAN 3 Update, The Mandarin Might Not Be The Mandarin...

IRON MAN 3 Update, The Mandarin Might Not Be The Mandarin...

Here's an update on the Iron Man III story surrounding Ben Kingsley, The Mandarin and how the villain will be woven into the tech-dominant world of the Iron Man film series.


Neonpunch, the site which broke the story of Andy Lau's involvement with Iron Man 3 now has more info about how The Mandarin may be depicted in the third Iron Man movie.


Andy Lau’s character will be an OLD FRIEND OF TONY STARK’S that represents China’s technology sector – and will use China’s armored heroes to HELP Iron Man defeat “The Mandarin” who is seen as a terrorist against both the US and China.

Neonpunch goes on to report that Kingsley could be playing the leader of "a group called The Mandarin" who are the masterminds behind a global chain of events that set off a war of Iron Men.

Previous comments from director Shane Black about how The Mandarin is a "racist character" and that the film will be a "technological thriller set in the world of international war, arms and terror" lines up perfectly with what Neonpunch reports.

Also lending credence to this report is Marvel's decision to co-produce IRON MAN 3 in China which has a well known stringent censorship policy that does not allow unbecoming deceptions of Chinese in Western films [See Chow Yun Fat’s pirate character being completely cut out of “Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End”].

Iron Man 3 is expected to begin shooting in the coming weeks, actor Robert Downey Jr. (RDJ) has already been spotted in North Carolina.

RDJ can next be seen in The Avengers, opening May 4th in the United States.

The Mandarin is a fictional character, a Marvel Comics supervillain and the archenemy of Iron Man. The Mandarin first appeared in Tales of Suspense #50 (February 1964), written by Stan Lee, who created the character, and illustrated by Don Heck, who initially designed the character. The Mandarin is referenced in the 2008 live action Iron Man movie via the name of the terrorist group called "The Ten Rings", who holds Tony Stark captive in the beginning of the film. Raza, the leader of the Ten Rings, has a single red ring that he rubs with his other hand. He also makes a reference to Genghis Khan when speaking to Stark and Yinsen. Director Jon Favreau revealed that their version of the Mandarin in the live action Iron Man movie series "allows us to incorporate the whole pantheon of villains" After the successful release of Iron Man 2, Favreau stated that he hoped to include the Mandarin himself in an Iron Man 3 project.

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ThreeBigTacos - 4/25/2012, 7:20 AM
Good, he needs an 'update', and hopefully it gives him more than a 2 dimensional feeling.
Gerrit - 4/25/2012, 7:44 AM
Of course that if they make the Mandarin they will have to adapt him. Not everything that works in the comics works in the movies, specially things decades old. They have to reinvent Iron Man's universe just like they did with his suits. It would be horrible if they had made his movies using the first suits as they were in the comics. And this doesn't apply just to Iron Man, it applies to every CBM they make.
superotherside - 4/25/2012, 7:45 AM
That actually sounds cool. Hope Mallen's in it though as a side villain. And they do not need to kill off Mandarin if they do put him in the story.
BlueMex - 4/25/2012, 7:51 AM
The real question here is if the Mandarin is not really the Mandarin, is he the Mandarin? lol
BRandom - 4/25/2012, 7:57 AM
Is anyone else reading this like I am? There will be no actual Mandarin (person) but a group of terrorist called The Mandarin?? IDK how i feel ab it, but I'll wait to hear more before I get my panties in a wad
PsyGuy - 4/25/2012, 7:57 AM
Awesome! So much more believable.
superotherside - 4/25/2012, 7:57 AM
Don't worry people we'll get the actual Mandarin, it's just he'll be slightly updated. Much as Thor told the origin of Loki and Red Skull didn't have a mask etc. But they will most likely remain true to the character. :D
Judecheung - 4/25/2012, 8:00 AM
i like it but...
iron man and another iron man fighting against iron men?
that sounds familiar...
superotherside - 4/25/2012, 8:00 AM
Kingsley could be playing the leader of "a group called The Mandarin"

Sounds like Kingsley will be the actual Mandarin at the end of the film to me. After they find all the rings.
MarkV - 4/25/2012, 8:00 AM
I'm not sure you guys read that very well. There will be no "Mandarin". Rather the group will be "The Mandarin".
Judecheung - 4/25/2012, 8:01 AM
we need some science vs magic stuff!!!
Vapes - 4/25/2012, 8:02 AM
So long as the dude's still "The Mandarin" as we know him and uses 10 rings (or 10 ring-like devices?)... yeah, I could care less what they call him.

"We're iron mongers, Tony."
"You wanna be the war machine?"

And that worked out just fine. If anything, it's on par for the series.
WolvieCBM - 4/25/2012, 8:02 AM
Interesting, interesting. Loving everything so far about this one. Great cast, and the "technological thriller" is just what I would like to see.
havoc9987 - 4/25/2012, 8:04 AM
I don't get this fear about having the Mandarin depecited the way he was in the comics there is nothing racist about an evil Chinese guy. There are evil guys in all countries, what is an evil American racist, NO so what the hell is the problem. The Mandarin is a cool character so why can't he get his chance to shine on the big screen. So because Magneto is Polish that makes it racist against Poland.
elessarundomiel2382 - 4/25/2012, 8:06 AM
i thought Chow Yun Fat was Chinese....why would China cut him out?
whatevillurks - 4/25/2012, 8:08 AM
I'm surprised China would even be cool with the white villians operating under the word.
MarkJulian - 4/25/2012, 8:08 AM
@elessarundomiel2382 B/c he was a villain so to speak and the Chinese government controls the media there and they do not tolerate films that show China in a negative light. Films that do are either severely edited or banned from playing.
Kayo - 4/25/2012, 8:12 AM
AC1 - 4/25/2012, 8:15 AM
If the group is called 'The Mandarin' then what about 'The Ten Rings'? I hope they establish the connection some how. Perhaps The Ten Rings refers to some kind of inner-circle of the Mandarin organisation, maybe ten leaders who each possess a ring (Raza from Iron Man, Kingsley's character, etc) or perhaps it's the opposite, and The Mandarin refers to the Chinese branch of the Ten Rings, led by Kingsley, who also happens to be the head of the whole organisation?

Raza wore a red ring in Iron Man, perhaps it's connected? I hope we get a scene where the Mandarin (Kingsley's character) collects his ten rings, maybe killing Raza to get his one. He better have his rings. And they better be magic too.

The Mandarin does need a slight update, but nothing too drastic. And I don't like the sound of that 'war of Iron Men'... It better just be Tony (and maybe Rhodey) in armour this time, there's no need to outfit everyone in this film with their own Iron Man suit.
Shaman - 4/25/2012, 8:17 AM
I want Andy Lau to be THE Mandarin and i don't care if he has to be Tony's friend first, and then get a huge reveal at the end.
MassExecutions - 4/25/2012, 8:18 AM
@havoc9987 - That's what I say!

So long as he's out for world domination and has rings with powers, he's the Mandarin. We may get him in the film yet.
MassExecutions - 4/25/2012, 8:18 AM
Also, the ten rings ARE NOT MAGIC!
TheAmarilloBlack - 4/25/2012, 8:19 AM
Do you noobs know nothing of The Mandarin? His rings utilize advanced alien TECHNOLOGY. No magic.

DUMB, Shane Black doesn't have a deep enough knowlege of The Mandarin if he thinks the character still represents a racist stereotype. He's been much better defined and refined in modern comics.

(not really, we'll be much less pleased, tho)
RaleighAntrobus - 4/25/2012, 8:19 AM
@nailbiter111 -

Welcome to Hollywood.
TheAmarilloBlack - 4/25/2012, 8:21 AM
SuperSomething616 - 4/25/2012, 8:24 AM
Makes sense...though with Iron Man existing in a universe that has asgardian gods, magic and cosmic cubes in now...not a hard push to have an insane oriental with alien power rings is it?
Shaman - 4/25/2012, 8:26 AM
Hell, i'd even be cool if Andy gets possessed by the alien tech against his will, like in Superman 3. JUST GIMME MY GODDAMN MANDARIN!!!
Ranger14 - 4/25/2012, 8:26 AM
Havoc@ I agree completely. Not sure about this take, but way too premature to say. If they don't work in the rings somehow, then I will be extremely disappointed. The rings are somewhat similar to how Thor talks about the powers they have in Asgaard. Humans may view it all as magic, but it can be science, just not science that we can explain. The rings are alien in origin and can be advanced technology as opposed to being magic and that has always been an ongoing discussion, so I have no issue with the rings being part of it regardless of how they approach Mandarin.
TheAmarilloBlack - 4/25/2012, 8:29 AM
"Oriental" is a racist term. The Mandarin is an insane Asian with alien power rings.
TheAmarilloBlack - 4/25/2012, 8:31 AM
I can totally see Lau being the mastermind in the guise of a friend to Tone. I doubt they'd hint at The Mandarin this long without following through. It's like making a Superman movie and having LEX be a multinational corporation bent on world conquest.

Don't jump the shark, Shane.
scapegoatjones - 4/25/2012, 8:32 AM
A group as The Mandarin is a dumb idea. I'll take just a single guy at the head of an organization, vaguely referred to as The Mandarin tyvm.

Watch out for the Doctor DOOMsday Device!

scapegoatjones - 4/25/2012, 8:34 AM

I heard that they actually prefer InsAsians, which is a contraction of your aforementioned "insane Asian".
superotherside - 4/25/2012, 8:36 AM
MarkV Not sure if you guys are reading this well either.

Neonpunch goes on to report that Kingsley could be playing the leader of "a group called The Mandarin"

I think Kingsley will be the Mandarin. The head of the origination that will get the ten rings and fight Tony and the rest of the Iron Men... but remember all of this is just a rumor. The Invaders where to show up in Captain America as well. LOL.
TheAmarilloBlack - 4/25/2012, 8:41 AM
Ah, thank you! lol
ThatHawkguy - 4/25/2012, 8:44 AM
Shaman - 4/25/2012, 8:44 AM

baldric33 - 4/25/2012, 8:45 AM
@TheAmarilloBlack Oriental is not a racist term, it is a socialloglical classification regading people from a particular hemispere. People from Russia, India and Japan are also classified as oriental. Just because a lot of morons misuse a term does not make it inherantly racist.
NickD - 4/25/2012, 8:48 AM
ben kingsley will be Temugin who is the mandarin
Fogs - 4/25/2012, 8:50 AM
I'm cool with that. As long as he's a real character related to the 10 rings organization I'm a happy guy.
JohnnyKrypton - 4/25/2012, 8:56 AM
"DUMB, Shane Black doesn't have a deep enough knowlege of The Mandarin if he thinks the character still represents a racist stereotype. He's been much better defined and refined in modern comics."


Well said, TAB
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