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Why Everyone Should Stop Complaining About TDKR

Why Everyone Should Stop Complaining About TDKR

A reveal of all the inaccurate complaints about the best comic book movie of the year.

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By deadpoolbeatsall - 12/20/2012
Okay The Dark Knight Trilogy is without a doubt one of the greatest trilogies of all time. Also, it is probably the best CBM trilogy of all time. It seems as if with the high expectations of the finale of the great trilogy, upon seeing it people have nitpicked it to death and most of these nitpicks are inaccurate. I'm going to list these complaints and explain them.

1. Batman Quits.




People are saying, because of Batman's dedication to the city he would never quit. What they fail to understand is he quit to save Gotham. If he continued with the police hunting him, the symbol of Batman would be gone, people wouldn't look at Batman and see a hero, they'd see a murderer who no one should aspire to be. Also, if you have a problem with this then you should also have a problem with The Dark Knight Returns, which is widely held as one of the greatest graphic novels of all time.

2. Bane Is A Henchman



BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN!BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! BANE IS NOT A HENCHMAN! If Bane is a henchman to Talia then Darth Vader is a henchman to The Emperor. Something like this was also in Arkham City where it turns out that Hugo Strange was working with Ra's Al Ghul, but you still see him as a formidable foe and Bane is still a very formidable foe. Bane and Talia are partners and Bane is a father figure to Talia not a love interest.


3. Bane Torturing Gotham For Months Is Pointless



He explains this while he is talking to Bruce in the prison. He says something like, there is a reason this prison is the worst hell on Earth, hope, many times has a man looked to the sky and imagined climbing to freedom, and that is what I'll do to your city. I vaguely recollect what exactly he said, but the isolation of the city wasn't pointless he was treating the people of Gotham like the people in the prison, he was giving the bad people a place to be crucified before their doom.

4. John "Robin" Blake



At the end, John Blake's real name is said to be Robin. Many people took this to mean he was going to be Robin and didn't like that, this what i say to those people: It was just a nod to the fans, Robin is a real name, If he became Robin it would be like Batman becoming a superhero named Bruce.

5. Batman's Only In It For About An Hour



This trilogy wasn't necessarily about Batman, sure he was the core character, but it was about Batman as a symbol and how people would react to Batman. In this movie, Batman is gone for the whole midsection and Gotham falls, it isn't a coincidence that when Batman comes back Gotham RISES again. That's what the whole movie was about when Bruce says Batman can be anybody he means everybody, so when the dark knight rises it means all the characters rise. Catwoman does when she comes back, John Blake does when he becomes Batman, and I assume more people of Gotham will don their own cape and become The Son's Of Batman I just wish this was explained.
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JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/20/2012, 12:02 PM
Do you know how many times Batman has been hunted by the police in both movies and tv shows?
He doesn't quit then. Because this isn't a job to him. It's who he is. The only out for Batman is death.

Vader was a pawn to Palpatine just like Bane is just a glorified henchman to Talia. Deal.

Robin was a cop out, not a nod. He saw how badly fans wanted a Robin to at least be mentioned, and so he just put the name "Robin" in there.
Also with this part I'd like to add his blatant spite of anything sidekick related. Gordons son was put on full display, but all they had to do was show he had a daughter and fanboys would've been pleased, because they would've known who it is. Barbara Gordon.

John Blake doesn't become Batman, lets just get that right out of the way.

"Anyone can be Batman" is a METAPHOR. As in EVERYONE has the capacity to be a hero, even if it's a simple gesture as putting a coat over a little boys shoulders. Anyone can be A Batman. But not anyone can be THE Batman. Especially a rookie cop who has very limited training in combat.
JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/20/2012, 12:03 PM
But as to the points I DIDN'T point out I actually agree with you there, there WAS a point to what he did to Gotham, it was to basically put salt in the decaying wound. Make them feel helpless and lost before they die.
HulkinOut - 12/20/2012, 12:52 PM
My view on the ending was not that bruce quit and handed the mantle to john blake as batman, but that bruce is simply hiatus and giving john blake directions to the batcave was to set him up as a partner to help fight crime with. The guy just saved gotham from becoming nuketown, I think the guy deserves alittle brake and let "ROBIN" hold things down till he gets back.
HulkinOut - 12/20/2012, 12:55 PM
For ppl who thing bruce quit being batman, do you guys rly thing that when the next baddy comes along and terrorizes the city, bruce wont show back up.
Spideyguy94 - 12/20/2012, 12:59 PM
Bane was just a henchman. The Darth Vader comparison doesn't work because in star wars the movie comes out and says vader is a just a pawn to this evil bastard. Vader needs to be a pawn to redeem himself and show you there was still good in him. It also adds to the story and it makes the scene where luke is getting fried by the emperor so powerful. The second its revealed that talia's behind it all bane is seriously degraded because it wasn't his doing, everything he says and does is either talia's doing or just him talking bullshit, And his motivations just go completely down the toilet, to the point of him having no motivations and only doing things because of talia. And before anyone say they both planned it, why would bane plan to avenge ra's al ghul? Ra's kicked him out so if anything bane would hate Ra's, Talia does have a reason to avenge Ra's, bane doesn't so that makes him talia's henchman.
TheRaven20 - 12/20/2012, 1:17 PM
I like your analogy of Darth Vader to Bane. That's exactly how I see it. He's not a pawn. He helps carry out Talia's and his plan.
MarvelLight - 12/20/2012, 1:23 PM
The issue with TDKR is that Nolan wasn't provided a story editor. He never took a step back and looked at what makes a better story. Sure you can explain some of this stuff, but their inclusion doesn't make the story better. What does Bruce being a shut-in for 8 years do to enhance the story? It also makes it very confusing when you think he goes from being a complete shut-in due to his Rachel's death, to sleeping with Talia after meeting her 3 times.

There are several instances of this, where Nolan creates an issue that the movie needs to resolve, but it just doesn't contribute at all to the story. It makes it meddled.

The biggest is Talia's and Bane's motivation. They were kicked out of the league, they hated her father, yet in his death they decide to carry out his work? There was no established motive for revenge. Why not just have them say to Batman "you think the league would solely depend on you to sack Gotham." A plan B is a much simpler and more coherant conclusion. Unfortunately Nolan never took a step back to think about how to make the best movie, not the most complicated.

I still liked the movie. I thought it was more fun than people give it credit for, but these issues certainly held it back from being as good as The Dark Knight.
Tainted87 - 12/20/2012, 1:23 PM
Le sigh...

You are desperate to defend this movie, and I really cannot fathom a reason apart from some youthful dedication to the series brought on by some ill-conceived notion that Christopher Nolan is somehow facing defamation because of this. He has his millions. He's doing just fine. Why else would the trailer for Man of Steel show his name attached as a producer? How often have you seen that in a trailer for a comic book movie?

You misunderstand Batman if you're thinking The Dark Knight Returns justifies 8 years of retirement. The Batman in that continuity is OLD. Not 40s old, not 50s old, but in his 60s! Robin had just been blown up by the Joker, and the government had declared that those "superheroes" not working for them, be hunted down. In that continuity, Bruce comes out of retirement because crime is getting beyond anyone's control, and random bouts of murder are happening all over the city every day. He feels he HAS to do something. He doesn't do it because he wants to go out fighting - he does it because that's the only way he can live with himself.

Now for you to consider that Gotham needs Batman to be a symbol they can look up to.... tells me you're not going to pay much attention to any disagreeable comments. But I'm going to hammer at your resolve anyway. If Gotham didn't need Batman, then why is he there? Why didn't Bruce pack up and move to some other place that did? He sure didn't do anything else during those 8 years.

The choice to not be Batman takes one night. The choice to continually sit on your ass doing nothing for eight years... takes eight years. That tells you that he has lost all desire to be Batman, simply because of Rachel, not because of the legal system and the "Dent Act".

Batman DOES NOT GIVE UP. He's lost SEVERAL people important to him over the years.... like hmmmmm.... his parents? Right in front of him.... when he was 9 years old (age varies).

Bane was a henchman. That didn't bother me - everyone has their purpose in a movie, even the master planner has his or her limitations. In the comics, Bane is a mercenary. He did the job he needed to. No complaints about Bane, apart from the voice.

And I can't believe you actually said the trilogy isn't necessarily about Batman.
BarnaclePete - 12/20/2012, 1:35 PM
He didn't quit being Batman. He quit being Bruce Wayne. Alfred says it himself when he's talking to Bruce how he was just waiting for things to go bad. Gotham didn't need him to be Batman because of the Dent Act. In the end when he went off with Selina it was because he found a reason to live. To be Bruce. It's not that complicated. He quit being Bruce because of what happened to Rachel. He didn't think he would have another reason to live. He always thought that after Batman he would be with her. Her death is why he quit Bruce, and the Dent Act ended the need to be Batman. Without those to things he had nothing until Bane gave him a reason to come back. It was what he was waiting for and wanted to happen.
UniBeam11 - 12/20/2012, 1:41 PM
Wow....totally compelling.....Havent heard these explanations before.
Spideyguy94 - 12/20/2012, 1:44 PM
@Tainted exactly, in The Dark Knight Returns he quits because he has pretty much no choice due to his age, the superhero ban and jason todd's death on his head. Batman is just way too driven to just quit, If anything he would become batman permanantly, becoming incredibly withdrawn from those closest to him like alfred, dick, tim and gordon.
teabag - 12/20/2012, 2:14 PM
Ill give you 5 reasons why people shouldn't give a shit what others think of TDKR











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5)





This Comment wasn't necessarily about Boobs, sure liking a good pair shows character, but it was about Boobs as a symbol and how people should react to Boobs. In this comment Boobs are missing for the first couple of lines for midsection, it isn't a coincidence that when Boobs comes back into the comment the male penis and the female sex drive RISES again. That's what the Boobs were about when i say Boobs can be for anybody i mean everybody, so when the penis rises it means all fans of boobs rise.

:P
TheHawkWithin - 12/20/2012, 2:38 PM
Can you guys just seriously give these damn articles a rest?
JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/20/2012, 2:57 PM
.... Do you REALLY think Bruce intends to come back?

He FAKED HIS DEATH.

You don't come back to town after that.
teabag - 12/20/2012, 2:59 PM
IDK the Mrs fakes her orgasms all the time..but I still go back for more :P
JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/20/2012, 3:05 PM
@Tea-... Well her faking or not doesn't really impact your experience. xD
marvel72 - 12/20/2012, 3:10 PM
if i want to complain about something i will,i'm not gonna stop because you want me to.
teabag - 12/20/2012, 3:11 PM
Damn right....im finnished way before she does that ;)
DrAwesome - 12/20/2012, 3:15 PM
What gets me is the fact that Bruce spent seven years training to be Batman, is only Batman for about two years, and then he quits for another eight. Also, number five on this list really pisses me off the whole reason you go to see a Batman movie is for Batman! Not the dumb as shit citizens of Gotham who thinks that a terrorist has their best interests at heart.
TheHawkWithin - 12/20/2012, 4:10 PM
@drawesome

He quit being Batman because he saved his city and he wasn't needed anymore.
Tainted87 - 12/20/2012, 4:39 PM
@BarnaclePete
A valid point, except "the Batman" didn't do anything for eight years. As I said, other places would definitely need him, and why on Earth wouldn't he want to get out of Gotham. And yes, I could actually see that working out perfectly even in the Nolan universe, where Batman is an international fugitive because he's been appearing all over the place. Alas, Batman was completely wasted.... because Bruce wanted to sit and mope and feel sorry for himself.

I mean damn, if all it took was Anne Hathaway to get him out of hiding, why couldn't Alfred have thought of that before?
"Hey look Master Bruce, this girl just stole your mother's pearls from your uncrackable safe! Go after her!"
(Hides pearls behind back)

Everything is pinned to Gotham, and it's such a horrendous ploy because NO ONE likes the characters apart from Gordon and maybe Blake. But Blake could have been anyone anywhere, didn't have to be some cop on the GCPD. Talia could have met Bruce in Monaco at a casino, where he'd intentionally let himself get beaten up by muggers to demonstrate what a self-loathing masochist he's become, determined to punish himself for his failure with Harvey and Rachel. Talia could have been the one to convince Bruce to save Gotham.
TheYoungMan - 12/20/2012, 5:39 PM
A lot of you guys don't understand that Batman vanishing after the events of TDK was the best thing Bruce could do for Gotham. It had nothing to do with Rachel.

And i don't care if the Dark Knight movies are accurate to the comics or not. It's damn great cinema, and that's all that matters. Any changes that were made were for the better, cinematically speaking.

Also disagree with eveything Tainted says.
JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/20/2012, 5:55 PM
Bruce dissapearing from Gotham did bunk. It did absolutely nothing for Gotham.
Spideyguy94 - 12/20/2012, 6:16 PM
@TheYoungMan You literally cannot accept any legitimate criticism of this movie. I think your missing the part that says COMIC BOOK in the site name. Your not a batman fan who actually reads the comics, your a Nolan fan why are you here? Why don't you go to site that is dedicated to Nolan?
UniBeam11 - 12/20/2012, 6:44 PM
I am sick of hearing the argument that Bruce giving up being Batman would have been the best thing for Gotham, that was definitely not the comic accurate or most compelling choice to make story-telling wise. The best thing would have been him staying Batman, the ultimate sacrifice would have been him continuing his Batcapades to keep the guise of the "villain" and keeping Dent's name in tact. Him giving up Batman just meant in a matter of time Dent would have been outed, how is that the heroic thing to do? he even said at the end of TDK that let them chase him, let them come after him, he can be that man, but he reneged on that big time.
VIRILEMAN - 12/20/2012, 8:25 PM
The fact people have talked for months about how bad this movie was just goes to show IT REALLY WAS BAD. When The Avengers came out, all we talked about for months was how awesome it was.

I also learned that Batman fans will defend anything with Nolan and Batman's name on it. The movie had SOOOO many problems.
JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/20/2012, 8:53 PM
@Virileman- I'm a Batman fan through and through, and I can't STAND TDKR.
MarvelLight - 12/20/2012, 10:12 PM
What did having him give up for 8 years contribute to the story? Was there anything about it that actually made the movie better?

The movie is full of stuff that doesn't actually make the movie better. It's complexity sake for complexity sake. Justifying these things doesn't change that.
TheYoungMan - 12/21/2012, 2:45 AM
I don't NEED to refute any points, because i don't give a CRAP about the comics when it comes to movies. Get it? When i'm watching a movie, all i care about is that the creators made all the best choices for the movie. I don't think "ERM... BATMAN WUDIN'T DO DAT". My point is that all the changes that were made from the comics, throughout the trilogy, were made for the better. Because those changes create a better movie. They might make shitty comic books, but they make great movies. What works in a comic doesn't necessarily work as well in a movie.

Let me ask you guys this...

Would you rather have a shitty movie that is accurate to the comic source, or a great movie that makes some deviations?
LEEE777 - 12/21/2012, 3:28 AM
BOOOBIES beat TDK easy!!!! : D

Bane was a Big Boobie anyways ; D

Hey its an ok film, just no masterpiece comic book movie, the fact the last 5 minutes pissed all over Batman didn't help, but so much more wrong with it not even funny!

<<< Only seen it once so far yet seen Avengers like 5 times says it all for a diehard comic book movie fan!

So glad its the end and don't have to see a Robin spin off :p

Bring on JUSTICE LEAGUE!!!!
LEEE777 - 12/21/2012, 3:31 AM
Ahhh we still got WATCHMEN, BATMAN BEGINS and THE DARK KNIGHT!
Spideyguy94 - 12/21/2012, 3:41 AM
@TheYoungMan Here's the thing, there is nothing wrong with deviating from source material which the first 2 did great. But when ADAPTING something you need to get at least some thing's right like oh I don't know THE POINT OF THE CHARACTER. The whole deal with batman is that he protects people so they don't have to suffer the pain he did. While it doesn't hit you over the head with it, it is said. Here is something I'd like you to defend. Bruce has no cartilage in his knee which is a serious problem. My aunt had the same problem with her knee and she had to have 2 operations, a knee replacement and a years worth of rehabilitation. Yet Bruce just puts on a magic knee brace and his knee is fine. And don't say something like its just a movie, because you nolanites go on about how much depth and intelligent this movie has. Like I said before why don't you go to a site that is dedicated to Nolan.
TheYoungMan - 12/21/2012, 4:43 AM
You can agree with the adaptation or disagree, which is fine. But Nolan's Bruce Wayne/Batman was 100% consistent throughout the trilogy. If you have a problem with TDKR, then it's the same problem with BB and TDK. His goal was clear from the beginning. He saw Batman as a temporary solution FOR HIM, but a permanent solution for Gotham (I'm assuming that's your beef with Nolan's Batman, right?). This theme runs throughout the entire trilogy. Bruce retiring happily to Italy with Gotham inspired, protected, and self-sustaining was simply the follow-through of the themes that were set up in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. So i don't know why everyone (or some) all of a sudden has a problem with Batman being a short-term plan for Bruce.

I mean seriously, what did you guys think was the point of all the "Batman is a symbol" talk?

Or the "Batman doesn't want to do this forever, he's looking for someone to take up his mantle" talk?

We all knew going into this movie that it would end with Bruce no longer being Batman. Whether he died and passed on the mantle, or found happiness and passed on the mantle. It was happening one way or another. And the happy ending makes much more sense in the context of the trilogy (not necessarily the context of the entire Batman mythos). Considering all the personal challenges and problems he had, to actually overcome them and accomplish everything he set out to do in the first two movies. It's a beautiful thing.
TheYoungMan - 12/21/2012, 5:20 AM
^I understand what you're saying, KnightofSteel. I've been a Batman fan all my life, i know what Bruce's motivations are in the comics. I'm saying that his goals are different in the movies, and those changes work much better as a piece of cinema than a perfect adaptation would. It's important to have an end-game in movies. Something for the character to strive for. Instead of just "protecting Gotham forever".
Tainted87 - 12/21/2012, 9:26 AM
TheYoungMan is a die-hard Nolan fanatic. Nolan could have directed Batman and Robin and he would call it a masterpiece. His views won't change no matter how much logic and reasoning is submitted, because it will disagree with Chris Nolan.

You know what the difference is between Nolan's Batman and the real Batman is?


Self. Made. Hero.
Not part of the coastal clean-up crew.
ACira - 12/21/2012, 9:28 AM
1. Actually, in The Dark Knight Returns it deals with Bruce coming out of retirement after quitting, because he felt quitting was the wrong decision. Then at the end, he quits his life as Bruce Wayne to be Batman full time.

2. Bane absolutely IS a henchman, when he should've been a mastermind.

3 and 4 are fair points that I've always agreed with

5. Batman is severely underutilized in this film, but it is a minor problem in a film that is riddled with other, bigger problems.

I'm a huge fan of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight (and Chris Nolan's filmography in general), and I think, as a fan, my opinion that this film was subpar is perfectly valid, because I believe that being a true fan of something or someone means that you're able to identify the bad parts rather than ignore and accept them as falsely good. Every director has disappointing films in their filmography; Tarantino has Death Proof, Scorsese has a couple, Francis Ford Coppola and even Alfred Hitchcock had some too. And in my honest opinion, Chris Nolan has The Dark Knight Rises. It's a shame that this was the one that seemed to disappoint the same number of people that loved it, but there we go. And hey, as far as directors' worst films go, to count a film like The Dark Knight Rises as your worst is still something of an achievement.
Spideyguy94 - 12/21/2012, 11:38 AM
@Sotojuiceman so what your saying is if you didn't like this movie your not a batman fan. Well I absolutely love batman he's my 2nd favourite fictional character. But this movie just didn't do it for me. And it's not a piece of shit like people are making it out to be, but I find to be very overrated. And when I walked out of the movie theatre I absolutely loved it, but the second I started to think about it and talk to my friends about it the problems become very clear. Again I don't think it's a bad movie it's a good movie.
Spideyguy94 - 12/21/2012, 12:11 PM
@Sotojuiceman never mind that part about you have to be a batman fan I hadn't read what you said properly
TheYoungMan - 12/21/2012, 1:09 PM
@Tainted87

"TheYoungMan is a die-hard Nolan fanatic. Nolan could have directed Batman and Robin and he would call it a masterpiece. His views won't change no matter how much logic and reasoning is submitted, because it will disagree with Chris Nolan."

I don't make uneducated assumptions about you. So i expect the same treatment in return, ok? I disagree with your thoughts on the movie. Accept it without trying to undermine my credibility. That's very weak. I already laid out my thoughts on this movie and the trilogy as a whole in this thread. If you don't agree, fine. But please, cut the "blind fanboy" crap.
teabag - 12/21/2012, 1:09 PM
The acting was very good..if somewhat overdramatic..the photography was good and the script im sure is fantastic

None of the things people nitpick at bother me and neither did I see any plot holes

I was just bored titles and yes I attempted to watch it again to see if maybe I was wrong with my first experience...I got halfway through and was bored titles again...so no...I very much doubt ill watch it again :P
Spideyguy94 - 12/21/2012, 1:56 PM
@Sotojuiceman I agree, batman 89 does not get bats due to the fact he kills and it doesn't focus on batman as a character neither do the 3 after that. I remember when i was around 6 or 7 and watching batman returns and seeing bats kill people and watching an episode of batmz TAS the same day and thinking why doesn't batman just kill this guy, and this is before i picked up my first batman comic. years later it showed me how weak 89 was and how strong TAS os. BB was the first True batman movie IMO. If you watch the special features on BB it shows you a lot of the things they adapted specifically year one. I think this shows how people can respectfully disagree on something.
Squaremaster - 12/21/2012, 2:00 PM
"Do you know how many times Batman has been hunted by the police in both movies and tv shows?"

Uh, Zero.

The only time it even came close was during that episode where Barbara had a dream where she died and Gordon tried to hunt Batman down.

Bruce Wayne is the main character in these films, that was the whole point behind Nolan's Bat films, but I guess some forgot that and expect Bruce to be some off panel character that no one talks about.
dellamorte1872 - 12/21/2012, 3:25 PM
yeah that was a dick move @SQUARE. you have a layman's view of this mythology no offense but i wouldnt act like i knew what was what.
JokerFanHAhaHA - 12/21/2012, 3:26 PM
@squaremaster-
Or.. youknow... Actually LIKE the character that it's adapting.

Batman isn't a cop.
Batman doesn't care if the cops like him.
And he doesn't care of the cops agree with him.

If he did, then he would BECOME a cop, and not Batman.
VIRILEMAN - 12/21/2012, 4:19 PM
Has it really come to this? "Stop making fun of my favorite movie! WAAAH!"
Squaremaster - 12/21/2012, 4:20 PM
Batman 89: At the start of his career, but not due to killing cops and innocent people.

Year One: A corrupt commissioner and swat teams are trying to kill him and Batman isn't attempting to take the blame of a DA's murders. They expose them in the end and get them off of Batman's back.

Batman Returns: The hijacked joy ride is conveniently forgotten about by the police, easily the worst, most lazily written occurrence of Batman/police friction.

Batman Begins: See '89

Dark Knight: Not until the end, which led to the events in TDKR.

TDKR: He came out one once in public view and it was a struggle to escape the cops. Do you think he could do that a few hundred times and come out smelling like a rose each time?
teabag - 12/21/2012, 4:41 PM
Smallville was supposed to be about Clark..Doesn't mean it didn't suck :P


just to make it clear

smallville sucks :D
DDD - 12/21/2012, 8:23 PM
LEEE@ said it all when he said, "TDKR pisses all over BATMAN.

This was NOLAN pissing all over BATMAN and showing his
contempt for SUPERHEROES & comics. SUPERHEORES aren't
realism, they just aren't. BATMAN has had ROBINS, sidekicks,
in comics and should have them in movies.

BATMAN never QUITS while he is young enough to be BATMAN!
BRUCE is BATMAN and the only one who is BATMAN until he can
do it no more.

All comic book movie fans should hate NOLAN instead of love
him! He twisted BATMAN into something he is not.

In TDKR he has BATMAN doing so many things against his
nature it is ludicrous, even in TDK he had BATMAN/BRUCE
beating the crap out of THE JOKER in JAIL, JAIL of all
places! BATMAN would never do that no matter what! He
would use his brain, his immensely-skilled brain!

COMIC BOOK MOVIES are about SUPERHEROES, if the hero IS a
superhero.

NOLAN doesn't understand BATMAN AT ALL!
NOLAN doesn't understand superheroes & villains.
NOLAN pisses on them!
marvel72 - 12/22/2012, 5:17 AM
i love how if you don't like this movie you're a marvel fan,a lot of users on this site are in denial its nowhere near as good as the previous two movies & most of them like it for the sake of it & just won't admit the movie has problems.
marvel72 - 12/22/2012, 3:22 PM
@ knightofsteel

i'm the same i like marvel more than dc but i like both companies,from comics to movies both have good & bad ones.
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