Comic Book Movie Fans Are Ruining Comic Book Movies

Comic Book Movie Fans Are Ruining Comic Book Movies

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By kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013
To Comic Book/Comic Book Movie Fans:

We all need to calm down & take a deep breath. I'm not going to deny that I have some heated discussions and fervent opinions regarding comic book films but I'm noticing things around me and I don't like what I see. As a comic book movie fan, I have to say that we are the most unfair, overly judgmental, narrow-minded, violent, relentlessly critical lot of individuals EVER. It's hard for comic book movies to be successful or enjoyed anymore because of the bleeding heart fanatics who swear that they know what everyone wants to see, who should be cast in what role, and who should direct what film. We seem to be under the impression that we know what's best & that we are capable of dictating how these fictional pieces of work should be delivered to the public.

Before films even make it to the big screen, they're torn to shreds by the masses of people who thrive on bashing movies and their actors. YOU, the fans are the ones who make it hard for us other fans to enjoy these films. Have Marvel & DC always made excellent decisions regarding the making of their films? No. However, no matter what they do, they're damned if they do & they're damned if they don't. There are always the people who consider themselves certified critics and experts on the source material. If you don't like a film or the people cast in it, don't go see it, don't acknowledge it, don't open your mouths. I'm not going to judge comic book movies anymore until AFTER I've seen them and all of the hard work people spend their lives putting into them! I won't be one of you relentless fans anymore. We tend to forget that the film industry is a BUSINESS in which cinematic works are delivered to get audiences interested in various properties. Die hard comic book fans have been led to believe that movies have to meet their expectations and be made the way they envision them. New franchises, reboots, and versions of timeless characters emerge everyday which is a beautiful thing because there is literally a hero out there for everyone. Maybe we all have a different vision of Superman, Spider-Man, or various other characters but that doesn't mean we have to scorch and discriminate against the versions that don't line up with what we expect. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We can like what we like and dislike what we don't. The issue is HOW we express those opinions. More often than not, extreme comic book fans scoff at every decision made by the studios without merit or without a solid and grounded reason.


This recent casting of Ben Affleck as Batman serves as a perfect example of how over-the-top fans can be and how they blow things entirely out of proportion. Really? A petition in the works to be submitted to Obama to ban Ben Affleck from playing the role? What's next? Death threats? Who the hell do you guys think you are?! If you're so vehemently against this film being made in the manner in which it is, GO MAKE YOUR OWN MOVIE! I'll end my rant with this....Does anyone remember the reactions to Heath Ledger being cast as Joker in The Dark Knight?
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kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 6:11 PM
Agreed
Highflyer - 8/23/2013, 6:17 PM
Ben Affleck will not be the last batman. So if the haters want to bitch, they can wait until they make another new batman after the next decade.
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 6:23 PM
@highflyer, you're absolutely right in saying that Affleck won't be the last to play Batman. Somewhere down the line, there will always be someone new. Hugh Jackman can't play Wolverine forever, nor can Robert Downey Junior play Iron Man forever. The point is, there is too much bitching and hating
SauronsBANE - 8/23/2013, 6:34 PM
The thing is, I've noticed that a lot of comic book fans (this community in particular) seems to think that it's easy to make movies. It's even easier to make comic book movies, just make it exactly like the comics, right??

Yeah, no. It takes MASSIVE amounts of effort to create a movie, and at some point they have to make decisions that are bound to piss someone off. Problem is, everyone seems to think they're the world's best critic and that their version is the best and only version.

Get off your high horses. If you like the comic book version of Batman, stick with that. Nolan's Batman didn't ruin the comics, Shane Black's Mandarin didn't erase the comics version, and Ben Affleck's Batman isn't going to suddenly negate anything that came before it.

It's okay to debate movies and casting decisions to your heart's content, just try not to be a douche about it. Great article sir, you definitely have a mindset that's desperately needed on this site!
Irons - 8/23/2013, 6:38 PM
It's pathetic. There are some who have been writing that they hope Affleck gets injured during training/production.

Get the [frick] over yourselves.
Reasonnnn - 8/23/2013, 6:39 PM
BUT GUYS ANT MAN CREATED ULTRON
Wingding - 8/23/2013, 6:43 PM
I completely agree. I for one am excited to see what Affleck does with the role. Granted, I really hope he doesn't completely screw the pooch and make a terrible Batman, but I'm not going to judge until I saw FOOTAGE
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 7:04 PM
@SauronsBANE1, thank you for the support and encouragement. I agree, it's very easy for these fans to critique every film that's released from the comfort of their chairs & blogs, not realizing what a massive effort goes into producing these movies. You're right, the studios can't please everyone. Their objective is to appeal to the audiences but also bring in new audiences so that the popularity of these characters can grow. I think it's very possible to have a civil discussion/debate about comic book movies without such unbiased and passionate hatred.
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 7:06 PM
@Irons I wouldn't be surprised if Ben Affleck starts receiving death threats.
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 7:07 PM
@wingding, you make an excellent point. We need to see footage in order to have some basis for our opinions. I'm excited to see what comes out of this.
thenerdicon4 - 8/23/2013, 7:22 PM
the comic book fandom is one of the most bitter fandoms out there...Oh wait... That goes to the Star Wars fandom. But we do cross over A LOT so its fine. but yeah, we need to get over some of this stuff. I have never bitched about a movie because it wasnt "close to source material" or because it had an actor i didnt like before the movie even came out. I normally critique the story, the characters and the actual acting IN the movie. That is how you judge a film.
H3LLBLAZER - 8/23/2013, 7:36 PM
I f*cking hate Marvel fan girls. You guys are just like the biber fans, and the twilight fans that is why I refer to you guys as Marvel tweens. You have a huge boner for Marvel, and in your eyes they can do no wrong, even though they have done wrong. You guys are a bunch of biased hypocritical blind sheep. You whine, conplain, and bitch towards anything DC does. You guys tried to ruin the TDK trilogy, and Man Of Steel. You guys complained about Bale, and know that DC is getting someone different you f%ckers complian. You guys ruined Marvel for me. Smh, really creating a petition lol. Their is no depths to how low you bastards will sink. Hypocrites, you guys were complaining about nolanites? Well guess what you guys are worst, and you can't even see it, because you guys have blind folds over your eyes hypocrites.
H3LLBLAZER - 8/23/2013, 8:04 PM
You f%ckers ruin everything, and why do I always hear the same sh!t from you Marvel turds all the time? "Batman is a Marvel character, he should be a Marvel character". WTF? First of all Batman is DC through, and through. He has been since 1939 before Marvel even existed.

I know why guys always say this. Its because you guys are jealous that DC owns such a Legendary character, and you guys wish Marvel owned him, because you guys know that Batman is better than every character Marvel owns.

Batman is legendary in every media he has been in, and you guys are jealous that Marvel doesn't have any legendary characters.

Live action TDK, Cartoon shows Batman animated series, video games Arkham series, Animated films Under the hood, The Dark Knight Retuns part 1 and 2, Batman Mask Of The Phantasm, Comics The Dark Knight Returns>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beats anything any Marvel character has done.

kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 8:06 PM
@MarkOfTheDemon I can see that this editorial I posted went over your head because your contribution to the comments serves as an example of the kind of unbiased hatred and stupidity we want to avoid when it comes to discussing comic book fans. There's no reason to start a war between Marvel & DC fans. As a fan of both sides, I'll share my opinion. If people want to gloat about Marvel's success with movies, then they have every right to. Marvel has had a very successful run with their films (they've had some failures too, but unlike DC, they learn from their mistakes). Marvel is successful in the sense that they have a solid creative team running the show, namely Kevin Feige & Joss Whedon who ensure that their films are able to stand on their own in addition to creating a shared universe. DC has very popular and loved characters but fails to strategize or take a structured approach to making their movies work. For nearly over a decade, DC has relied solely on milking Batman and is STILL in fact milking him. Rather than focusing on drawing audiences in using other characters. If you're going to express your opinion, do it with merit, minimal grammatical errors and some solid reasons.
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 8:11 PM
@MarkOfTheDemon a character's reputation as legendary is both a matter of opinion & a matter of their significance in pop culture. While Batman is certainly legendary, as you would put it, there is no denying the significance of characters like Spider-Man, the X-men & the Avengers. The X-men & Spiderman have had a number of animated series and films, videogames, and various other adaptations. You are measuring the success of things Batman has been involved in merely based on your opinion.
Lhornbk - 8/23/2013, 8:25 PM
@Markofthedemon, I was wrong in my comment on a different thread. You're not kind of a DC troll, you are in fact the ultimate DC fanboy troll. This thread had nothing to do with Marvel vs. DC, but you put up 2 horrible posts trying to turn it into that. Seriously now, get a life.

@thenerdicon4, no, actually I think Star Trek fanboys might be the worst, but comic book fanboys and Star Wars fanboys are not far behind.

I don't think it's comic book MOVIE fans that are the problem. It's comic BOOK fanboys who think the movies should be just like the comics. There are lots of the movie fans who never read the comics (the majority, actually), and hopefully the studios will ignore the fanboys and keep making films for us.
H3LLBLAZER - 8/23/2013, 8:26 PM
@kingkryptonite87

Sorry, I'm writing from my phone. But getting back to the subject, DC is building towards the Justice League with Worlds Finest, and dude no Marvel character has ever been as good as Batman on every media like he has.
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 8:32 PM
@MarkOfTheDemon I'm well aware of what DC is trying to accomplish with their films because I follow the production & news of these films religiously. Again, you are comparing Batman & the entirety of Marvel based on OPINION. Nothing that you've posted has had any validity or solid ground to base your opinions on. I would refrain from contributing to these posts if I were you. I agree with Lhornbk, you are indeed a DC fanboy troll.
H3LLBLAZER - 8/23/2013, 8:47 PM
@Lhornbk
WTF? I'm not a DC troll, I was a Marvel fan until all of these Marvel turds ruined it for me. So don't assume sh!t that you don't know
H3LLBLAZER - 8/23/2013, 9:07 PM
@kingkryptonite87

Dude, its not an opinion its a fact look it up for yourself. Compair every thing I posted to everything every Marvel character has done, and you'll see that they can't touch what Batman has done on EVERY media. Key word EVERY, not just comics not just movies EVERY media.
Tainted87 - 8/23/2013, 9:09 PM
I was really embarrassed by the news of petitions and well, just how much of a freakin backlash the news got.

For a good handful of us though, like levi, cipher, firg, highflyer, kevberg, jduke, blackjack, 2challa, darking, and a few others... it was a call for a celebration. We kept a thread going for over 30 pages (I stayed for 30), mostly for fun, but also to try and balance out the folks drinking haterade.

Ben's a smart guy though. I know he's heard about it plenty by now, but I hope he doesn't get discouraged.
kingkryptonite87 - 8/23/2013, 9:46 PM
@MarkOfTheDemon can you please elaborate on what you mean by "Marvel turds ruined it for me?" How have Marvel fans ruined it (whatever that is) for you and seriously, they made you not be a Marvel fan anymore? And no, there is no place where myself nor anyone can look up these supposed facts that you're claiming to be true. While Batman is indeed currently the most popular and preferred superhero, most of his success is attributed to the Arkham-based videogames and the Nolan-verse trilogy. I cannot compare what you have posted to everything every Marvel character has done:
1) because nothing you posted has been coherent or made any sense whatsoever
2) you are clearly a blinded and narrow minded batman fan who belongs with all the nutcases signing petitions against Ben Affleck.

Ramiel - 8/23/2013, 9:55 PM
You probably are the type who embraces everything the government does and tells you, while hating the citizens who say that the gov't is being unconstitutional, huh?
GeekyCheekyChic - 8/23/2013, 9:57 PM
About damn time someone wrote something like that. The stupid petition thing really was unnecessary. Far too many idiots in the world.
Great write up. Whole heartedly agree.
TheWolverine08 - 8/23/2013, 9:58 PM
@MarkOfTheDemon Nice stereotype of all Marvel fans............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Nerfherder1 - 8/23/2013, 10:00 PM
#BEENTERTAINED.... 100% agree
shaunmagg - 8/23/2013, 10:02 PM
@ kingkryptonite87 You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. Your responses are of a professional manner with merit and facts and not just wine wine wine. Well played sir, well played...
TheRationalOne - 8/23/2013, 10:02 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself. And God knows, I've tried. Repeatedly.
Amazing512 - 8/23/2013, 10:06 PM
@MaskOfTheDemon This article might as well be talking about you.
CoulsonLives - 8/23/2013, 10:07 PM
Remember these guys?





All had fanboy hate... Nuff Said.
TheWolverine08 - 8/23/2013, 10:10 PM
I'm iffy on Ben Affleck playing Batman, but I'll wait and see. People said RDJ couldn't play Iron Man, Hugh Jackman couldn't play Wolverine, Heath Ledger couldn't play Joker, etc. and we ended up being wrong.
TheRationalOne - 8/23/2013, 10:13 PM
Well, we officially have our douche of the article.
billnye69 - 8/23/2013, 10:15 PM
This is the true answer, history has proven it 1000s of times.

CBMs have become to popular and popularity attracts the lower end of society because they aren't really fans, they are bandwagners and hitchhikers who are only here because it's the latest trend. "Oh, that's popular right now, all of a sudden I have an opinion on the subject", "I loved comics since forever, wait.....who's the guy with the S again?"

The other evil that comes with popularity is over saturation. It happens in all forms of media video games (CoD), books (Vampires), TV (Reality Shows).

The golden years of anything are when it's underground and only the people who truly have an interest in the subject are present.

Popularity ruins everything is touches and it's CBMs turn to drink the poison.
daveB - 8/23/2013, 10:17 PM
The result of complaining about CBM's so much that they fail will not be better movies but NO movies. They will go by they wayside like westerns. Go see every CBM you can-have an opinion but enjoy they are made at all. I was not thrilled with Green Lantern but at least I got to see it in the screen.
Super12 - 8/23/2013, 10:18 PM
Well said, sir. Well said.

Two thumbs up.
CoulsonLives - 8/23/2013, 10:18 PM
And this is why... We don't have Girlfriends... Well... Most of us... :(
PeterDarker - 8/23/2013, 10:18 PM
Pulpit rock
ohsoserious - 8/23/2013, 10:20 PM
This article echoed everything I feel about this site!! Too much crying about stupid things like the change of the mandrin and man of steel in general (both movies I loved by the way) but it just gets old coming on here and seeing all this hate. Move on with your live people they don't make the movies for just you its made for everyone to enjoy.
CoulsonLives - 8/23/2013, 10:20 PM
Let's all be glad we are getting CBM's... GEEZ!
CoulsonLives - 8/23/2013, 10:22 PM
Big G! Put this as the HEADLINE please
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