Remakes and Sequels... Where's the New Ideas?

Remakes and Sequels... Where's the New Ideas?

Tired of adaptions, remakes, sequels, prequels, based on a true story/book/action figure/board game? Or maybe you just want more original ideas from Hollywood. Leave your comments here. Let's talk about this.

I’m a steady patron of this site. I love comic books, super heroes, and seeing these stories and character come to life on the big screen. I love seeing inspiring true stories being portrayed by masterful film makers. I applaud all the good book adaptations, satisfying sequels, respectful remakes and reboots, and every generally “adapted” movie out there…

But I also hate them.

When I go to see a movie based on something I’m already familiar with, a certain enjoyment gets traded for fandom. Some of my most enjoyable film going experiences was films that I went in to watch knowing no more than the title, things that were original and fresh. The Prestige, Sunshine, and Moon are a few examples of original films that I had no idea about before watching it. No trailers, no reviews, no word of mouth, no knowledge of books… just a title at the box office and an available showing.

As I sat there, watching, I was immersed in awe and magic. The movie rolled along with me completely gripped, wondering what was going to happen next. I wasn’t waiting for the “moment” shown in the trailers. I had no idea which direction the story would take. 100% surprised and 100% satisfied. Nothing ruined, nothing spoiled, all fresh, all new.

Do you all know this feeling? There’s so much marketing and so many films already based on things familiar to us, I wonder how many of you have seen a good movie without knowing a thing about it before it started.

I love comic book films along with all the sequels and such. I’m not saying they should go away. There is a place for them. But it seems that almost EVERYTHING is based on previously familiar material… from a true story, a comic book, a novel, another movie, a tv show, a video game, a freaking board game…. I was hard pressed to name original BLOCKBUSTERS out there. While independent films still show that spark of an original idea, most blockbusters revert to “existing fanbase” to create their ideas. I feel it’s been a while since we had as big of a new experience film like Raiders of the Lost Arc, Star Wars. And when we do see one, they're few and far between.

I worry that the well will run dry. That Hollywood will just make sequels and reboots until every last source of ideas is drained. I worry that original ideas and concepts, stories built from scratch, are a dying breed. I feel the ratio of reboot/sequel/adaptions to fresh, new, and unknowns are extremely unbalanced. This even goes for comics and superheroes as well. We constantly cry for Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man… what about a new hero with a new origin and set of powers never seen before, introduced through film without starting in a panel on a page?

Hollywood needs to give new ideas a chance. If anything the past has shown that original ideas like Avatar, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Inception, and The Matrix can be extremely profitable and just as likely to succeed. Even more than that, adaptations are putting people off and tiring them out, like Green Lantern, Battleshit [sic], John Carter!

In a nutshell: Grow a pair, Studios! And take a risk with original ideas more. Directors, actors, and audiences relish in it… why don’t you?
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Loki
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14 Comments
LEEE777 - 1/5/2013, 3:54 AM
There isn't none, well many.

Pity but true, can just hope Hollywood doesn't too much destroy are beloved characters we grew up with comic wise.

Its all the crappy remakes that gets me, an the new Robocop, omg what is that! :P

I say now Hollywood, never remake the STAR WARS trilogy...ever!

Original ideas are great but also there's a lot of comic book characters never touch on from Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, Image and all the other Indies that could be mind blowing on the big screen or some I suppose on small too.
OcciferPing - 1/5/2013, 4:36 AM
I completely agree with you.

I don't mean to be a troll here, but as a fellow film student that despises remakes and believes in originality, you NEED to check out this YouTube link. This is EXACTLY what you're looking for, especially since it's a superhero movie that isn't MARVEL or DC and is going for a hard R rating. It's based off a trilogy of novels that I'm publishing (2 already published). I already wrote the script for the feature film version of the 1st one.

Check it out and if you like it, tell your friends. The more views/support we have on it, the better chances we have of getting a studio to sign for one. We're trying to get the word out on this before we film the test footage for it next month. Video will explain it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrUX8bJeX9Y
CorndogBurglar - 1/5/2013, 5:13 AM
You know, this gets brought up in articles about 40 times a year.

its funny because in reality, there are far more original films that come out every year than reboots, remakes, and adaptations.

Its true.

And in all honesty, whats wrong with a sequel if its a sequel of an original movie, like Taken 2. As far as I know, Taken is not based on anything. So i would still consider the sequel to be original...even if it wasnt very good.

Now i'll agree that a lot of the original films are not things i would normally be interested in. But you did mention Avatar, and as much as i despised that movie, it really was an original movie that was not an adaptation.

And complaining about the marketing and all the trailers and how there aren't any movies that come out that you havent seen previews for? Good luck with that. The movie industry has been like that for ages. You mentioned Sunshine and Moon. Those movies were never in theatres as far as i know. It sounds to me like you just want everything to be done Indy style. Well Indy films in themselves can be good, if all movies went thag route, the film industry would crumble because ghe general audience would have no idea what movies were coming out.

There are definately great movies out there. The horror genre is definately lacking lately, yet movies like V/H/S get completely overlooked. Mostly because it was not on theatres and there was no advertising for it. Its a double edged sword. Either make a movie and advertise it and make money. Or make a movie, dont advertise it at all, and make no money.

What would you choose if you were a movoe studio? Its not a tough decision.
iuhgluiblbjjkhkjhkljh - 1/5/2013, 5:31 AM
Complaining about Hollywood- wheres the new ideas?
DrDoom - 1/5/2013, 7:02 AM
Films based on new ideas are released every year. If you don't want to see reboots/remakes, don't go see them.
TheNightmare - 1/5/2013, 7:05 AM
Got to say I never really worry about if it is a remake, adaption, or original stuff as long as it is a good movie.

I have been hearing this Hollywood is not original complaints for a while and don't understand it. When movies like avengers, dark knight rises, skyfall, and The Hobit do we'll that are adaptions. Then there is Seven Psychopaths, and Cloud Atlas (Which all I hear is about how original it is) flop.

Like I said don't care as long as it is good like Django Unchained which was awesome. Only bring it up because it was the most recent movie I have seen.
Jollem - 1/5/2013, 9:47 AM
yeah, they've been doing this stuff since the dawn of ideas. "hope for the best" is what i usually go with
dezdigi - 1/5/2013, 10:34 AM
Let each film stand on its own merit. Some fail, some succeed regardless of whether it's an adaptation or not.
AC1 - 1/5/2013, 11:46 AM
The early years of cinema in France (as in the birth of cinema) was pretty much based on the first film directors copying each other. Remakes have been a staple of cinema since it began, because it means there will be a ready made fan-base for the movie. That's why adaptations, like CBMs, etc, do so well - they already have a fan-base in the form of comic fans.

Hell, even your examples of Indiana Jones and Star Wars are respectively based on Secret of the Incas and Flash Gordon.

It'd be great to see more original material, but people are running out of ideas and have been ever since they started. The best we can hope for is old ideas presented in new and interesting ways.
tonytony - 1/5/2013, 11:59 AM
franchises are less risky, if you take a decent franchise and make a good move you will have a hit. You can make a good movie without any prior fans or hype and no one sees it. Studios have targets like all companies and they ultimately want to make money.

Originality is always there but not so much incentive to invest in it as everyone has targets and want to get the hit as opposed to the original movie.

DukeAcureds - 1/5/2013, 1:00 PM
I've got them all and I'm keeping them all to myself! Muahahahahahahahahhah!!!!!
Okay, here's one you can have:
A woman searches for a sandwich filler on the internet that se had when she was a little girl and can't find it anywhere. A mad scientist guy tries to give birth ti a child of his and the internet's, so that a new artificial cybernetic life-form can evolve and accidentally comes across this sandwich. He orders the sandwich as a celebratory meal. The sandwich is delivered with uncanny speed. The woman, meanwhile has sunk into a deep depression to both the lack of this sandwich (which to her encapsulates everything pure and good about her childhood) and the lack of any kind of man, in her life. She contemplates suicide, but searches, instead, for her sandwich, online. The man decides top eat his sandwich early, whilst his mad experiment is achieved. Success. The internet is pregant with a half human child!
But it is not only half-human. It is also part sandwich.The woman finds the sandwich on a different website and orders it. The sandwich is delivered by the same delivery girl that delivered the man his sandwich. Only, she's not quite the same. She flickers with cybernetic static, on her way out. The woman does not notice this but eats the sandwich anywhere and...
I realy don't know where I'm going with this. Stream of conciousness. I was going to say that Hollywood should try it, sometime, but maybe not, huh?
GreenHalJordan - 1/5/2013, 9:26 PM
The problem is that studios dont want to take that risk. Who wants to throw away 150-200+ mill on a movie (not counting marketing and director fees and other stuff) that has no fan base as it is or no history to base off of. The goal is demographic.
Look at Gangster Squad, for example. This is a movie based off a real thing that occurred and has big name actors in it and looks well done. Is it original? Not really, but it doesn't need to be if it has history buffs and mob film fans seeing it. Thats why CBM's are so popular now.
The point is that it is a neccissary evil now to make a lot of un original movies. However, there are many more original ones out their. You just don't always hear about them!
Wallymelon - 1/8/2013, 8:57 AM
@corndog,

sunshine and moon were both in theaters. they were in select indie theaters, because they are indie films. hollywood doesnt produce original screenplays, they produce remakes and sequels and spinoffs and reboots and the occaisional original film but with a completely unoriginal plot. if you want something new and fresh you have to do the research and actually look up some indie theaters in your area and check out the movies. go to wikipedia and check out the list of movies made in a year and youll see all these production companies that are started for only one or two films and get shut down because they didnt make any money. but they get made.
Niuhll - 1/13/2013, 4:48 PM
The Prestige is based on a Book. But i kind of do kind of don't agree with you, there is less major original films now maybe, but there are plenty of original stories out there.

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