EDITORIAL: Five Comic Book Movie SEQUELS Better Than Thier Predecessors

EDITORIAL: Five Comic Book Movie SEQUELS Better Than Thier Predecessors

Following yesterdays editorial detailing reboots better than the original, I thought I'd tackle the world of sequels. The much mangled world of sequels has produced many misses but I'm going to take a look at the ones that built upon the original on screen outing...

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By CameronGray1 - 4/17/2014

The editorial is not about the greatest sequel ever, it is more about the greatest improvement between the first and second outing so enjoy:

5. Thor: The Dark World/ Thor

Chris Hemsworth returned as the titular hero to prevent the destruction of the nine realms. The sequel, which featured a new director in Alan Taylor, surpassed the first film in terms of character development and world building. In the first film, Thor is seen as a sort of boy scout in the eyes of Odin but returns in The Dark World a seasoned and hardedned warrior. The film expands upon the worlds created in the first chapter with the inclusion of the Dark Elves. The Dark Elves provided a stronger villain than Thor's the Destroyer. The sequel has been criticised for a lack of supporting character devlopment but apart from the mainly negelcted warrior three, I felt the relationship between Jane and Thor grow as well as the other Earth bound characters. The Dark World is dominated by Loki and leaves on a compelling cliffhanger to see where this character can be taken after heavy involvement in phase 1. Overall, The Dark World really digs its claws in the Thor mythos which over shadows the first Thor films plot and narrative.

4. X2: Xmen United/ XMen 

Following on from 2000s XMen, Bryan Singer creates a sequel which contiued to expand the XMen universe. the film follows Wolverine as he uncovers the truth of his origin but it is the new mutants in the film which keep things interesting. Nightcrawler, a long time fan favourite, was a particular highlight for me and many others in this film. Xaviers school is expanded to include other familiar mutatnts and this was exciting as a XMen fan. The first film was good but the sequel hits all the right notes in terms of action ( Wolverine and Lady Deathstrokes fight) and emotion with Jean Greys demise. All the cast from Stewart to McKellen brought it and made probably the best XMen movie so far.

3. Spiderman2/ Spiderman

Spiderman introduced us to Peter Parker and the world of our friendly neighbour hood hero. While the film did well to establish the Spideyverse it wasnt until the second installment debuted that got the ball rolling. Doc Ock was a far more interesting villain compared to Green Goblin. However, Green Goblin did set up the amazing storyline which saw James Franco's Harry Osbourne head down a twisted path. All the actors seemed more comfortable in their respective roles with Jonah.J.Jameson appearing to be plucked straight from the comics. Spiderman 2 takes the third spot in terms of improvement due to superb film making in the form of the train scence to name but one and excellent perfomances, its such a shame things heading south with the trilogies final film.

2. The Wolverine/ XMen Orignins: Wolverine

Origins, the glorified cameo fest which nearly enough ruined the XMen franchise and obliterated the XMen continuity as well as Wolverines origins. However, there was hope for the character yet and this was delivered courtesy of James Mangolds Japan based follow up. The Wolverine isloated Logan from all other XMen and sent him on a quest which questioned his mortality. The dream sequences with Pheonix helped to add emotional and pyschological depth to the film which the previous one lacked. The Japanese set really set apart the installment from other X flicks and added real emotion to Logan. Hugh Jackman was on top form and as passionate as ever which enhanced his performance. The film learned from its preceeders flaws by having no other mutants and finally delivered a fan pleasing Wolverine movie.

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier/ Captain America: The First Avenger

The first Captain America film was frankly the most boring of the original phase one movies. However, The Winter soldier is easily the greatest phase 2 if not MCU film thus far. The first film personally suffered from the wartime setting which was obviously necessary to the story but made it feel discluded from the whole Marvel universe. The present day Winter Soldier, delivered a mature and complex conspiracy and is really the first film to blow the entire MCU apart, more so than The Avengers. The sequel had everything from nick Fury taking part in the action, an incresed role for Maria Hill, a buddy comedy with Falcon and Cap and a true female hero in Black Widow. The lead villain of Bucky Barnes/ The Winter Soldier is more interesting than Whiplash, Mandarin, The Dark Elves and Red Skull combined. The film is beautifully directed, written and acted making this the greatest improved sequel.

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MrCBM56 - 4/17/2014, 1:47 PM
Replace The Wolverine with The Dark Knight and I agree.
TheDuck - 4/17/2014, 1:49 PM
dark knight???
SauronsBANE - 4/17/2014, 1:52 PM
I like that you added the qualifier of "The editorial is not about the greatest sequel ever, it is more about the greatest improvement between the first and second outing." To me, that makes it acceptable that The Dark Knight/Batman Begins isn't on the list, because BB wasn't a terrible movie compared to TDK. They were both solid.

That said, I have to disagree with your stance on Captain America: The First Avenger. The Winter Soldier is much, much better, but The First Avenger is a pretty phenomenal film as well. I definitely wouldn't consider it "boring", and The Winter Soldier wouldn't be the most improved sequel IMO. For me, NOTHING can beat the terribleness of X-Men Origins and then the slightly above average The Wolverine. Otherwise, good article!
dougieisrollingthejays - 4/17/2014, 1:56 PM
I dissagree with Spiderman two and X2 just personally. no dark knight?
dougieisrollingthejays - 4/17/2014, 1:56 PM
still think TDK was a huge increase
SauronsBANE - 4/17/2014, 2:03 PM
Oh I agree that TDK was definitely better than BB in almost every aspect...but the difference between the two isn't quite as much as people like to make it out to be, personally. I guess I would've still included it somewhere on this list, maybe #4 or #3, but definitely not #1 IMO.
CameronGray1 - 4/17/2014, 2:10 PM
I did consider the Dark Knight but I thought all the others showed a greater improvement as BB was a very strong film unlike most of these other original films
GliderMan - 4/17/2014, 2:16 PM
No respect. Spider-Man 1 was leagues beyond Spider-Man 2.
Doopie - 4/17/2014, 2:36 PM
i agree with the choices. all of these films improved with their sequels. maybe do it the other way around for the next one; worst let downs.
TheGoddamnPeel - 4/17/2014, 2:37 PM
Spiderman 1>Spiderman 2 and Thor 1>Thor the Dark World for me.

Surprised there isn't a Dark Knight/Batman Begins part in there though.
Odin - 4/17/2014, 2:47 PM
TDK might be a bit tricky: as movie in general it was better than BB, but BB was better Batman-movie. At least that's my opinion.
Lhornbk - 4/17/2014, 3:25 PM
Ummmmm......no, on a lot of this anyway.

Thor-I very strongly disagree. TDW was, at best, just average/ok/decent, whatever word you want to use. The plot was kind of dumb, a lot of it just doesn't make sense, at least to me. The action was great, and the visual effects were outstanding, but that's about it. You're right, it is dominated by Loki, and we have a cliffhanger involving him. But, this is supposed to be a Thor film. I don't feel like his character was developed much at all from the first film. I really liked Thor, and while right after watching TDW I tried to talk myself into liking it, ultimately as I thought about it, I realized that it was just not up to par. Easily the worst MCU film so far.

X-Men-I'll agree, although it is very close for me.

Spiderman-I have to disagree with this too, although it's closer. Yes, Spiderman 2 is very good, but it does have some flaws that I'm amazed so many others seem to overlook. Doc Ock is great, although I personally don't like the decision to have the arms take over his mind basically, making him at least partly unresponsible for his actions, and making him the hero in the end by sacrificing himself to stop the mini-sun. I would have preferred a truly evil Doc Ock. I didn't like the middle act either, with Peter losing his abilities because of a "lack of confidence" or something like that. Huh? I'm sorry, but that's just stupid. Although, not as stupid as the absolutely horrid "Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" montage when he decides to give up being Spiderman and starts living a normal life. No, I prefer the first one. I was fine with the Green Goblin armor, and I think he made a better, more consistent villain with a clear, understandable goal of gaining power.

Wolverine-haven't seen the newer one, but it probably is better, since the other sucked. But, I have serious doubts about the newer one since evidently Wolverine loses his adamantium claws. To me, that's like taking Superman's ability to fly.

Capt. America-yes, TWS is better (best cbm ever imo), but no, FA was not bad. In fact, I think it's the 2nd best solo MCU film, just barely ahead of Ironman.

I would definitely add TDK to the list, and would also add Superman II. It was clearly superior to the first-better villains, better action, better pacing, pretty much better everything.
ruadh - 4/17/2014, 5:32 PM
I'm not one who hates Dark World like a lot of people, but I don't feel it was better. As predictable as it was, I just found Thor's journey in his first film enjoyable. So far, Winter Soldier is the only Marvel Studios sequel that I've liked more than the original, and also so far all the other sequels I've liked only slightly less than the previous installment. I'm hoping Avengers 2 knocks my socks off even harder than the first one though.
sikwon - 4/17/2014, 5:34 PM
The Dark Knight Was Better Then Begins, and I love BB but... The Joker was incredible.
sikwon - 4/17/2014, 5:41 PM
When you are talking about Spiderman, for me emotional Peter is just hard to take and he was like that in all 3. The Doc Ock fights elevate S2 though. Like Joker giving the edge to DK. A strong villain is almost essential.
GuardianDevil - 4/17/2014, 10:14 PM
Haven't seen Cap2 yet, hopefully seeing it tomorrow night.

But as for the rest I agree, Thor 1 epitomizes the word "meh" Dark World was no masterpiece either but it was at Lear fun, action packed and memorable. Which is more than I can say for the first. Spider-Man is great, but Spider-Man 2 is the best Marvel film ever made. So yeah, it's better. X1 was great for it's time, but X2 will stand forever as one of the greats. Wolverine obviously is eons ahead of that Origins trash.

On a side note, I consider Batman Begins and The Dark Knight to be equally great. But I prefer BB, slightly.
GuardianDevil - 4/17/2014, 10:15 PM
*least*
Destined - 4/17/2014, 11:18 PM
Definitely disagree on TDW being better than Thor. And as many have said TFA was still a solid movie for a period piece that's essential to character. TWS is the best MCU entry to date, but that doesn't take away TFA solid debut to me. Cap will probably have the best trilogy when all is said and done.
LeroyJenkins - 4/18/2014, 7:26 AM
It's an editorial. He can put whatever he wants in here. If you disagree go write your own editorial.
LEEE777 - 4/18/2014, 9:07 AM
Agree with all but THOR 2, no way did taht touch THOR, THOR was a Marvel masterpiece.

Good read though.
charlie2094 - 4/18/2014, 9:46 AM
I agree with all of it, besides Thor 2. Still a good film, but definitely don't think it's better than Thor 1. Think the first film had a better narrative, better character developement, a stronger villain, better action and better balanced the comedy and drama. Still enjoyed Thor 2, but to me it felt like "filler", didn't do much other than give Thor something to do between Avenger's flicks.

Definitely agree with everything else. Winter Soldier was a huge improvement over the already great First Avenger, and the Wolverine surpasses 'Origins' in pretty much every regard.

Agree with Dark Knight NOT being on there. It was better than Begins, but Begins was still a super strong film, whereas the difference in quality is maybe a bit clearer between the others on the list

Cool read :)
Wallymelon - 4/18/2014, 10:55 AM
@lhbornk he'll yes. Thor is a bunch of crap. Action and banter is all it had. It was such a throw way film. The first film was a better film in terms of story and developing these characters. Th sequel just had the same people and put them in a story that was clearly put together at the last minute. You could tell it's just scenes and they never really had a full script.
DCSaysHailHydra - 4/18/2014, 2:12 PM
Do people still think The Wolverine is related to X-Men Origins: Wolverine?

I always throw Origins: Wolverine out of talk when someone mentions the continuity between the X-Men films. But hey, at least this article is better than the one saying The Amazing Spider-Man was better than Spider-Man. Oh man, did that make me laugh.
Wolf38 - 4/18/2014, 3:17 PM
Strongly disagree about Thor:TDW. Replace that with The Dark Knight, and I'm on board all the way.
Wolf38 - 4/18/2014, 3:20 PM
@Lhornbk "I don't feel like his character was developed much at all from the first film. I really liked Thor, and while right after watching TDW I tried to talk myself into liking it, ultimately as I thought about it, I realized that it was just not up to par. Easily the worst MCU film so far."

I agree. The Dark World didn't feel like it had any character development for anyone, except maybe Heimdall and Frigga. And I didn't feel that it had any real drama, either.
MrSotoMan - 4/19/2014, 10:03 AM
@silwon- That is such a stupid, stupid comment.

When you refer to emotional Peter, what emotional Peter are we talking about? You mean Peter-Pan, cause of that character was emotional I would of agreed, way to emotional if he was crying throughout the whole trilogy because Peter-Pan is not the type of character to emote tears.

Peter, cried once in the first Spider-Man. Peter again cried or just teared up in the second Spider-Man, and the third one he cried only twice but teared up once.

So again, I don't get that argument that Peter in the Raimi movies is just overly emotional. Never get it.
ThunderKat - 4/20/2014, 7:53 PM
The sequel is nearly always better as it is not bogged down with all of the exposition. Sequels are able to dive right in.

With all due respect, this isn't a novel idea.

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