John, Paul, Kirk and Spock: The New Fab Four

John, Paul, Kirk and Spock: The New Fab Four

You may never have thought that there was a connection between Star Trek and the Beatles, but Bob Orci, co-writer of the new Star Trek film, explains that Lennon and McCartney inspired the Kirk/Spock dynamic of the film.

BeatleTrek The new Star Trek succeeds on a number of levels, one of which (and it’s fairly significant) is the establishing of the relationship between Chris Pine’s James T. Kirk and Zachary Quinto’s Spock. As was the case with William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, there’s an instant rapport between the two actors that translates on screen. And in terms of the characters, there is a whole new level of connection made by the fact that Nero is responsible for the death of Kirk’s father and Spock’s mother. Interestingly, the inspiration for this, according to co-writer Bob Orci, was the relationship between Beatles John Lennon and Paul McCartney.
“We looked at John Lennon and Paul McCartney’s friendship as part of our model for Kirk and Spock,” says Orci. “They were opposites and they bonded very young because they both lost their mothers when they were teens. They might not have actually gotten along at the time had it not been for that kind of a bond. They were the only ones who kind of understood each other’s pain about having lost their mother, so they were definitely an influence on Kirk and Spock. You know, Star Trek and the Beatles were products of the ‘60s, so sometimes you have to tie it all together.”
So, which of the Star Trek team is Lennon and which is McCartney? “The more you read about them, the more you realize how they each had elements of the other,” Orci notes. “The Yin and Yang each have elements of the other color within their spot. I think it depends on the day. On the one hand you can say that Lennon was the intellectual like Spock, but on the other hand he was also kind of the leader of the band, so you can say he was Kirk in that way. And certainly Paul had more of the Spock haircut and the eyebrows. I guess we’ll be able to answer that one later, when we see how Kirk and Spock develop.”
But Orci considers this question a moment longer before adding confidently, “You know what? Spock is Lennon, because Paul is the optimist who can kind of see through the pain and still keep his chin up. That’s Kirk. Spock is a little more fatalistic with his logic, as John Lennon was.”

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LEEE777 - 5/26/2009, 4:03 PM
connection to TURTLES lol! ; )


Heh heh.
SpiderBat209 - 5/26/2009, 4:37 PM
There will be Tribble...Let It Be! :)
comicb00kguy - 5/26/2009, 5:06 PM
The new Trek SUCCEEDS on a number of levels? It doesn't even work as either a basic action film or a basic sci-fi film. Today's plot hole that defies explanation: Nero and Spock both get sucked into the black hole. Nero turns up 25 years in the past, to wait around for 25 years to get his revenge on Spock, rather than hunting down a young Spock and killing him then, or blowing up Vulcan then. Spock, however, is blown back only a short time, to patiently wait in the ice cave on Hoth for Kirk to conveniently show up. Why is one of them blown back 25 years and the other isn't?
Was there a malfunction in Spock's flux capacitor? That's what you get for not buying Mr. Fusion!

The whole movie is full of flaws that defy basic common sense. I don't demand absolute perfect reality out of a fictional movie, but I do demand that things at least make some kind of sense.

And for this thread, comparing THIS Kirk and Spock to John and Paul from the Beatles should be enough to bring John back from the dead seeking revenge. Completely ludicrous!

Leee: liked the Trek turtles. More cleverness there than in the whole current movie!
answer - 5/26/2009, 5:29 PM
@ comicb00kguy - Spock-Prime doesnt wait patiently for kirk to arrive He was dumped there so he watches the destruction of Vulcan. Nero waits around for Spock so that he can suffer the pain of seeing his planet destroyed as he did rather than do it straight away. Granted there were a few huge coincedences with delta vega but just put that down to fate.
luv1138 - 5/26/2009, 7:02 PM
star trek SUCKS!
LEEE777 - 5/27/2009, 4:12 AM
Heh heh heh, thanx @ comicb00kguy @ ; )

MIZZED YA @ LuV1138 @ Heh heh! : D

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