Screenwriters Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman On Villains Approach For THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2

Screenwriters Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman On Villains Approach For THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2

Star Trek Into Darkness scribes Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman talks about the approach to the use of multiple villains in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, saying that such a character needs to be essential to the story and not be a throwaway character.

Next summer's The Amazing Spider-Man 2 will introduce new villains Electro (Jamie Foxx), Rhino (Paul Giamatti), and MAYBE Green Goblin (Chris Cooper). Especially after Spider-Man 3 featured three villains, it's often worrying when a film features several villains at once, and for good reason. But speaking with MTV Splash Page at the premiere of Star Trek Into Darkness, screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman address this concern, saying that a villain (or any character) should not be featured in a movie just for the sake of being there. "I think you have to go into it and say, 'is this character essential to the story or are you just throwing him in for no reason whatsoever'," said Kurtzman. "We would never do anything other than what felt like it was organic to the flow of the story. A lot of consideration was given to the construction of that [story], so that when you see it, you'll get the big picture." What do you think of the idea of including multiple villains in one superhero movie? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 stars Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Jamie Foxx, Shailene Woodley, Dane DeHaan, Colm Feore, Paul Giamatti, Felicity Jones, Chris Cooper and Sally Field. The film is set to hit theaters May 2nd, 2014.

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Abary - 5/6/2013, 1:03 PM
I've always liked Electro, but not as a MOVIE villain...

...I wanted Mysterio, but whatever. We didn't even get an official look at him yet so I'll wait and see (I said OFFICIAL... he'll probably be glowing)...
MrCBM56 - 5/6/2013, 1:04 PM
This guy is being a hypocrite. He criticizes Spiderman 3 for having too many villains. But in The Amazing Spiderman 2, we have Electro, Rhino, rumored black cat, and I'm pretty sure Green Goblin since Emma Stone is going to die.

And am I the only one who likes Spider Man 3?
MrCBM56 - 5/6/2013, 1:11 PM

Besides what happened to Venom, (which I had no problem with), what was wrong with SM3?
PaulRom - 5/6/2013, 1:16 PM
I thought Spider-Man 3 bit off more than it could chew. I don't think it was near as bad as people make it out to be, but there was just too much going on. Just my opinion though.
Viltrumite - 5/6/2013, 1:22 PM
The thing with Spider-Man 3 is it tried to give each of the three villains equal relevance to the story, and it ended up feeling like none of them got properly fleshed out. With The Amazing Spider-Man 2, my assumption is Electro will be the main villain with the character arc, Rhino will be a thug/supporting villain with less screen time, and Osborn will be pulling the strings. It's easier to juggle when you write with the idea "not all villains are created equal", but that doesn't mean they aren't essential to the plot in some way.
Benjamitesandwich - 5/6/2013, 1:24 PM
Spider-Man 3 is really a guilty pleasure. It bothers me, but I love it to death. No matter how bad it got, it was always so much fun to watch. :)
Odin - 5/6/2013, 1:28 PM
@MrCBM56 I think it's a decent movie. I enejoy watching it as long as remember to press skip-button on my remote when the infamous emo-dance starts.
WruceBayne - 5/6/2013, 1:28 PM
So Rhino is confirmed?
MrCBM56 - 5/6/2013, 1:28 PM

I understand what you're saying. But that's what happens when fans demand a villain. For example

Fans demanded The Mandarin in IM3, we saw how that turned out.

Fans demanded Venom in SM3, we saw how that turned out.

Fans demanded Galactus, we saw how that turned out.

Fans demanded Talia ah Ghul, we saw how that turned out.

MrCBM56 - 5/6/2013, 1:29 PM

Yeah, that was unnecessary.
gmoney0505 - 5/6/2013, 1:35 PM
What fans demanded Talia and Mandarin in the movie especially Talia?
THIS - 5/6/2013, 1:39 PM
Spider-Man 3 is my favorite Spider-Man film so far.
AlexDeLarge87 - 5/6/2013, 1:40 PM
Three villains can work. Its just about how you write it.

About Spider-Man 3. Action sequences were awesome but the story felt forced. Plus there was many other things i didnt like. People over acting and all.
But thats just my opinion. If someone loves it... good for her/him.
DanteSparda - 5/6/2013, 1:41 PM
Three cheers for skinny Venom, The Mandarin actor on crack and cloudy Galactus with a chance of rain!
AlexDeLarge87 - 5/6/2013, 1:43 PM
It would be cool to see Hammerhead in the gangster role instead Rhino. Josh Brolin would nail that part perfectly.
Tombstone would have been awesome also.
TheSonicScrew - 5/6/2013, 1:50 PM
I can't stop laughing at that photoshopped Rhino/Giamatti picture in the banner of this article...just makes me think he'll be running around shouting his name like Matt Damon in Team America...
Viper87 - 5/6/2013, 1:51 PM
By all rights, the best thing they could have done in Spider-Man 3 was to end the Symbiote's involvement when people removed it and then have a scene the final scene/ shot of the movie or the after credit scene be where Eddie Brock becomes Venom, thus setting that story up for the sequel. That's how I thought it would play out before originally seeing the movie anyway.
Viper87 - 5/6/2013, 1:52 PM
^^^^...when Peter removed it*
thewonderer - 5/6/2013, 1:55 PM
Talia was awesome in TDKR, the rest yeah suck.
OrgasmicPotatoe - 5/6/2013, 2:06 PM
Yeah, the only bad thing in Spider-Man 3 was Venom's inclusion. It should have been a post-credit scene, leading into the fourth movie, ALL-OUT VENOM VS SPIDEY !

Unfortunately, we didn't have that.

The dance scene doesn't even bother me. People freaking out about it are taking it WAAAAY too seriously. I think it's only goofy, at most.
exe - 5/6/2013, 2:09 PM
Why can't I get myself to care for this movie?
Abary - 5/6/2013, 2:11 PM
TheAmazingSpiderHyphenMan - So TDK? Scarecrow in beginning, Joker as main villain, and Two-Face at the end? I'd like it to go like that though.
Platinum - 5/6/2013, 2:25 PM
Finally we hear from the writers, although Sony must have been very desperate to go to these guys for the script.

I don't believe them though, Sony clearly wants the sinister six so they'll probably be forced to shove in more villains.
RolandD - 5/6/2013, 2:30 PM
I can't put my thumb exactly on what it was about S3. The Parker as a bad boy scenes hurt. I agree about the MJ sub-plot. If written and acted well, the number of villains does not have to be the downfall. Look at Batman Begins-We had two "supervillains" and Falcone, but the story flowed and each was integral to the plot. R'as Al Ghul was the main villain, but behind the scenes in most of the movie. Look at Avengers-you have Loki as the main villain the aliens and Thanos behind the scenes. It is all about the story and S-3 just didn't have it together well enough. Not awful either, but a bit of a disappointment after 1 and 2.
Peteyparker - 5/6/2013, 2:34 PM
I Love how everyone assumes Green Goblin is in the movie becuz Gwen Stacy dies, but Doc Ock wasn't in the first one when Captain Stacy died.
InfiniteMonkey - 5/6/2013, 2:39 PM
When are they going to do the Go-Bots?
pintoman - 5/6/2013, 2:49 PM
OH god. They wrote this? Maybe Gwen can be brought back to life with Tribble blood.
sonofvenom5 - 5/6/2013, 2:51 PM
The problem with spiderman 3 was once a studieo get's too involed it's all The money and not the fan's allso rami's love for sand man got in the way you can not make a movie with villans that never inpacted comic's
Green goblin killed gwen doc ock killed aurter stacy venom was onc spidy's most famus foe's even kravin the camelion and electro not sandman rhino the other problem is topher grace as eddie brock not a good choice I the best way was to have the simboit bond after the credits now as for tasm2 they shood do a tdk and have osborn become
Green goblin late in the movie and kill gwen and meet his demise make
That peter's quest for the truth about his parent's lead's to gwen's death
Peter get's some closher but loses the one he love's in the proses harry
Get's angry with spiderman mj is there for pete and tasm3 set up for pete to prove he can be a true hero and rebund from all thes problems
SuperSpiderMan5778 - 5/6/2013, 2:53 PM
all i know is this movie is gonna be the shit
marvel72 - 5/6/2013, 3:15 PM
i prefer shocker to electro,i would like them to use the likes of scorpion,tombstone,hobgoblin,kraven the hunter & of course one day the sinister six.
PeterParker1991 - 5/6/2013, 3:29 PM
There's a reason Spiderman 4 didn't happen people. That's cause the script stunk just about as much as S3. So grateful for the reboot. Don't even want to think about what Raimi had in store for S4. Probably would've been a damn musical, lol
AmazingFantasy - 5/6/2013, 3:35 PM
Electro has always been one of my fav's
VIRILEMAN - 5/6/2013, 3:53 PM
What killed Spider-Man 3? The fact they made the Sandman Uncle Ben's killer! Way to piss on the comics Raimi! It totally ruined everything he did before it. He completely ruined the origin story that he got so right in part 1. Emo Peter didn't help either. And Gwen, the biggest love of Peter's life was a throw away character. Venom sucked. The "wicked cool. Awesome!" kids in the middle of fight scenes (Raimi's kids) the amount of nepotism in Raimi's movies is mind blowing. I could go on and on...
KaneRomita - 5/6/2013, 4:36 PM
Peter and Harry's big fight at the beginning of SM3 was better than anything in ASM.. A good music score goes a long way.
But yeah, SM3 had issues. None of which are Raimi's fault I believe.
Platinum - 5/6/2013, 4:51 PM
^Don't forget Peter vs Sandman, even TASM had to rip the upside down swing kick from from that battle.
VIRILEMAN - 5/6/2013, 5:36 PM


And what kick are you talking about?
VIRILEMAN - 5/6/2013, 5:40 PM
All Raimi was told was to "include Venom." He wasn't told to make the character suck as much as possible. Script writers are told what to include, and what to omite all the time. And not only did he screw up the writing of the script it was poorly directed. And not only that the guy has a serious problem with nepotism.

His two sons, his two brothers, his two nephews, his daughter, AND HIS FREAKIN CAR! are all in the movie.
RHd2 - 5/6/2013, 5:43 PM
I'm a little worried about this movie. It seems like almost too much is going on. It can be done right but its going to be a tough task. You would think Marvel/Sony would learn from the mistakes they made in SM3. We'll just have to wait and see though.
gastitdk - 5/6/2013, 6:06 PM
In the end, Paul Giamatti plays an actor hired to pose as The Rhino
thewolfx - 5/6/2013, 6:21 PM
Spiderman 3 was uncomfortable to watch.

To this day no movie iv seen in the theatre has made me cringe like that dance number.

Skinny venom with those dumb nails and no tongue didnt help
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