Batman and Robin. What a disgraceful comparison.

Also I agree with the Schmoes. This ending is very daring and is an interesting prospect that hopefully carries over future films.

loved this movie, suck it haters lol

I think I agree with the Schmoes, maybe I liked it a little more than they did.
Comparing it to Batman & Robin is bullshit.

As for the "too many villains" argument? It's not really valid as a criticism - you can have any number of villains in a movie, the trick is balancing them in a coherent story, and I think TASM 2 did that. Look at it this way - The Dark Knight had three villains (The Joker, Two Face, and Sal Maroni) plus a whole bunch of side-villains (Scarecrow, The Chechen, the other mobsters and Joker's goons), but nobody complained that there were too many villains because the story flowed well. TASM 2 didn't do that as well as TDK did, but it still managed to do it pretty well in its own right. If you think about it, the villains in TASM 2 even reflect the roles of the ones in TDK - Goblin plays a similar role to the Joker (manipulating people and causing chaos), Electro reflects Two Face (good guy transformed by an accident, out for revenge against those who wronged him and driven mad), and Rhino is similar to Scarecrow (a glorified cameo that shows how busy the hero is while alluding to a story that belongs to another installment of the franchise), the only difference being that the secondary villain (Electro) gets more screen time in TASM 2 than his counterpart (Two Face) did in TDK.

People seem to jump onto this "too many villains" bandwagon simply because Spider-Man 3 sucked, but it wasn't the number of villains that made that movie bad - it was the fact that the story was terrible, and the villains' subplots didn't compliment each other. In fact, Spider-Man 3 barely has an actual storyline; it's just a bunch of unrelated subplots thrown together. At least in TASM 2 the storyline is mostly cohesive, and the subplots almost always work in tandem.

Lol. "Billy Joel." Never noticed the likeness before. Plan to see this Saturday.

2014 may be the year of the emotionally gripping cbms! CA:TWS and TASM 2 both seemed to have hit the fans in their tingly bits.

And yes, BatManiac, that would be good. Like for example in the Superman/Batman film they do a Batman prologue where he takes down someone like Two-Face and then a quick shot to Superman doing his stuff in Metropolis by saving people from Parasite. No relevance to the film, but shows us these Universes are bigger than what is shown to us, the audience, on screen.

Well, feeling sad over TASM2 ending depends on how much to like the characters and how sentimental you are as a person. I honestly felt more over TWS scene on the Helicarrier. Seems [frick]ing stupid to say that given what occurs but I felt nothing over TASM2 ending.

Seriously though... those supporting the film don't understand good story telling. It had the same problem as the first film... Peter destroys his chances with Gwen so the entire film is a 'will they get back together' mess that doesn't work as neither knows what is happening and they only get back together in order for her death to mean something.

Meanwhile those sympathetic for Peter... please enlighten me because Peter is a selfish asshole through the entire film. He abandons Gwen, only comes up with the 'England' solution because of his own selfish desires, etc... Make no mistake he's done this before also - he left Gwen alone when her father died and in the space between this film and the last he's broken up with her several times using that as an excuse according to dialogue in the film.

As for the villain scenario - lets discount Rhino for a second. Your main villain Electro is an 'ok' villain, but Max Dillon is a badly written character on comparison with Riddler from Batman Forever. As for Green Goblin its the other way round... Harry is an amazing character while Green Goblin is a terrible villain showing up for less screen time than Venom for one short scene to kill Gwen because they needed to otherwise the fans would complain.

You cant honestly tell me that you all enjoyed sitting through Peter Parker essentially re-discovering what we all saw in the first 5 minutes during the middle act of the film that dragged on forever...

This film had good scenes... but it wasn't consistent and that to me is worse than a bad film. In a really bad film you can laugh at how bad it is... maybe their are still elements that are good but they don't distract from the fact its a bad film, it doesn't delude you with hope that things will get better.

In this film we have excellent scenes such as the building desperation with Harry and the beautiful looking slow-mo Spider-sense... but then you have scenes of comedy relief Max Dillon, comedy relief Dr Kafka, comedy relief Rhino/Aleksei, rushed Green Goblin, Electro with his constantly changing motivations that are not built upon... etc...

I don't like the pacing of these two films. I felt like the portion of the last film where he becomes Spider-Man felt very rushed... which is almost something ludicrous the say given that it spends like 40 minutes on the origin.

@Batmaniac

I don't find Peter likable in this version, I don't care about Gwen. I'd love to add a comment about the MoS Lois but that's for another thread. A simply never cared about their relationship. Probably because I can't relate. I'm not saying this is a fault in the film though, don't interpret it as that.

Batmaniac , Barrow did play a part in Cap:TWS. More than Scarecrow and Rhino ever did.

@BatManiac

I liked the characters but that's mostly because the actors playing the roles managed to add more character to the rather wooden dialogue and bad script. Max Dillon was made more emotional because subtle mannerisms done by Jamie Foxx. Gwen Stacy is mostly cared about because she's played by the only good actress in the films - Emma Stone. Harry Osborn is amazing because of Dane DeHaan (First role I've seen him in)

I liked Peter and Gwen as love interests in the first film - but they started messing things up from the ending where they became distant then rushed them back together for the ending. This film sadly emphasised that. Emma and Andrew are dating and that's why most people are saying the love story aspect was amazing - but the love story aspect was a pile of shit - its only saved due to actual chemistry between the two.

The script let this film down most of all giving us the 'Incy Wincy Spider' scene, Airplane scene, etc... notice how Aunt May mentions she is a nurse in order to be in a later scene when the power is going out for no reason other than 'hospitals need electricity also'

The characters were a mess due to the script

It's only a shame these comic book movies feel like they need to making caricatures out of mentally ill people (Selvig in Thor 2) and desperately lonely people that are barely functioning adequately (Dillion).

@BatManiac

That's because they are actually dating though...

@MetahumanAbominationKlone

"pays attention when Harry says he "needs him" and he thinks Harry could be a friend"

Once again - that was more the mannerisms and acting of Jamie Foxx than the script itself.

@BatManiac
"Batroc could of been replaced by any second rate villain and the plot wouldn't have changed at all, so no, no he didn't"

If we are being completely honest that can be said about every villain unless they do something specific that another villain couldn't do due to restrictions of his powers/abilities.

They've had three, four if you count Rhino, chances at doing villains and they've failed every time in my opinion.

Most of the negative reviews I've read about this film, some have there points but most just seem to say redundant or similar ideas, so basically they didn't like the idea of the first film so their bad mouthing the idea of its sequel. I loved the first film because it has something a lot of CBMs are missing, actual realistic human and character development, sure maybe these films are more Peter Parker films then Spiderman but for me it makes Spiderman so much better when he's on screen knowing how developed Peter Parker is underneath, most the characters surrounding him are fleshed out far better than before also, I mean Raimi used Mary Jane as the damsel in distress 3 times as a major plot point and used the villains sob story then they redeem themselves in time to die three times, and these new films are being called out for being redundant and unoriginal???

I love the first two Raimi films but they felt like 60s spiderman this is ultimate it feels modern, it has it's own ideas. The major problem with the new ones is probably down to Villains they aren't as fleshed out. So I saw the film the first time left feeling like IM3 as @Kurne said, but after a little thought I saw it a second time and a lot of the elements that felt fast or cheesy, didn't seem as negative the second time. Harry Osbourne's arc works it's quick and they give a reason for it being so, Jamie Foxx as Electro works a little less but I would mainly account that to the fact that the reason his Final Battle feels underwhelming once you leave the cinema is, he's been out of the film for half an hour before the end, two other villains appear against Spiderman after him and a major plot point happens following the battle, so it's more the fact the end 30 mins which are great just over shadow him a bit but he's still good while he's around, and I felt empathy for him and Goblin especially transformation was creepy as shit like, An American Werewolf in Lindon style. Martin Csokas is by far the worst performance in this film FYI his Dr Kafka, sounds like Spiderman : The Animated Series (90s) version of Doc OcK but completely ruins a sequence with Electro that possibly could of been quite frightening.

Anyway on the big screen the second time I really enjoyed it, I think in some ways the first film was better but mainly because the tone of the film feels odd and takes time to get used to because it mixes more darker adult themes like the first film with more family friendly action like Raimi films that don't always mix but Andrew Garfield as Spiderman has completely eclipsed Toby Mcguires performance, he is the glue holding these films together, as is Emma Stone (Awkwardly). Just make your own opinions don't listen to reviews and maybe give this new franchise more than first glance chance, IM3 got weaker on repeat for me, this got better.

Well given that everyone on this site had a tendency to never have their opinions swayed directly by users they themselves dislike even if they are being presented with significant, gaping and valid pros/cons, you're right there.