I am tired of Luther, but if a reboot is a go you need him at some point, he is just about the most popular Superman villain, but it sucks the only time he can fight Superman is when he's got a fist full of Kryptonite. Someday that can equally fight Superman would be nice...I'd really like to see Zod again!

A dark superman? I dont know maybe its me, but superman is a mom and pop hero. He was, is all that is old school american values. Changing his character is whats wrong with the movie industry. So The Dark Knight is the second higest grossing film in history, I know lets copy the narritive and just put in Superman. The kids will love it, and well be rolling in dough. This is what happens when the big maching gets into interlectual properties, its all just a cash cow to them. Dont get me wrong The Dark Knight was a great movie and it was dark as hell, but Batman is a dark character The draw of this character is the fight with his inner demons and his struggle to be a man and not a monster. Superman on the other hand is the antehesis of Batman. Making him "dark" is just the wrong way to go. The real problem with "Returns", which i dont care what anyone says, is a great movie, was just timeing. If it came out in 85 most people would have loved it. It was just people wanted a new take and rehashing a 30 year old story line just did not cut it. Reinventing Superman would be like reinventing Mickey Mouse to make him a moody rat who just wants to get into Minnys pants. Well any way sorry for the rant. Luthor is just plain played out, Bizarro is the way to go. ohhhh and buy the way Luthor was not it Superman 3 ye'old comic book move lovers. For some reason I remember Richard Pryor, Annie Ross, Pamela Stephenson, and Robert Vaughn as a really bad idea. Maybe if is was Lex the mvie wouldent have sucked so bad

I agree as i think most would that superman needs something to fight and punch and provide some physical threat but i think you need a Lex Luthor in a superman film, he's essential i dont think confirmation of his presence means it'll be another rehash of superman or superman returns, if its bizarro if gives a chance for both to shine, brainiac there could be an alliance of some kind etc,etc so im personally pleased about the involvement of Luthor, i think Spacey as Luthor was the best thing in Superman Returns.

Also about the dark thing, i think its a bad idea to depict superman based on batman as they are completely different characters, almost all the comic-book movie failures have come out of trying to emulate another success by compromising tone and character, bad idea. Rather than dark they need to make him as relatable as in Returns with less random superkids and family issues and more immediate threat of villainry and earth saving, deliver this im pretty sure itll be a hit....for me at least.

First of all I agree and disagree with all of you. I must say 2 things...

1, yeah I'm sick of Lex Luthor at least in the movies anyway, it has been done to death. But in the comics and in the TV series Smallville Lex Luthor is brilliant. I agree that Superman needs a REAL fight like in Superman 2 (fight with Zod) I'm not sure which Superman comic it was but Apocalypse kidnaps Supergirl i think, anyway Superman and Apocalypse kick the hell out of each other and in the end Superman wins. Now thats what we need to see in the next Superman movie, Superman going Hammer And Tong with some massive and stronger villain, Lex is cool but in the movies he's a bit gay (oh look i've got a bit of Kryptonite in my hand, thump) oh come on people cant you see that movie Lex has nothing on the Lex in Smallville or in the comics, movie Lex is so gay. (no offense to gay people ha ha)...

and that brings me nicely to my second point, for all of you who think Superman cant be dark OH SHUT UP... in movies 2 and 3 theres a hint of darkness and in Superman Returns they made it very dark and moody. Superman felt more alone than usual and he was sick of being a hero, it turned him moody to the point that the only way he could escape the cries for help was if he flew up to space, or if he was with Lois. In Superman Returns his heart ached or was empty making him the most darkest Superman so far.. I loved Superman Returns. its dark like the comics and evem the TV Show Smallville is dark. The number one rule of Superman is that he does noes kill. He can still be dark, WAKE UP PEOPLE just read the comics they are hinting at darkness with Superman mostly good on one hand and then on the other hand the comics go completely the other way and have Superman very dark and well hard. cant you see it...

Anyway thats my views on Superman 6 :). oh and I've just finsihed Smallvile Season 7 one thing COME ON WB DC GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND GET CLARK FLYING FOR GOD SAKE ITS BEEN 7 YEARS!!!

Okay, here is my take...and I want feedback...without instruction for me to go to hell btw: A lot of people seemed to like Spacey's take on Luthor, and I think those people like it cause he was playing a campy Lex, like Hackman did. However, I think that's horrible for modern audiences. I think they should play him as he is on Smallville. Honestly I think Smallville should be made into a movie franchise, but for now lets concentrate on Lex. Now when I say that Lex should be dark and sinister, people say "that's now how Lex is" and I think they are thinking about the old movies, because in the COMICS which is the true source material, Lex Luthor is a murderer, a cold-blooded killer who is NOT FUNNY. Watching Mike Rosenbaum as Lex on Smallville was the FIRST TIME I ever found the character to be intimidating (besides the 90's cartoon). He was a sociopath who had no problem lying, killing, extorting and blackmailing.

Now as for the whole "dark tone" I don't think that would be good, but keep in mind, Returns WAS dark: the colors, the tone, the mood, the fact Supes was stalking his ex-lover. And, I'm sorry, but I have no clue HOW ANYONE could enjoy that movie, I thought it was one of the worst movies I've seen in years, the ONLY cool part was where Supes saves the plane. I was rooting for Richard more than Big Blue Stalker! The ONLY justification I can find, is that the people who love Superman Returns must be either: A)Die Hard fans who love it out of obligation (like I would a sucky Batman movie) or B)People who are unaware of Superman lore and don't realize they are ENTITLED to so much more than that!

Finally I cant understand WHY Spacey would be in another movie since I thought it was a reboot, unless cheap ass Warner Bros just doesn't wanna buy him outta his contract. At any rate, they need to amp up the action and kick Singer out of the picture, as well as everything that he had to do with while making thiss move. Start fresh and possibly go with Welling and Rosenbaum!!

PS even tho Smallville has lacked quality recently, you GOTTA give em props for TRYING to be creative, they've had a lot of action and some heavy hitters from the comics too. This season, Doomsday is going to show up! I can't wait!

Hey, was Lex Luthor in Superman III? The one with Richard Pryor?

You're right Scotty, they have done some of the Smallville elements to death. What I have to say tho, is that I never liked Supes all that much until I started watching Smallville, cause it gave him some depth, and made him more identifiable than just the ultimate super-hero. It kinda fleshed him out. And while the show has lost a lot of heart in recent years, I think the chemistry between him and Lois is top notch. It's awesome to finally see the two of them working in the Planet...hey JORDAN HEATH what would you think of Ben Foster taking up the role of Joker in Batman 3?

I agree with TheDurkinKnight when he said "Honestly I think Smallville should be made into a movie franchise" Sure it would be something like 6 movies but that will give Superman a lot more depth to him.

I also disagree with TheDurkinKnight, after Heath Ledger's phenomenal take on the Joker nobody can ever ever play the Joker ever again.

Why isn't Darkseid in that poll!?!?!?!

ok i know dat Lex Luthor is Superman's main bad guy but putting him in every superman movie and making him the main villian is getting really boring
there are others to choose from like Brainiac, Doomsday, Darkseid, Toyman, Bizarro, Zod, Cyborg Superman and the list goes on and on Please be a lil creative

Luthor wasn't the villain in 3!

BILLY ZANE SHOULD BE LEX LUTHOR!!! also i think he should be the villian in nolans remake because he is a huge part of the superman franchise but i would like to see lex luthor and Ultra-Humanite should be the main bad guys. with a cameo of the prankster, Mister Mxyzptlk, solomon grundy, and Brainiac at the end for he can be the main bad in the sequel with bizarro. how about that for a movie =) and the 3rd one is all up to nolan =) i say bring batman in the 3rd one and battle a huge foe for you can get the jsutice leage together!!! dam i should be a writer or producer +))))